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I'm thinking about buying a tablet and dont really buy into the whole apple thing, so I was wondering if the Archos 101 2.2 16gb was a good product.
What do you guys think. How does it stand on its own and against others like the iPad and the Samsung for example.
Many thanks
I recommend if you can wait for Motorola XOOM. The better choice with Honeycomb already.
Well... they're slightly different.
The archos can do things the ipad can't, like playing most types of video files, connect to TV via HDMI, connect NTFS HDD via USB to it.
It can't do 3G natively, but you can tether to your mobile if you need to browse away from home/WiFi.
So the Archos does most things the iPad can and then many more..., but it can't do the things the iPad can do quite as well. Not badly, just not quite as suave, if you get my gist.
The ipad is smoother to use, the screen is better, but then it costs almost double the money of the Archos.
So from where I stand, I prefer the Archos for it's flexibility and price wise, I'd rather have 2 Archos than 1 iPad.
The xoom looks good, especially with A3.0....
Is the Archos flashable to 3.0 or will it only run on 2.2?
I do think at half the price the Archos is good value for money, especially if you think about where the amrket is right now.....
choices, choices....
Xoom looks nice indeed, but with dual core, more RAM, etc... it'll cost you what the iPad costs.
Am I correct in that the archos has an ARM Cortex A8 at 1 GHz with DSP? I can't seem to find out how much RAM it has. It doesnt seem to say on their site. Has anyone had any experience of successfully overclocking this processor and to what stable speeds?
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897877
there will be much better tablets available in the next few months, but right now
I think the 101 is the best value for money 10" android tablet you can buy.
I have had mine since dec 16th and cant fault it. (the screen isnt brilliant when it comes to viewing angles, but is crisp and bright).
The battery lasts me 2 days on moderate use.
It connects easily to my wifi and can see all my networked media via upnp.
I can output to a tv or monitor by hdmi.
I can play every format of video file I have.
It runs smoothly and without crashes now that I have the latest firmware and Zeam launcher.
It uses the wifi hotspot from my HTC Desire.
I can use a Wii remote to control emulator games on it.
I can read comics and ebooks easily.
I can use a wireless keyboard and mouse.
I think the 101 is great value for money, It may never see android 3.0, but it can do so much right now that that isnt a problem to me.
I'd say get one, you wont regret it.
Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
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1. Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
2. Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
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ad 1.: Screen is quite sturdy but prone to Finger Prints and if you need a Mirror, well, there you are . For these two Reasons alone a non-glare Screen Protector greatly improves the Value of the Archos and I won't ever have a Tablet without it. And no: It's not included out of the Box. If it were I'd expect Archos to apply it first hand.
Viewing Angles improve too, from my Experience.
ad 2.: Out of the Box it's Archos own Applib Store, which fills up every Minute, but not necessarely the Apps you need and if so, mostly older Versions of them. Google Apps are missing too.
For this, some clever Developer packed an Archive and some notes how to install Google Apps including Android Market. This is by far the first Thing you should do after powering on your Device for the first Time. Root is not required for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
What's the best place to get one of these in the UK. I've look at getting one from the US were it seems cheaper but the import costs and duty carges kill it of course.
Cheers
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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Thank you for that... I had seen Simplyelectronics and was contemplating an order. How do we stand for online orders in terms of cancelling unfulled orders and getting our money returned. Do the credit card companies help you with this one? I'll defnitely check out bestbyuk - many thanks.
Does anyone know if the 101 wil be compatible with A3.0 and if so will Archos be releasing for the 101?
CarsnGadgets said:
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I had used simplyelectronics also, VERY bad experience. took two weeks to send and they also lied about stock levels to me too :/ customer service was no help either.
I had to involve my credit card protection service in the end before simplyelectronics refunded my money.
I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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where are you ordering yours from?
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where are you ordering yours from?
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I got it from Insight. £269 inc vat. Next day delivery. Brilliant. Go via telephone order though....
So the OG Gtv, Logitech Revue just dropped to $99 today. Anybody picking one up? Anyone already have one? At $99 I think it's worth picking up just to play around with and I plan on getting one sometime this week.
