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CM coming soon to GS II

It looks like CM7 may come to Galaxy S II sooner than expected
Samsung gave one of the developer a Galaxy S II to play with
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
http://twitter.com/#!/atinm/status/77754348758773760

ph00ny said:
It looks like CM7 may come to Galaxy S II sooner than expected
Samsung gave one of the developer a Galaxy S II to play with
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
http://twitter.com/#!/atinm/status/77754348758773760
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hehehe, good news indeed

This is huge!!! I just became a whole lot happier I made the switch to Samsung!

oh yes!!!
cant wait!!!! how can i donate to the team?

A very cool move on Samsung's part. It seems like recently they truly understood how the Android community works.

Wat makes cynomod better than the original samsung firmware eeally? Is it coz its jus rooted and has a better theme? Can someone clarify this please?
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I am not a big fan of cyanogen (well I wasn't when I was using htc' sense, not a big fan of TW) but I see it as a big step towards the community (if atinm really is just a cyanogen developer) and as a steppingstone to many different mods and custom roms once CM is up and running, I am also very pleased they releases sources early and chose as much as possible open hardware

dead soul said:
Wat makes cynomod better than the original samsung firmware eeally? Is it coz its jus rooted and has a better theme? Can someone clarify this please?
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It depends if you like touchwiz cyanogen probably sucks for you, I love HTC's sense and was never interested in running CM roms (I ran one for 15 minutes and quickly reflashed a sense rom)1 but if you don't care about these vendor customizations you can get roms without all the bloat.
For me the good thing is the galaxy sense team use CM as their base, so hopefully this means a quicker port of sense to the sgs2 too

I suppose this will bring wiimote functionality too?

So from wat ur sYin n how I understand this is that I could as well install a basic rom/interface such as the google nexus ? Right? And I bekieve my phone shud be alot more faster? Even though its fast?
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Is it possible to instal the basic original google androId os like nexus one? Or wud it be dangerius?
sorry guys I asked alot of dumb questions bcoz I was used to symbian
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dead soul said:
Is it possible to instal the basic original google androId os like nexus one? Or wud it be dangerius?
sorry guys I asked alot of dumb questions bcoz I was used to symbian
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That would be a AOSP rom, there is a work in progress build in the dev section right now.
CM7 is close to aosp, better most would say.

dead soul said:
So from wat ur sYin n how I understand this is that I could as well install a basic rom/interface such as the google nexus ? Right? And I bekieve my phone shud be alot more faster? Even though its fast?
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CM is based on AOSP or vanilla android. However it is pretty heavily modded and has a slew of features such as lock screen gestures, modding of system apps to include additional settings, support for additional file types etc. It's a nice ROM for sure but there are no guarantees it will be 'Faster'. Touchwiz 4.0 hardware accelerates some system apps such as the browser and homescreens/application drawer so a stock S2 may still feel 'Faster'.
Edit: As the above poster said, a pure stock ROM like the Nexus 1/S is in progress in the dev section, CM is far from vanilla android; an advantage for some and a disadvantage for others

This team just opened a thread in the dev section. Let's hope they will do some good work!
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It's not just the CM7 rom that's important
Slew of other custom roms such as miui are based on CM7. This will open the flood gate to modding hopefully

FYI AFAIK (yay acronyms) Samsung gave 1 SGS2 to each big CM7 contributor of CM7 for SGS, so "again AFAIK" 4 SGS2.
Which is pretty much an awesome move IMO

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CM is based on AOSP or vanilla android. However it is pretty heavily modded and has a slew of features such as lock screen gestures, modding of system apps to include additional settings, support for additional file types etc. It's a nice ROM for sure but there are no guarantees it will be 'Faster'. Touchwiz 4.0 hardware accelerates some system apps such as the browser and homescreens/application drawer so a stock S2 may still feel 'Faster'.
Edit: As the above poster said, a pure stock ROM like the Nexus 1/S is in progress in the dev section, CM is far from vanilla android; an advantage for some and a disadvantage for others
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Yeah I'm okay with or without cyanogen. What is great news is samsung getting involved it is. A sign of good faith in my opinion that they may actually be considering what the customers want now..
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Its good to know samsung is gettin alot involved with android xoz they r the true iphone killers
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Samsung represents android in a big way coz when they make high end phone they really outclass other vendors very satisfied with my sgs2
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They got the gsm version of the phone. Wonder how it will work when the cdma version of the phone is released.

