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Is the Moto X still worth it?

I have my upgrade this week on Verizon, I've been taking a very serious look at the moto X. Motomaker is one of the coolest things on the scene, as well as some of the moto specific features such as active display. The specs just worry me a tad bit when I put it up against something like a G2 which is in the same price range. Many say the specs on this phone are not a indicator of performance, and I actually like the feeling of the Moto X compared to all the other phones I've tried. So should I just throw my spec worry to the wind?

This phone can easily do anything you want it to do. Hardware specs are not a key decision factor here. It is powerful enough.
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Don't focus on the specs! I just left a Note 3 and switched to the Moto X ... Don't regret it one bit!
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I just did. Came from the HTC One about a week ago and no regrets! No difference in performance on daily tasks and Active Display is the best new feature I've seen in a long time. I did go with the Developer Edition though.

Maybe read the 20 other similar threads....lots of opinions there that I'm sure many aren't going to repeat again.
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To use stock its perfect. If you are a flashaholic look elsewhere.
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Got mine a few days ago. The phone is fantastic. It may have modest hardware, but the stock ROM runs great on it.

Best phone I have owned!
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I would stay its still worth it because the price has done down too. Its a great phone and runs fast and smooth but its also a good deal at almost half the price of the other flagships of its generation..

This has been the best device I have purchased in my four years on android phones. I've had the GS4 and HTC one and this phone IMHO performs just as good if not better.
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Don't focus on the spec's. Focus on how it performs. My X performs great. Despite having a Samsung Galaxy S4 in my drawer for work that I could stick my personal SIM in and use, I PURCHASED a Moto X Developer Edition for Verizon in early November (two days before the first price drop, when there was no other option to get 32gig X on VZW).
Also keep in mind, if you plan to root, the Moto Maker and retail Verizon Moto X have a locked bootloader which can not be unlocked. While SlapMyMoto 1.0 works to root phones on 4.4, It has a few steps, including flashing older roms first, etc. In reading this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896&page=69 there are reports that root can survive the 4.4.2 update, but it appears the "write protection disable" provided by MotoWpNoMo doesn't survive. Therefore the Developer Edition Moto X for Verizon, which can have its bootloader unlocked and is quicker/easier to root, might be worth looking at.

I have always been about the latest and greatest smart phone and wanted the best specs. When I got the X, I was skeptical. I am now a true believer in that the greatest specs are not needed. Go for the X.

Mine is arriving tomorrow con UK!!, I'm ****ing excited!!. I bought even know in Lenovo bought Motblablabla!!, I don't care I have MotoG and happy to have it so I don't wanna think tomorrow when I'll get MotoX between my hands on!!
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Agree with all previous comments - I'm coming from a HTC ONE X, X+, ONE, and even a Sony Xperia ZL in regards to recent phones and the Moto X for some reason just makes me
The HTC ONE was really good in terms of Android phones and the build quality is still impressive. However, in terms of every day use, snappiness, battery life, integration of core services - the Moto X is nearly perfect (in regards to today's phones). Things can be always improved on any phone (screen if you need text to be razor sharp / camera if you are a vampire that only takes pics at night), but considering all the promos and the decent support from Motorola to keep their customers happy - it's worth taking the risk and seeing if you like it (not to mention you can always return it)!
There is paranoia from people regarding the Lenovo deal - who cares. I'm in the tech industry and will probably have a new phone next year anyways. If the Moto X2 is awesome I'll buy it even if it's owned by Lenovo. If something else is better, then they'll get my business. Who cares - just enjoy what we have now that is awesome...and that awesomeness is the Moto X.
Note: I was not paid by Moto to reply LOL

Buy the Moto X
I bought two Moto X's and can say unequivocally that they are the best phones I've ever had - and I've had cell phones from the very beginning. Don't focus on the specs - focus on the user experience. The size, performance, battery life and feature makes the X a first-rate product.
Plus, building it on MotoMaker is really cool.

I say do it unless you can hold out til the end of Summer for the "X2" lol. I left the N5 for this when I got in on a promo for it over the holidays. This is my favorite Android phone so far and I've had a lot! Nexus S, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, HTC One, Nexus 5, and probably others I am forgetting lol. The extra features like Active Display, Touchless Controls, and "Drive Mode" are super cool. This phone performs just fine given the "midrange" specs and the fact I customized the colors to my liking makes me like it even more.

I love my moto x and believe that it's worth the money to purchase outright without a contract. With a family of 5, I've had a LOT of "flagship" phones. After receiving my Moto X, I'm thinking about giving my S4 to my 14yr. old son and buying another Moto X for my business line.

I'm debating the moto x too...I might need a new phone cause mine is bricked but i cant help and think a new generation of phones are coming out soon

Best phone I have owned. Very snappy. Love all the extras, like twist to open camera - no more tapping away to get a picture.
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Lenovo bought Moto

After Lenovo bought Moto, the price will be lower?

Its already at a good price . Not sure if price drops will happen any time soon .