If you have one, please let me know what you think about it. Also, are there any good forums for it? None on XDA obviously bc it's not mobile, but surely there's something decent out there.
I picked one up yesterday. I am still not sure how much I like it yet. But at 99, it is a great price just to play around with. Some of the features are pretty cool, the PIP is really nice. It took a while to setup but didn't take to long to figure out how to work it. I am still looking for forums and sites with good info on it.
I would say if you are the tinker type, for 99 bucks you should pick it up.
Thinking of getting one myself. Found a forum that said XDA had a section for it (which I dont see) and someone even mentioned it being rooted. If this is true, its a no brainer and Im running to get one now. Either way though, its supposed to be updated to Android 3.1 by September.
Android forums has a section on google TV: http://androidforums.com/google-tv/
I think I'm gonna get one, looks like it's a decent value for $100
I ordered mine yesterday. Reviews are strong enough overall that for $99 it seemed like a good bet.
Yeah, it has been rooted, but unfortunately, it requires some hardware mods. A bit difficult on the rooting, but probably still fun to play with. It's also due for a gingerbread update soon. I'll check out the forums, probably pick one up soon. I wonder if it has the market, without being rooted?
3.1 Beta has LEAKED!!! http://www.androidcentral.com/honeycomb-beta-logitech-revue-leaked
There's some pretty good info to be found over at the SatelliteGuys forum. Dish Network is somehow partnered up in this unit (I install for Dish as a subcontractor). Actually, it fully integrates ONLY with certain Dish Network DVR receivers. It'll work with most anything out there but if you have the right Dish receiver and are willing to cough up another $4 to a Dish each month, you get some extra bells and whistles that you don't get with any other provider (like DirecTV, the cable company, etc)... at least out of the box that is.
It's a pretty nice unit and it gets better with each update. I've played around with them some and overall I like it, but it's definitely a niche item. We sell that at our office (at least I've seen them in the warehouse). For $99, I think I'll pick one up myself. My wife will just love another toy hooked up to the tv (rolling eyes with an evil grin)!
EDIT - meant to post the link below to the SatelliteGuys forum. The guy starting off the review many months back always has the best and most accurate info. Great guy. There's like 450 posts to wade thru. Like here, the most up to date stuff is at the end. And, just like the Epic, some people love it and others...not so much!
Give thanks if I've helped u in any way...
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-ne...eguys-review-logitech-revue-googletv-%96.html
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Ordered one just now. XDA definitely needs a forum for this one.
-Rob
gtvhacker.com is where you will find all the info you need on the this
noice, i may get one of these depending on my paycheck
Ordered one from Amazon, but it won't be here for ~2 weeks
Big, huge warning -- if you're going to root it, you have to do it before powering it up for the first time and allowing it to update. You'll also need a TTL (possibly 3.3v and NOT 5v, which might be a bit harder to pull off without additional level conversion... most of the cheap USB-TTL uart bridges I've seen are 5v i/o) serial port adapter, and willingness to open up and solder wires to your brand new Revue & spend an hour or two working on it before you ever get to play with it for the first time. That said, if you DON'T root it, you won't be able to do anything with it besides be a content-consumer -- there's no market yet, and the only way to push your own APK files to it is if it's rooted. Sigh. And Logitech dares to wonder why they didn't sell many prior to the price drop. If they were both freely rootable & reflashable out of the box, and equally easy to restore to factory-virgin firmware, they probably would have sold way more, if only because there would be six dozen apps by now to spoof browser ids to get past provider blocks and play ISO files straight from a networked hard drive ;-)
hopefully someone can pre-root the 3.1 update once its official
The logitech website says its 249.99 but in check out its 99 and they offrerd me free second day shipping
Posted in other thread too.
Logitech has a $50 off $100 purchase. Unique code being sent in email. Add $10 mouse to hit $100
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AJC9000 said:
hopefully someone can pre-root the 3.1 update once its official
The logitech website says its 249.99 but in check out its 99 and they offrerd me free second day shipping
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I just ordered it from the logitech website for $99 and free 2 day shipping. I can't pass on that deal.
