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In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?
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I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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Willey1986 said:
If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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So far I've seen lots and lots of people complaining about the touchscreen malfunctioning on the Z1, saying that this is a hardware problem and thinking of buying a Note 3 and G2... But then, you maybe have never knew, that almost all the other phones out there have the same problem as we do.
LG's G2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAP5iL_xamY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=19u8qo8-ACU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLnRZyKAL1M
Samsung's Note 3 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUC7tnwmj5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQpFZ0PATo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEdIVv4Sup0
As for the Nexus 5, I have not seen any videos that suggest that it has the touchscreen problem,
But this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XEvM2nGRmk
I think that all these manufacturers such as Samsung, LG, Sony, etc... Use the same Sypnatics touch digitizer.
Please don't criticise my post too badly if it's stupid, I'm just trying to help everyone
EDIT : For Xperia Z1 it's worse maybe because of the Aluminum frame...
Hey guys I have a tip for ya'll who have the touchscreen problem, go to Settings > Launguage and Input > Scroll down the pointer speed and make it to the slowest. It has lessened the touchscreen bug from happening for my device. Hope this helps
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Hey guys I have a tip for ya'll who have the touchscreen problem, go to Settings > Launguage and Input > Scroll down the pointer speed and make it to the slowest. It has lessened the touchscreen bug from happening for my device. Hope this helps
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Hope this works, I saw a post in sony forum suggesting this method also. Well I hope our problem gets fixed in the 4.3 update. It will be a good Christmas gift
OT: Just read xperiablog and it seems a z1 refresh is going to be announced in CES with the mini.
I love good new. :fingers-crossed:
It exists on my Nexus 7 2013 too.
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I just tried that sketch test, and... DAMN!!!
I don't have that issue either...
That made me think...
Guys, can it perhaps in at least some instances be bugs in the sketch software and not faulty hardware?
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Maybe it's an issue for all S800 devices
@[email protected] said:
Hey guys I have a tip for ya'll who have the touchscreen problem, go to Settings > Launguage and Input > Scroll down the pointer speed and make it to the slowest. It has lessened the touchscreen bug from happening for my device. Hope this helps
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I did that and not much improvement. I still have problem to open my phone with patterns so I can't said about any improvement but still hope for an solution with the update, hope for gift christmas. I already wrote a letter to Santa Claus.
Gg nice post, ao people get some prespective. Z1 is an awsome device, damnit 6 hours brilliant screen time on a 5inch Fhd, i've seen battery report from g2 averege is 4.5 hours like ours, and can get to 7 with power savings. Z1 rocks
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BreakShadow said:
It exists on my Nexus 7 2013 too.
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are you on 4.4 kitkat? it seems that the n7 2013 touch problem is not solved through software update...
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are you on 4.4 kitkat? it seems that the n7 2013 touch problem is not solved through software update...
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Come on, dude. Don't be so pessimistic! Do I have to write a letter to Santa Claus for you too?
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Come on, dude. Don't be so pessimistic! Do I have to write a letter to Santa Claus for you too?
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Just wrote a long letter to Santa too.. I hope this problem gets sorted out
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Come on, dude. Don't be so pessimistic! Do I have to write a letter to Santa Claus for you too?
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Screen problem is hardware problem due to aluminum frame. Screen can't be fixed by update... If you wanna fix screen problem... sell your phone.
Vaith said:
Screen problem is hardware problem due to aluminum frame. Screen can't be fixed by update... If you wanna fix screen problem... sell your phone.
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Any proof for that? I might fully believe that since xperia SP also has the same problem both have aluminum built.
HTC one also is made of aluminum. My Final solution really is to sell the phone but in the even that there can be some possible fixes to reduce or completely remove the problem then it's great. Maybe hardware remedies or software. For now I'll just wait and see what 4.3 will bring.
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Screen problem is hardware problem due to aluminum frame. Screen can't be fixed by update... If you wanna fix screen problem... sell your phone.
