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Hey all, I would like to get an idea of the average/normal battery life you are all getting with the TMobile MyTouch 4G. I'm originally a proud owner of an HD2 & also own a Droid Incredible, but a family member has this new Tmobile phone & they are not having the best experience
Basically, Battery is running out, literally from 100% to 0% in approximately only 5-7 hours. What kind of use? Almost none! 3G Data On; GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth all Off. No navigation. Less than 3 hours talk-time during that time. Display on Automatic brightness, with timeout at 15 sec.
She is at work during most of this time so no heavy data usage, & I know so because she's on the 200MB plan & "MyAccount" reflects light data use.
Phone is completely Stock (no overclock, stock kernel, not rooted, etc).
So is this terrible battery life normal? Or would you all say there is something off with this particular phone?
There is a task manager installed set to kill unnecessary apps on screen off. I've gone over all settings at least 3 times. Still dies in less than 7 hours. I dont get it. So that's most of the info, anything else I forgot to clarify let me know!
Thanks!
If you turn off the mobile network and stop all synching if you don't need it the phone should last you a very long time, the data connection saps up a lot of battery.
First of all, UNINSTALL your app killer. It does more harm than good.
Second, it would be good to root your phone, and uninstall unnecessary apps. (amazon mp3, games, etc etc... all the bloatware.)
Third, install setCPU from market and set up profiles as recommended on XDA. (search)
Fourth, set USB debugging ON, stop all sync incl background data, display at auto brightness.
YOU have to remember that battery life really depends on usage, and LOCATION.
During a work week, I recharge battery before I go to bed and unplug @ 100%.
I usually get one day of battery during work inside a building with E (not H) so not so strong signal. I make ~30 min total call time with ~1 hours of web browsing, market app install, stocks, etc... I get home with ~30% left.
During the weekends, I rarely use the phone sometimes and get 2 days or more.
Currently at 1d 3hrs and still 55%.
how do you uninstall the preinstall programs? i rooted my phone.. but when i go in to manage my apps.... i can still only unintall the ones that i downloaded. the preinstalled ones still dont allow me to un install
Use Titanium, or another uninstaller from the market...
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Don't uninstall system apps with titanium. Use the freeze function first. Arbitrarily uninstalling certain preinstalled apps can make your phone go wonky and titanium does not back up system apks, only data. So if you uninstall a system app, it's gone for good.
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On stock you should probably be able to go a day without the phone dying, depending on usage. Good custom ROMs with SetCPU profiles can do even better.
My advice, don't fuss around with trying to figure out what can be uninstalled and what can't. It's far easier to flash a custom ROM that doesn't come with any of that crud to begin with. If you're rooted, you might as well. Just make a backup of your stock ROM in case you need to switch back to it for some reason.
If you aren't going to do that, then I agree with the above about nixing the taskiller. Get a program that lets you monitor apps on your phone. Check it after a while and see if there are any apps that are misbehaving (using more resources than they reasonably should), then you can uninstall the offending app.
Naturally, turn off wireless and GPS when not in use. You can turn of sync as well, but every now and then you should turn it on for a bit to sync your stuff with Google's servers.
I unplug my phone around 6am every weekday and usually plug it back in between 10-11pm. My daily usage consists of mostly txts, a few phone calls, web browsing and maybe a game or two.
When I plug it back in every eveing I average about 40% battery left. I leave bluetooth and gps on and have all my mail accounts sync every two hours.
Compared to my Vibrant and even my G1 that is fantastic. The last couple of days I left it unplugged overnight to use as an alarm and it lost very little of it's juice.
I have a stock (though rooted) MT4G that is about a week or so old.
I use my phone moderately, but only talk maybe 10-30 minutes on average. I use between 30-60% of my battery in a 16 hour period. Once or twice I have used 2-3 hours of talk and heavy data useage, and I don't think I went under 25% battery in 16 hours.
It sounds like something is amiss with your family member. What does your battery usage stat say?
I would guess you may have a defective battery....