I also find it funny that you can buy a replacement keyboard identical to the one that ships with the revue for $99.
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Posted in other thread too.
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smart I was trying to see if 1 day shipping would work for the 50 off
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Posted in other thread too.
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You say "unique code" so does that mean only special people get the discount? Do I need to sign up via email somewhere to get it?
Am i correct by saying that all that these internettv devices like apple tv,googlentv do is put hulu,netflix,youtube on your tv?
Why do i need one if i can just hook up my laptop or ps3 and do same thing.Am i missing something?
Adviceont ever buy PerfectnKeyboard from market,you can see why for yourself.
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Am i correct by saying that all that these internettv devices like apple tv,googlentv do is put hulu,netflix,youtube on your tv?
Why do i need one if i can just hook up my laptop or ps3 and do same thing.Am i missing something?
Adviceont ever buy PerfectnKeyboard from market,you can see why for yourself.
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but but.... you wont have the change inputs lol. yes im getting one. looking forward to the honeycomb update(i refuse to apply the leak)
Where is this $50 off code??
The unit itself has been on the market since February and its had its shortcomings...
It seems whenever I go to the store to play with tablets they all have their faults...however, the Xoom just feels like a real slate (great build quality)
My gf got me a Toshiba Thrive for my birthday. I didnt do any research before (testing them out in person) and I was really unimpressed with the build quality so we returned it.
Asus Transformer has great screen and decent build quality, but the sound is TERRIBLE. The IdeaPad was pretty nice as well - but the display was dimmer then the Xoom and its build quality was so so (lots of flex in a tablet - no go for me)
My real struggle is that the Xoom is still $499. It really is worth more like $449 and at that price I would get one.
Thoughts? Opinions? Please share.
You get what you pay for. If you want an android tablet, the xoom is still the standard. If you can wait until the fall there should be more options.
Shop around. They are turning up for $399 from time to time in some places.
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I just bought one a week ago. It is one of the best purchases I made. Price is always gonna be an issue because if all the tablets drop in price you'restill gonna be asking whether its worth the extra money. I love my Xoom... if I had had $800 when they first came out I would have found it worth it then.
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I just bought one a week ago. It is one of the best purchases I made. Price is always gonna be an issue because if all the tablets drop in price you'restill gonna be asking whether its worth the extra money. I love my Xoom... if I had had $800 when they first came out I would have found it worth it then.
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Yes, for my money, it's also the best tech investment I've made in years.
Thanks for the replies so far guys!
Ultimately these tablets will always be getting better - like cell phones.
But after a year or two im sure I can get something else if I really wanted it. At work I have an IPad 2 just for document purposes and display presentations and I dont like it at all.
Just wanted to see where everyone stands and if they are happy with the purchase...you do get what you pay for and the Xoom seems to have fantastic build quality with no flex.
I paid $399 for mine and I love it. I would deffinetly consider worth it for another $100 if you cant find it for that. I love it more than any device I own, including my phone. I even have my texts forwarded via bluetooth to my Xoom and use it for texting. I'm a student working part time minimum wage retail job so I don't have much money, yet I still don't regret dishing out the $400 for it.
Cheers!
I picked mine up for $399 refurbished from woot and I love it. As others have mentioned, there have been a few places to have them new for that price, but I would definitely be willing to pay the extra $100 if there's not a place to find it for $400. I was always a little skeptical about how useful a tablet could be but the techie in me took over and I kind of impulse bought it when it showed up on woot. I have to say that I'm very glad I made the purchase. I've been using it a lot more than I anticipated and I love it. I prefer the design and feel of the Xoom more than the other available tablets and from what I've seen, it has the best development so far. Though it's only been about 1 month or 2, I'd still pick the Xoom over any other tablet available.
The biggest question would come down to whether or not you think you'd use a tablet. If you think you'd use it, then I'd definitely recommend it, even at the $500 price tag.
Still you can get one on ebay for like 250-300 if you don't want to pay 400-500$.
