When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the OnePlus 6's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
This is my first op phone. Since what i ve heard and what i recieve is comparitively low
For me it's quite high as it was with the 3t. Feel like there is almost no difference to when using the phone
at night its 1%/h yet i am after first charge
For me 9hrs sleep = 18% battery drain
7h Sleep = 15% battery drain. Consistently.
Wifi ON and Dual SIM with good network on both.
Sucks....
From what's being said here, it sounds similar to my OP3. Probably the biggest weakness of One Plus phones. If only they could poach the battery wizard from Huawei. :angel:
Yeah this is my biggest concern right now.
I've had around seven hours SoT during the weekend which is OK, but using it sparingly at work today has resulted in around 1hr SoT and yet 48% battery drain.
That just doesn't add up, right?
I'm within my 14 day return window so may just cut my losses rather than hope OP improve matters somehow.
Shame, because I liked the phone otherwise.
I haven't measured exact numbers, but standby drain is higher than I expected
Zero drain over night with the airplane Mode.
It has been around 3-4% per hour for me today.
I am extremely happy with my OP6 standby drain. Here is my graph with 2 days and 5 hours of stand-by while also getting 6 hours of SOT (mostly web browsing, no games though). It's insane, really The phone was never in airplane mode or other abnormal things. Not rooted, 100% stock, with some disabled apps like Google Drive, Google App, etc. (not using them).
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I am extremely happy with my OP6 standby drain. Here is my graph with 2 days and 5 hours of stand-by while also getting 6 hours of SOT (mostly web browsing, no games though). It's insane, really The phone was never in airplane mode or other abnormal things. Not rooted, 100% stock, with some disabled apps like Google Drive, Google App, etc. (not using them).
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That seems incredible to me...can I ask if there any settings such as location or screen brightness you changed? Surely it can't just be Google apps causing battery drain?
Admittedly I have two Google accounts hooked up which can't be helping!
Well...I have posted another screenshot, maybe this makes it more credible ? I also have 2 Google accounts that are syncing normally. For me, turning off data, turning off sync or turning on airplane mode doesn't count as a method to save battery.
Here are some things that I do to improve battery life:
- I opt out of all "send diagnostic information" checkboxes. It's easy to realize how these reduce battery
- For Google accounts, I disable all syncing except "Gmail" and maybe "Contacts". Google Drive, Google Photos are disabled
- No OnePlus account entered (who knows what and how often they send if you use this...)
- I do not use any social media apps (but do use Whatsapp), I only use Facebook from the browser
- Location is off
- I deny access to Location for all apps except Waze and Maps.
- Face Unlock is off (I have noticed it drains battery, turns on front camera very often - obviously). I am using Smart Lock with my Bluetooth Pebble watch to keep phone unlocked.
- I use Microsoft Apps instead of Google apps whenever possible (Outlook instead of Gmail - it's better anyway)
- I use Samsung Internet Browser (beta) instead of Chrome (I have very good experience with this browser - it's really fast and efficient).
- I have specifically chosen the 6GB of RAM model thinking that there are less chips to power.
Thank you, some very good tips there. I'll give some of them a go and see what happens.
Surely the 6Gb can't make that much difference to battery life? Interesting to see what model other people with decent battery life have.
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Well...I have posted another screenshot, maybe this makes it more credible ? I also have 2 Google accounts that are syncing normally. For me, turning off data or turning on airplane mode doesn't count as a method to save battery.
Here are some things that I do to improve battery life:
- I opt out of all "send diagnostic information" checkboxes. It's easy to realize how these reduce battery
- For Google accounts, I disable all syncing except "Gmail" and maybe "Contacts". Google Drive, Google Photos are disabled
- No OnePlus account entered (who knows what and how often they send if you use this...)
- I do not use any social media apps (but do use Whatsapp), I only use Facebook from the browser
- Location is off
- I deny access to Location for all apps except Waze and Maps.
- Face Unlock is off (I have noticed it drains battery, turns on front camera very often - obviously). I am using Smart Lock with my Bluetooth Pebble watch to keep phone unlocked.
- I use Microsoft Apps instead of Google apps whenever possible (Outlook instead of Gmail - it's better anyway)
- I have specifically chosen the 6GB of RAM model thinking that there are less chips to power.
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Good advices indeed
but quite restritive, don't you think?
I wonder if the users who have a good SOT have restricted all the applications and the syncing that you did.
