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Data sessions - how to keep them open

Hi,
I don't have a data plan and I pay by data sessions. Each session is up to 100kb but when I look at my bill I get loads of sessions with just a few bytes even within the short time of a minute. I assume the G1 opens a session and closes it when no data is transferred to safe power. The network then interprets this as a new connection and doesn't "fil up" the last 100kb session. This sucks as I waste quite a bit of money and I'm currently looking for a way to avoid this. Apparently running a messenger in the background doesn't do the trick. Any other suggestions?

Certian apps and widget as well as the market run in the backround and use data. Go to settings then data synchronization and un check the 1st box that says backround data that might help a bit

Thanks, I didn't mention one thing: I usually deactivate my data connection (APNdroid) when I don't need it.But when I do I get this odd behaviour for example when I'm just browsing the web.(other stuff in the background deactivated)

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razzledazle said:
Stop being cheap and pay $24.99 for a data plan dumb*ss. Why would you buy the ferrari and can't afford the gas. How dumb is that
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cut that out. thats no way to talk to a fellow xda member. u might wanna edit that b4 a mod sees that becuase you could get banned for that.

Uninstall all apps and don't synchronize data. That would be your best bet, but even at that I think it is going to still have several short data sessions. You could also disable data via apn's and only enable them when you are using the phone for data.
I would highly suggest getting a data plan however. My last pda phone I didn't have a data plan and only used wifi. It was such a hassle and I would have been better off with just a basic phone than spending so much time to avoid data charges.

@razzledazle, ... it wasn't very helpful. Anyway I'm not in the US so I wouldn't get this offer anyway.
The problem I'm having is that even though I only activate the data connection when I use it, the sessions are very short and I still end up paying much more than I should. I'd like to find a way to keep the session alive till I deactivate 3g again.

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Still didn't find a solution myself. On a nokia, keeping the browser open does the job and keeps the session alive... but on the G1 it doesn't.

Running all your data through a VPN should do it, that way you are using a single connection that remains open.

Download droid wall from this forum and use the whitelist mode it might help you out a bit as only things you want will open a connection

[Q] Data Usage per month

Hi Guys,
I am wondering what kinda data usage you can expect from the DZ per month. I plan to use it for occasional web browsing, weaher updates, email and calendar sync.
I would like to download and use different apps - but concerned do a normal app always need to be connected to the internet for it to run or does it run locally and only connects if it needs to download any data?
Any thoughts will be very helpful.
Thanks.

Audette said:
I would like to download and use different apps - but concerned do a normal app always need to be connected to the internet for it to run or does it run locally and only connects if it needs to download any data?
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Apps will only access the Internet if/when they need to. So for a standalone app, that might be never.
So no, normally apps don't need to be connected to the Internet, unless that's part of their function (e.g. an online banking app that only works via the Internet to access your bank's servers etc).

Maybe I'm a little offtopic: is there any app that will show daily and monthly data usage for each application, but only data from the mobile network (no WiFi/USB)? It would be useful to know how much each app is using. With WM, I had SPB Wireless Monitor for that - so something similar would be perfect.

Audette: it's always better to get a data plan for a smartphone. Mostly much cheaper then pay-as-you-used.
darthmelk: try Check out "3G Watchdog" in the market.

I use 3G Watchdog, but it doesn't show data usage for each application (or I don't know how to display that?). That's the only thing it's missing.

There is one app that showed individual data usage, however this app itself was a massive drain on the phones CPU and battery so I would not advice using it.
In any event I forgot what it was called
I use about 500mb a month mobile data, but I use wifi whenever I can.

Try TrafficInfo or TrafficStats. They do show per application usage (sent/recieved). I just installed them yesterday and the TrafficInfo seems a bit nicer to me.
I am looking for an application that could show which application is currently downloading/uploading real time, something like netlimiter on the PC.

At traffic stats is what I was on about, watch out with these apps, by their very nature they will be a big drain on resources (and therefore battery life).