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i got mine 10 days ago from amazon for $429, a new wifi one, not used or refurbished...plenty are available for $440-$450...3g models r a lil higher...+$50-$60...but ask urself do you realy need a 3g model...i personally dont mis it...i hav a dell streak 5 as a phone n do wifi tethering wen i need to...i got a belkin slim folio, zagg shield n alupen stylus from amazon itself...altogether cost me about $495...i consider it to b a snag....m in india, n here the xooms market price is still $700 so i got a steal...my fiance's in the US rite now so i just asked her to get me one... seriously i promise you, you wont regret it...its still the best... just go with xda n no galaxy tabs 10.1 or otherwise or even ipad2 comes close to it... i'm a happy camper...
What I also forgot to mention...
My GF bought me a Thrive and we returned it. Build quality was subpar - not stylish nor ergonomic at all.
NO Development community, although the tablet is new and that is to be expected.
Xoom seems to have custom ROMS and Kernels - although Im more of a purist anyway (AOSP on Phone) So I would probably be more interested in Kernel Dev than anything else.
I paid 750 for mine when it first came out. I'm happy with my purchase. Custom kernals and mods make it even better...and yeah,I could've waited and paid less...what's the fun in that?
I picked up a Xoom from Newegg last Thursday and I must say this thing is awesome. Newegg is currently selling them for $479 with free shipping and a $40 Newegg giftcard.
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I picked up a Xoom from Newegg last Thursday and I must say this thing is awesome. Newegg is currently selling them for $479 with free shipping and a $40 Newegg giftcard.
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also for 10 bucks more they toss in KASPERSKY lab Tablet Security
Im gonna buy a xoom I just cant decide on if I should get the wifi only or with the 3g ?
I thought it would be good to have just incase im in a area with no wifi
PS I was at Best Buy and there was a older lady playing with the tablets and got so frustrated and tossed her hands up in the air and said screw this I cant figure these things out
yes its worth it.
i started with a gtablet just to see if i would use it. wound up using it more than my desktop or notebook. i used the gtab for about 3-4 months
the screen on the gtablet is horrible. so i decided to buy a hc tablet with a better screen. my first choice was the acer iconia onsale at target. after 2 swapouts due to faulty hardware i bit the bullet and got the xoom. that was a week ago.
it blows any other tablet i tried out the water. i so do not regret it.
Dave
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Im gonna buy a xoom I just cant decide on if I should get the wifi only or with the 3g ?
I thought it would be good to have just incase im in a area with no wifi
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If you have an android phone you may be able to bluetooth tether it to your xoom.
If you google "xoom tether droid" there's a how to several results down from androidcentral (since I can't link)
Android phones with Gingerbread installed support WiFi Hotspot tethering. You can turn your phone in an access point for your Xoom tablet.
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If you have an android phone you may be able to bluetooth tether it to your xoom.
If you google "xoom tether droid" there's a how to several results down from androidcentral (since I can't link)
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Doh'! It's been a very long week my mind just isn't thinking lol... yeah I have a HTC Inspire to tether with cant believe I didn't think of that
looks like I'm gonna order mine from New Egg this week and toss in the kasper for a extra 10 bucks and use that 40 dollar gift card for a case
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also for 10 bucks more they toss in KASPERSKY lab Tablet Security
Im gonna buy a xoom I just cant decide on if I should get the wifi only or with the 3g ?
I thought it would be good to have just incase im in a area with no wifi
PS I was at Best Buy and there was a older lady playing with the tablets and got so frustrated and tossed her hands up in the air and said screw this I cant figure these things out
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And hopefully you offered to help her...;^ )
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And hopefully you offered to help her...;^ )
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lol I actually did , she couldn't get the keyboard to pop up, I dunno if she bought the xoom, but last year I helped a lady buy a Toshiba laptop and I dont even work at best buy
don't think the sales man was happy I talked her out of having the geek squad making her back up disks for a extra 75 bucks ... I thought that was ridiculous of best buy to rip people off like that so i wrote down the instructions for her on how to do it her self for nothing lol
i'm debating between the htc flyer and the n7, but my main concern with the n7 is all the issues that have been discussed and people having had to do 3 RMAs, etc. So is it still worth it?