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Not really sure about that, on mine there is no such thing influenced by the aluminum frame, I did 1000 of test and videos. Sometime it come, sometime it vanish, sometime I can't open the lock screen via pattern if I leave the phone on the table.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNV_jat9Z5Y
Ive just recently had this after 4.3 upgrade I decidedto flash bk to 4.2 and problem dont exist then upgraded again and bam its there again... Seems a little strange
.whats you opinions on this...
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AndroidDan said:
Ive just recently had this after 4.3 upgrade I decidedto flash bk to 4.2 and problem dont exist then upgraded again and bam its there again... Seems a little strange
.whats you opinions on this...
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Try harder to replicate it on 4.2 the update did nothing to change the touchscreen
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Try harder to replicate it on 4.2 the update did nothing to change the touchscreen
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Yep, update did nothing except increase the RAM consumption
I ca confirm that on 4.2 I didn't have this issue,i tried to replicate it 100 times wothe no success..4.3 is constant
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So far I've seen lots and lots of people complaining about the touchscreen malfunctioning on the Z1, saying that this is a hardware problem .
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What did they complain? Details!
In PTCRB is since yesterday a new FW certified. Again...
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24328
Question is: would it be released?
I don't think so. It's only certified. NOT YET RELEASED...
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I don't think so. It's only certified. NOT YET RELEASED...
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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Only Sony knows (as always)
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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I guess no. This might be a test build for the path towards stable Kitkat.
Certified doesnt always mean that it would be rolled.
I guess sony will go straight to 4.4KK...
It could be like last update: 14.2.A.1.114 (certified) ==> 14.2.A.1.124 (certified) ==> 14.2.A.1.136 certified and released.
So again: wait and drink a cup of tea
After releasing New Flagship Device they might release kitkat for Z range
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I guess no. This might be a test build for the path towards stable Kitkat.
Certified doesnt always mean that it would be rolled.
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Therefore, that it's only a minor number forward from the last fw (136), it won't be anything near kitkat!
Maybe a minor Bugfix or extended update from 136 but nothing major!
Wait until the buildnumber changes to 14.3.X. to guess when kitkat will arrive, just a hint
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Kitkat won't be out before Barcelona - that's 100% and this could go out, maybe it's just some regional patch.
But it's nothing big - that's obvious from build number.
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I hope it fix XLOUD, my alarm is Damm too low, I'm hard to wake up!
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fixing voice and camera grain in low light in latest 136
I'm actually really impressed by the rate of updates for the Z1 so far. Granted this might not be released, but it looks like Sony has finally learned to be decently constant with updates.
i thought some Danish Carrier leaked out that 4.4 KitKat was coming to the Z1 in March
cant find the site at the mo but will look again later
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i thought some Danish Carrier leaked out that 4.4 KitKat was coming to the Z1 in March
cant find the site at the mo but will look again later
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It was a polish carrier presenting the list when the Z will be updated, not the Z1!
The Z1 will most probably be updated first though
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kantk20111 said:
I'm actually really impressed by the rate of updates for the Z1 so far. Granted this might not be released, but it looks like Sony has finally learned to be decently constant with updates.
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Yeah...They are working like crazy and fixing updates very quickly...
They are finally listening what we are talking...
And now with premium and elegant device like Z1 (and Z2 in the future) and great software - Sony will be the best choice (for me it always was)
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Yeah...They are working like crazy and fixing updates very quickly...
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Because the Z1 come out full of bugs!
Anyway I hope finally we get Apps on SD.
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Because the Z1 come out full of bugs!
Anyway I hope finally we get Apps on SD.
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That are mainly hardware issues and I really doubt it could be ever fixed...
Maybe they will succeed to make it better - like touchscreen sensitivity and yellow tint...
But that's not software - I'm 100% sure, why?
Because I'm using 290 firmware and it's working fantastic.
