I'm thinking about buying a tablet and dont really buy into the whole apple thing, so I was wondering if the Archos 101 2.2 16gb was a good product.
What do you guys think. How does it stand on its own and against others like the iPad and the Samsung for example.
Many thanks
I recommend if you can wait for Motorola XOOM. The better choice with Honeycomb already.
Well... they're slightly different.
The archos can do things the ipad can't, like playing most types of video files, connect to TV via HDMI, connect NTFS HDD via USB to it.
It can't do 3G natively, but you can tether to your mobile if you need to browse away from home/WiFi.
So the Archos does most things the iPad can and then many more..., but it can't do the things the iPad can do quite as well. Not badly, just not quite as suave, if you get my gist.
The ipad is smoother to use, the screen is better, but then it costs almost double the money of the Archos.
So from where I stand, I prefer the Archos for it's flexibility and price wise, I'd rather have 2 Archos than 1 iPad.
The xoom looks good, especially with A3.0....
Is the Archos flashable to 3.0 or will it only run on 2.2?
I do think at half the price the Archos is good value for money, especially if you think about where the amrket is right now.....
choices, choices....
Xoom looks nice indeed, but with dual core, more RAM, etc... it'll cost you what the iPad costs.
Am I correct in that the archos has an ARM Cortex A8 at 1 GHz with DSP? I can't seem to find out how much RAM it has. It doesnt seem to say on their site. Has anyone had any experience of successfully overclocking this processor and to what stable speeds?
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897877
there will be much better tablets available in the next few months, but right now
I think the 101 is the best value for money 10" android tablet you can buy.
I have had mine since dec 16th and cant fault it. (the screen isnt brilliant when it comes to viewing angles, but is crisp and bright).
The battery lasts me 2 days on moderate use.
It connects easily to my wifi and can see all my networked media via upnp.
I can output to a tv or monitor by hdmi.
I can play every format of video file I have.
It runs smoothly and without crashes now that I have the latest firmware and Zeam launcher.
It uses the wifi hotspot from my HTC Desire.
I can use a Wii remote to control emulator games on it.
I can read comics and ebooks easily.
I can use a wireless keyboard and mouse.
I think the 101 is great value for money, It may never see android 3.0, but it can do so much right now that that isnt a problem to me.
I'd say get one, you wont regret it.
Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
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1. Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
2. Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
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ad 1.: Screen is quite sturdy but prone to Finger Prints and if you need a Mirror, well, there you are . For these two Reasons alone a non-glare Screen Protector greatly improves the Value of the Archos and I won't ever have a Tablet without it. And no: It's not included out of the Box. If it were I'd expect Archos to apply it first hand.
Viewing Angles improve too, from my Experience.
ad 2.: Out of the Box it's Archos own Applib Store, which fills up every Minute, but not necessarely the Apps you need and if so, mostly older Versions of them. Google Apps are missing too.
For this, some clever Developer packed an Archive and some notes how to install Google Apps including Android Market. This is by far the first Thing you should do after powering on your Device for the first Time. Root is not required for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
What's the best place to get one of these in the UK. I've look at getting one from the US were it seems cheaper but the import costs and duty carges kill it of course.
Cheers
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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Thank you for that... I had seen Simplyelectronics and was contemplating an order. How do we stand for online orders in terms of cancelling unfulled orders and getting our money returned. Do the credit card companies help you with this one? I'll defnitely check out bestbyuk - many thanks.
Does anyone know if the 101 wil be compatible with A3.0 and if so will Archos be releasing for the 101?
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I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I had used simplyelectronics also, VERY bad experience. took two weeks to send and they also lied about stock levels to me too :/ customer service was no help either.
I had to involve my credit card protection service in the end before simplyelectronics refunded my money.
I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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where are you ordering yours from?
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where are you ordering yours from?
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I got it from Insight. £269 inc vat. Next day delivery. Brilliant. Go via telephone order though....
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***Since the purpose of the poll is to see who will buy, I am not including the "not sure" option. Please just decide.***
At $800 I still think I'll be picking it up pending a couple of confirmations.
The first being that the HDMI outputs the entire screen like on the Notion Ink Adam, and not like my EVO with only outputting from 2 specific applications.
Second is that they won't require a charge/service to activate WiFi. I have no interest in mobile data. If I need access where I don't usually have it I can tether it to my phone.
I want honeycomb, and I want the higher resolution screen over the Adam, so I'm willing to pay more for them. Until it's released or an official price (rather than a leaked possibly faked/mocked up ad) I'll have to wait and see.
same. my nexus one tethers very well. With unlimited 3g plan from tmobile, im all set on data.
I voted that the Xoom is too expensive for my taste.To be honest, the Toshiba tablet is actually better spec'd than the Xoom. I think I'm going to wait for that one. It's rumored to be $500 wifi only.
I'm getting it regardless. My verizon account is under a military suspension until I re-activate it at no charge, and I currently have a $160 credit on it lol. I just found out, so it's almost like I'm getting it for $640. Hopefully it gets subsidized by vzw for 300, then I can just get it and cancel, then really get it for $650.
I'm not worried about price, it will get worked out... all this talk about the price should show motorola there is a huge consumer demand for their tablet.
