Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.
I accidently ota to mk2 from mf3 and re rooted with the mj6 method on att s4
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jsgates said:
I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.
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Take a chill pill bro. This phone is still better than an iPhone. There is a safe root method now so no need to use survival mode just have to find a way to get to 4.3 which is all over the discussion boards.
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Alright, to start off, I apologize if there is a thread already on this (I searched but couldn't find anything).
I am a complete noob at rooting and don't know much about it. I plan on rooting my Nexus 7 in order to get Stickmount for additional storage on my device. My worry isn't about that, after I root it, how easy will it be to update it when a update for the Nexus 7 is released? I heard of stuff like flashing a rom with a updated software or flashing a modified firmware. Will tutorials be available for this when the time comes?
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Alright, to start off, I apologize if there is a thread already on this (I searched but couldn't find anything).
I am a complete noob at rooting and don't know much about it. I plan on rooting my Nexus 7 in order to get Stickmount for additional storage on my device. My worry isn't about that, after I root it, how easy will it be to update it when a update for the Nexus 7 is released? I heard of stuff like flashing a rom with a updated software or flashing a modified firmware. Will tutorials be available for this when the time comes?
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After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
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After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
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i can confirm this works.
i tested out a few different scenarios last night.
booted up device, ran update, unlocked bootloader, put bad boot.img on
restored to factory, rooted, booted, used OTA Keeper, ran update, rebooted and root was gone. ran OTA Keeper to restore and BAM! root was back
hic9582 said:
After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
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I just looked up that app, it seems it's already integrated into SuperSu (that's the one I'm planning on getting). I just want to know if it's easy or not to upgrade the device once it's rooted.
OTA rootkeeper is on super Su ???
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OTA rootkeeper is on super Su ???
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"The application doesn't support original Superuser and not SuperSU for a very simple reason. The same feature OTA protection feature is already present in SuperSU."
That's what it said on the app overview section.
SuperSU Premium has it and it worked for me on my T-Mobile G2x when I updated to new OTA. Don't know if free version has it
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I'm a noob to this type of stuff so if free SuperSU DOES have the OTA rootkeeper, does that mean I can update my device without any trouble?
If it doesn't, what methods can I take to update it without causing any damage?
Pretty sure its only in the paid version its called survival mode
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OP: You should calm down. I mean that in the nicest way possible. This is a Nexus device. You can unlock your device anytime you want. You can simple re-root if you happen to lose root, there well always be a method. If you like to be on stock, you can just flash the updated stock firmware. Chances are someone will pack a nice stock rooted firmware within a couple hours of it being released, possibly before you even get a notification that there is a new update.
Sorry if I came out as panicky, it's just that I never did this before so I don't know what's right from wrong. Well I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually, thanks for the help.
Anyone knows if I can update to official 4.3 TW whenever it becomes available after rooting MF3?
Or would I have to unroot (which I think is not possible for now)?
I am pretty happy with TW 4.2 and would like to root it to use greenify and other root required apps, but not at the cost of losing
the ability to update to stock 4.3.
I'd imagine you could update but it would make you lose root.
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I'd imagine you could update but it would make you lose root.
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That would be fine with me as long as I can get to official 4.3 since I know sooner or later root would be achieved again,
and even if it could not, I'd rather have the update.
poncespr said:
That would be fine with me as long as I can get to official 4.3 since I know sooner or later root would be achieved again,
and even if it could not, I'd rather have the update.
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I don't think there's any guarantee about it, unfortunately. Sometimes you do have to unroot in order for the OTA to go through...and if there is still no possible way to unroot when the OTA comes around, you risk having that issue. I do wonder whether the temp unroot feature in Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would work on MF3 right now...maybe someone rooted on MF3 can test it and see if their device shows no root.
Anyways, I personally recommend everyone stay away from MF3 rooting...especially if you are not very aware of exactly what the consequences are. The fact that there is no unroot should be enough to keep most people away, but I think most don't even realize that fact.
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I don't think there's any guarantee about it, unfortunately. Sometimes you do have to unroot in order for the OTA to go through...and if there is still no possible way to unroot when the OTA comes around, you risk having that issue. I do wonder whether the temp unroot feature in Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would work on MF3 right now...maybe someone rooted on MF3 can test it and see if their device shows no root.
Anyways, I personally recommend everyone stay away from MF3 rooting...especially if you are not very aware of exactly what the consequences are. The fact that there is no unroot should be enough to keep most people away, but I think most don't even realize that fact.
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That is exactly the reason why I have not rooted yet and thus the question just in case any one here knew for sure.