I'm not sure what the defect rate of the current Nexus 7s are now, but as far as alternatives go, the HTC Flyer is completely outclassed with its single core processor. If you're considering alternatives, you should really look for something with a dual core processor, like the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7".
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I'm not sure what the defect rate of the current Nexus 7s are now, but as far as alternatives go, the HTC Flyer is completely outclassed with its single core processor. If you're considering alternatives, you should really look for something with a dual core processor, like the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7".
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well im looking to spend $250 or less, new or used. I'm not looking to compare the flyer and n7, as i already know it would be unfair. Not a fan of samsung tablets, and for the tablet i dont need the latest and greatest specs on it. I owned a nook color and was very happy with it, enjoyed my tf101 but the screen was a bit big for my tastes.
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well im looking to spend $250 or less, new or used. I'm not looking to compare the flyer and n7, as i already know it would be unfair. Not a fan of samsung tablets, and for the tablet i dont need the latest and greatest specs on it. I owned a nook color and was very happy with it, enjoyed my tf101 but the screen was a bit big for my tastes.
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If you liked the Nook Color, why not consider the Nook Tablet?
EDIT: I would also take people's complaints here about "defects" with a grain of salt. Yes, of course there are always going to be real manufacturing defects in a product line, but geeks tend to be more...particular than the average consumer. If you're really concerned about it go to a retail store and open it right there to make sure it's to your liking. At least that way too you can return the same day if needed.
Do it. Eventually you'll get a good one, hopefully on the first try.
You won't be dissapointed coming from those other devices. I'm still rather impressed having a transformer prime, just how well this thing does.
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If you liked the Nook Color, why not consider the Nook Tablet?
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That would be the wrong move. Sure it goes from a single to dual core processor. But your left with a tablet that is so locked down, and has practically no development. Vs. the color which was pretty cool in its day and has tons of mods. I was very dissapointed after I got a nook tab for my girlfriend.
There is a nook app, and a kindle app. There's no reason to have a nook or kindle after the release of the Nexus. IMO.
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If you liked the Nook Color, why not consider the Nook Tablet?
EDIT: I would also take people's complaints here about "defects" with a grain of salt. Yes, of course there are always going to be real manufacturing defects in a product line, but geeks tend to be more...particular than the average consumer. If you're really concerned about it go to a retail store and open it right there to make sure it's to your liking. At least that way too you can return the same day if needed.
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i kinda wanted something similar but with a front facing camera. yeah i guess i could go into a store
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Do it. Eventually you'll get a good one, hopefully on the first try.
You won't be dissapointed coming from those other devices. I'm still rather impressed having a transformer prime, just how well this thing does.
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yeah, im sure eventually i would get a good one but its (potentially) a lot of time/energy used.
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yeah, im sure eventually i would get a good one but its (potentially) a lot of time/energy used.
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I'll admit, I did get a replacement. But that replacement seems good so far. And from the play store, it wasn't really all that much of a hassle. If you can find it locally, it's even less hassle.
I just think in the 7" form factor, it would be silly to get anything else, if you don't like samsung. (me included)
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I'll admit, I did get a replacement. But that replacement seems good so far. And from the play store, it wasn't really all that much of a hassle. If you can find it locally, it's even less hassle.
I just think in the 7" form factor, it would be silly to get anything else, if you don't like samsung. (me included)
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i figured most people on xda have gotten at least 1 replacement, if not more, but thats good to hear the returns via the play store are relatively easy. i guess i'll have to compare final prices and see where i can get the best deal and think about it all.
received mine on monday, perfect condition. i cant complain about anything on the n7, even if i wanted too. for the price, nothing out there even comes close.
Coming from a single core 7 inch tablet, I can say that going with the Nexus 7 is the better choice.
The issues people have been having is due to their very meticulous nature.
Screen separation? There's a guide to fix that. You can send it to Asus to get it fixed, but you can spend 15 mins to fix it yourself.
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received mine on monday, perfect condition. i cant complain about anything on the n7, even if i wanted too. for the price, nothing out there even comes close.
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great to hear that, where did you buy from? I might buy from the google play store, cheapest price i can find without buying used.