I've had my MT4G for about a month, still running stock and not rooted (yet lol). I've been paying attention to battery too. Battery life seems to have decreased over the last couple of weeks. First couple of weeks I had the phone it lasted from wake-up to bedtime on a single charge. Recently, though, it is usually at 10-20% by 6pm when I get home from work. Minimal usage, a few short phone calls, some texting, regular e-mail checking, and just playing with it for an hour or so every day (customizing home screen, market browsing, web browsing etc). Used to be when I'd plug it in to charge before going to bed it would be in the 10-20% range, now it's hitting that range about 5 or 6 hours earlier. Frustrating to say the least.
Just to give you a bit of reference, when my phone was stock unrootedi would get about 12hrs on a charge. After rooting I did a few simple things and now I get between 24 and 36hrs on a charge. The things I did after root were:
1.Keep gps, bluetooth, and wifi off when not in use
2.when at home using wifi, I change the carrier mode to gsm only so the radio doesn't constantly search for cdma signals. (this eats a lot of juice).
3.keep sync off and only sync mail when I need to check it.
4 don't use feed widgets (fb, twitter, news). I use the apps for those needs.
5 keep my screen brightness at 30% unless I'm in bright sunlight. I rarely go over 60%.
6.used titanium to freeze unwanted or unused apps and widgets.
7.use setcpu to underclock when screen is off or battery is low.
8.use watchdog to monitor cpu usage of my running apps. It notifies me if an app goes over a predefined threshold.
9.I NEVER use a taskkiller.
10.I don't use live wallpapers (watchdog has confirmed that they are ALL cpu hogs)
Some of these practices you can do without root and are good habits to get into.
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Hey guys, so ive had my nexus 4 for around 4 months now? might be more and the battery is just terrible, obviously we already know this as ive seen so many people post about it and such
my question is this, what do you guys use to save battery? Im currently on XYLON ROM with Perf-enhanced-Stock-422 kernel which isnt bad, theres nothing wrong with it in fact but i literally only get around 2 hours screen on time, terrible i know
ive heard people say flash android 4.2.2 and then flash a custom rom, apparently it helps or something? not fact but ive seen a few people solve it with this issue
What kind of roms and kernels are you guys using? And what governor?
Cheers guys, Jack
I've seen most people running Franco kernel with either cyanogen mod 10.1, PAC or paranoid android. You'll probably get a similar battery life with all of them, and probably the best your going to get.
Check your wake locks, use juice defender, check you're not dropping in and out of signal (hammers battery), turn of location settings...
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AKOP or CM with franco give me hours (4+) of calling or 1.5 days of moderate use.
I also have notification widgets on so I can quickly switch BT/WIFI/Brightness AND I make use of nfc tags so when I'm home wifi is auto turned on and when in the car it turns off.
From my experience, these battery saving apps such as juice defender are not good, you shouldn't use them.
About the battery life, there are tons of recommendations... stop syncing, turn brightness to as low as possible, turn off 3G when you don't need it...
Dont use your phone..
Seriously now, the battery is not bad at all, and in battery usage cases you need to state your usage of the phone (games, mail, 3g on most of the time? widgets? surfing and screen on time)
Without those parameters none can determine if you have wakelocks problem / some app is draining your battery or eventually maybe it's only psychological problem
Take in mind even on auto brightness, if you are playing heavy games dont expect to last a day or so..
Tricepz is on the money!
Need to analyze Your usage!
Most importantly you need to understand that this is not a primary game console or music player.
Things that drain battery fast!
1) Live Wallpaper
2) Games
3) Phone calls
4) Equalizers
5) Apps
Best to monitor your usage!
Personally I use the phone as follows for 16 to 22 hrs of usage.
Bus
1) 4 hrs of music with quality headphones that have noise canceling tech. Abel Planet 200b with built in amplifier.
2) 3 phone calls a day!
3) No games ! Have a tablet for that
4) Minimal reader for new feeds only updates once a day.
5) Music app either Apollo or NexMusic great music players without equalizer. simple controls.
On an average day headed to work paying bills I see 10 to 12 hrs easy.
Busy day on my phone 8 to 10 hrs.
Turn off services you don't need or use.
WIFI - Turn it off when you leave your house and when you don't need it. Leaving it on will drain power as it will continue to scan for a connection.
GPS - Turn off your GPS if you don't need.
Sync - Sync when you need to. Turn it off and access it manually.