I send my diagnotics because I think and hope that they might be useful to get better OSes and better hardware.
My location is set to on, but only the basic one.
I allow some apps to have my location because sometimes, they give me good advices
Face Unlock is on, it's such a great feature, can't live without it now
I really don't think there is a difference between 4/6/8 GB RAM. RAM doesn't eat battery life, the apps/OS do, but not the RAM.
Now, my battery on my O6 seems quite good. I say "seems" because I don't have any standby drain, I lost 4% during the night, so I think it's pretty good. But yesterday I lost more than 20% just using 5mins the GPS and reading a webpage in the subway. Weird.
Now I think it's because I still haven't done enough charge/discharge cycles, my O6 is only a week old, so... We'll see.
7 hours sleep = 2% - amazing! wifi/bt/sync on
I can add to the list WiFi scanning, black Mode, reboot from time to time, get tile extension from Google Play and add manual Sync button in quick settings to choose, when to sync manually. I blocked usage access for Google Play, Google etc as well.
Having dual sim is also using more battery, so if you dont need it, dont use it.
In bad reception area switch from 4g to 3g - the connection should be fine and battery will Thank you.
From time to time - take a look at running processes in developer settings. Should give you an idea, what might cause you a problem.
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7h Sleep = 15% battery drain. Consistently.
Wifi ON and Dual SIM with good network on both.
Sucks....
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Update from my last post:
With WIFI + Network ON (Dual SIM), overnight idle = ~15% in 7hrs drain.
With WIFI OFF + Network ON (Dual SIM), overnight idle = ~12% in 7hrs drain (very similiar).
Notice the screenshot I'm attaching:
1) Wi-Fi is saying on, when it was disabled!
2) Awake time is minimal (OK)
3) Network is at yellow.. but when I had WIFI + NETWORK I got green. Exactly same location by my bed.. weird.
Turn off WiFi scanning. When its on, during the day i can get to 7% of battery use because of WiFi on. When you Turn off scanning, it goes down to 1-2%. Check - might be good solution.
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I've had the HTC Aria for about four days now and my biggest issues is the battery drains to quickly. At first I attributed it to use because android phones prompt you to use them more often. However, even without use it still drains pretty rapidly. Does anyone know of a solution to this issue software wise. I have already turned off Bluetooth, GPS and Wifi. Are there other solutions
I got mine on Saturday, and I've actually gotten pretty good battery life out of it. I'm still in the habit of charging it every night, like I had to do with my old WinMo phone, but I think I could probably go two days without a charge. And that's with GPS / data always on, Wifi parts of the day, and pretty heavy use, since I'm always playing with it.
Have you tried something like Advanced Task Killer to keep apps closed that you aren't using? You can also adjust your screen brightness and timeout to try and save power.
It says that of my power is used by cellular idle or something like that 50% of it was used by that. Could it be my AT&T service
I don't get more than 10 hours out of mine. When I know I will be out all day, I turn the screen brightness almost all the way down to help conserve energy.
Good as it Gets.
With basic usage (some texting, a few calls and some market browsing or playing a game here and there) about 2 to 2.5 days without charging. Maybe the ones having issues with there phone sucking battery have to many widgets running.
In my current configuration I am only using 3 of my screens and only 3 widgets [favorites (small one), HTC clock/weather widget, and the HTC calendar widget (small)]. I have my work email checking every 30 minutes for syncing. I also have gmail and the default mail app pulling mail. I run ATK but only to kill apps on startup (cause it runs almost everything), other than that you don't need a task killer as you will have to reload these tasks next time and that will drain battery. I don't use it after that to kill anything. I am also running my screen at about 30% brightness.
Just some tips, widgets are nice, but they suck the battery life as well as constant updates. Check to see what you are running and disable/remove what is not needed or adjust sync times.
My battery life is fine. I got two days over the weekend with light usage. You need to look at what services are running and disable any widgets that you dont need. You may also want to look at the sync settings and turn off things you dont use (such as news). You do not need a task killer.
Also, see this post:
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some quick tips:
1) disable market notifications - Market -> Downloads -> Notifications -> 'Don't Notify Me
2) Lower the sync times for your social network apps like twitter and facebook (or make them manual)
If you still suffer, have a look at some of the great tips HERE on the Cyanogenmod forums...ignore 1 and 3.
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Also one might do *#*#4636#*#* then change phone setting from WCDMA to GSM .... Then that get little more out of battery...
It's critical that you turn off auto-sync; I have found that it absolutely destroys battery life.