I'm a no but with a caveiat. I don't need a 32 gig tablet. If Moto comes out with a 16 gig version that would fall more in line with my price point.
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I'll bite if the price is $700 without this bogus wifi activation fee.
But rather than buying first day, I'm now planning on waiting to see if TMo's G-Slate is any good. I doubt there will be Xoom shortages, so I see no reason to be first-in-line.
Yes. I don't think there'll be any shortages.
Although I can't see LG going significantly (or any) lower than the xoom given its 3d features.
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I'm on board with existing conditions. Notion Ink Adam is still vapor to me. As much as I applaud their David and Goliath struggle that is increasing rare, I must face facts. There is no guarantee that they will be around in 2 years, hell they could be hemorrhaging funds and be under in the next 6 months.
I also don't think the 1.2" smaller screen on the LG G-Slate will make up for the extra 5mp camera, and 120hz capable screen. Plus, who the hell asked for 3D in a tablet. It's as bad as Sprint's stupid kyocera dual screen phone. It's an industry first AND LAST.
Toshiba Tablet seems like a botched job. How does a tablet get a fancy photoshop/flash website before a name . I don't suspect there will be many cheap tablets this year without sacrifices in quality. Example the semi-crappy screen in the Viewsonic G-Tablet I returned.
It's XOOM XOOM XOOM for me. I just hope I can hold back the tears when I charge 963$ for the XOOM and the Folio case.
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I'm a no but with a caveiat. I don't need a 32 gig tablet. If Moto comes out with a 16 gig version that would fall more in line with my price point.
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How much do you think it would drop? I don't think there is much difference between the 16/32gb memory anymore. I highly doubt that the difference is more the $50 and that is probably a high estimate!
16 is standard on almost all new/upcoming devices. I think all the vendors are just depleting their stocks.
I think Toshiba has learned from the Folio 100 tablet disaster, and the will come with a much better product. Not too many companies get a second chance in such a short period of time.
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I'm on board with existing conditions. Notion Ink Adam is still vapor to me. As much as I applaud their David and Goliath struggle that is increasing rare, I must face facts. There is no guarantee that they will be around in 2 years, hell they could be hemorrhaging funds and be under in the next 6 months.
I also don't think the 1.2" smaller screen on the LG G-Slate will make up for the extra 5mp camera, and 120hz capable screen. Plus, who the hell asked for 3D in a tablet. It's as bad as Sprint's stupid kyocera dual screen phone. It's an industry first AND LAST.
Toshiba Tablet seems like a botched job. How does a tablet get a fancy photoshop/flash website before a name . I don't suspect there will be many cheap tablets this year without sacrifices in quality. Example the semi-crappy screen in the Viewsonic G-Tablet I returned.
It's XOOM XOOM XOOM for me. I just hope I can hold back the tears when I charge 963$ for the XOOM and the Folio case.
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One possible issue I have with the G-Slate is lack of an SD card slot. I've been looking at images and reading through descriptions, and not only is there no sign of a slot, but it looks like they're marketing it as a device with 32GB storage... period. Also, I agree that the 3D is pointless and unnecessary, but I'm still willing to give the tablet a fair shake.
If all reports are wrong, and the Xoom is closer to $650, I'll buy it on day one. If it's between $700 and $800, I'm waiting for another month. After all, we know that HTC and Asus are in the mix as well.
I think we need the option of "I will when the price comes down".
I told myself i would cringe and jump for the 700 price point. 800 - that is hard to justify. Yes, people, i know it's comprable to the ipad (with those specs), which is why i bought an iPad off craigslist for under 400 bucks - because it met my price point. I could literally take a weeklong cruise for the same price.
As for the contract - no thanks, this will be on wifi unless I am on a road trip or something. Even then - the Evo does wifi hotspot.
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One possible issue I have with the G-Slate is lack of an SD card slot. I've been looking at images and reading through descriptions, and not only is there no sign of a slot, but it looks like they're marketing it as a device with 32GB storage... period. Also, I agree that the 3D is pointless and unnecessary, but I'm still willing to give the tablet a fair shake.
If all reports are wrong, and the Xoom is closer to $650, I'll buy it on day one. If it's between $700 and $800, I'm waiting for another month. After all, we know that HTC and Asus are in the mix as well.
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Looking around the market, I don't see much room for the XOOM to drop. After owning a Viewsonic G-Tablet, I think I see the shape of 500$ tablets. That tablet was good, except that it skimped on pretty much everything. It had a substandard screen(bad viewing angles), substandard touch sensitivity, a finicky wifi adapter(possibly software), and it seems that they installed the accelerometer wrong. Apps that only ran in portrait were always upside down.
I am not sure, but I think the Toshiba Folio 100 was only marginally less of a train wreck. A $650 XOOM would be fantastic, but maybe impossible. I think the iPad is only as cheap as it is because of some unique and smart investments by Apple, and their extremely iterative process of baby steps forward. This cheapens their process. Also they can, not saying they are, take a loss on the tablet, or use a razer thin profit margin and make it up in apps. Motorola has to make their money on the XOOM itself, Apple can play a different game. Then again there is a company with no buying power, Notion Ink, that confounds me. Perhaps the industry has me brainwashed.
I want to just go to sleep and wake up on the 24th.
DCVIPERBOY. There is no contract. Just Verizon forcing you to pay for one month of service to ensure they make some money on this.