Bluetooth - Turn it off when you don't need it
Location services - Go to the Settings menu and head over to Location access and switch "Access to my location" to off.
Backup services - Head over "Backup & Reset" and uncheck "Back up my data".
Screen brightness - The lower the brightness, the more power you'll save.
Apps - Applications like facebook and Google Maps will remain online as it runs in the background. As a result it will drain your battery. It can prevent your phone from entering deep-sleep to preserve power.
Signal - Connection is very important. If you're in a area where service is low to poor, your phone will draw more power to stay connected to the nearest cell antenna/tower. It's best to turn off on connections if you're in a no service area. Simply put the phone in "Airplane mode".
Usage - Battery life is dependent to whatever tasks you are performing on your phone. If you play games daily for a long period of time, then you should expect the battery to decrease dramatically. Conversely, if you just email, text, browse the web, make calls, little to no games then your battery life of the phone should last for quite a long time.
Useful apps
Greenify - This application allows you to hibernate apps from starting up like facebook, Google Maps and many more annoying apps that run in the background when they shouldn't be running. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Wakelock Detector - This wonderful app identifies apps that running during your usage and sees which one has been running the longest without your consent. You can use this with Greenify. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.
BetteryBatteryStats - Similar to wakelock detector but offers a more in-depth look of wakelocks that active during your usage. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLmFza3N2ZW4uYmV0dGVyYmF0dGVyeXN0YXRzIl0.
Kernels and roms
One major reason why root is amazing. Kernels offer tweaks that are beneficial for the phone to perform smoother and offer amazing battery life. Offers more tweaks as well like gamma and undervolting. Roms can contribute a small portion of battery saving but not much.
Did I miss anything else?
Adding Maps to Greenify usually helps a lot regarding battery life, can leave GPS on for other apps when doing this and won't suck any battery.
try franco or faux and then UV and UO ` its works for me, 4+ screen time easily :fingers-crossed:
I didnt expect so many comments! ive used franko kernel and air kernel before and no change
ill try some of them apps that everyone has mentioned
again thanks guys! Jack
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
rskyline said:
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
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I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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Yep definitely something's not right, facebook is known to be a battery drainer, i suggest to you that open it up on the browser and uninstall the app, try it!
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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With 80% left I have 1hr of screen on and 10mins of call time, this is with whatever kernel the latest CM nightly is using, so yeah you could definitely get better but I have to think facebook is the contributor since I too have twitter (plume) and tumblr without the same battery drain.
greenify is a must to disable rude apps which do thing without asking, like facebook, games, etc, they connect to internet to download ads and sttuff, facebook being the worse cpu eater
i use 2g only, wify in home, disable wifi outside,
only wassap active, some opera mini browsing, pics, talk, sms, little gaming, i get 1.5 days
off course heavy gaming kills the battery, because of 3d, even 2d games drain the battery because of the screen, like angry birds
using stock 422 + franco
I like to use JuiceDefender only when the phone's battery gets really low and I want to sacrifice some functionality. It works well, but only if you allow it to keep 3G/Wifi off when the screen is off.
I use facebook so much though, ugh :/ ill give it a go and if the battery lasts longer then ill get rid of it
single biggest difference I've seen is to stay on wifi all the time as much as possible. I leave it on no matter what. Granted if you are out and about, it won't help but once you get to home/work/friends/etc, your phone will immediately connect and start saving you juice.
91% after 8 hours with light usage at work. With 3G, I normally would be approaching 60-70% by now with light usage. That 3G drain is real and should be avoided whenever possible.
Don't play games. It seems like no matter what game I play, it'll almost always lock my cpu to the max frequency until I exit. Even really simple non graphics intense games.
Well ideally you're biggest battery drainer should be the the display. If it's not then read below.
1) So for the screen the best way to go is to get a stable custom rom like xenon and tinker with the auto brightness settings. Tweak out auto brightness settings to your liking (they're generally very overbright by default) and you'll see major increases in data.
2) Screen aside your other biggest drainer is cell radio. Particularly if you're in a low signal area it will drain your battery really fast. So if your using wifi anyway be sure to turn data off and switch to 2g. That way you'll have a strong signal and 2g drains less battery anyway.