Before I was losing maybe 5-10% every hour on standby, but ever since turning off auto-sync, I'm still sitting at 100% battery after 5 hours of standby.
Turning off mobile data/Wi-Fi doesn't make an impact on battery life, in my experience.
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It's critical that you turn off auto-sync if you don't want update to happen, such as Facebook, email, google account (cal/contact) sync, etc..; I have found that it absolutely destroys battery life.
Before I was losing maybe 5-10% every hour on standby, but ever since turning off auto-sync, I'm still sitting at 100% battery after 5 hours of standby.
Turning off mobile data/Wi-Fi doesn't make an impact on battery life, in my experience.
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I edited your response..
Auto-Sync in itself is not going to be a problem.. Depends on what's syncing. EVERYONE will have different battery life because everyone uses their phones differently. Different configurations, different accounts used, different amounts of traffic on those accounts, not to mention actual usage patterns.
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I edited your response..
Auto-Sync in itself is not going to be a problem.. Depends on what's syncing. EVERYONE will have different battery life because everyone uses their phones differently. Different configurations, different accounts used, different amounts of traffic on those accounts, not to mention actual usage patterns.
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90% of people will have *slightly* different battery life.
5% of people will drain it fast.
5% will use it like a voice phone and might even get 16 hrs out of it.
But to turn off all apps makes for an invalid test because then you're testing the phone as if it were a non-smartphone, like a voice only phone.
I think the battery is too small for me and probably too small for most people. I look forward to fat batteries for this great phone.
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90% of people will have *slightly* different battery life.
5% of people will drain it fast.
5% will use it like a voice phone and might even get 16 hrs out of it.
But to turn off all apps makes for an invalid test because then you're testing the phone as if it were a non-smartphone, like a voice only phone.
I think the battery is too small for me and probably too small for most people. I look forward to fat batteries for this great phone.
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My wife gets 2+ days out of hers... The battery is not that much smaller than my Nexus One, a more powerful phone, and I'm a power user with a lot of crap running including IMAP push mail, weather syncing... I look in at Market, Facebook, Twitter and manually sync those types of things etc.. I can easily get a full day out of it, off charger ~8am back on the charger midnight, 20-30% left. What I don't do is sit staring at my phone all day or play games for 8 hours at work, nor do I use it as a mp3 player..
I've tried everything now with differing results. Nothing really seems to make that much difference, be it Cm10.1 with Faux or Franco or stock.
What I have noticed though is I don't think the screens as much to blame as a lot of people think
I used it last night at home on wifi, got 1:30 worth of screen use at the cost of 25% of the battery (which i think is more than reasonable )
Whereas on the train yesterday I had music on and browsed the web and lost 40% in an hour. I mean that's horrendous really.
It appears that data over 3g and music (god knows why music is such a drain) are the real culprits here, so i'm praying that the techies at google manage to figure out better battery management.
use betterbatterystats and ensure your phone has no wakelocks and is properly deep sleeping.
also,
1. google maps: disable google latitude (automatic reporting of your location)
2. genie widget (news & weather) change its refresh interval
3. dont use bad apps like facebook which is known to use ur GPS significantly
4. disable google now cards you dont use
Hiya
Thanks for this
to be honest the drain when asleep isnt that bad, 1% every two hours or so .... like i say it's when the phone is in use and receiving data / playing music !!!
The SoC and the Radio are the biggest battery hogs in any modern smartphone.
The display would come in close after them, though.
Get your CPU and network load down, and you'll see a bigger improvement than turning the screen brightness down
gsusx said:
Hiya
Thanks for this
to be honest the drain when asleep isnt that bad, 1% every two hours or so .... like i say it's when the phone is in use and receiving data / playing music !!!
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It's been said because it's known that 3G/HSPA uses power like a mofo so it's "normal" - Using wifi will always have better results because of the faster data the CPU can go to sleep sooner as well.
hi
great thanks for replies
do you reckon it's something they might ever be able to fix though .... seems a shame for such a great phone to hampered with such bad battery issues
Doubt it as it's just the nature of the beast. Look up any device out there and you'll see they get longer battery life when using WIFI vs mobile data.