If anything seeing the popularity in Indian Market...They might consider increasing the price LoL.
And I don't think Lenovo would want to do anything different from whatever moto is already doing..Since moto is having quite a good rep for its devices in US......they don't wanna take risks with that Since some americans get bothered by Chinese manufacturers
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Actually Google has bought a percentage of Lenovo, so I don't think so.
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Yes but not a controlling stock so I don't know how much that matter ....the way I see it..its just part of the business end formalities
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Rename the forum

The forum should be renamed to Moto Maxx. Since Oct of 2014. Nothing about the turbo has had any impact. :crying: Seriously thinking about dumping Verizon. Been A wireless customer since 1998. The worst customer service ever.

HOFFABALBOA said:
The forum should be renamed to Moto Maxx. Since Oct of 2014. Nothing about the turbo has had any impact. :crying: Seriously thinking about dumping Verizon. Been A wireless customer since 1998. The worst customer service ever.
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But nothing happened with Moto Maxx since it was released, no updates, no soak tests and no news.
If you think nothing is happening for Turbo, much much less is happening about Moto Maxx.

Create a separate forum. Turbo is Verizon and Moto's Flagship device.

se4n said:
But nothing happened with Moto Maxx since it was released, no updates, no soak tests and no news.
If you think nothing is happening for Turbo, much much less is happening about Moto Maxx.
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What about unlocking the bootloader, root, twrp...?
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se4n said:
But nothing happened with Moto Maxx since it was released, no updates, no soak tests and no news.
If you think nothing is happening for Turbo, much much less is happening about Moto Maxx.
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"Much much less is happening about Moto Maxx" [Citation needed]
Just look at this forum. All the factory images and mods available are for Moto Maxx. There aren't many mods, but definetely much more stuff is happening to Moto Maxx than for Droid Turbo.
In fact, not a single thing is being developed for the Turbo, nor has the Turbo received any update the Maxx haven't.

Well, they have volte or something. But I'm with you. Even though they're pretty much the same device, there are still software differences, different regions and carriers. I really think we deserve at least some subforums, otherwise some people will start getting confused as soon as we get custom roms and stuff. It wouldn't be very straightforward to have people messing their phones up for nothing. Just my thoughts
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dbornack said:
Create a separate forum. Turbo is Verizon and Moto's Flagship device.
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Well, Verizon's, but I get your point.

cauebs said:
Well, they have volte or something. But I'm with you. Even though they're pretty much the same device, there are still software differences, different regions and carriers. I really think we deserve at least some subforums, otherwise some people will start getting confused as soon as we get custom roms and stuff. It wouldn't be very straightforward to have people messing their phones up for nothing. Just my thoughts
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There is no excuse for not having different forums. Look at all the other carrier branded variants that have theirs.
Edit: Oops, I said the opposite of what I meant, LOL.

I checked the HTC One and it has one for each variant! Can you give me a better example? :/

cauebs said:
I checked the HTC One and it has one for each variant! Can you give me a better example? :/
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Another would be Note 4.
I wager S5 too, though I am not motivated enough to go look.
I just read my reply and said the opposite of what i wanted.

Ah, ok. You confused me there

I think it's a cool idea, but I'm afraid there's not many users of Moto Maxx to make a separated forum relevant.
I saw some people complaining on Moto Maxx forum on Motorola site when people asks questions that already was answered on Droid Turbo forums.

se4n said:
I think it's a cool idea, but I'm afraid there's not many users of Moto Maxx to make a separated forum relevant.
I saw some people complaining on Moto Maxx forum on Motorola site when people asks questions that already was answered on Droid Turbo forums.
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That shouldn't matter.
Look at the activity on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m8-windows

adrynalyne said:
That shouldn't matter.
Look at the activity on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m8-windows
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lol

I think it would be adequate to rename it Droid Turbo and Moto Max and then create separate development sections as they did on Find 7 and others. I think its possible there could be some synergy between the two devices and development of both if the Turbo ever gets its bootloader unlocked and it could then be advantageous to both. I think it would also help bring in some more Maxx traffic since I suspect some owners never thought to look in the Turbo section.
Most of the multiple variant forums are for popular devices like the galaxy line which can be split up and still have a lot of activity on each. Something to remember is that a forums usefulness is in many ways tied to its activity level. In the situation here I think splitting the forum up might be more harmful than helpful in that regard.

Just wait while the exclusivity of verizon wears off in a few months

Jaocagomez said:
Just wait while the exclusivity of verizon wears off in a few months
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Exclusivity of Droid line is perpetual.
It has to be rebranded like the Maxx for any other carrier.

The forum should be re-named: Motorola Droid Turbo | Moto Max (QUARK)
They are both Motorola "Quark" phones, released under different model names.

ChazzMatt said:
The forum should be re-named: Motorola Droid Turbo | Moto Max (QUARK)
They are both Motorola "Quark" phones, released under different model names.
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HTC M7 and M8 are no different in that regard. They have their own forums.