3) As some people have mentioned already. rogue apps. Social networking apps are a huge drainer in this regard. Especially facebook. You just can't have that app on your phone and get decent battery. As for other apps which draw on unnecessary background data, Greenify their a**es.
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First of, to the mods. I know this belong in the battery thread, but I want to et out to as many that complain about the battery as possible, so people can get the battery life they should.
The problem with battery is bloatware and wakelocks. I'm gone from 80% deep sleep to 95%+ by flashing XtreStoLite. I lose less than a % over a night (10 hours). My Wakelocks is less than a % and 2% on a bad day.
After i flashed XtreStoLite my battery life got almost doubled. I have same apps installed as before besides all the bloatware. Only a few must have samsung apps.
Before this I barely hit 4 hours sot on mobile data and now I easy get 5 and 8+ on wifi.
After the rom and all the apps are installed, install greenify and hibernate all the apps that you don't need push notifications on. The first few days check greenify to cut off wake up paths. I have greenified every single app besides messenger.
Last thing is disable services. With the app disable services.
com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.Analytics Service
com.google.android.gms/com.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManage rService(Location Service) I have found out that it will not allow you to change settings on your wear if disabled or sync watch faces or their settings. So if I get a new watch face I just enable it again, configure the face and disable the service again afterwards.
com.android.gms.Feedback.FeedbackService(Breaks Play Games)
com.android.gms.ads.AdRequestBrokerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocatio nService(Location Service)
com.google.android.location.geofencer.service.Geof encerProviderService(GPS Service)
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.copresence.service.Pro ximitySettingInjectorService
com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
com.facebook.orca/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
If you know what you're doing you can disable from more apps.
Last, remember to backup!
Feel free to ask any questions you may have!
Whats your standby time though?
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Whats your standby time though?
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Well, only had it for a few days. Got 16 hours yesterday with 61% left. With high usage (5+ hours SOT, so that decrease standby time by a bit)
It's the standby time that mainly increased doing this. I just checked my Partial Wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and they're all showing 0%.
Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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It's working "fine". Just longer to set location first time. I think the reason Google Play Services is running rampant, is because it's getting our location all the time with Mobile data (google services is under control on Wifi).
So yeah, works fine. Just takes a little longer to get loc.
So basically you'll need to trip knox for this?
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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Yeah. It sucks it's Samsungs bloatware which ruins the experience, but well the hardware (and software) is capable of way better battery than most people are getting.
tiagovale2 said:
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
I hope we het xposed soon, with xposed it is dat easier to control these wakelocks
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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
tiagovale2 said:
So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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how do you make a s6 go to 3g
Tests prove 3g consumes more energy than 4g, it van (re)-establish connection faster and transfers data faster
Faspaiso said:
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
As I already have 20+ h on battery and 6+ SOT it will be interesting for me to try some of your tips.
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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
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I can try it tomorrow! Will give a review before go to bed tomorrow then!
Simplyeduardo said:
how do you make a s6 go to 3g
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Mobile data settings.
LG G3 Screen on Time Discussion
Greetings all.
Firstly, this is not a thread to discuss resolution changing! There are several of those already and it has been established that it does not have a viable effect on battery life!
I started this thread as I thought we could use a useful thread which we will discuss SOLEY (SOT) screen on time. After sifting through the rather disorganised battery life discussions I was left with mixed ideas of what a general screen on time for the LG G3 was. There are of course several of these battery threads, but as they all talk about all aspects of battery life, standby included, I thought it would be nice to get some ideas of SOT congregating in one thread.
Format
First of all there needs to be a format in which we standardise our discussion. If you are going to post complaining about SOT or saying how great your SOT is please format your post like so. I propose the following.
Model:
Rom and Version/Kernel:
Modem/Baseband:
Carrier/Country:
GPS:
WIFI:
Data (4g/3g/2g/none):
Explanation of use/modifications:
Screenshots (3% or below):
Would you please state in the explanation, your use of battery saving apps such as Greenify, Amplify, Automatic Data toggles, Tasker, Xposed and so on. Note any messaging/email clients installed as these will have an obvious effect on SOT. What are your syncing settings? For the screen shots post any that seem interesting but a 3% or below is preferred. Mention something about your use, if it was gaming, web browsing, listening to music, or with a long period of standby time. Also please state an aproximation of your brightness settings plus any debloating that you have done, and anything else you think is of relevance!