I had a quick try of Traffic Info. Maybe I was missing something, but this just seems to show Internet usage per application.
The problem is, it doesn't seem to distinguish between Internet usage via my phone carrier connection (which I'm more concerned about) and Internet usage via wireless (which I'm not concerned about).
Can anyone recommend an app which splits the two ? I would have thought that if something access the information at the correct level then it could differentiate.

I am using Network traffic counter (NetCounter) and quite satisfied. It does not track usage per application (and I don't really care...), but fully separate cell & wifi.
So far reached 735 MB on cell and 3 GB on wifi since got the phone on 9th November.

adrungil said:
I am using Network traffic counter (NetCounter) and quite satisfied. It does not track usage per application (and I don't really care...), but fully separate cell & wifi.
So far reached 735 MB on cell and 3 GB on wifi since got the phone on 9th November.
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Thanks, that sounds like what I'm after, I'll give it a try.

[Q] Help—Phone using large amounts of data

I got a text from o2 on Sunday saying I'd used 80% of my data allowance—a huge amount since Tuesday!
I've disbaled data for now while I try and figure out what's gone wrong.
I checked the stats on the phone under network usage and it seems that 'Media' has been using the most (nothing else comes close). This has DRM Protected Content Storage, Download Manager, and Media Storage in the package.
I've been on the same ROM for ages (Rod's MIUI) and haven't installed any news apps recently…
Anyone have this problem before or know what's gone wrong??

Have you been using Pandora or another online radio app? Streaming movies?
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Use Network Counter by mapeapps to get an idea of what is using data...

I use Google Listen Alot by the end of the month I used 2 GB minimum of data

SPB Mobile Manager will tell you which apps are download/uploading and how much

I've got an app called Monitor (it came with the ROM) that lists the apps and what they've used. Download Manager is listed as having used it all.
I haven't been streaming anything unusual no.
Does anyone know what Download Manager would be used by? I've disbaled it's 3G access and turned my data back on, I'll see how things go...

josemedina1983 said:
I use Google Listen Alot by the end of the month I used 2 GB minimum of data
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For me, a single 3 hour podcast ( I <3 listen) is 90+ meg. Add a little bit of twitter and facebook into the mix, 2G is easy to break in one billing cycle.

This is just silly now. I've disabled Download Manager with firewall but it's still using data, apps must be using it and my monitor isn't logging it as the app but that process.
I've had data turned off all day apart from a couple of times to check mail but I've just checked and I've somehow used over 50MB!
Can anyone help?

I think I've figured out what's happened if anyone is interested.
I've had the Android update alert popping up for ages now but I was waiting for Rod to update his ROM before I installed a new one. It's gone now so I'm guessing it's been trying to download the android update in the backgroud whenever I've had a signal.
Serves me right to not updating to a ROM that gets rid of the update alert I guess.
This is gonna be a fun month with no data allowance…

Are O2 that stringent about their data caps or are you a frequent abuser? It pisses me off no end that caps are even in place, especially on 'unlimited' plans, but when they get all pedantic it makes me rage!
FWIW, Vodafone have always been good to me if you're ever thinking of switching. And i abuse the hell out of my data allowance

I've used the full 500MB so I've turned data off, rather not face a large bill...

I've updated ROM from Rod's 2.5 to 2.9 as it had apparently removed the updater. I did this today, in the last few hours Media Storage has used 265MB (on wifi as I still have 3g disabled) even though I've been doing nothing.
Anybody have any clues as to what's going on? I've tried googling with no luck. I did see a couple of similar sounding things and mention of a patch to disable OTA updates... anybody know anything about it?