Difficult to develop for GS4?

Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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take a look at i9300 sgs3 development section,
then come back here with your findings

If it's anything like the Note 2 you will loss any Samsung tweaks if you go with a non-touchwiz Rom. Even GPS and bluetooth is a little hairy on Aosp or cyanogenmod Roms. But each phone/team working on the Rom is different. I'm actually sticking with a custom touchwiz Rom because I need the reliability for a business trip this upcoming week.
And it will be extreme luck if the IR sensor works without Samsung's framework. The IR port is the one thing I've been dying for to make a come back. I would actually pay $20 for a fully programmable IR app that has the same functionality of one of those expensive Logitech models.

The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.

GGXtreme said:
The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.

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...I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?

Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.

cdmoore74 said:
I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I am looking to run stock android jelly bean on my next device.
I had a nexus s for my first android phone and I took it for granted how amazingly easy it was to flash not only roms but radios, kernels, basically anything. And I just love stock android.
I am now on an HTC rezound. While I do like it, I sorely miss stock android and flashing away at will. Already had quite a few flashing mishaps.
If I am forced to run touchwiz to use all these new features, then I'm not going to pay attention to the features when choosing my next device.
This wouldn't even be an issue if the LG nexus was released on Verizon.
Ugh, looks like I'm still waiting.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.

Livebyte said:
I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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Explain?
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GGXtreme said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
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Actually it depends on the feature.. Some of the features see baked into the framework apk others have individual apps... None of them are launcher dependent.. However all of these together make a ROM.. So I don't know you are referring to??
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Piaband said:
Explain?
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He means all the devs will fly in droves to the new flagship device leaving the flagship devices of last year stranded..
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Piaband said:
Explain?
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Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.

I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.

Reviewers said:
I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.

Livebyte said:
Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
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And the S3 community, count it in. We're fed up with all those broken promises too.

Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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Only for developers that want to wipe Samsung off the phone. Which I don't understand since most of the new hardware features require drivers Samsung rightfully will not release. For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
I'm sure there will be plenty of developers that will develop deoxed custom ROMs and great kernels with tweaks OCing etc. . Omega already to jump in. The only custom ROM's I've ever used were that of STOCK ROM development where features could be enhanced and drivers would not be a problem. CM always seems to have something missing or not working.
Why buy a Samsung device and then wipe it clean of all the great features? Just buy a Nexus 4
That said. I don't mind running an ASOP ROM on my Nexus 7 I will be glad to get rid of when Samsung releases the 6.5" Note 3.
For many a stock base is good enough with a custom launcher. This is a very very small community. I know at least 12 people with an S 3and 6 with Notes. None of them even want their phones rooted.
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The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Phoneguy589 said:
The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I think GS4 & Note3 development will be pretty similar to GS2, Note, GS3 and Note2.
AFAIK, for example, the AOSP based ROMs don't really support the S-Pen on the Notes, but that's more app specific.
Cameras have long been, and will likely continue to be a problem. Video capture rates may be lower, features like both cameras, sound in pictures, smart scroll may not be supportable.
As always, for stock features, there will be stock based ROMs. Take your choice, features or AOSP based.
As with all the other Galaxy S class devices, there will be two main variants: International Exynos Octa & US/LTE/Qualcomm. ROMs, XDA forum sections and many issues will be different for each.
I predict that many ROM devs will continue to complain about the lack of Exynos info and source code. But they will develop, as best they can. I'd like to see Samsung open up more, Sony and Qualcomm are better at open-ness.
And there will be at least one other group for the Qualcomm variants; I'd hope the US carrier variants will all be able to run the same ROMs, but previous experience is different I guess.
tbong777 said:
For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
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1st post of my thread has links to free versions, as well as free alphas of Spirit2, with digital audio features for Galaxy S class devices.
I hope the proposed Android FM API will see success and provide more options.