This is the proposed format for posting. We should be able to get a fantastic database of SOT for the LG G3.
I do realise that everyone's usage differs greatly and it will vary according to brightness, location and many different factors such as how long the phone has been in standby etcetera.. But don't let that stop you posting. I will start.
My Screen on TimeModel: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: Cloudy 2.5 and kernel
Modem/Baseband: 20P
Carrier/Country: Telecom Italia
GPS: No
WIFI: No
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G on constantly
Explanation of use/modifications: Fast dormancy disabled. All the bloatware frozen with titanium back up. Whats app was the only IM installed plus skype. Screen brightness was roughly below 60% almost the whole time on auto. No gaming. Music listening for 20min, reading xda for the majority of the time, plus a bit of downtime for dinner. No greenify, amplify or data toggles. Purely let it run how it goes. Although I did have the sharpening set to disabled. My signal was around 2 bars for most of the time and my sync for everything was disabled, contacts, all google sync stuff. I had also disabled back ground data for the Google Play Store, which results in a pop up error, but this can be fixed by exiting and resarting the Play Store.
Screenshots (3% or below):
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
derpadoodle said:
My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
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That is still phenomenal. I cannot comprehend having 7+ hours of SOT. It really is the only real gauge of battery life. At least for me. Idle battery drain is easily fixed by controlling wakelocks, but SOT is the main thing that I look for in a smart phone.
Before I bought this phone, which was about a week ago, I was impressed by 5 hours SOT, but knowing that this phone can have upwards of 7 hours makes me want to look into this issue more. It doesnt make sense to me. Do you have a BBS log from these screen on times?
Was your update OTA? I assume so. I currently don't have any wifi so I'm going to search for a hotspot, download the firmware from the XDA thread, flash it and see how I go. I am in Italy so it could be interesting.
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I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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The gaming really kills it. The GPU has a time with the screen. At least thats what I have found. I did about 20 min of that Shark Game to test out the phone and got 5 hours + SOT by 2% remaining. Facebook wont be helping. Whatsapp doesn't seem to be a problem for me on the drain side. It drains a bit, but not alot. Also does Optus support Fast Dormancy? If not its probably best to disable it.
Remeber to post in the above format so we can start to piece together the perfect combinations!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Mother of god..
asingha94 said:
Mother of god..
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That's what I thought..
Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
Zunex95 said:
Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Zunex95 said:
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
Zunex95 said:
Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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Yeah, I noticed the exact same phenomenon actually, draining speeding up from 30%. I made a thread about it but no one took any interest. I read somewhere that perhaps LG does it to create a false sense of better battery. I would like to find the problem here though, because it is a rather annoying problem. Having inaccurate battery readings under 30% is the last thing you want. Perhaps they made it like that to make the battery saver feature seem like it is doing more than it really is?
As for charging over night I had that too on some other devices. I think it is a common bug across android or general lion batteries, because it's not uncommon to hear about. I'm sure there is a lot of discussion out there about it. Still, two percent is rather nice to gain over night without charging!
One more question, are you using the stock charger?
hi everyone,
I'm hearing praise everywhere about how great this battery has been with people getting at least 8 to even 12 hours of SOT (average seems to be 10).
so how come my device clearly is much worse in this regard?
I activated black theme wherever I can, turned of scanning for BT and WiFi , use low brightness, the apps I use are not intensive AT ALL (no gaming, no Facebook) , I wiped the device cache, I resteicted battery usage of 155 apps .
it seems that Google play services is somewhat of a problem (which is why I cleared play services , Google and play store cache, as well as resteicted play services usage data), however it isn't even the biggest battery drain . also turned off face unlock.
I tried turning adaptive battery as well as advanced optimisation options on and off but it didn't seem to make a difference.
What could be the reason for the bad battery life?
can you help me? I want to like this phone but it's impossible when I get consistently less than 6h SOT when already making so many compromises (whereas other people seem to be doing no tweaking and get 11 hours)
http :// imgur.com/a/wCjd3kR (no other format available BC I'm a new member)
Also: why does my wallpaper change every time I reboot my phone?