[Q] Constant 3G traffic

Hello,
Its driving me nuts and I can't find the answer anywhere.
I bought an Ideos X5 and I have been trying every ROM i can get my hands on.
In all of em I find the same issue that I cannot resolve.
The phone is downloading and uploading stuff ALL the time. I do mean all the time.
If Data is enabled then the 3G, or H is up there in the staus connecting all the time.
Recently I tried MIUI and it comes with a firewall which I used to block every app i have but with no result. its still there.
I thought it could be because of the GPS being aided but I disabled that too.
Any idea? My data plan is being consumed by god knows what and its happening in every ROM available.

swayjd said:
Hello,
Its driving me nuts and I can't find the answer anywhere.
I bought an Ideos X5 and I have been trying every ROM i can get my hands on.
In all of em I find the same issue that I cannot resolve.
The phone is downloading and uploading stuff ALL the time. I do mean all the time.
If Data is enabled then the 3G, or H is up there in the staus connecting all the time.
Recently I tried MIUI and it comes with a firewall which I used to block every app i have but with no result. its still there.
I thought it could be because of the GPS being aided but I disabled that too.
Any idea? My data plan is being consumed by god knows what and its happening in every ROM available.
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The fact that the icon is present at the top doesn't mean that it's doing traffic. That is just like the wifi icon, to let you know that you have 3G/HSDPA connection established. If you don't have any applications like sync, email, mms, browsing, games that go online etc, than your data consumption should be something like 100kbytes/day. I've got a 500 mb plan and with emails on and applications downloaded I never go over 70-80mb the whole month... So, I believe that whatever application you've installed on the phone, that is consuming your data plan.
BTW, this is a smartphone, which was designed to stay online...so you may have to look into upgrading the data plan.

Try droidwall at market. It can block selective app connect internet.

katu2006 said:
The fact that the icon is present at the top doesn't mean that it's doing traffic. That is just like the wifi icon, to let you know that you have 3G/HSDPA connection established. If you don't have any applications like sync, email, mms, browsing, games that go online etc, than your data consumption should be something like 100kbytes/day. I've got a 500 mb plan and with emails on and applications downloaded I never go over 70-80mb the whole month... So, I believe that whatever application you've installed on the phone, that is consuming your data plan.
BTW, this is a smartphone, which was designed to stay online...so you may have to look into upgrading the data plan.
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oh.... I thought that the fact that it was there it meant that it was connecting.
that clears it up then! i installed 3g whatchdog in the meanwhile though just to be safe!
edit, but wait a second, my friends at work have androids and its not always up there. the symbol I mean.

Samsung s7 edge tmobile music freedom question

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask this but the free unlimitedmusic streaming seems to be counting against my high speed data. I checked my tmobile app and pandora shows 6mb of data used today(1st day of billing cycle) and my phone shows 56mb of data used today by Pandora.
I am new to tmobile so wondering if I am missing something here? Are the ad's being counted against my LTE data bucket? Thanks!

interesting question....I'm sure you could call T-Mobile support and ask them to track your data usage

jc83 said:
Not sure if this is the correct place to ask this but the free unlimitedmusic streaming seems to be counting against my high speed data. I checked my tmobile app and pandora shows 6mb of data used today(1st day of billing cycle) and my phone shows 56mb of data used today by Pandora.
I am new to tmobile so wondering if I am missing something here? Are the ad's being counted against my LTE data bucket? Thanks!
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It depends what plan you are on. I have the unlimited txt talk and 1gb lte and stream music everyday with soundcloud, beatport, and youtube. I have had no issues with these. Normally tmobile sends you a txt when you are close to your limit.
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The built in meter doesn't differentiate the data usage. Also advertising and anything not streaming related like album art, and lyrics do count against your data albeit should only be like 50MB a month depending how often you leave it on.
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I am going to keep monitoring it and see what it is towards the end of the month. Right now Samsung milk music is showing 20mb used on my phone usage screen 2nd day billing cycle and tmobile app has 15mb....there is no way 15mb could be from album art ads etc etc right?
Whats weird is I used Pandora mainly and my phone reads 60mb and yesterday tmobile app showed 5mb and today it isn't even on list.

You'd be surprised how. You are looking at them individually and not collectively. All that stuff isn't downloaded one at a time, but collectively.
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