Hey guys, so ive had my nexus 4 for around 4 months now? might be more and the battery is just terrible, obviously we already know this as ive seen so many people post about it and such
my question is this, what do you guys use to save battery? Im currently on XYLON ROM with Perf-enhanced-Stock-422 kernel which isnt bad, theres nothing wrong with it in fact but i literally only get around 2 hours screen on time, terrible i know
ive heard people say flash android 4.2.2 and then flash a custom rom, apparently it helps or something? not fact but ive seen a few people solve it with this issue
What kind of roms and kernels are you guys using? And what governor?
Cheers guys, Jack
I've seen most people running Franco kernel with either cyanogen mod 10.1, PAC or paranoid android. You'll probably get a similar battery life with all of them, and probably the best your going to get.
Check your wake locks, use juice defender, check you're not dropping in and out of signal (hammers battery), turn of location settings...
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AKOP or CM with franco give me hours (4+) of calling or 1.5 days of moderate use.
I also have notification widgets on so I can quickly switch BT/WIFI/Brightness AND I make use of nfc tags so when I'm home wifi is auto turned on and when in the car it turns off.
From my experience, these battery saving apps such as juice defender are not good, you shouldn't use them.
About the battery life, there are tons of recommendations... stop syncing, turn brightness to as low as possible, turn off 3G when you don't need it...
Dont use your phone..
Seriously now, the battery is not bad at all, and in battery usage cases you need to state your usage of the phone (games, mail, 3g on most of the time? widgets? surfing and screen on time)
Without those parameters none can determine if you have wakelocks problem / some app is draining your battery or eventually maybe it's only psychological problem
Take in mind even on auto brightness, if you are playing heavy games dont expect to last a day or so..
Tricepz is on the money!
Need to analyze Your usage!
Most importantly you need to understand that this is not a primary game console or music player.
Things that drain battery fast!
1) Live Wallpaper
2) Games
3) Phone calls
4) Equalizers
5) Apps
Best to monitor your usage!
Personally I use the phone as follows for 16 to 22 hrs of usage.
Bus
1) 4 hrs of music with quality headphones that have noise canceling tech. Abel Planet 200b with built in amplifier.
2) 3 phone calls a day!
3) No games ! Have a tablet for that
4) Minimal reader for new feeds only updates once a day.
5) Music app either Apollo or NexMusic great music players without equalizer. simple controls.
On an average day headed to work paying bills I see 10 to 12 hrs easy.
Busy day on my phone 8 to 10 hrs.
Turn off services you don't need or use.
WIFI - Turn it off when you leave your house and when you don't need it. Leaving it on will drain power as it will continue to scan for a connection.
GPS - Turn off your GPS if you don't need.
Sync - Sync when you need to. Turn it off and access it manually.
Bluetooth - Turn it off when you don't need it
Location services - Go to the Settings menu and head over to Location access and switch "Access to my location" to off.
Backup services - Head over "Backup & Reset" and uncheck "Back up my data".
Screen brightness - The lower the brightness, the more power you'll save.
Apps - Applications like facebook and Google Maps will remain online as it runs in the background. As a result it will drain your battery. It can prevent your phone from entering deep-sleep to preserve power.
Signal - Connection is very important. If you're in a area where service is low to poor, your phone will draw more power to stay connected to the nearest cell antenna/tower. It's best to turn off on connections if you're in a no service area. Simply put the phone in "Airplane mode".
Usage - Battery life is dependent to whatever tasks you are performing on your phone. If you play games daily for a long period of time, then you should expect the battery to decrease dramatically. Conversely, if you just email, text, browse the web, make calls, little to no games then your battery life of the phone should last for quite a long time.
Useful apps
Greenify - This application allows you to hibernate apps from starting up like facebook, Google Maps and many more annoying apps that run in the background when they shouldn't be running. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Wakelock Detector - This wonderful app identifies apps that running during your usage and sees which one has been running the longest without your consent. You can use this with Greenify. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.
BetteryBatteryStats - Similar to wakelock detector but offers a more in-depth look of wakelocks that active during your usage. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLmFza3N2ZW4uYmV0dGVyYmF0dGVyeXN0YXRzIl0.
Kernels and roms
One major reason why root is amazing. Kernels offer tweaks that are beneficial for the phone to perform smoother and offer amazing battery life. Offers more tweaks as well like gamma and undervolting. Roms can contribute a small portion of battery saving but not much.
Did I miss anything else?