Without any touchscreen problems, with real white and black colors on screen and with great battery life...
Every single firmware I tried worked perfectly...534, 290 or 136 - without a single glitch.
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funky0308 said:
That are mainly hardware issues and I really doubt it could be ever fixed...
Maybe they will succeed to make it better - like touchscreen sensitivity and yellow tint...
But that's not software - I'm 100% sure, why?
Because I'm using 290 firmware and it's working fantastic.
Without any touchscreen problems, with real white and black colors on screen and with great battery life...
Every single firmware I tried worked perfectly...534, 290 or 136 - without a single glitch.
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Actually the Yellow tint is a known software, not hardware problem . The touchscreen problem is iffy, some say hardware while some say software. I actually would say the Z1 is almost flawless hardware wise, the problems start on the software side (yellow tint, camera, bluetooth, etc.)
It's good because that means Sony can fix most of the problems on the Z1. They already fixed yellow tint and bluetooth, now the touchscreen and camera optimization should happen soon.
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Actually the Yellow tint is a known software, not hardware problem . The touchscreen problem is iffy, some say hardware while some say software. I actually would say the Z1 is almost flawless hardware wise, the problems start on the software side (yellow tint, camera, bluetooth, etc.)
It's good because that means Sony can fix most of the problems on the Z1. They already fixed yellow tint and bluetooth, now the touchscreen and camera optimization should happen soon.
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I would say it's mix, it's a software, O.K but only on some devices which are using different screens and other parts (bluetooth chip and other parts).
It's impossible that you have problems and I don't have if we all have exactly the same hardware...
So the conclusion would be - we are both half right
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I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
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Try the J firmware.
If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.
The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...
I've changed keyboard
I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
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The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device
Not rubbish @ all
Robin2 said:
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.
Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT
You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
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Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
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lossah said:
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
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Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Well its not me who said "lag free".
lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
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Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
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Well today I installed the slyle potrait app which Sony finaly released, in two minutes I got the the notorious message saying that the camera will close if it keeps getting warm and after one more minute it closed. Could it be that the one to blame for the overheating is the camera software itself because I've never seen the message before and I've done some serious usage of the camera. I'll leave a link to the playstore so you can test it on your own!!! Any other thoughts would be much appreciated.
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.android.addoncamera.styleportrait
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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Its not only this app problem. Open camera and go to Effects, play with it for few sec and you gonna get message that phone is to hot...
Its actually hilarious that most of companies had time to create window with info about to "hot phone", instead of spending this few minutes thinking: "wait... we just created phone and app that get really hot making it no usable at all... maybe we should fix that? hmmm?"
I would not be mad if companies would spend this 2-3 months getting their balls together and make optimized phone and apps, instead of covering their failure behind window like "phone need to cool down... closing app"
Sad part is that its not only Sony problem, most of phones have this... No one give a flying crap to think about it and fix it...
SolidSnake1976 said:
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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I didn't say that the app is not good actually the effects are amazing but it is so frustrating that after 3 minutes the app closes
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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CosmicDan said:
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
Akinaro said:
My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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I will share when I find the time to write it my back cover never came loose but I definitely noticed heat fatigue on both the SoC and... Another chip, can't remember what it was - maybe the radio (it was a semi-large chip, second biggest after the SoC). Photos are on my other phone and its flat at the moment, I'll find out when I actually do the guide and look at mainboard diagrams again
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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well i tested it and it seems you were right but still i cant get it, why when both apps (creative effects and style potrait) use around 80% of the CPU, creative effects takes around 14-15 minutes to close and the style potrait just 2 minutes??
Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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no its not new and its not a case of neglect because i had flashed the app to my phone quite some time ago
But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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i flashed the app from a mod, the app wasnt meant to be installed at sony xperia z but now sony published the app at Play Store for all xperia (i think some old ones are not combatible). The app had the same issues before but i didnt want to post a thread before since it wasnt officialy combatible with my phone