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Coming from a single core 7 inch tablet, I can say that going with the Nexus 7 is the better choice.
The issues people have been having is due to their very meticulous nature.
Screen separation? There's a guide to fix that. You can send it to Asus to get it fixed, but you can spend 15 mins to fix it yourself.
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Well i happen to be one of those meticulous natured people, when i buy something i expect at the very least that it would be in the condition i paid money for. So once a few more people chime in i might just go ahead and buy from the play store, unless there's somewhere better/cheaper/faster. I checked local close by stores and they are all $250 not including tax yet...for comparison the play store total price is $231.85.
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great to hear that, where did you buy from? I might buy from the google play store, cheapest price i can find without buying used.
Well i happen to be one of those meticulous natured people, when i buy something i expect at the very least that it would be in the condition i paid money for. So once a few more people chime in i might just go ahead and buy from the play store, unless there's somewhere better/cheaper/faster. I checked local close by stores and they are all $250 not including tax yet...for comparison the play store total price is $231.85.
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from google play, 16gb version.
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well im looking to spend $250 or less, new or used. I'm not looking to compare the flyer and n7, as i already know it would be unfair. Not a fan of samsung tablets, and for the tablet i dont need the latest and greatest specs on it. I owned a nook color and was very happy with it, enjoyed my tf101 but the screen was a bit big for my tastes.
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I think I read somewhere that the Galaxy Tab 2 7" is on sale this week at Walmart for $250 with a $50 gc, which brings the net price down to $200 if you want to count the gc as cash. Any reason why you don't like Samsung tablets? You can always load a custom rom if you don't like Touchwiz (which I don't).
i had an HTC Evo View 4G (Sprint's version of the HTC Flyer). My thoughts...
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i'm debating between the htc flyer and the n7, but my main concern with the n7 is all the issues that have been discussed and people having had to do 3 RMAs, etc. So is it still worth it?
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As the title states, I had the Sprint version of the HTC Flyer, and I liked it a lot. It was relatively snappy, running Honeycomb 3.2, and I had 32GB onboard and a 32GB microSD card in it, so I could carry around a fair amount of music and movies for airplane rides, etc.
I ended up leaving it on an airplane, and I was dejected for a full week before I decided to pre-order the Nexus 7. I got it through MacMall and it has been pretty solid so far. Very slight raised screen on the left side, but literally 1mm tops, and not noticeable. It's not spongy, but it does give if you press hard on the screen (which I never do). As for Jelly Bean 4.1, it is hands down superior to Honeycomb in every way shape and form, and you can definitely tell the difference in responsiveness with the N7. Loading apps like Netflix, Pulse, Kindle, etc. is at least five times faster on the N7 vs. the HTC, and it should be. Also, I paid $230 for the HTC when it was on sale last year, and while I don't regret that amount paid for it, the $249 (no tax + free shipping) for the N7 is a great deal, assuming you get one in good shape.
I would recommend buying from a local retail store so you can exchange and exchange until you get a good unit. It seems like there are a lot of faulty ones out there, but then again, this is a forum where people are going to go to gripe about their issues, not bask in the glory of their perfectly functioning devices.
Nexus 7, without a doubt.
AZImmortal said:
I think I read somewhere that the Galaxy Tab 2 7" is on sale this week at Walmart for $250 with a $50 gc, which brings the net price down to $200 if you want to count the gc as cash. Any reason why you don't like Samsung tablets? You can always load a custom rom if you don't like Touchwiz (which I don't).
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I'm just not a fan of Samsung stuff in general, I've tried their stuff and read reviews and there is always some issue that has didn't play in their favor, ie: looks, cost, etc...As my signature says I'm an HTC and ASUS fanboy, I guess part of it is I just like the underdogs, like how I like AMD instead of Intel.
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As the title states, I had the Sprint version of the HTC Flyer, and I liked it a lot. It was relatively snappy, running Honeycomb 3.2, and I had 32GB onboard and a 32GB microSD card in it, so I could carry around a fair amount of music and movies for airplane rides, etc.