Adding Maps to Greenify usually helps a lot regarding battery life, can leave GPS on for other apps when doing this and won't suck any battery.
try franco or faux and then UV and UO ` its works for me, 4+ screen time easily :fingers-crossed:
I didnt expect so many comments! ive used franko kernel and air kernel before and no change
ill try some of them apps that everyone has mentioned
again thanks guys! Jack
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
rskyline said:
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
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I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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Yep definitely something's not right, facebook is known to be a battery drainer, i suggest to you that open it up on the browser and uninstall the app, try it!
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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With 80% left I have 1hr of screen on and 10mins of call time, this is with whatever kernel the latest CM nightly is using, so yeah you could definitely get better but I have to think facebook is the contributor since I too have twitter (plume) and tumblr without the same battery drain.
greenify is a must to disable rude apps which do thing without asking, like facebook, games, etc, they connect to internet to download ads and sttuff, facebook being the worse cpu eater
i use 2g only, wify in home, disable wifi outside,
only wassap active, some opera mini browsing, pics, talk, sms, little gaming, i get 1.5 days
off course heavy gaming kills the battery, because of 3d, even 2d games drain the battery because of the screen, like angry birds
using stock 422 + franco
I like to use JuiceDefender only when the phone's battery gets really low and I want to sacrifice some functionality. It works well, but only if you allow it to keep 3G/Wifi off when the screen is off.
I use facebook so much though, ugh :/ ill give it a go and if the battery lasts longer then ill get rid of it
single biggest difference I've seen is to stay on wifi all the time as much as possible. I leave it on no matter what. Granted if you are out and about, it won't help but once you get to home/work/friends/etc, your phone will immediately connect and start saving you juice.
91% after 8 hours with light usage at work. With 3G, I normally would be approaching 60-70% by now with light usage. That 3G drain is real and should be avoided whenever possible.
Don't play games. It seems like no matter what game I play, it'll almost always lock my cpu to the max frequency until I exit. Even really simple non graphics intense games.
Well ideally you're biggest battery drainer should be the the display. If it's not then read below.
1) So for the screen the best way to go is to get a stable custom rom like xenon and tinker with the auto brightness settings. Tweak out auto brightness settings to your liking (they're generally very overbright by default) and you'll see major increases in data.
2) Screen aside your other biggest drainer is cell radio. Particularly if you're in a low signal area it will drain your battery really fast. So if your using wifi anyway be sure to turn data off and switch to 2g. That way you'll have a strong signal and 2g drains less battery anyway.
3) As some people have mentioned already. rogue apps. Social networking apps are a huge drainer in this regard. Especially facebook. You just can't have that app on your phone and get decent battery. As for other apps which draw on unnecessary background data, Greenify their a**es.
Hi
First of, to the mods. I know this belong in the battery thread, but I want to et out to as many that complain about the battery as possible, so people can get the battery life they should.
The problem with battery is bloatware and wakelocks. I'm gone from 80% deep sleep to 95%+ by flashing XtreStoLite. I lose less than a % over a night (10 hours). My Wakelocks is less than a % and 2% on a bad day.
After i flashed XtreStoLite my battery life got almost doubled. I have same apps installed as before besides all the bloatware. Only a few must have samsung apps.
Before this I barely hit 4 hours sot on mobile data and now I easy get 5 and 8+ on wifi.
After the rom and all the apps are installed, install greenify and hibernate all the apps that you don't need push notifications on. The first few days check greenify to cut off wake up paths. I have greenified every single app besides messenger.
Last thing is disable services. With the app disable services.
com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.Analytics Service
com.google.android.gms/com.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManage rService(Location Service) I have found out that it will not allow you to change settings on your wear if disabled or sync watch faces or their settings. So if I get a new watch face I just enable it again, configure the face and disable the service again afterwards.
com.android.gms.Feedback.FeedbackService(Breaks Play Games)
com.android.gms.ads.AdRequestBrokerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocatio nService(Location Service)
com.google.android.location.geofencer.service.Geof encerProviderService(GPS Service)
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.copresence.service.Pro ximitySettingInjectorService
com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
com.facebook.orca/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
If you know what you're doing you can disable from more apps.
Last, remember to backup!
Feel free to ask any questions you may have!
Whats your standby time though?
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Whats your standby time though?
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Well, only had it for a few days. Got 16 hours yesterday with 61% left. With high usage (5+ hours SOT, so that decrease standby time by a bit)
It's the standby time that mainly increased doing this. I just checked my Partial Wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and they're all showing 0%.
Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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It's working "fine". Just longer to set location first time. I think the reason Google Play Services is running rampant, is because it's getting our location all the time with Mobile data (google services is under control on Wifi).
