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Hey guys, i ordered two HDMI cables from this guy: http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-HDMI-Male-To-HDMI-1-4-Cable-for-Sprint-HTC-Evo-4G_W0QQitemZ320547178537QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
i plugged them up and tried to run some Futurama from my phone to my TV. plugging in the HDMI i get the notification in the status bar, but as soon as i hit play on a video the sound plays on the TV, but i get no video and my phone locks up. the only way i regain control is by pulling the battery and restarting.
what am i missing??
This happens to me as well. Happened occasionally w/ first OTA and now using CM6 nightlies as well.
i tried it three times in a row. same result every time. could it be something wrong with the OMJ 2.2 froyo rom i'm running?
What format is your futurama encoded in?
it's an MP4 that i encoded with HandBrake to the EVO's specs
What Brand/Model TV do you have Also If your using Netarchy's kernel for 2.2 HDMI out is broken till HTC releases the Source for 2.2
Doh! thats it then. i'm running the netarchy kernel. damnit. oh well. i'll keep chillin' until a fix comes out. thanks!!
You should try the cable on a stock kernel as well. I ordered a cable from ebay as well and it froze my phone. Bought a molex cable and it works fine. There was a bad batch of the gold plated ones I hear, I guess you get what you paid for lol.
It seems Molex is the only manufacturer of these Micro HDMI cables that is legit. I wouldn't buy one unless it's made by them.
the two i got work just fine. no issues at all
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
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So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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Hi all,
Whilst chilling with a friend he showed me a new gadget he'd purchased.
It was a wireless HDMI solution that used USB.
The USB stick, broadcasted the HDMI to a reciever, which in-turn sat by the TV with an ACTUAL HDMI cable plugged into the TV.
My first though was, would this work for my nexus? Putting the USB into the OTG cable?
I thought the only issue maybe drivers?
The device:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Q-Waves-Wireless-USB-HDMI-Extender/dp/B002RL9F38
Fair expensive on Amazon, but my friend picked one up at £40.
Is this a viable solution?
Delete please.
At best it would be usable for slideshows / presentations.
From my understanding there is insufficient bandwidth via USB2 to smoothly stream video at anything other than very low resolution.
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At best it would be usable for slideshows / presentations.
From my understanding there is insufficient bandwidth via USB2 to smoothly stream video at anything other than very low resolution.
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Yeah, I may just take my Nexus up to the friends, get it all connected and see what happens.
Would any1 be interested in me testing it?
USB 2.0 is plenty fast enough for a compressed 1080p HD video stream. It is plenty fast for several of them simultaneously, frankly.
I suspect that the device uses a windows driver plus a PC application program... neither of which the N7 will have.
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USB 2.0 is plenty fast enough for a compressed 1080p HD video stream. It is plenty fast for several of them simultaneously, frankly.
I suspect that the device uses a windows driver plus a PC application program... neither of which the N7 will have.
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That was my first thought, but then I started blaggin myself saying, well if mice/keyboards/USB Sticks etc all work, why not this little USB?
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At best it would be usable for slideshows / presentations.
From my understanding there is insufficient bandwidth via USB2 to smoothly stream video at anything other than very low resolution.
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Usb 2 has like a max of 2 gigabits. More than enough for 720 from what I can guess.
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So does any1 think the Nexus would work with this device?
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Usb 2 has like a max of 2 gigabits. More than enough for 720 from what I can guess.
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USB 2.0 has a max speed of 480 Megabits/s.
http://lockergnome.net/questions/42078/usb-1-0-2-0-and-3-0-whats-the-difference
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USB 2.0 has a max speed of 480 Megabits/s.
http://lockergnome.net/questions/42078/usb-1-0-2-0-and-3-0-whats-the-difference
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No offence, I don't give a crap about the speed of USB, nor whether it can stream in "HD" or not. All I want to know is if this would work with the N7.
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No offence, I don't give a crap about the speed of USB, nor whether it can stream in "HD" or not. All I want to know is if this would work with the N7.