I wasn't doing to well, then I reset my phone and it has been insanely good. I would say I started stock with adding limited apps. I suspect myfitnesspal was hurting my battery so I use the browser version. Right now I have 60% left, been on for 30 hours with 3 SOT. Aiming for 3 days which I have never done on a stock phone.
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I wasn't doing to well, then I reset my phone and it has been insanely good. I would say I started stock with adding limited apps. I suspect myfitnesspal was hurting my battery so I use the browser version. Right now I have 60% left, been on for 30 hours with 3 SOT. Aiming for 3 days which I have never done on a stock phone.
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So what you're suggesting is that I should do a factory reset and then don't use the OnePlus Switch app (like I previously did) to restore my apps but instead install one by one?
I mean I get it that apps like Strava use up a lot of battery but I don't use it very often and with this light usage I expected twice the SOT tbh..
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So what you're suggesting is that I should do a factory reset and then don't use the OnePlus Switch app (like I previously did) to restore my apps but instead install one by one?
I mean I get it that apps like Strava use up a lot of battery but I don't use it very often and with this light usage I expected twice the SOT tbh..
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Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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Thank you. I will try that on the weekend after monitoring battery life for the days till then. Maybe it randomly resolves itself?
But drag-and-dropping music from my PC (or from my phone to the PC) on the device shouldn't cause corrupt data, right?
Also restricting all these apps and using different kinds of in-built battery savers shouldn't cause reduced battery either, I suppose ? It would be quite counterintuitive.
Sry for asking such naive questions, I'm not very tech-affine
when play services show up as battery hogs the problem is often not within play services but some app using play services.
to save battery many connections (like push notifications) are handled by Google services instead of all apps keeping separate listerners/connections alive. This saves tremendous amounts of battery but makes troubleshooting harder, as the app causing the drain is not showing up under battery stats.
I would also recommend a fresh start.
Don't worry about it so much. 6h SOT is amazing. Set your phone up the way you want it, with the widgets, apps, screen brightness that you want. When was the last time you needed a phone to last three days? I use my phone whenever I want throughout the day: some navigating, some calling, have the screen on for 3-4 hours, and have 30% left when I get home in the evening after 12+ hours off of the charger. Just enjoy the phone.
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Don't worry about it so much. 6h SOT is amazing. Set your phone up the way you want it, with the widgets, apps, screen brightness that you want. When was the last time you needed a phone to last three days? I use my phone whenever I want throughout the day: some navigating, some calling, have the screen on for 3-4 hours, and have 30% left when I get home in the evening after 12+ hours off of the charger. Just enjoy the phone.
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The last time a phone lasted me three days was my Oneplus One, it had better battery life than this.
I'm enjoying the phone but I want what I paid for and it is not such ****ty battery life.
Bäcker said:
when play services show up as battery hogs the problem is often not within play services but some app using play services.
to save battery many connections (like push notifications) are handled by Google services instead of all apps keeping separate listerners/connections alive. This saves tremendous amounts of battery but makes troubleshooting harder, as the app causing the drain is not showing up under battery stats.
I would also recommend a fresh start.
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I practically restricted all apps in both battery and notifications, could that be an issue?
When I factory reset should I not restrict so much this time around (as well as not use OP switch)?
I do not have any app restricted and get during 2 days with 6+h sot.
Also restricting location to GPS only does help save battery. Google now on always listening also drains faster. If you want to use all comfort features that is fine, but you will not get as long battery life and sort compared to ppl not using that stuff
Do a factory reset and then only install the minimum apps you need. when after two days your battery stats do look nice you now know that the device is fine, you can then add more of your apps and monitor what happens.
I personally use titanium backup instead of switch but that requires root.
Bäcker said:
I do not have any app restricted and get during 2 days with 6+h sot.
Also restricting location to GPS only does help save battery. Google now on always listening also drains faster. If you want to use all comfort features that is fine, but you will not get as long battery life and sort compared to ppl not using that stuff
Do a factory reset and then only install the minimum apps you need. when after two days your battery stats do look nice you now know that the device is fine, you can then add more of your apps and monitor what happens.
I personally use titanium backup instead of switch but that requires root.
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I don't really have "a lot of comfort features". I battery restricted most of my apps, use blackmode everywhere, hardly receive notifications anymore, and only use low brightness. I'd expect more than 5h SOT.