I ended up leaving it on an airplane, and I was dejected for a full week before I decided to pre-order the Nexus 7. I got it through MacMall and it has been pretty solid so far. Very slight raised screen on the left side, but literally 1mm tops, and not noticeable. It's not spongy, but it does give if you press hard on the screen (which I never do). As for Jelly Bean 4.1, it is hands down superior to Honeycomb in every way shape and form, and you can definitely tell the difference in responsiveness with the N7. Loading apps like Netflix, Pulse, Kindle, etc. is at least five times faster on the N7 vs. the HTC, and it should be. Also, I paid $230 for the HTC when it was on sale last year, and while I don't regret that amount paid for it, the $249 (no tax + free shipping) for the N7 is a great deal, assuming you get one in good shape.
I would recommend buying from a local retail store so you can exchange and exchange until you get a good unit. It seems like there are a lot of faulty ones out there, but then again, this is a forum where people are going to go to gripe about their issues, not bask in the glory of their perfectly functioning devices.
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Thanks, for the detailed review/personal anecdote. I will wait a bit before buying since it can only get cheaper as time goes on (i hope).
Roland Deschain said:
Nexus 7, without a doubt.
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duely noted.
I haven't had a single defect on my tablet. Its beautiful, fast, and priced to change the game. I would not hesitate to buy this tablet, unless you have severe OCD, then I probably wouldn't buy any tablet or electronic device, as you will certainly find something to bother you if you look hard enough.
I also owned the HTC EVO View 4G (HTC Flyer) and sold it before buying the N7. It is lighter, slimmer, faster, better screen, and just all around better.
Don't get the Flyer unless you can get it for $100.
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I haven't had a single defect on my tablet. Its beautiful, fast, and priced to change the game. I would not hesitate to buy this tablet, unless you have severe OCD, then I probably wouldn't buy any tablet or electronic device, as you will certainly find something to bother you if you look hard enough.
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nice, good to hear and bet you were happy when you got it!
RedWingsFan said:
I also owned the HTC EVO View 4G (HTC Flyer) and sold it before buying the N7. It is lighter, slimmer, faster, better screen, and just all around better.
Don't get the Flyer unless you can get it for $100.
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thanks for the input, i'll take this into consideration.
I know there had been a couple of these threads so my apologies ahead of time. I an looking to buy my son a tablet for the holidays. In my research I was drawn to this one for its stock experience, specs, expandable storage, stylus, and gaming. Problem I am having is all the threads taking about cracks and poor WiFi. The tablet will almost exclusively be used in my house and mainly in the room with the router. My son is only 7 so he is not ready for some of the more intense games but I like the idea that he can grow with this and that the specs will carry over for a while. My plan would be to use my ouya controller at first then work my way to buying the nvidia controller if he is playing enough on it to warrant
I can get him a nexus 7 for $120 less or a galaxy tab 8.4 pro for $50 less but both have their shortcomings. I guess my question is are the complaints a vocal minority or is this tablet a great idea not truly realized? Thanks in advance for any thoughts
It's true the wifi is not top notch, but it works fine anyway. It simply does not have the best range it could possibly have. It's not a dealbreaker for me.
Cracked edges - no problems here, and I think this is a minority problem.
Overall I am pleased with the tablet. The battery life is OK. I love the stylus and the fact that I can stream games from my PC. Just the other day I was playing FIFA 14 from my PC with an XBOX 360 PC controller connected with an USB OTG cable.
My advice: go for it. The tablet is solid.
cheers
-flak
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I know there had been a couple of these threads so my apologies ahead of time. I an looking to buy my son a tablet for the holidays. In my research I was drawn to this one for its stock experience, specs, expandable storage, stylus, and gaming. Problem I am having is all the threads taking about cracks and poor WiFi. The tablet will almost exclusively be used in my house and mainly in the room with the router. My son is only 7 so he is not ready for some of the more intense games but I like the idea that he can grow with this and that the specs will carry over for a while. My plan would be to use my ouya controller at first then work my way to buying the nvidia controller if he is playing enough on it to warrant
I can get him a nexus 7 for $120 less or a galaxy tab 8.4 pro for $50 less but both have their shortcomings. I guess my question is are the complaints a vocal minority or is this tablet a great idea not truly realized? Thanks in advance for any thoughts
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I have just recently purchased the Shield and this was a unit that was a RMA replacement that the seller got when he sent his back because of the issue with cracks. I have been completely happy with the unit thus far and the fact that it is near stock is a huge benefit. I also have a Nexus 7 (2012) that my daughter uses and while it works well for her (8 years old) it doesn't have quickness that the Nvidia does. As for WiFi I have had no issues at all with mine, I know others here have but I have not.