Anyone see the FCC report on engadget? Looks like the wifi version is passing through. Hoping it'll launch the same day as the 3g/4g version. 650 could put moto back in the game.
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If there's a wifi only version of the Xoom I'd really consider it...
I dont need a 3g plan with a tablet - I can use my phone as a hotspot for that if need be.... why would I want to pay twice monthly?
also I'd hope it would be cheaper wifi only ;p
Buying, but waiting for wifi only. Evo with wifi router ftw.
i will be getting it regardless of the price. my wife and i are getting an very good return and we figured that we can spend money on something that we really want but probably wont be able to get later. We agreed we can spoil ourselves with one thing then we will use rest for our move. Im usually not an first adopter but i first time for everything
The unit itself has been on the market since February and its had its shortcomings...
It seems whenever I go to the store to play with tablets they all have their faults...however, the Xoom just feels like a real slate (great build quality)
My gf got me a Toshiba Thrive for my birthday. I didnt do any research before (testing them out in person) and I was really unimpressed with the build quality so we returned it.
Asus Transformer has great screen and decent build quality, but the sound is TERRIBLE. The IdeaPad was pretty nice as well - but the display was dimmer then the Xoom and its build quality was so so (lots of flex in a tablet - no go for me)
My real struggle is that the Xoom is still $499. It really is worth more like $449 and at that price I would get one.
Thoughts? Opinions? Please share.
You get what you pay for. If you want an android tablet, the xoom is still the standard. If you can wait until the fall there should be more options.
Shop around. They are turning up for $399 from time to time in some places.
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I just bought one a week ago. It is one of the best purchases I made. Price is always gonna be an issue because if all the tablets drop in price you'restill gonna be asking whether its worth the extra money. I love my Xoom... if I had had $800 when they first came out I would have found it worth it then.
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I just bought one a week ago. It is one of the best purchases I made. Price is always gonna be an issue because if all the tablets drop in price you'restill gonna be asking whether its worth the extra money. I love my Xoom... if I had had $800 when they first came out I would have found it worth it then.
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Yes, for my money, it's also the best tech investment I've made in years.
Thanks for the replies so far guys!
Ultimately these tablets will always be getting better - like cell phones.
But after a year or two im sure I can get something else if I really wanted it. At work I have an IPad 2 just for document purposes and display presentations and I dont like it at all.
Just wanted to see where everyone stands and if they are happy with the purchase...you do get what you pay for and the Xoom seems to have fantastic build quality with no flex.
I paid $399 for mine and I love it. I would deffinetly consider worth it for another $100 if you cant find it for that. I love it more than any device I own, including my phone. I even have my texts forwarded via bluetooth to my Xoom and use it for texting. I'm a student working part time minimum wage retail job so I don't have much money, yet I still don't regret dishing out the $400 for it.
Cheers!
I picked mine up for $399 refurbished from woot and I love it. As others have mentioned, there have been a few places to have them new for that price, but I would definitely be willing to pay the extra $100 if there's not a place to find it for $400. I was always a little skeptical about how useful a tablet could be but the techie in me took over and I kind of impulse bought it when it showed up on woot. I have to say that I'm very glad I made the purchase. I've been using it a lot more than I anticipated and I love it. I prefer the design and feel of the Xoom more than the other available tablets and from what I've seen, it has the best development so far. Though it's only been about 1 month or 2, I'd still pick the Xoom over any other tablet available.
The biggest question would come down to whether or not you think you'd use a tablet. If you think you'd use it, then I'd definitely recommend it, even at the $500 price tag.
Still you can get one on ebay for like 250-300 if you don't want to pay 400-500$.
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i got mine 10 days ago from amazon for $429, a new wifi one, not used or refurbished...plenty are available for $440-$450...3g models r a lil higher...+$50-$60...but ask urself do you realy need a 3g model...i personally dont mis it...i hav a dell streak 5 as a phone n do wifi tethering wen i need to...i got a belkin slim folio, zagg shield n alupen stylus from amazon itself...altogether cost me about $495...i consider it to b a snag....m in india, n here the xooms market price is still $700 so i got a steal...my fiance's in the US rite now so i just asked her to get me one... seriously i promise you, you wont regret it...its still the best... just go with xda n no galaxy tabs 10.1 or otherwise or even ipad2 comes close to it... i'm a happy camper...
What I also forgot to mention...
My GF bought me a Thrive and we returned it. Build quality was subpar - not stylish nor ergonomic at all.
NO Development community, although the tablet is new and that is to be expected.
Xoom seems to have custom ROMS and Kernels - although Im more of a purist anyway (AOSP on Phone) So I would probably be more interested in Kernel Dev than anything else.
I paid 750 for mine when it first came out. I'm happy with my purchase. Custom kernals and mods make it even better...and yeah,I could've waited and paid less...what's the fun in that?
I picked up a Xoom from Newegg last Thursday and I must say this thing is awesome. Newegg is currently selling them for $479 with free shipping and a $40 Newegg giftcard.
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I picked up a Xoom from Newegg last Thursday and I must say this thing is awesome. Newegg is currently selling them for $479 with free shipping and a $40 Newegg giftcard.
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also for 10 bucks more they toss in KASPERSKY lab Tablet Security
Im gonna buy a xoom I just cant decide on if I should get the wifi only or with the 3g ?
I thought it would be good to have just incase im in a area with no wifi
PS I was at Best Buy and there was a older lady playing with the tablets and got so frustrated and tossed her hands up in the air and said screw this I cant figure these things out
yes its worth it.
i started with a gtablet just to see if i would use it. wound up using it more than my desktop or notebook. i used the gtab for about 3-4 months
the screen on the gtablet is horrible. so i decided to buy a hc tablet with a better screen. my first choice was the acer iconia onsale at target. after 2 swapouts due to faulty hardware i bit the bullet and got the xoom. that was a week ago.
it blows any other tablet i tried out the water. i so do not regret it.
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Im gonna buy a xoom I just cant decide on if I should get the wifi only or with the 3g ?
I thought it would be good to have just incase im in a area with no wifi
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If you have an android phone you may be able to bluetooth tether it to your xoom.
If you google "xoom tether droid" there's a how to several results down from androidcentral (since I can't link)
Android phones with Gingerbread installed support WiFi Hotspot tethering. You can turn your phone in an access point for your Xoom tablet.
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If you have an android phone you may be able to bluetooth tether it to your xoom.
If you google "xoom tether droid" there's a how to several results down from androidcentral (since I can't link)
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Doh'! It's been a very long week my mind just isn't thinking lol... yeah I have a HTC Inspire to tether with cant believe I didn't think of that
looks like I'm gonna order mine from New Egg this week and toss in the kasper for a extra 10 bucks and use that 40 dollar gift card for a case
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also for 10 bucks more they toss in KASPERSKY lab Tablet Security
Im gonna buy a xoom I just cant decide on if I should get the wifi only or with the 3g ?
I thought it would be good to have just incase im in a area with no wifi
PS I was at Best Buy and there was a older lady playing with the tablets and got so frustrated and tossed her hands up in the air and said screw this I cant figure these things out
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And hopefully you offered to help her...;^ )
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And hopefully you offered to help her...;^ )
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lol I actually did , she couldn't get the keyboard to pop up, I dunno if she bought the xoom, but last year I helped a lady buy a Toshiba laptop and I dont even work at best buy
don't think the sales man was happy I talked her out of having the geek squad making her back up disks for a extra 75 bucks ... I thought that was ridiculous of best buy to rip people off like that so i wrote down the instructions for her on how to do it her self for nothing lol
i'm debating between the htc flyer and the n7, but my main concern with the n7 is all the issues that have been discussed and people having had to do 3 RMAs, etc. So is it still worth it?
I'm not sure what the defect rate of the current Nexus 7s are now, but as far as alternatives go, the HTC Flyer is completely outclassed with its single core processor. If you're considering alternatives, you should really look for something with a dual core processor, like the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7".
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I'm not sure what the defect rate of the current Nexus 7s are now, but as far as alternatives go, the HTC Flyer is completely outclassed with its single core processor. If you're considering alternatives, you should really look for something with a dual core processor, like the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7".
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well im looking to spend $250 or less, new or used. I'm not looking to compare the flyer and n7, as i already know it would be unfair. Not a fan of samsung tablets, and for the tablet i dont need the latest and greatest specs on it. I owned a nook color and was very happy with it, enjoyed my tf101 but the screen was a bit big for my tastes.
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well im looking to spend $250 or less, new or used. I'm not looking to compare the flyer and n7, as i already know it would be unfair. Not a fan of samsung tablets, and for the tablet i dont need the latest and greatest specs on it. I owned a nook color and was very happy with it, enjoyed my tf101 but the screen was a bit big for my tastes.
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If you liked the Nook Color, why not consider the Nook Tablet?
EDIT: I would also take people's complaints here about "defects" with a grain of salt. Yes, of course there are always going to be real manufacturing defects in a product line, but geeks tend to be more...particular than the average consumer. If you're really concerned about it go to a retail store and open it right there to make sure it's to your liking. At least that way too you can return the same day if needed.
Do it. Eventually you'll get a good one, hopefully on the first try.
You won't be dissapointed coming from those other devices. I'm still rather impressed having a transformer prime, just how well this thing does.
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If you liked the Nook Color, why not consider the Nook Tablet?
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That would be the wrong move. Sure it goes from a single to dual core processor. But your left with a tablet that is so locked down, and has practically no development. Vs. the color which was pretty cool in its day and has tons of mods. I was very dissapointed after I got a nook tab for my girlfriend.
There is a nook app, and a kindle app. There's no reason to have a nook or kindle after the release of the Nexus. IMO.
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If you liked the Nook Color, why not consider the Nook Tablet?
EDIT: I would also take people's complaints here about "defects" with a grain of salt. Yes, of course there are always going to be real manufacturing defects in a product line, but geeks tend to be more...particular than the average consumer. If you're really concerned about it go to a retail store and open it right there to make sure it's to your liking. At least that way too you can return the same day if needed.
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i kinda wanted something similar but with a front facing camera. yeah i guess i could go into a store
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Do it. Eventually you'll get a good one, hopefully on the first try.
You won't be dissapointed coming from those other devices. I'm still rather impressed having a transformer prime, just how well this thing does.
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yeah, im sure eventually i would get a good one but its (potentially) a lot of time/energy used.