I just hope it's not the device
hartleyshc said:
Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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I also forgot to mention, I have it set on battery saver, but I mean, I have listened to music thru the speakers for 40 mins, listened to music for about 45 mins over bluetooth, I have a garmin watch that syncs texts and calls, I have real no major compromises (also not rooted, which I have always been a root junky) and I am at 51% with 3.5 SOT with 1.5 hours of voice calls to. I will mention, I froze Chrome and am using Via as my browser, not sure if that is helping or not either.
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Methylglyoxal said:
I don't really have "a lot of comfort features". I battery restricted most of my apps, use blackmode everywhere, hardly receive notifications anymore, and only use low brightness. I'd expect more than 5h SOT.
I just hope it's not the device
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Before I reset, I was getting like 3 SOT... Lol
Give the reset a go.
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
duvee said:
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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EspElement said:
I also forgot to mention, I have it set on battery saver, but I mean, I have listened to music thru the speakers for 40 mins, listened to music for about 45 mins over bluetooth, I have a garmin watch that syncs texts and calls, I have real no major compromises (also not rooted, which I have always been a root junky) and I am at 51% with 3.5 SOT with 1.5 hours of voice calls to. I will mention, I froze Chrome and am using Via as my browser, not sure if that is helping or not either.
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Before I reset, I was getting like 3 SOT... Lol
Give the reset a go.
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Insane usage, can't really imagine that rn. Thanks, I maybe will do that on the weekend and report back if I remember. Again, drag-dropping music files from my PC shouldn't be an issue right?
duvee said:
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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Thank you. That's the usage I dream of lol. I hope a reset can fix it.Do you have mobile data/cellular active?
Methylglyoxal said:
hi everyone,
I'm hearing praise everywhere about how great this battery has been with people getting at least 8 to even 12 hours of SOT (average seems to be 10).
so how come my device clearly is much worse in this regard?
I activated black theme wherever I can, turned of scanning for BT and WiFi , use low brightness, the apps I use are not intensive AT ALL (no gaming, no Facebook) , I wiped the device cache, I resteicted battery usage of 155 apps .
it seems that Google play services is somewhat of a problem (which is why I cleared play services , Google and play store cache, as well as resteicted play services usage data), however it isn't even the biggest battery drain . also turned off face unlock.
I tried turning adaptive battery as well as advanced optimisation options on and off but it didn't seem to make a difference.
What could be the reason for the bad battery life?
can you help me? I want to like this phone but it's impossible when I get consistently less than 6h SOT when already making so many compromises (whereas other people seem to be doing no tweaking and get 11 hours)
http :// imgur.com/a/wCjd3kR (no other format available BC I'm a new member)
Also: why does my wallpaper change every time I reboot my phone?
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Another factor to battery life is your carrier connection. Who do you use? And how is your reception? Bad reception can easily drain a battery.
Methylglyoxal said:
The last time a phone lasted me three days was my Oneplus One, it had better battery life than this.
I'm enjoying the phone but I want what I paid for and it is not such ****ty battery life.
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I guess everyone's definition of "****ty battery life" is different. What you described sounds like pretty awesome battery life at that much SOT and a full day's battery life.
nory82688 said:
Another factor to battery life is your carrier connection. Who do you use? And how is your reception? Bad reception can easily drain a battery.
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Telekom, ie T-Mobile in Germany. I have great reception.
pkadavid said:
I guess everyone's definition of "****ty battery life" is different. What you described sounds like pretty awesome battery life at that much SOT and a full day's battery life.
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Yeah, that was my OnePlue One though. My OP6T has worse battery life now. How is 5h awesome when the average user of the same phone gets twice the amount without restricting all of their phone functionality?
I am also getting around 5 to 6 SOT... so i decided to facory reset and then just add my daily apps ... hopefully it will get better
I work 8 hours a day, during that time im using wifi, then i drive home and do some things outside sow i use 4g connection.. Then im back home and using wifi again.
I think the biggest difference with you guys and me is, i deleted all the system bloatware apps.. I only kept google calandar and play store. It could be that all theae apps i deleted, is causing you guys a poor batt life, because i havent read anybody saying they did the same.
Drag dropping music from your pc is no prob.