I also have a couple of Samsung Galaxy Tab 3's in the house and they are garbage, I won't buy another Samsung product as I have had nothing but trouble with them.
Also in the coming weeks if you keep a close eye on Craigslist you can probably find someone selling a near new Nvidia as the lemmings part with them to go get the new Nexus 9 or the latest piece from Apple. That's what I did and saved quite a bit off retail.
MG
I hear you, I am trying to low ball someone on Craigslist who says he just picked up an I pad air. Don't think he is biting but it's worth a shot.
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I know there had been a couple of these threads so my apologies ahead of time. I an looking to buy my son a tablet for the holidays. In my research I was drawn to this one for its stock experience, specs, expandable storage, stylus, and gaming. Problem I am having is all the threads taking about cracks and poor WiFi. The tablet will almost exclusively be used in my house and mainly in the room with the router. My son is only 7 so he is not ready for some of the more intense games but I like the idea that he can grow with this and that the specs will carry over for a while. My plan would be to use my ouya controller at first then work my way to buying the nvidia controller if he is playing enough on it to warrant
I can get him a nexus 7 for $120 less or a galaxy tab 8.4 pro for $50 less but both have their shortcomings. I guess my question is are the complaints a vocal minority or is this tablet a great idea not truly realized? Thanks in advance for any thoughts
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I just got mine (LTE model) last night and seriously, I have never seen a tablet fly like this one does! It is beautiful, feels great in the hand, WIFI and LTE work great and it is just a pleasure to use. I'm not a serious gamer but really wanted it for media, art-making and everything else I can do with a fast and sleek android tablet, including some light gaming. I am not at all disappointed.
Rooting with towelroot was super simple and didn't require unlocking. It is sweeeet!
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I hear you, I am trying to low ball someone on Craigslist who says he just picked up an I pad air. Don't think he is biting but it's worth a shot.
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Hope he sells to you and has it has underlying issues. Can't stand people like you on craigslist.
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demo23019 said:
Hope he sells to you and has it has underlying issues. Can't stand people like you on craigslist.
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Calm down he was asking for 325 for a bundle but I dont want half of it. I offered 250 he can take it or leave it. If no one else offers anything he can choose if it is worth it to him. I sell a ton on Craigslist and can make my own decisions on if I like an offer or not.
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I hear you, I am trying to low ball someone on Craigslist who says he just picked up an I pad air. Don't think he is biting but it's worth a shot.
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Well folks can criticize low balling if they like but in my case I went low on a WiFi model and was very nice and respectful in my language when I made it. He politely turned me down but I was patient and after I noticed it was still listed (and re-listed) two weeks later I contacted him again and restated my offer with a kind note that "with Apple and Google releasing new devices it may be difficult to move a lesser known device like this at the price you're asking." He emailed me back within minutes asking if I could come up $20 and he'd throw in the 64GB MicroSD he bought for it. I kindly agreed since I was going to pay at least $30 for one on Amazon anyway.
My point is there is nothing wrong with low balling if you are respectful about it. If the person refuses and gets more for their device then great, many times they won't but if you're a d*ck they won't even take a low ball offer seriously.
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As with any transaction there is a worth to the purchaser. I only said my offer was low ball because I would be getting the tablet, case, controller, and 32gb SD for $325 which is a great value retail. I did not intend on buying the remote, don't want the nvidia case, and have an SD. So to me I am buying a used tablet for the same price as retail but getting allot more in the end. I run the risk of the potential that the unit has issues and the struggle of getting nvidia to make good not being the original purchaser.