For now I will noot root and I may even switch to a Tmo or international S4 if I get the chance.
The way most updates are, if you have root then you'd have to unroot (flash stock or temp unroot) and if you've modified system files it won't go through, meaning MF3 root is risky if you want to still update until they put out firmware.
Could not resist all the bloatware, and not being able to use greenify and all the root requiring goodies. Soooo....:silly:
I rooted and removed bloatware, greenified, and very happy.
I guess sooner or later we will be able to install custom roms, including TW 4.3, even if it is not an official version.
Greetings XDA,
Recently my AT&T Galaxy S4 took the MF3 update without my permission.
Questions I have:
1. Is it possible to remove this update?
2. Is it possible to unroot the S4 with this update?
3. How limited does this update make my device?
it's also worth mentioning I've had issues with getting audio in basic phone calls.
p.s Thank you for reading and responding,
-Nightfrost-
Nightfrost95 said:
Greetings XDA,
1. Is it possible to remove this update?
2. Is it possible to unroot the S4 with this update?
3. How limited does this update make my device?
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1. No, as of right now, there is no way to downgrade from MF3
2. Unroot, I don't believe so. Root, yes. Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473747
3. Pretty limited, at least as far as custom ROMs go. You can only install TW based ROMs for right now. You can still do all the awesome stuff that a normal rooted phone can do, but if you screw something up, there's no way to flash a clean, stock version of TW without taking it to Best Buy and having them restore it.
Have you tried supersu and triangle away it. Supersu has the option to full unroot after you use triangle away.
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DO NOT USE TRIANGLE AWAY ON MF3.
I flashes a temporary recovery.
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Just getting an idea of others decisions on wether or not to update to MJ7.
I personally dont see a reason NOT to do it as safestrap is out for our phone already. If you are waiting for an unlocked bootloader and that is your reason for staying on MI9...just curious why.
Im still on MI9 myself but not because I dont want to do the root process again etc. I havent updated because Im lazy and I have my phone setup the way I like with Wanam and viper sound...and 4.4 launcher and stuff. As well as the MMS apk that has the feature to keep screen off when recieving a message. I guess being lazy if you would call it that.
So...what do you all think...to update or not to update...that is the question.
I updated and the only difference that I see is the fact I lost root
oh well..I just ODIN'd MJ7 and rooted using Kingo...then installed SS...SS recovery...flashed SuperSU 1.65...rebooted. Now bout to flash Guntherm's hotspot zip.
Then debloat...then do my wanam...xposed...and viper sound and 4.4 launcher and stuff like it was before on MI9.
MJ7 seems to have improved the reliability of my data network access. I was having issues where voice/text were working but got no data in some areas. More testing is needed, though.
You can keep root by taking the ota and using root survival in Superuser/super su
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moah909 said:
You can keep root by taking the ota and using root survival in Superuser/super su
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That does not work for 1/2 the people who tried it.
I would stay on I9 with root, Install SafeStrap, then Flash Beans Stock Deodexed J7 in SS recovery. Then Odin the latest J7 radio, now you should be on the latest without losing Root.
Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Probably not a good idea to take the update. I'd wait until our trusty devs get ahold of the OTA and do their magic.
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
lackdog said:
Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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That might just of been the best error ever, especially if you use root a lot. No way to go back and no known, released root at the moment for that version. Like above me has said, try flashing the NK1 modem using Odin and see if that improves your signal any.
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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If you want the benefits "fixes" of the latest, would be be smart to Odin stock so you are clean when you take the OTA.
lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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how to track 4.4.4 rooting progress?
donc113 said:
You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Marlon1691 said:
I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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It likely is possible to update and keep root. But if after updating you screw up a mod, etc. and need to get back to stock you will lose root permanently.
flashing modem
leroybrute said:
Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
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Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
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There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
Odin 3.09
leroybrute said:
There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
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Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
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You need to put your phone in download mode before plugging into pc. Make sure debugging is checked in developer settings.
Thanks…
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
tjmethod said:
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
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No, I thank you... Ha
GoNavyMike said:
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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GoNavyMike said:
Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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That is why you should always tell them you are on the latest firmware
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I read about 4.4.4 and didn't like what they took away from 4.4.2. I won't go to it. If I were you I'd 'towelroot'- (get the simple steps on xda), and 'beanstown 106' has all the firmwares for these phones, put the nc4 on w/ 4.4.2, then install biggins rom v7, then upgrade via dirty flash with 8.0 then immediately w/ 8.3- fast touch response and after about 3-4 days, you'lI be getting twice the battery life… I jumped up to the new v9 but they dont have the theme for it yet. I miss the Kromex blue on black…