howtomen said:
Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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Only reason I ask is that the i9300 get newer software updates vs the 8747 or t999. I was recently dead set on getting the i9500 but now it well be based more on development. The the ir blaster won't work km cm or aosp as it doesn't work on the note 10.1...Only touch wiz. Not really a big deal to me but I was Curtis as th where most devs are from that usually get the international ones. LTE to me means is reach my data cap sooner so hsdpa+ is plenty quick got me.
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Entropy512 said:
Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
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Yeah, I guess that's just for exynos based galaxy devices. My US S2 Variant has several 4.2.2 aosp roms. Aokp, cm10.1, pac, slim, rootbox etc. I assume the USA s4 will be similar.
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Question : I337 cyanogenmod or Google Edition?

I am thinking about finally rooting and romming my I337.. Which should I do? Why/Why Not?
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No brain'er here, CM. Google is to bland, basic, and is sluggish to me.
The Ax says, my opinion only.

TheAxman said:
No brain'er here, CM. Google is to bland, basic, and is sluggish to me.
The Ax says, my opinion only.
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I would say that opposite, cm has some nice features, but are not ready yet for an everyday phone with zero issues. Google edition is rock solid stable. Also some people, like myself, appreciate the barebones look of stock Android and don't want all the add-ons that come with cm
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I tried GE but missed CM features too much.
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I tried GE but missed CM features too much.
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Same. I tried GE for about 3 or 4 hour before reverting to a nandroid of my CM10.1 Hell I couldnt even turn off the Google Seach on the homescreen on it like I can with CM
IMHO Cm10.1 is very very stable now. Running it every day no issues at all for me.

When using GE, I didn't like not having the ability to change the quick settings pull-down options

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IMHO Cm10.1 is very very stable now. Running it every day no issues at all for me.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I had been rom hopping around all over the place, but have pretty much settled into CM.
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Thanks everyone... My buddy just got a true GE S4 and I am going to play with it but you have confirmed what I was thinking.
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Me personally I didnt like the CM roms. I think they are good just need a little more work to make them really shine. Now GE my phone ran amazing and had great battery life. If you like to customize heavily I think CM but if you want a phone that really shines on battery life GE.

The CM mods don't have the headphone microphone & audio working during phone calls.

I'm still contemplating which rom should I switch.. Which rooting method did you guys used?
My S4 is GT-i9505 (I9505XXUBMF8), I've read about Motochopper and CF method, which is safer and easier?

I used Casual 527b. It worked flawlessly.
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That is a good complete no brainer hahah. Cm10.1 is the same thing as GE
They are both aosp based hence look the same , act the same. However one has tons of features and one has almost no features. Cm10.1 really is better . And ... if you really like ge edition thqt much go download the sun beam live wallpaper and apply it on Cm10.1!!! Now it's google edition'd. Lol.
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kellwx said:
I'm still contemplating which rom should I switch.. Which rooting method did you guys used?
My S4 is GT-i9505 (I9505XXUBMF8), I've read about Motochopper and CF method, which is safer and easier?
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I have an I337m, so the boot loader is unlocked, I used Odin to flash CWM, then used that to flash the superSU zip file
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Thanks for posting the question OP. I'm a big fan of CM and I wish it was a simple answer. It's rather complicated. I came from the Evita (HTC One X) over to GS4 and I was wondering whether the GE would outshine CM. Currently I'm on CM10.2 nightlies (just arrived) with a nandroid of KangaBean GE backed up on my phone.
Basically, if you're coming from TW stock, you may love GE unconditionally and love it's rock solid stability. However if you've gotten a taste of CM, you're going to look at GE as a bit bare boned when it comes to features. I think the CM devs are brilliant but you'll have to contend with a few bugs in the nightlies here and there but that's not to say CM isn't a daily driver. On this device, it absolutely is good to go. CM also has literally has an army of devs adding new security features and new apps to enrich the experience (Focal and hopefully in the near future, Chomecast). GE isn't doing that at all and you're really relying on a couple of devs teaming up and trying to add mods to enrich the experience.
Also regarding updates, the CM team is absolutely committed to keeping you on the bleeding edge. If you noticed, Android 4.3 dropped and the CM team SWARMED on it. The Github was a mess for a few weeks but they essentially ripped it all apart and put it back together in a very short period. Now they're on 4.3/CM10.2 nightlies for most devices. On the other hand, if you think just because you have a GE phone you're going to get the latest updates you're in for a rude awakening. It wasn't billed as a Nexus device so don't expect updates on that level. Hopefully GE updates drop earlier than the TW updates so the devs can get their hands on them for you but I'm not holding my breath on that one. To be honest, I think you're more likely to see the next version of Android come from CyanogenMod.
So you just have to pick your poison. I think I'm going to restore KangaBean today but I'll likely be back on CM before the day is over.

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First of all, did your phone already update to MF3? if so your only option is rooting at this point the Loki exploit was patched in MF3 and your likely SOL when it comes to custom roms, possibly permanently, bootloader workarounds or unlocks are tough and I haven't seen any signs of progress on that front around here on XDA
If you want a rom that is a stable excellent daily driver go with GPe rom, no issues or lag whatsoever.
If you want to be on the bleeding edge, use CM but it still has some pretty big bugs at this point, they don't even have a milestone release at this point I don't think, it's just nightlies. There will be issues
The few extra features aren't worth the bugs imho, I don't mess with CM until they get to a RC for my device, (occasionally I've give a milestone release a try) because the bugs bother me.
I'd rather have stability over features that I rarely use.
Most people on XDA tend to overlook a lot of small and sometimes big bugs with very early releases of AOSP roms like CM and AOKP
Casual was super easy and that's what I used to root, though I swapped out TWRP for clockwork recovery as it has auto-loki

Please detail these "big bugs".

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Please detail these "big bugs".
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Now when you were on CM did you ever make it to CM 11 M8 Build. I really enjoy that ROM on my s4 but I have better luck using Dan's 4.4.4 GPE ROM. its way more stable. I really want to love CM because I believe they have so much going for them but I have too many issues. Plus battery life is not amazing. No horrible but not amazing.

No alot of traffic? Roms?

I'm patiently waiting for my 8.0 to arrive. While doing this I've skimmed through the forums and such gleeming information. The 8.0 has been out since April / May and it seems compared to the other Note products that I've owned (all three of them) the ROM development and general traffic seems to be on the light side.
Not criticizing.
Is this because the devs are waiting for a source to drop? Is this because the majority feel that Samsung has made a solid product (hardware and software) that there is little to adjust or complain about the product (which is a good thing) Or the last not so good scenario that thus is not a very popular device because of odd size, design, price point, economy, cheaper alternatives, waiting for something better?
I don't want to do the usual "Dude, thus place is Dead! Why?" Lol.
I'm interested in what others who have been here longer feel about this.
Thanks.
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I just got my note 8.0 (international version n5100) few days ago. Although you are right there isn't much development going on. The problem is that most of the developers are in USA. The US version of the Note 8.0 (at&t) and the Canadian version have yet to have root. So that is why you don't see much activity around here. Once the At&t version can be modified. I would expect more developers to show up.

Best buy and such is just selling the WiFi version anyways sent they?
I guess that brings me to another question from what I've noticed: are people buying this mainly as a 3g device to use as a phablet? AFAIK mine will just be a WiFi only.
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Yes Best Buy is most likely selling the wifi version unless they made you sign a contract that is a safe bet.
There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.

Custom roms would be nice for some fun but I'm very happy with stock rooted. It's a solid device.
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I'm all for custom roms....But, I like the stock rom very much. I chose the 5100 because it offers everything in one package. If I need to make a phone call, no problem. Send a text, I'm covered, plus wifi. Would loved to have had LTE but with T-Mobile 3G+ I don't feel rained on!! And yes I live in a refarmed area. For me, living in the U.S., the 5100 3G is the best option. In other countries that were offered LTE (voice+data) that would be the way to go.

The reason I go with Samsung in general is because I don't want to have to flash anything custom. Over the 5 years or so of owning Android, I've been through a lot of devices, and I can't begin to imagine how much time I've wasted flashing, restoring, backing up, etc, etc. There are more important things to life than customizing your gadgets. In short, I don't care whether this place is dead, active, or whether there is a single custom ROM or kernel out there for this device. Samsung provides a solid device that performs well, and they are about as up to date with updates as can be reasonably expected. I have no complaints.
Just as an aside, I've flashed many custom ROMs and kernels to my previous Galaxy S3. All of them made my performance and battery life far worse than stock, and most of them had serious issues with their themes.

That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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janjannsen99 said:
That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.

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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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Well I agree with that. As far as Samsung goes it is true that you're better off staying on something touchwiz based. This is true. All the CM and aosp stuff is plagued with problems. You're right about that. I actually like touch wiz ROMs especially for the note 2. Looks like the same with note 8. Once you lose the spen features you kinda lose the whole point of havin a Samsung device with spen. You're right
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Personally I just care about root because it opens up a lot of useful apps. Otherwise I haven't had issues with stock ROMs.
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I wish more no pc root options were available. Tried framaroot so I could install a few apps and small mods but haven't had any luck. I think stock rooted with small mods is best for the note. I had a transformer TF300T that I highly moded to get it to run at the speeds I now have on the note 8.0.
I think over time and with 4.2.2 or 4.3 the note 8.0 should see more in the development area.
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Rooting is always the first step for me and although custom roms are a handy shortcut there are many Xposed modules to help you to customise your device yourself.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Build JDQ39.N5120XXCMG7 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 on Telstra LTE

Thanks for opening this thread! The lack of custom Roms was one of the first things I recognised after buying the Note 8. I came over from a NExus 7 (2012) and as was stated here before, modding just took a lot of time from me. First it was fun to try out CM, AOKP Paranoidandroid etc. and these guys really have some good features. But I never kept a ROM longer than a few weeks because they were all horrible slow - still better than stock though. In the end I realized that it was the device itself that kept getting slower due to hardware issues and the custom ROMs just eased the problem because of the wipe I did every time. My phone is a HTC Evo 3d that also needs a lot of attention due to (in my opinion) horrible stock ROM.
Now after reading this thread and thinking about my experiences with the Note so far I have to admit I'm pretty happy with it. I Also don't care that it is still on 4.1 because 4.2 on the Nexus was just a pain with all the bugs and extra features were rare and useless for me. with 4.3 it seems to be the exact same story. So for now it's okay. Especially since I installed my favorite launcher after trying out TouchWIz
I just hope to see a good Android 5 ROM someday with S-Pen functions and so on, but that story isn't written yet

nickdollahz said:
There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
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So what are the differences between the n5100 and the i467?
telephony capability
LTE radio
ear speaker
ability to act as wifi hotspot
Anything other differences?

I like touchwiz. But I want cyanogenmod. I used cm on my s3 for more than a year.
I hope cm will be available for n5100 soon.

How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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graffixnyc said:
How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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Start from the beginning of this thread for your answer.
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graffixnyc said:
How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...

wase4711 said:
its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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Does the Spen work with the CM roms?
Steve

[Q] CyanogenMod?

Dose anyone know when cm will be available for Verizon note 3???

Probably never. Officially anyway. CyanogenMod usually stays away from devices with locked bootloaders and I don't think they recognize SafeStrap as an alternative. That said, some developer may decide to try port and SS installable Cyanogen version. If I still had my build setup going I might even try it, but I'd need LOTS of help. I'm not a developer by any stretch, but I can tinker a little.

tonykks188 said:
Dose anyone know when cm will be available for Verizon note 3???
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Could see it for the developer edition. Safestrap can't flash kernals for right now from my understanding. On the S4 only kernals based from stock can be flashed. It takes a ton of work to make a stock based kernal able to boot AOSP, but I believe its been done.
Hit thanks if I helped you out.
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G8orDroid said:
Probably never. Officially anyway. CyanogenMod usually stays away from devices with locked bootloaders and I don't think they recognize SafeStrap as an alternative. That said, some developer may decide to try port and SS installable Cyanogen version. If I still had my build setup going I might even try it, but I'd need LOTS of help. I'm not a developer by any stretch, but I can tinker a little.
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That's not what's preventing a aosp rom for our phone. The reason is you can't flash kernels in safestrap. And aosp requires a special built kernel... Plus, as much as I loved aosp on all of my previous devices, I wouldn't put it on my phone because it takes away the reason I got this device, you can't use the pen and all of the gimmicks.
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Brandonrz said:
, as much as I loved aosp on all of my previous devices, I wouldn't put it on my phone because it takes away the reason I got this device, you can't use the pen and all of the gimmicks.
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I agree 100%.
Running beans ROM now and I'm 100% happy with it.

Brandonrz said:
That's not what's preventing a aosp rom for our phone. The reason is you can't flash kernels in safestrap. And aosp requires a special built kernel... Plus, as much as I loved aosp on all of my previous devices, I wouldn't put it on my phone because it takes away the reason I got this device, you can't use the pen and all of the gimmicks.
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Correct. And the reason you can't flash kernels in SS is because of the locked bootloader (which is also the reason we need SS in the first place).
BTW: Cyanogenmod supports the s-pen. It just doesn't come with the proprietary Samsung apps.
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This is why we need @nitroglycerine33 bad. With his ROM you get basically all the aosp look you want but maintain the TW features and functionality.
We need to get him a device!
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bajasur said:
This is why we need @nitroglycerine33 bad. With his ROM you get basically all the aosp look you want but maintain the TW features and functionality.
We need to get him a device!
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JellyBeans also focuses on theming close to AOSP.....

Speaking from my Note 2 experience (currently an iPhone 5s owner looking to get back into the Android game) I always went back to Touchwiz roms even with my unlocked bootloader. I now feel that if you want AOSP or cyanogenMod get a Nexus device. The Note devices are just not made for it.
But this SS method sounds interesting (first time hearing about it today). If I get this Note 3 from the trade in a few days I can't wait to see it in action.

cdmoore74 said:
Speaking from my Note 2 experience (currently an iPhone 5s owner looking to get back into the Android game) I always went back to Touchwiz roms even with my unlocked bootloader. I now feel that if you want AOSP or cyanogenMod get a Nexus device. The Note devices are just not made for it.
But this SS method sounds interesting (first time hearing about it today). If I get this Note 3 from the trade in a few days I can't wait to see it in action.
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Say what? You forget you are no longer in the land of Apple. Can't doesn't exist in these parts Need to hurry up and get more Dev editions in stock though or I'm going to end up just holding out to see if the M8 gets the features that will have it taking best in show.

I love Paranoid and AOKP but I also love Touchwiz. It really has evolved over the years and has become smooth. I wouldn't mind AOSP but it's not a deal breaker for me.....even tho I do own a Dev Edition and I'm able to flash custom kernels
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