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yeah, im sure eventually i would get a good one but its (potentially) a lot of time/energy used.
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I'll admit, I did get a replacement. But that replacement seems good so far. And from the play store, it wasn't really all that much of a hassle. If you can find it locally, it's even less hassle.
I just think in the 7" form factor, it would be silly to get anything else, if you don't like samsung. (me included)
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I'll admit, I did get a replacement. But that replacement seems good so far. And from the play store, it wasn't really all that much of a hassle. If you can find it locally, it's even less hassle.
I just think in the 7" form factor, it would be silly to get anything else, if you don't like samsung. (me included)
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i figured most people on xda have gotten at least 1 replacement, if not more, but thats good to hear the returns via the play store are relatively easy. i guess i'll have to compare final prices and see where i can get the best deal and think about it all.
received mine on monday, perfect condition. i cant complain about anything on the n7, even if i wanted too. for the price, nothing out there even comes close.
Coming from a single core 7 inch tablet, I can say that going with the Nexus 7 is the better choice.
The issues people have been having is due to their very meticulous nature.
Screen separation? There's a guide to fix that. You can send it to Asus to get it fixed, but you can spend 15 mins to fix it yourself.
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received mine on monday, perfect condition. i cant complain about anything on the n7, even if i wanted too. for the price, nothing out there even comes close.
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great to hear that, where did you buy from? I might buy from the google play store, cheapest price i can find without buying used.
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Coming from a single core 7 inch tablet, I can say that going with the Nexus 7 is the better choice.
The issues people have been having is due to their very meticulous nature.
Screen separation? There's a guide to fix that. You can send it to Asus to get it fixed, but you can spend 15 mins to fix it yourself.
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Well i happen to be one of those meticulous natured people, when i buy something i expect at the very least that it would be in the condition i paid money for. So once a few more people chime in i might just go ahead and buy from the play store, unless there's somewhere better/cheaper/faster. I checked local close by stores and they are all $250 not including tax yet...for comparison the play store total price is $231.85.
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great to hear that, where did you buy from? I might buy from the google play store, cheapest price i can find without buying used.
Well i happen to be one of those meticulous natured people, when i buy something i expect at the very least that it would be in the condition i paid money for. So once a few more people chime in i might just go ahead and buy from the play store, unless there's somewhere better/cheaper/faster. I checked local close by stores and they are all $250 not including tax yet...for comparison the play store total price is $231.85.
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from google play, 16gb version.
CTR01 said:
well im looking to spend $250 or less, new or used. I'm not looking to compare the flyer and n7, as i already know it would be unfair. Not a fan of samsung tablets, and for the tablet i dont need the latest and greatest specs on it. I owned a nook color and was very happy with it, enjoyed my tf101 but the screen was a bit big for my tastes.
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I think I read somewhere that the Galaxy Tab 2 7" is on sale this week at Walmart for $250 with a $50 gc, which brings the net price down to $200 if you want to count the gc as cash. Any reason why you don't like Samsung tablets? You can always load a custom rom if you don't like Touchwiz (which I don't).
i had an HTC Evo View 4G (Sprint's version of the HTC Flyer). My thoughts...
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i'm debating between the htc flyer and the n7, but my main concern with the n7 is all the issues that have been discussed and people having had to do 3 RMAs, etc. So is it still worth it?
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As the title states, I had the Sprint version of the HTC Flyer, and I liked it a lot. It was relatively snappy, running Honeycomb 3.2, and I had 32GB onboard and a 32GB microSD card in it, so I could carry around a fair amount of music and movies for airplane rides, etc.
I ended up leaving it on an airplane, and I was dejected for a full week before I decided to pre-order the Nexus 7. I got it through MacMall and it has been pretty solid so far. Very slight raised screen on the left side, but literally 1mm tops, and not noticeable. It's not spongy, but it does give if you press hard on the screen (which I never do). As for Jelly Bean 4.1, it is hands down superior to Honeycomb in every way shape and form, and you can definitely tell the difference in responsiveness with the N7. Loading apps like Netflix, Pulse, Kindle, etc. is at least five times faster on the N7 vs. the HTC, and it should be. Also, I paid $230 for the HTC when it was on sale last year, and while I don't regret that amount paid for it, the $249 (no tax + free shipping) for the N7 is a great deal, assuming you get one in good shape.
I would recommend buying from a local retail store so you can exchange and exchange until you get a good unit. It seems like there are a lot of faulty ones out there, but then again, this is a forum where people are going to go to gripe about their issues, not bask in the glory of their perfectly functioning devices.
Nexus 7, without a doubt.
AZImmortal said:
I think I read somewhere that the Galaxy Tab 2 7" is on sale this week at Walmart for $250 with a $50 gc, which brings the net price down to $200 if you want to count the gc as cash. Any reason why you don't like Samsung tablets? You can always load a custom rom if you don't like Touchwiz (which I don't).
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I'm just not a fan of Samsung stuff in general, I've tried their stuff and read reviews and there is always some issue that has didn't play in their favor, ie: looks, cost, etc...As my signature says I'm an HTC and ASUS fanboy, I guess part of it is I just like the underdogs, like how I like AMD instead of Intel.
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As the title states, I had the Sprint version of the HTC Flyer, and I liked it a lot. It was relatively snappy, running Honeycomb 3.2, and I had 32GB onboard and a 32GB microSD card in it, so I could carry around a fair amount of music and movies for airplane rides, etc.
I ended up leaving it on an airplane, and I was dejected for a full week before I decided to pre-order the Nexus 7. I got it through MacMall and it has been pretty solid so far. Very slight raised screen on the left side, but literally 1mm tops, and not noticeable. It's not spongy, but it does give if you press hard on the screen (which I never do). As for Jelly Bean 4.1, it is hands down superior to Honeycomb in every way shape and form, and you can definitely tell the difference in responsiveness with the N7. Loading apps like Netflix, Pulse, Kindle, etc. is at least five times faster on the N7 vs. the HTC, and it should be. Also, I paid $230 for the HTC when it was on sale last year, and while I don't regret that amount paid for it, the $249 (no tax + free shipping) for the N7 is a great deal, assuming you get one in good shape.
I would recommend buying from a local retail store so you can exchange and exchange until you get a good unit. It seems like there are a lot of faulty ones out there, but then again, this is a forum where people are going to go to gripe about their issues, not bask in the glory of their perfectly functioning devices.
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Thanks, for the detailed review/personal anecdote. I will wait a bit before buying since it can only get cheaper as time goes on (i hope).
Roland Deschain said:
Nexus 7, without a doubt.
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duely noted.
I haven't had a single defect on my tablet. Its beautiful, fast, and priced to change the game. I would not hesitate to buy this tablet, unless you have severe OCD, then I probably wouldn't buy any tablet or electronic device, as you will certainly find something to bother you if you look hard enough.
I also owned the HTC EVO View 4G (HTC Flyer) and sold it before buying the N7. It is lighter, slimmer, faster, better screen, and just all around better.
Don't get the Flyer unless you can get it for $100.
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I haven't had a single defect on my tablet. Its beautiful, fast, and priced to change the game. I would not hesitate to buy this tablet, unless you have severe OCD, then I probably wouldn't buy any tablet or electronic device, as you will certainly find something to bother you if you look hard enough.
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nice, good to hear and bet you were happy when you got it!
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I also owned the HTC EVO View 4G (HTC Flyer) and sold it before buying the N7. It is lighter, slimmer, faster, better screen, and just all around better.
Don't get the Flyer unless you can get it for $100.
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thanks for the input, i'll take this into consideration.
She wants an "ipad" but by that she means a tablet. I can NOT justify spending $500 on a 16GB ipad or $400 on a 16GB Nexus 10 for that matter. The Infinity is really the only high end one that I would jump on but that is way overkill for what she is doing (pics, vids, music, web browsing, kindle). So I started looking for "budget" tablets and it was down to this or the Xoom. Xoom is $259-$270 manufacturer refurbished but we all know the TF101 blows it out of the water and Newegg/Tiger are selling them for $229 refurbished right meow. I trust Newegg and they have an amazing RMA policy AND they have extended returns all the way through January 1st no questions asked and free shipping. Kind of hard to beat.
Newegg deal $229 free shipping
Very excited to be getting this. She is not crazy big into rooting or ROM'ing but I'll be on here looking around so if she has any complaints that can be addressed by a ROM or something (like cleanROM on the Infinity) it'll be GTG.
Any advice for me before I wrap it up and leave it under the tree for her to wonder wth it is? Obviously going to test it as it is a Refurb so I have time to send it back and get a new one if its bad but is there like... MUST have mods to do to it or should it work fine for her out of the box stock ICS? Again, she is not an Android nerd like I am and only cares that it works and is fast for what she is doing. She wont' be doing any gaming minus light stuff to shut up our 4 year old in the car lol.
Thanks XDA
Any reason why you aren't considering the nexus 7 for her?
Size and expandable memory. Like I said she is going to be using it for pics, videos, books and browsing. Size matters to my wife. Lol
why are you not considering tf300? it's Tegra 3 and you can get a brand new one for around $270. There were a couple of deals in the last week for that amount and i'm sure there will be more of these...
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I've had a TF101 from day 1 and just got a Nexus 7 to replace it. The TF101 has been good to me but wanted something faster, that could playback high profile encodes, easier to hold and under 400 bucks. I strongly considered the Nexus 10 but 16GB isn't cutting it anymore and I'm not paying 100 for another 16 gigs. I prefer non-metal construction so I love the nexus devices. The metal corners of the TF101 cut into your skin after a few mins. The no SD card was a big deal to me too but then I learned you can mount external storage if you just get a USB OTG adapter. For movies and music, not apps. I will miss the back camera most of all for video chatting, showing people things and my 1 year old doesn't exactly sit still. You will enjoy the TF101. If you want another used one let me know
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why are you not considering tf300? it's Tegra 3 and you can get a brand new one for around $270. There were a couple of deals in the last week for that amount and i'm sure there will be more of these...
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Would love to see where. I can always return the tf101 to newegg no questions asked and have time to get a tf300.
scottyd035ntknow said:
Would love to see where. I can always return the tf101 to newegg no questions asked and have time to get a tf300.
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Here's one on bestbuy. Its 280 with free shipping
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...er_Sale_Tablets_and_EReaders_100929&cp=1&lp=3
They are also offering a 25$ cashback saving on this but thats only for today
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Global-...er/pcmcat288300050007.c?id=pcmcat288300050007
Haven't ordered it. Just saw it somewhere and thought I'd post it.
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why are you not considering tf300? it's Tegra 3 and you can get a brand new one for around $270. There were a couple of deals in the last week for that amount and i'm sure there will be more of these...
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I agree here, return te TF101, while it is still a good tab, don't get me wrong, but getting her the 300 would actually be A LOT better in the long run. Less issues, JB out of the box, and only minimal mods to make it work fluidly. If she is a heavy texter, then I would suggest preinstalling a few apps like Tablet Talk (by one of our DEV'S here.) and maybe a few others that you think she might want to have on it.
But definately return the TF101 and get the 300. You're only a few bucks more into it, and in the long run it will be further supported. ASUS has already stated that they will provide KLP for the TF300 and up, where as the rest of us will be stopped at JB (for official ROM'S).
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I agree here, return te TF101, while it is still a good tab, don't get me wrong, but getting her the 300 would actually be A LOT better in the long run. Less issues, JB out of the box, and only minimal mods to make it work fluidly. If she is a heavy texter, then I would suggest preinstalling a few apps like Tablet Talk (by one of our DEV'S here.) and maybe a few others that you think she might want to have on it.
But definately return the TF101 and get the 300. You're only a few bucks more into it, and in the long run it will be further supported. ASUS has already stated that they will provide KLP for the TF300 and up, where as the rest of us will be stopped at JB (for official ROM'S).
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Oh yeah I had no idea the TF300 was available NEW for that price. And the nice thing about getting it at BB is I can get a 1 or 2 yr warranty on it. I think I could have with Newegg too but I like being able to take things to the store and talk to a person, even if it is the geeksquad...
Going to order the TF300 now and I'll RMA the 101 to Newegg when it comes in probably tomorrow.
Edit: Just ordered, picking up in store, $299 after tax, the TF101 REFURB was $246 after tax so an extra $53 for a MUCH better tablet. And factor in the $25 gift card and that makes it $274. I can use the $25 to get a present for my brother in law or something so with the gift card only $29 more to go to a new TF300 from refurbished TF101. You guys rock and THANK YOU SDFGHI for those links. Heck I almost bought two but I don't see myself using a tablet really that much. I think the screen on my smartphone is big enough and if not I got a lapdock for it for $50 last month that turns it into an 11" Android netbook. If I do get one for me I'll probably be a selfish ass and get the Infinity for me lol.
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Oh yeah I had no idea the TF300 was available NEW for that price. And the nice thing about getting it at BB is I can get a 1 or 2 yr warranty on it. I think I could have with Newegg too but I like being able to take things to the store and talk to a person, even if it is the geeksquad...
Going to order the TF300 now and I'll RMA the 101 to Newegg when it comes in probably tomorrow.
Edit: Just ordered, picking up in store, $299 after tax, the TF101 REFURB was $246 after tax so an extra $53 for a MUCH better tablet. And factor in the $25 gift card and that makes it $274. I can use the $25 to get a present for my brother in law or something so with the gift card only $29 more to go to a new TF300 from refurbished TF101. You guys rock and THANK YOU SDFGHI for those links. Heck I almost bought two but I don't see myself using a tablet really that much. I think the screen on my smartphone is big enough and if not I got a lapdock for it for $50 last month that turns it into an 11" Android netbook. If I do get one for me I'll probably be a selfish ass and get the Infinity for me lol.
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You are quite welcome from my end. At least we can see that you thought it through clearly and decided that a LITTLE more for NEW was better then a little less for refurbished. Correct buying it at BB you can get the extended warranty, get the ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE ALSO. Found that out with my wife's DSLR, strap holder broke, letting the camera fall from her neck and hit the iced over concrete. It looked like that scene from Terminator 2 when the liquid metal terminator got froze then shot and exploded.
Sadly (not really) they no longer made or had available the same camera I had initially bought my wife, so they had to *sigh* upgrade her to the next one up. Now if I buy something from them I make sure to get the max extended warranty and the accidental damage coverage.
Also as a side note, just root it before she even opens it. Set it up for side loading and all all ready.
I might root it... I dunno its all nice in the shrinkwrap right now and I'd like her to open something brand new. Then again I'd probably be better off checking it... And damn I completely spaced my own advice on getting the protection plan. Probably should gander on back and pick it up for the tablet. Either way she's going to flip **** because she says she doesn't really want anything for xmas but I KNOW she is dying for a tablet.
I know there had been a couple of these threads so my apologies ahead of time. I an looking to buy my son a tablet for the holidays. In my research I was drawn to this one for its stock experience, specs, expandable storage, stylus, and gaming. Problem I am having is all the threads taking about cracks and poor WiFi. The tablet will almost exclusively be used in my house and mainly in the room with the router. My son is only 7 so he is not ready for some of the more intense games but I like the idea that he can grow with this and that the specs will carry over for a while. My plan would be to use my ouya controller at first then work my way to buying the nvidia controller if he is playing enough on it to warrant
I can get him a nexus 7 for $120 less or a galaxy tab 8.4 pro for $50 less but both have their shortcomings. I guess my question is are the complaints a vocal minority or is this tablet a great idea not truly realized? Thanks in advance for any thoughts
It's true the wifi is not top notch, but it works fine anyway. It simply does not have the best range it could possibly have. It's not a dealbreaker for me.
Cracked edges - no problems here, and I think this is a minority problem.
Overall I am pleased with the tablet. The battery life is OK. I love the stylus and the fact that I can stream games from my PC. Just the other day I was playing FIFA 14 from my PC with an XBOX 360 PC controller connected with an USB OTG cable.
My advice: go for it. The tablet is solid.
cheers
-flak
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I know there had been a couple of these threads so my apologies ahead of time. I an looking to buy my son a tablet for the holidays. In my research I was drawn to this one for its stock experience, specs, expandable storage, stylus, and gaming. Problem I am having is all the threads taking about cracks and poor WiFi. The tablet will almost exclusively be used in my house and mainly in the room with the router. My son is only 7 so he is not ready for some of the more intense games but I like the idea that he can grow with this and that the specs will carry over for a while. My plan would be to use my ouya controller at first then work my way to buying the nvidia controller if he is playing enough on it to warrant
I can get him a nexus 7 for $120 less or a galaxy tab 8.4 pro for $50 less but both have their shortcomings. I guess my question is are the complaints a vocal minority or is this tablet a great idea not truly realized? Thanks in advance for any thoughts
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I have just recently purchased the Shield and this was a unit that was a RMA replacement that the seller got when he sent his back because of the issue with cracks. I have been completely happy with the unit thus far and the fact that it is near stock is a huge benefit. I also have a Nexus 7 (2012) that my daughter uses and while it works well for her (8 years old) it doesn't have quickness that the Nvidia does. As for WiFi I have had no issues at all with mine, I know others here have but I have not.
I also have a couple of Samsung Galaxy Tab 3's in the house and they are garbage, I won't buy another Samsung product as I have had nothing but trouble with them.
Also in the coming weeks if you keep a close eye on Craigslist you can probably find someone selling a near new Nvidia as the lemmings part with them to go get the new Nexus 9 or the latest piece from Apple. That's what I did and saved quite a bit off retail.
MG
I hear you, I am trying to low ball someone on Craigslist who says he just picked up an I pad air. Don't think he is biting but it's worth a shot.
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I know there had been a couple of these threads so my apologies ahead of time. I an looking to buy my son a tablet for the holidays. In my research I was drawn to this one for its stock experience, specs, expandable storage, stylus, and gaming. Problem I am having is all the threads taking about cracks and poor WiFi. The tablet will almost exclusively be used in my house and mainly in the room with the router. My son is only 7 so he is not ready for some of the more intense games but I like the idea that he can grow with this and that the specs will carry over for a while. My plan would be to use my ouya controller at first then work my way to buying the nvidia controller if he is playing enough on it to warrant
I can get him a nexus 7 for $120 less or a galaxy tab 8.4 pro for $50 less but both have their shortcomings. I guess my question is are the complaints a vocal minority or is this tablet a great idea not truly realized? Thanks in advance for any thoughts
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I just got mine (LTE model) last night and seriously, I have never seen a tablet fly like this one does! It is beautiful, feels great in the hand, WIFI and LTE work great and it is just a pleasure to use. I'm not a serious gamer but really wanted it for media, art-making and everything else I can do with a fast and sleek android tablet, including some light gaming. I am not at all disappointed.
Rooting with towelroot was super simple and didn't require unlocking. It is sweeeet!
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I hear you, I am trying to low ball someone on Craigslist who says he just picked up an I pad air. Don't think he is biting but it's worth a shot.
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Hope he sells to you and has it has underlying issues. Can't stand people like you on craigslist.
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demo23019 said:
Hope he sells to you and has it has underlying issues. Can't stand people like you on craigslist.
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Calm down he was asking for 325 for a bundle but I dont want half of it. I offered 250 he can take it or leave it. If no one else offers anything he can choose if it is worth it to him. I sell a ton on Craigslist and can make my own decisions on if I like an offer or not.
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I hear you, I am trying to low ball someone on Craigslist who says he just picked up an I pad air. Don't think he is biting but it's worth a shot.
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Well folks can criticize low balling if they like but in my case I went low on a WiFi model and was very nice and respectful in my language when I made it. He politely turned me down but I was patient and after I noticed it was still listed (and re-listed) two weeks later I contacted him again and restated my offer with a kind note that "with Apple and Google releasing new devices it may be difficult to move a lesser known device like this at the price you're asking." He emailed me back within minutes asking if I could come up $20 and he'd throw in the 64GB MicroSD he bought for it. I kindly agreed since I was going to pay at least $30 for one on Amazon anyway.
My point is there is nothing wrong with low balling if you are respectful about it. If the person refuses and gets more for their device then great, many times they won't but if you're a d*ck they won't even take a low ball offer seriously.
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As with any transaction there is a worth to the purchaser. I only said my offer was low ball because I would be getting the tablet, case, controller, and 32gb SD for $325 which is a great value retail. I did not intend on buying the remote, don't want the nvidia case, and have an SD. So to me I am buying a used tablet for the same price as retail but getting allot more in the end. I run the risk of the potential that the unit has issues and the struggle of getting nvidia to make good not being the original purchaser.