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Then try it and let us know. I highly doubt it would work though. If video signals can be sent over the micro USB port, then ASUS would've just said the N7 supports MHL. Since MHL isn't supported, I doubt the video signals can be sent over the wire.
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Dunno about this device, but I think USB s simply not fast enough for quality video. I had a Lenovo notebook with USB "docking" which was attached through USB. Along with external keyboard and mouse it also transfered video to external monitor. And there was visible difference then when using normal VGA/DVI. It kinda worked, but was annoying because it had problems with speed. So because of that experience I think USB is not viable solution for video. And I'm talking about displaying normal DESKTOP not video! With video it must be even worse.
Hey I don't know if it would work or not but I'm very interested in you testing it.
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Then try it and let us know. I highly doubt it would work though. If video signals can be sent over the micro USB port, then ASUS would've just said the N7 supports MHL. Since MHL isn't supported, I doubt the video signals can be sent over the wire.
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It's a USB device. If it has driver support, it'll work. There are USB 'video cards' that support "HD" resolutions. The trick is device support.
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Just a spit-ball idea....what I use to stream content...the HTC media link works pretty well as a media streamer when it's plugged into your TV
Ima try this out and let you all know next time I'm around there I'll take my nexus !
First of all, I've read the prior threads, but my question is contextual, so please bear with me.
I currently have an Acer 500 which I use for web, email, RSS on a daily basis. On trips the HDMI-out is a lifesaver in the evening at the hotel, as anyone with kids will attest to.
In the spirit of Father's Day the Boss has authorized an upgrade, handing the A500 down to my kids for homework use.
I understand there are 2 HDMI issues with the N10:
- Scaling
(fixed in Videos and MXPlayer, and possibly with newly discovered code/app)
- Compatibility
no sound via HDMI
no video with certain TVs
I don't care about scaling, and can live with letterboxed video.
Just how bad are the TV compatibility issues, really? I know HDCP can wreak havoc between devices, but both the Acer and SGIII have worked well with every TV I've tried them with; I have decent cables/adapters. Is the problem a connector issue, or is there an inherent issue with the N10 HDMI pathway hardware? If' it's just the plug, I can return it until I get one that works. If it's the intrinsic hardware, this would be a show stopper for me.
Again, I know the prior threads on this issue, but I'm trying to gauge if this is an unfixable issue for most people.
TIA.
From what I've heard and seen, compatibility with older Panasonic-based TV's (VIERA for example) might be somewhat bad. The VIERA TV I have has working video, but no audio. Some no-name HDMI TV my friend has (can't think of the actual name) works fine for both video and audio.
Not sure if there's any general rule or anything that determines compatibility though, or how other devices handle TV's...
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- Compatibility
no sound via HDMI
no video with certain TVs
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HDMI with video and audio work perfectly fine to most things, the problem is not that HDMI simply doesnt work but rather that certain companies do not conform to all standards properly and this causes compatibility issues. As Espionage said, Panasonic's are the big one with no audio, and Sony Bravia's also tend to have issues. I use my Nexus 10 to go into my Onkyo receiver which then passes video on to my Panasonic plasma and audio goes to my speakers. It works perfect except for the obvious scaling issue because it is not trying to send a 1080p signal. That is easy enough to live with or you can do the workaround to make it perfect if you really care that much.
The thing that sucks though is just that hotels have all sorts of TV brands, so compatibility will just be hit and miss depending on which models of TV they choose to have.
Most of the time , hdmi doesnt have sound .
Many incompatibility tv s .
I personally have a pan 30gt ... No sound .
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No problems at all using it with my LG TV.
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When you say that the video is fixed in MXPlayer, where did you see/read this? I would be interested to know because I heard it was coming but for me the scaling is not yet fixed.
mageus said:
First of all, I've read the prior threads, but my question is contextual, so please bear with me.
I currently have an Acer 500 which I use for web, email, RSS on a daily basis. On trips the HDMI-out is a lifesaver in the evening at the hotel, as anyone with kids will attest to.
In the spirit of Father's Day the Boss has authorized an upgrade, handing the A500 down to my kids for homework use.
I understand there are 2 HDMI issues with the N10:
- Scaling
(fixed in Videos and MXPlayer, and possibly with newly discovered code/app)
- Compatibility
no sound via HDMI
no video with certain TVs
I don't care about scaling, and can live with letterboxed video.
Just how bad are the TV compatibility issues, really? I know HDCP can wreak havoc between devices, but both the Acer and SGIII have worked well with every TV I've tried them with; I have decent cables/adapters. Is the problem a connector issue, or is there an inherent issue with the N10 HDMI pathway hardware? If' it's just the plug, I can return it until I get one that works. If it's the intrinsic hardware, this would be a show stopper for me.
Again, I know the prior threads on this issue, but I'm trying to gauge if this is an unfixable issue for most people.
TIA.
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From what I've heard and seen, compatibility with older Panasonic-based TV's (VIERA for example) might be somewhat bad. The VIERA TV I have has working video, but no audio. Some no-name HDMI TV my friend has (can't think of the actual name) works fine for both video and audio.
Not sure if there's any general rule or anything that determines compatibility though, or how other devices handle TV's...
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I have a Panasonic and no issues with video or sound using the N10 over HDMI. FWIW.
Bought the '10, loving it. HDMI works fine on both Sammy's at home.
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Bought the '10, loving it. HDMI works fine on both Sammy's at home.
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and what is the price ? im looking for something in good price i found some from connection lab and try to find out if its really good
Guys, Can anyone confirm if Nexus 10 needs to charging for the HDMI out to work? My nexus 10 doesn't output via HDMI if its not connected to power.
I get no sound through my Viera too, it's pretty damn annoying actually. Regardless of their HDMI 'compatibility restrictions' or whatever, all other devices work correctly with it including my Galaxy S3 and a whole assortment of cameras, PC's and gaming consoles. Hoping for a fix in 4.3.
connectionlab is good!
So far so good. Couple of days ago I asked you about connectionlab brand, but since I have no responses I thought I'll give a chance and bought ConnectionLAB HDC-10 Premium 10m HDMI CABLE. Is beautiful!
I have to say that I'm really pleased with my new baby. Seriously, you get a good quality for a good price. My friend bought a cheap hdmi cable and sait it broke down into 2 after 15 minutes! But this one from connectionlab seems like a good choice
Always wanted a Android Mini PC to use on my living room TV for quick streaming, browsing and possibly for XBMC. With my interst growing and XBMC getting very stable on Android I went for the Tronsmart MK908. I assumed based solely on the model number that it was a better MK808... still not sure it isn't, but anyway.
First thing I did was instal Finless 1.5. Looks great on my 60" Visio in 1080p. Lodaded a decent build of XBMC but the damn little thing overheats and shuts off. Lasts about 10-15 minutes tops once XBMC is running. I've got it plugged in to the TV's USB port for power.
I con't get a bluetooth keyboard to work with it. It pairs but the keys do nothing. (Kensington Slimblade Bluetooth model)
Running in 720p doesn't help with overheating. This thing gets HOTT. Were my expectations too high for this little device?
It feels like more of a experiment or tinkerers toy. I've seen others gut it and add bulging heatsinks, adding fans, changing the enclosure (liek a cigar box with fans etc) and to me these changes completely defeat the purpose of a small hdmi dongle sized android pc and makes the clunky hard to transport.
Thoughts?
Remember these things are built to a price. But you should still expect a decent level of functionality. I suggest under clocking it and put fans on it in a different case. A case of buyer beware if there are a lot of devices like this. Research and gather others opinions on these devices prior to purchase...
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You should try a different power supply. Received wisdom is that cheap ones that come with sticks often cause freeze or shutdown because of the dynamic current load. Use a name-brand one with 1.5 amp capacity or more if you can, but even a 1 amp phone charger will probably be more stable than the included charger.
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You should try a different power supply. Received wisdom is that cheap ones that come with sticks often cause freeze or shutdown because of the dynamic current load. Use a name-brand one with 1.5 amp capacity or more if you can, but even a 1 amp phone charger will probably be more stable than the included charger.
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You are right man the only problem that i see here too is the power supply, a usb port on the tv usually outputs only 0.5 amp while the minimum for this quad core is 2 amp. It might work with a good 1 amp power supply but only for main tasks but if you want to see movies in full hd or play games you'll need a lot more than that.
Agreed. Use the included power supply. It's packaged for a reason.
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Agreed. Use the included power supply. It's packaged for a reason.
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actually most chinese minipc sells with extremely underpowered power supplies, they write "2A" or such on them but if you test them they really are just 0.5a or 0.75a
as for tv you shoud check your tv manual, some have low power usb ports that are rated only for usb memory sticks, others have powered usb ports rated for unpowered usb hd.
only the latter kind can juice a minipc - sometimes TV have more than one usb port but only one is hd-rated.
Yeah, I suggest throwing away the included supply. One thing recommended on Freaktab is to buy a PSVita charger (1.5a, ~$10 on Amazon). You have to cut out a bit of plastic for regular USB cables to fit. I got one recently and have had no freezes or reboots since on my mk808b.
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actually most chinese minipc sells with extremely underpowered power supplies, they write "2A" or such on them but if you test them they really are just 0.5a or 0.75a
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Not starting a war here however that's very true true & customers must be aware of this. However I must of been one of the lucky ones as my adapter is pushing 2Amps at 5.1V +/-.5...
Hell I dished out almost a bill for this device the least we can all receive is hardware that's correct from our supplier..
Agreed towards the powered USB within tvs.. Highest Amp rating I seen was on a Samsung model & that was only pushing 1.34Amps.. Nor was it constant as the Amp readings would fluctuate during input presses via remote or on the telly itself via hard key.
Power blocks are key & this device needs every little bit of at least 1.5Amps & even at times that's not enough..
I had a similar issue with my 908. I didn't use the one that came with it because the metal contact on the usb port looked was rusted.
Instead I tried the adapter for my Nexus 4, which is supposed to be a 5v 1a / 2a variable but it froze playing Captain America on Netflix.
I then tried it with my old Nexus 7 [Tegra 3] adapter which is a 5v 2a and it worked perfectly - played the entire movie, no issues (at 1920x1080p @ 60fps). In essence, I do think that whoever buys this stick needs to pick up a 5a 2a solid - no variable chargers. Also, I'd highly recommend not bothering with the wifi on it. Grab a 10/100 or 10/100/1000 ethernet stick and use that.
Good Luck.
xbmc overheating
I have read that XBMC has no hardware acceleration on those RK... processors. You need to use alternative video player like MX Player or BS Player.
latest nightles have libstagefrigt hw accel integrated and its working quite good on rockchip devices.
lewy20041 said:
latest nightles have libstagefrigt hw accel integrated and its working quite good on rockchip devices.
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Got a link?
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/nightlies/android/
What were ur initial expectations btw?
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What were ur initial expectations btw?
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My bad didnt get the first page. We used to sell something with a unit with the same specs they are right your power source is not providing enough juice. Especially ur using a tv usb that usually have 500mA. Try getting a usb charger thats got at least 2A. And android sticks nirmally runs hot though.
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latest nightles have libstagefrigt hw accel integrated and its working quite good on rockchip devices.
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I've tried these nightly xbmc versions months before. It is hw accelerated, because, instead of xbmc' it uses mx player for video playing.
So, it means, you can use mx player directly, you get the same reaults.
But i prefer vondershare player. But it has problems with subtitles.
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The nightlies didn't have libsf very many months ago, though libsf alphas were in the nightly directory. Now all nightlies have libsf support.
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Power Supply/Charger
People who posted "Get a better power supply/charger", which 2amp charger would be ideal?
All main issues (reboot and/or shutdown) are related to the power supply, it's a matter of fact the shipped power adapter sucks.
Some people advised to get the Ipad one, any 2/2.4A one will do the job: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item3f264c673d