So yeah, works fine. Just takes a little longer to get loc.
So basically you'll need to trip knox for this?
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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So basically you'll need to trip knox for this?
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Yeah. It sucks it's Samsungs bloatware which ruins the experience, but well the hardware (and software) is capable of way better battery than most people are getting.
tiagovale2 said:
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
I hope we het xposed soon, with xposed it is dat easier to control these wakelocks
Faspaiso said:
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
tiagovale2 said:
So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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how do you make a s6 go to 3g
Tests prove 3g consumes more energy than 4g, it van (re)-establish connection faster and transfers data faster
Faspaiso said:
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
As I already have 20+ h on battery and 6+ SOT it will be interesting for me to try some of your tips.
madnav said:
Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
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I can try it tomorrow! Will give a review before go to bed tomorrow then!
Simplyeduardo said:
how do you make a s6 go to 3g
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Mobile data settings.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Moto Z2 Force before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I haven't been able to just drain the battery with this screen time from full to 80% in battery saver mode trying to get every drop out of the phone. This wasn't heavy gaming or CPU intensive stuff, just YouTube and some social media. Still great time compared to the sot of my M9
4 hours on the first full drain.
I've managed to get from 100% to 8% with screen on time being about 5 and a half hours with only using the battery saving from 15% I'd add my screen shot but I'm unsure how you add them on here
Okay but I've been listening to music since 7:00 this morning and I'm at 53% now ( it's 4:00 so it's been about 9 hours )
IDK if this helped me at all but I used root booster and used stability boost
4 hours and 5mins for my first full drain using all features in Greenify with aggressive doze. Also have L Speed installed suing it's balanced profile.
I've hit 5hrs SOT for my 1st three days of owning this device in a row.
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.
On the homescreen on stock launcher:
Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.
On the system menu:
Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.
Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.
Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...
After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.
I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.
There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
crazy1990 said:
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.
On the homescreen on stock launcher:
Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.
On the system menu:
Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.
Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.
Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...
After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.
I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.
There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
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Thank you so much. You cannot believe how drastically my battery life improved. I was barely getting 2 and half screen on time. You are a savior. Thanks again.
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sastheayubian said:
Thank you so much. You cannot believe how drastically my battery life improved. I was barely getting 2 and half screen on time. You are a savior. Thanks again.
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No problem. Glad to help.
crazy1990 said:
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.
On the homescreen on stock launcher:
Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.
On the system menu:
Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.
Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.
Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...
After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.
I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.
There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
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Thank you very much, I just bought my phone and was a little disappointed with battery life, GPS is a real battery drainer.
i kinda wish active use went into battery stats, because i stream podcasts and music all day at work, at the end of my day my phone is somewhere around 40% and only has like 2hrs of SOT but has been on "standby" for close to 18-20 hours by the time i plug it in at night
Great SOT
I'm very happy with this phone, durable, slim, blazing fast and modular.
For one of the thinnest phone with SD835 im very pleased with battery life.
Screenshot with Oreo Update
Normal use, spotify for an hour or so, a lot of instagram, some facebook and twitter, and Youtube over bluetooth on my car, moderate web browsing without using battery saver and remaining 8% of battery
I have over 7h sot by watching videos, playing music and messaging by using 5GHz Wifi, mobile network in standby. Rest of battery by 25%.
Here screenshot, hope it's working now. Have do it convert to jpg.
Ok, don't work. But, 7h, 13m is the sot.
This phone inpressed me with SOT! I owned a Moto Z and battrey was a dissapointment. While this has a 2750mah battrey it cant be much better than this!Planning to buy a powermod but now its not needed:angel:
Getting 8Hrs+ SOT on Oreo :laugh:
Sent from my Moto Z2 Force using XDA Labs
Yes, it's great. Much better as on my old phone. Sure the 10nm chip is here very helpful. And the OLED panel, which is much better as just Full HD. I see a big difference between just 400dpi and this. Watching film on this, so important. I'm short-sighted, so I can really see it. My battery had 2733mAh at the beginning and now 2705mAh after last security update. What's you capacity?
allrightlite said:
My battery had 2733mAh at the beginning and now 2705mAh after last security update. What's you capacity?
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How to check ..?
Sent from my Moto Z2 Force using XDA Labs
For example with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.devcheck
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How to check ..?
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Screen on time is excellent! I'm quite surprised and impressed because the phone's battery isn't that large.
Regularly getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT!
My highscore: 6:58 :laugh: