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First of, to the mods. I know this belong in the battery thread, but I want to et out to as many that complain about the battery as possible, so people can get the battery life they should.
The problem with battery is bloatware and wakelocks. I'm gone from 80% deep sleep to 95%+ by flashing XtreStoLite. I lose less than a % over a night (10 hours). My Wakelocks is less than a % and 2% on a bad day.
After i flashed XtreStoLite my battery life got almost doubled. I have same apps installed as before besides all the bloatware. Only a few must have samsung apps.
Before this I barely hit 4 hours sot on mobile data and now I easy get 5 and 8+ on wifi.
After the rom and all the apps are installed, install greenify and hibernate all the apps that you don't need push notifications on. The first few days check greenify to cut off wake up paths. I have greenified every single app besides messenger.
Last thing is disable services. With the app disable services.
com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.Analytics Service
com.google.android.gms/com.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManage rService(Location Service) I have found out that it will not allow you to change settings on your wear if disabled or sync watch faces or their settings. So if I get a new watch face I just enable it again, configure the face and disable the service again afterwards.
com.android.gms.Feedback.FeedbackService(Breaks Play Games)
com.android.gms.ads.AdRequestBrokerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocatio nService(Location Service)
com.google.android.location.geofencer.service.Geof encerProviderService(GPS Service)
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.copresence.service.Pro ximitySettingInjectorService
com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
com.facebook.orca/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
If you know what you're doing you can disable from more apps.
Last, remember to backup!
Feel free to ask any questions you may have!
Whats your standby time though?
King p1n said:
Whats your standby time though?
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Well, only had it for a few days. Got 16 hours yesterday with 61% left. With high usage (5+ hours SOT, so that decrease standby time by a bit)
It's the standby time that mainly increased doing this. I just checked my Partial Wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and they're all showing 0%.
Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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It's working "fine". Just longer to set location first time. I think the reason Google Play Services is running rampant, is because it's getting our location all the time with Mobile data (google services is under control on Wifi).
So yeah, works fine. Just takes a little longer to get loc.
So basically you'll need to trip knox for this?
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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So basically you'll need to trip knox for this?
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Yeah. It sucks it's Samsungs bloatware which ruins the experience, but well the hardware (and software) is capable of way better battery than most people are getting.
tiagovale2 said:
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
I hope we het xposed soon, with xposed it is dat easier to control these wakelocks
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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
tiagovale2 said:
So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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how do you make a s6 go to 3g
Tests prove 3g consumes more energy than 4g, it van (re)-establish connection faster and transfers data faster
Faspaiso said:
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
As I already have 20+ h on battery and 6+ SOT it will be interesting for me to try some of your tips.
madnav said:
Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
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I can try it tomorrow! Will give a review before go to bed tomorrow then!
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Mobile data settings.
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Hey guys, so ive had my nexus 4 for around 4 months now? might be more and the battery is just terrible, obviously we already know this as ive seen so many people post about it and such
my question is this, what do you guys use to save battery? Im currently on XYLON ROM with Perf-enhanced-Stock-422 kernel which isnt bad, theres nothing wrong with it in fact but i literally only get around 2 hours screen on time, terrible i know
ive heard people say flash android 4.2.2 and then flash a custom rom, apparently it helps or something? not fact but ive seen a few people solve it with this issue
What kind of roms and kernels are you guys using? And what governor?
Cheers guys, Jack
I've seen most people running Franco kernel with either cyanogen mod 10.1, PAC or paranoid android. You'll probably get a similar battery life with all of them, and probably the best your going to get.
Check your wake locks, use juice defender, check you're not dropping in and out of signal (hammers battery), turn of location settings...
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AKOP or CM with franco give me hours (4+) of calling or 1.5 days of moderate use.
I also have notification widgets on so I can quickly switch BT/WIFI/Brightness AND I make use of nfc tags so when I'm home wifi is auto turned on and when in the car it turns off.
From my experience, these battery saving apps such as juice defender are not good, you shouldn't use them.
About the battery life, there are tons of recommendations... stop syncing, turn brightness to as low as possible, turn off 3G when you don't need it...
Dont use your phone..
Seriously now, the battery is not bad at all, and in battery usage cases you need to state your usage of the phone (games, mail, 3g on most of the time? widgets? surfing and screen on time)
Without those parameters none can determine if you have wakelocks problem / some app is draining your battery or eventually maybe it's only psychological problem
Take in mind even on auto brightness, if you are playing heavy games dont expect to last a day or so..
Tricepz is on the money!
Need to analyze Your usage!
Most importantly you need to understand that this is not a primary game console or music player.
Things that drain battery fast!
1) Live Wallpaper
2) Games
3) Phone calls
4) Equalizers
5) Apps
Best to monitor your usage!
Personally I use the phone as follows for 16 to 22 hrs of usage.
Bus
1) 4 hrs of music with quality headphones that have noise canceling tech. Abel Planet 200b with built in amplifier.
2) 3 phone calls a day!
3) No games ! Have a tablet for that
4) Minimal reader for new feeds only updates once a day.
5) Music app either Apollo or NexMusic great music players without equalizer. simple controls.
On an average day headed to work paying bills I see 10 to 12 hrs easy.
Busy day on my phone 8 to 10 hrs.
Turn off services you don't need or use.
WIFI - Turn it off when you leave your house and when you don't need it. Leaving it on will drain power as it will continue to scan for a connection.
GPS - Turn off your GPS if you don't need.
Sync - Sync when you need to. Turn it off and access it manually.
Bluetooth - Turn it off when you don't need it
Location services - Go to the Settings menu and head over to Location access and switch "Access to my location" to off.
Backup services - Head over "Backup & Reset" and uncheck "Back up my data".
Screen brightness - The lower the brightness, the more power you'll save.
Apps - Applications like facebook and Google Maps will remain online as it runs in the background. As a result it will drain your battery. It can prevent your phone from entering deep-sleep to preserve power.
Signal - Connection is very important. If you're in a area where service is low to poor, your phone will draw more power to stay connected to the nearest cell antenna/tower. It's best to turn off on connections if you're in a no service area. Simply put the phone in "Airplane mode".
Usage - Battery life is dependent to whatever tasks you are performing on your phone. If you play games daily for a long period of time, then you should expect the battery to decrease dramatically. Conversely, if you just email, text, browse the web, make calls, little to no games then your battery life of the phone should last for quite a long time.
Useful apps
Greenify - This application allows you to hibernate apps from starting up like facebook, Google Maps and many more annoying apps that run in the background when they shouldn't be running. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Wakelock Detector - This wonderful app identifies apps that running during your usage and sees which one has been running the longest without your consent. You can use this with Greenify. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.
BetteryBatteryStats - Similar to wakelock detector but offers a more in-depth look of wakelocks that active during your usage. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLmFza3N2ZW4uYmV0dGVyYmF0dGVyeXN0YXRzIl0.
Kernels and roms
One major reason why root is amazing. Kernels offer tweaks that are beneficial for the phone to perform smoother and offer amazing battery life. Offers more tweaks as well like gamma and undervolting. Roms can contribute a small portion of battery saving but not much.
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Adding Maps to Greenify usually helps a lot regarding battery life, can leave GPS on for other apps when doing this and won't suck any battery.
try franco or faux and then UV and UO ` its works for me, 4+ screen time easily :fingers-crossed:
I didnt expect so many comments! ive used franko kernel and air kernel before and no change
ill try some of them apps that everyone has mentioned
again thanks guys! Jack
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
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Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
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I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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Yep definitely something's not right, facebook is known to be a battery drainer, i suggest to you that open it up on the browser and uninstall the app, try it!
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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With 80% left I have 1hr of screen on and 10mins of call time, this is with whatever kernel the latest CM nightly is using, so yeah you could definitely get better but I have to think facebook is the contributor since I too have twitter (plume) and tumblr without the same battery drain.
greenify is a must to disable rude apps which do thing without asking, like facebook, games, etc, they connect to internet to download ads and sttuff, facebook being the worse cpu eater
i use 2g only, wify in home, disable wifi outside,
only wassap active, some opera mini browsing, pics, talk, sms, little gaming, i get 1.5 days
off course heavy gaming kills the battery, because of 3d, even 2d games drain the battery because of the screen, like angry birds
using stock 422 + franco
I like to use JuiceDefender only when the phone's battery gets really low and I want to sacrifice some functionality. It works well, but only if you allow it to keep 3G/Wifi off when the screen is off.
I use facebook so much though, ugh :/ ill give it a go and if the battery lasts longer then ill get rid of it
single biggest difference I've seen is to stay on wifi all the time as much as possible. I leave it on no matter what. Granted if you are out and about, it won't help but once you get to home/work/friends/etc, your phone will immediately connect and start saving you juice.
91% after 8 hours with light usage at work. With 3G, I normally would be approaching 60-70% by now with light usage. That 3G drain is real and should be avoided whenever possible.
Don't play games. It seems like no matter what game I play, it'll almost always lock my cpu to the max frequency until I exit. Even really simple non graphics intense games.
Well ideally you're biggest battery drainer should be the the display. If it's not then read below.
1) So for the screen the best way to go is to get a stable custom rom like xenon and tinker with the auto brightness settings. Tweak out auto brightness settings to your liking (they're generally very overbright by default) and you'll see major increases in data.
2) Screen aside your other biggest drainer is cell radio. Particularly if you're in a low signal area it will drain your battery really fast. So if your using wifi anyway be sure to turn data off and switch to 2g. That way you'll have a strong signal and 2g drains less battery anyway.
3) As some people have mentioned already. rogue apps. Social networking apps are a huge drainer in this regard. Especially facebook. You just can't have that app on your phone and get decent battery. As for other apps which draw on unnecessary background data, Greenify their a**es.
If i can Root my 9005 - i intend to use Greenify,, as my battery is very poor (stock i'm lucky if i get 8-9 hours light/moderate use)
Is it a rated app,, can i expect big battery gains?
Thanks.
Depends which apps you have installed and how you use them. For example facebook drains much battery so you coukd greenify the app but if you do so you wont recive notifications anymore from it aslong you arent actively using the app.
In other words it prevents apps from wacking up.
As someone who already always manually force-closed all running apps, all I noticed was an increase in free time, as greenify is faster at it.
I didnt notice any increase in battery life.
If you don't manually force-close your apps, it'll probably have a bigger impact.
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You will have some slight increases of battery of you force close the apps wich cause many wake locks like what's app
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JCM800 said:
If i can Root my 9005 - i intend to use Greenify,, as my battery is very poor (stock i'm lucky if i get 8-9 hours light/moderate use)
Is it a rated app,, can i expect big battery gains?
Thanks.
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It seems to help mine. I run it with the Xposed Module that adds features that still preserve the notifications from Facebook, etc. I also have it set to boost mode for it to work faster.
I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I do all that myself manually.... Sync always off and I turn Wifi or mobile data on when I need it, and turn it off when I'm done.
Cheaper than buying an app, too.
The real saver for me has been LUX. With our climate and the time I spend indoors, a brightness between -20% and 4% is more than sufficient. Now THAT saves battery! With brightness at 4, I loose 1% per 15 minutes whilst browsing! With it at 50, 1% per 5 minutes. At 100%, 1% per 90 seconds.
And when i use it in the dark, - 70%. I barely lose any charge at all whilst being an insomniac. It's been 20 minutes, still on 55% charge, which it also was 20 minutes ago. WiFi on, eWeatherHD update on, Tapatalk, Facebook and Firefox in use.
(if websites used less of that eyesore white, it'd save even more.)
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I would suggest to remove some bloatware comes with the ROM / firmware itself.
It safes much battery though.
As well as turn on location, and on it when you want to use it.
And I freeze some apps which is running in background (which greenify can't detect it), which I don't use it as well.
and change to a good kernel.
it will really have a good deep sleep, never up if I never wake it up.
the apps running in background is only messenger apps like whatsapp, viber, and that kind of stuff. I never freeze this one and never put it on greenify as well.
So far so good.
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I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I might look into that app. I go with the "free" lol DIY manual turn data/wifi off thing too, but sometimes I forget and I see wifi on when I had turned it off or so I thought. some apps are worth the couple dollars or so and I might very well get this one. Thanks for the tip on it. I like too that it automatically turns on wifi or data such as when you go to read an email or something.
You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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Juice defender is a dead project and 2 years old. Greenpower is basically the same app but still supported.
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You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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Hey thanks! I did go ahead with Green Power yesterday and I have to say I notice enough of a difference for sure. My usage has been with a phone call, check messages, several texts, check email a few times and some light surfing. i'm at 89% at 8 hours pulled off 100% charge and would have been lower for sure into 70s at best. definitely notice.
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Hi
I see a lot of people on here complaining about the battery life on this phone, when in fact it's quite good. I have been able to pull off 3.30 hours SOT today with 40% left and 18 hours since unplugged with not even half the settings below (only turning off the things I don't use at all) and my Smart Watch connected with bluetooth all day.
I came from a Xperia Z3 before and of course it's nothing compared to that one (even tho, at times I get higher SOT) but the Galaxy S6 is also capable of way more.
When I first started with the phone, I was one of those that got barely 2 hours SOT so here I will write down the tips & tricks I gathered from reading on here and the things I found out myself.
First of, if you rooted, the cause could be no deep sleep. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/battery-drain-root-twrp-to-fix-t3088860 by Meboy.
If you have deep sleep this might do it.
1. Disable voLTE as it's not really needed. Phoneapp -> More -> Disable it from there.
2. As this is a amoled screen, each background light, light up individually, so having a black background (and black theme in apps) safe a lot of juice.
3. Wifi -> More -> uncheck always searching for wifi.
4. Settings -> search -> Trust Agents -> Disable Smart Lock if not using it. It use quite some battery even when not used (no idea why).
5. Update Samsung Push Service from App Store.
6. Disable movements and gestures if not using them. Settings -> Movements and gestures.
7. My Google Services used way to much battery. I found the app, deleted the data and it came "back in control", so it's acceptable with the battery drain now.
8. The Gmail app use less juice than the stock Email app.
9. Sync, NFC, GPS and off when not using. I only have mobile data on all the time.
10. If in low coverage area of 4g, use HSPA instead (if good coverage). I barely notice any different in speed, but my phone use way less battery in deep sleep now. Still at 100% after 8-9 hours of sleep when on HSPA (good signal) from 4g (very bad signal) where it could use over 5% a night.
11. Settings -> Availability -> Direct access -> Turn on -> Grayscale on. 3 taps on the home button will turn Grayscale on, which greatly reduce the power your screen consume. No need to have it on all the time. But at times, when you know you gotta need the battery, turn it on by 3 clicks on the home button and your screen will use less battery.
12. The Facebook and Messenger app use quite a lot of battery. But I need the Messenger app, but I deleted and disabled the Facebook app (remember to disable it too, as - no idea why - it still used battery even tho I was logged out. As the Facebook app is stock on the S6) and just use the web browser Facebook app. Works fine.
13. Other apps I disabled is:
Drive
Facebook
Everything with Google in front of it. Google books, play, now, plus etc.
Hangouts
Instagram
Onedrive
S Health and S Voice
Skype and Whatsapp
Just disable the apps you don't use.
14. Battery saver. If you don't want to have it on all the time, set it to a certain %, so that when your battery hit that % it turns on. Helps greatly improve battery life.
15. Greenify apps that run in the background, but no need to. Like
Dropbox
9gag
MyFitnessPal
Wordfeud
etc
Don't disable apps you use all the time, like Messenger, Chrome, Snapchat and so on, as you will not get any notifications and it use more battery opening them up all the time.
16. Instead of using auto-brightness, set it as low as you can tolerate.
17. Vibration off - Feedback, keyboard and ringing. Vibration use quite some juice.
18. Turn google location history off. Can't remember where, but a fast Google search will tell you.
19. Have been reports about high usage if restoring from old phone or google/samsung account.
20. Heard someone say this, but not sure what other side effects it have. But he said that you could disable Google Services, as there is a wakelock bug on 5.0.2 and it should work fine if not using other Google apps. But not sure on this one!
21. Widgets are cool, but they have a drawback. Some of them use quite some battery too, like weather apps.
I know some of those things will turn your phone into a dumb phone, but this is clearly tips to improve battery life. No need to use everything all the time. Turn off the things you can live with all the time and the rest you can turn off and on as you like and when you need it.
EDIT: Tasker is also pretty neat with secure settings if you know how it works.
Then your phone can automatically turn GPS on when opening apps that use GPS and turn it off afterwards.
Thank you for this, im not a heavy user but hell im seeing 30+ hrs on the phone ... cant complain
s6 made me do it
eyekyu said:
Thank you for this, im not a heavy user but hell im seeing 30+ hrs on the phone ... cant complain
s6 made me do it
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Agreed! This phone have lasted me a weekend! 1-2 hours SOT a day, less than 1% battery loss for 10 hours standby time. It have just beaten my Xperia Z3.
Great thread it really helped a lot
Man although I'm very pleased with battery life already, this is an excellent guide bro. This should be stickied in my opinion.
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Threads already exist:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/10-battery-life-tips-tricks-t3088264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/guide-battery-performance-tips-t3072049
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Hello:
App standby in developer option is showing all my app active, even the calculator, fm radio, adobe reader, it is supossed to inactive them if i don't use them and there is a lot of apps that i never used and they are "active". All my apps have set to optimize in battery and i was having better battery life in L.L.. Perphaps performance is a lot superior on marshmallow. In another hand, Doze is not working, my device idlle is eating 1% or more a hour.
Does anyone having this issue?
I have no autosync but notification on with whatsapp, badoo, happn, tinder, facebook, facebook messenger and precisition set to accurate. No games, just chrome an apps allready named. I am getting 12hs of baterry with 5-6 hs of Sot.
Now i have disable personal data on google play store, google play service and motocare in security.
Thanks in advance!
idle is draining more than 1% because when the device is idle the location services and fb notification services are still running in the background.
By default Doze doesn't kick in until your screen has been off for 30 minutes and then it checks to see if your phone is motionless - if it isn't (ie. it's in your pocket and you are walking around) then the 30 min timer kicks in again.
This is, btw, an absolutely over-simplified description. Basically if you are checking your phone every few minutes or walking around with it in your pocket, it's not going to Doze.
In your case, I wouldn't worry about what is active/inactive, instead I'd look at what wakelocks might be causing your battery drain. An app like "Wakelock Detector" or "Better Battery Stats" can tell you this but you have to be rooted.
Did your phone come with Lollipop and subsequently updated OTA to MM? If so, and you haven't done so already, a factory reset would probably help (or at least eliminate one possible battery drain cause).
You have Badoo, Facebook and Facbook messenger with location set to accurate + 5 hrs of SoT!!!!! 12 hours is a Miracle!!!!
What do you expect more? Sun, Moon and The stars?
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You have Badoo, Facebook and Facbook messenger with location set to accurate + 5 hrs of SoT!!!!! 12 hours is a Miracle!!!!
What do you expect more? Sun, Moon and The stars?
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Thanks all for your answers!
-Update via OTA, factory reset, wipe cache.
-Allready know how doze works, doing test in the nigth, phone on a desc, idle for like 9hs.
-Same apps than in L.L but worse battery. In L.L these apps didn't keep my device awake, now they do. Y checked and the one that make my device awake was Messenger. Uninstalled, tested and device didn't awake with screen off. Like 2 hours laters, same test, now facebook start keeping the device awake... I am checking manually because i didn't root it. I am trying too to see if this problem has to be with high presicition on location service or just facebool and messenger apps, but ****ing tinder don't work with battery saving ubication. I know all are ****ty apps but i love to **** strangers hahahahahhaha.
In the other hand, i had read that in nexus phone and other M.M phones in the developer options app didn't use figure "inactive", in my phone all apps are active and can't toogle to inactive!
Again, thanks a lot for your help!
Also, dissable a system app called motorols notification service, didn't know what it do but was with google play services an Dm services in not optimizing apps. Anyone now what it is? All functionality work the same!
Hi. Don't you have a problem with Facebook Messenger notifications? I set it to not optimize, but my messages are not received immediately. Sometimes even after 5 minutes after turning screen off I don't have notification and must turn screen on.
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When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the OnePlus 6's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
This is my first op phone. Since what i ve heard and what i recieve is comparitively low
For me it's quite high as it was with the 3t. Feel like there is almost no difference to when using the phone
at night its 1%/h yet i am after first charge
For me 9hrs sleep = 18% battery drain
7h Sleep = 15% battery drain. Consistently.
Wifi ON and Dual SIM with good network on both.
Sucks....
From what's being said here, it sounds similar to my OP3. Probably the biggest weakness of One Plus phones. If only they could poach the battery wizard from Huawei. :angel:
Yeah this is my biggest concern right now.
I've had around seven hours SoT during the weekend which is OK, but using it sparingly at work today has resulted in around 1hr SoT and yet 48% battery drain.
That just doesn't add up, right?
I'm within my 14 day return window so may just cut my losses rather than hope OP improve matters somehow.
Shame, because I liked the phone otherwise.
I haven't measured exact numbers, but standby drain is higher than I expected
Zero drain over night with the airplane Mode.
It has been around 3-4% per hour for me today.
I am extremely happy with my OP6 standby drain. Here is my graph with 2 days and 5 hours of stand-by while also getting 6 hours of SOT (mostly web browsing, no games though). It's insane, really The phone was never in airplane mode or other abnormal things. Not rooted, 100% stock, with some disabled apps like Google Drive, Google App, etc. (not using them).
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I am extremely happy with my OP6 standby drain. Here is my graph with 2 days and 5 hours of stand-by while also getting 6 hours of SOT (mostly web browsing, no games though). It's insane, really The phone was never in airplane mode or other abnormal things. Not rooted, 100% stock, with some disabled apps like Google Drive, Google App, etc. (not using them).
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That seems incredible to me...can I ask if there any settings such as location or screen brightness you changed? Surely it can't just be Google apps causing battery drain?
Admittedly I have two Google accounts hooked up which can't be helping!
Well...I have posted another screenshot, maybe this makes it more credible ? I also have 2 Google accounts that are syncing normally. For me, turning off data, turning off sync or turning on airplane mode doesn't count as a method to save battery.
Here are some things that I do to improve battery life:
- I opt out of all "send diagnostic information" checkboxes. It's easy to realize how these reduce battery
- For Google accounts, I disable all syncing except "Gmail" and maybe "Contacts". Google Drive, Google Photos are disabled
- No OnePlus account entered (who knows what and how often they send if you use this...)
- I do not use any social media apps (but do use Whatsapp), I only use Facebook from the browser
- Location is off
- I deny access to Location for all apps except Waze and Maps.
- Face Unlock is off (I have noticed it drains battery, turns on front camera very often - obviously). I am using Smart Lock with my Bluetooth Pebble watch to keep phone unlocked.
- I use Microsoft Apps instead of Google apps whenever possible (Outlook instead of Gmail - it's better anyway)
- I use Samsung Internet Browser (beta) instead of Chrome (I have very good experience with this browser - it's really fast and efficient).
- I have specifically chosen the 6GB of RAM model thinking that there are less chips to power.
Thank you, some very good tips there. I'll give some of them a go and see what happens.
Surely the 6Gb can't make that much difference to battery life? Interesting to see what model other people with decent battery life have.
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Well...I have posted another screenshot, maybe this makes it more credible ? I also have 2 Google accounts that are syncing normally. For me, turning off data or turning on airplane mode doesn't count as a method to save battery.
Here are some things that I do to improve battery life:
- I opt out of all "send diagnostic information" checkboxes. It's easy to realize how these reduce battery
- For Google accounts, I disable all syncing except "Gmail" and maybe "Contacts". Google Drive, Google Photos are disabled
- No OnePlus account entered (who knows what and how often they send if you use this...)
- I do not use any social media apps (but do use Whatsapp), I only use Facebook from the browser
- Location is off
- I deny access to Location for all apps except Waze and Maps.
- Face Unlock is off (I have noticed it drains battery, turns on front camera very often - obviously). I am using Smart Lock with my Bluetooth Pebble watch to keep phone unlocked.
- I use Microsoft Apps instead of Google apps whenever possible (Outlook instead of Gmail - it's better anyway)
- I have specifically chosen the 6GB of RAM model thinking that there are less chips to power.
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Good advices indeed
but quite restritive, don't you think?
I wonder if the users who have a good SOT have restricted all the applications and the syncing that you did.
I send my diagnotics because I think and hope that they might be useful to get better OSes and better hardware.
My location is set to on, but only the basic one.
I allow some apps to have my location because sometimes, they give me good advices
Face Unlock is on, it's such a great feature, can't live without it now
I really don't think there is a difference between 4/6/8 GB RAM. RAM doesn't eat battery life, the apps/OS do, but not the RAM.
Now, my battery on my O6 seems quite good. I say "seems" because I don't have any standby drain, I lost 4% during the night, so I think it's pretty good. But yesterday I lost more than 20% just using 5mins the GPS and reading a webpage in the subway. Weird.
Now I think it's because I still haven't done enough charge/discharge cycles, my O6 is only a week old, so... We'll see.
7 hours sleep = 2% - amazing! wifi/bt/sync on
I can add to the list WiFi scanning, black Mode, reboot from time to time, get tile extension from Google Play and add manual Sync button in quick settings to choose, when to sync manually. I blocked usage access for Google Play, Google etc as well.
Having dual sim is also using more battery, so if you dont need it, dont use it.
In bad reception area switch from 4g to 3g - the connection should be fine and battery will Thank you.
From time to time - take a look at running processes in developer settings. Should give you an idea, what might cause you a problem.
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7h Sleep = 15% battery drain. Consistently.
Wifi ON and Dual SIM with good network on both.
Sucks....
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Update from my last post:
With WIFI + Network ON (Dual SIM), overnight idle = ~15% in 7hrs drain.
With WIFI OFF + Network ON (Dual SIM), overnight idle = ~12% in 7hrs drain (very similiar).
Notice the screenshot I'm attaching:
1) Wi-Fi is saying on, when it was disabled!
2) Awake time is minimal (OK)
3) Network is at yellow.. but when I had WIFI + NETWORK I got green. Exactly same location by my bed.. weird.
Turn off WiFi scanning. When its on, during the day i can get to 7% of battery use because of WiFi on. When you Turn off scanning, it goes down to 1-2%. Check - might be good solution.