Jaocagomez said:
Just wait while the exclusivity of verizon wears off in a few months
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adrynalyne said:
Exclusivity of Droid line is perpetual.
It has to be rebranded like the Maxx for any other carrier.
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He didn't say the exclusivity of the Droid wearing off. He said the exclusivity of Verizon selling this Quark phone in the USA.
Verizon calls it the Droid Turbo. In Puerto Rico (U.S. territory), but sold by Claro it's the Moto Maxx. When Verizon's exclusivity wears off, this phone can be sold in the 50 states by AT&T or T-mobile as the "Moto X Play" (rumored name) or some other name.
I own two of the Moto Maxx phones and I live in Georgia -- and run them on AT&T -- so there's really no U.S.A. exclusivity anyway. Very easy to buy from Puerto Rico dealers. Unlocked for any GSM/HSPA/LTE network sim card. Has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. (YES, it has LTE band 5 too, although official specs don't show it.)
For a DEVELOPER, much better than the Droid Turbo because we have unlockable bootloader, root and TWRP.

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back
http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder...sort_order=desc&keywords=XT1096,XT1097,XT1095
The updates went to the WiFi Alliance for certification. Maybe AT&T and VZW will stop dragging their feet and let us have it.

Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow

hassanabid94 said:
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
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So they can sell you a new phone of course same reason batteries are no longer user replaceable. Carrier greed.

I'm guessing this is still part of the story. Pure speculation, but perhaps Moto offered the stock updates, the carriers said OK, now go add all this bloat and test that everything still works, and Moto said we don't have the resources to test your bloat... I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is more to it that just what we know.

I think Motorola hands the software over to the carriers and they add and test it. I'm thinking that there is something to an agreement to sell a particular phone that guarantees a certain number of updates or something like that and that agreement is up for the 2014 Moto X with the carriers.
So in that case Motorola can make the update but the carriers aren't obligated to release it.
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If this is the case, why hasn't the Pure Edition/XT1095 gotten the update? It seems odd to me that they would willingly hold up an update for the XT1095 so that they could release it at the same time as the carrier versions of the phone... My guess (just a guess) is that they might still be working on stability with some of the Moto features when run on Marshmallow.

What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.

Note10.1Dude said:
What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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Maybe it's just me (I very well could be hallucinating) but I've always noticed that before I get an update my battery life gets a tad wonky. It's gotten to the point where if I go a few days where my battery dies more quickly than usual I'm like "Wait, are they going to push an update, soon?"
Again, I could be hallucinating. :silly:

This changes everything and makes it a totally avoidable PR disaster. Everyone was ready to lynch Motorola for not updating the carrier versions. The fact that Moto didn't speak out about the carriers blocking it is fascinating and I can't figure out why they'd do it., since they don't really need carriers anymore as they sell everything unlocked, unless maybe they still put them in retail locations or if they have enterprise deals for backend systems. Either way if this is true, Motorola is jumping on a grenade to save someone else.
We'll see how the rest of the life cycle of these phones goes, but maybe I can buy another Moto after all. If they keep punctual updates coming, maybe a black friday 2016 X is in my future.

People should stop bashing phone manufactures when it's usually the carriers fault for the lack of updates. This is very typical in the US where AT&T and VZW are the biggest blame since they control the major herds.
Phone manufactures provide the updates, but it's up to carriers (and their carrier branded phones) to decide if they want an older phone to receive an update or just fool mindless sheep and let them them buy a new phone if they want the latest and greatest. Simple as that.
Also.... Welcome to the consumer era! Where anything is old the next day! Why spend precious time on old hardware when they can sell you a new fancy phone for the same price or twice as much?! You know you can't say no to that if you're technologically impaired!

So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?

JulesJam said:
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?

AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?

JulesJam said:
The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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It was verizon. All the Moto X 2014 models will get one last update to 6.0, except for the verizon and at&t models which will stay on 5.1 which it has now.
Slipfish said:
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.cl/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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I have a MM ROM on my tablet and I really don't see what the fuss is about. The Moto X 2014 is still a great phone. MM doesn't bring anything really new to the table. I'd much rather have root than an OTA.

For me I was hoping that the MM update would finally fix the bluetooth/wifi issues that have plagued this phone since I got it.

Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...

OrenGazala said:
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
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The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.

titotito1983 said:
The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
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I already know that...
This thread is about xt1096 verizon and xt1097 at&t models and they are not in the list.

Moto X Pure Edition (XT1575) and Android 6.0.1.......

Does anyone have any idea as to when the XT1575 version of the Moto X Pure Edition will receive Android 6.0.1? I know the XT1572 version has received it, how much of a difference can there really be between those to.

Not much as many of us are running it now. You know as much as anyone here when it will be released.

I agree that it is irritating as it is almost exactly identical. Especially considering that there is no carrier control involved... Not directly that we can see anyway. With so many US phones being carrier controlled though, I imagine the focus is put into international models first. Hoping that North American carriers will start losing their grip on locked out devices.
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Not all 1572s have had the update. I'm in the UK with a ret (retail - no carrier) model and still no update :crying: Feeling quite let down.

My crystal ball is telling me that we're getting 6.0.1 next week.

gamer765 said:
My crystal ball is telling me that we're getting 6.0.1 next week.
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Hey that's great. I have several other question for you while you have the crystal ball out.
Seriously though, pretty frustrating that Motorola/Lenovo is taking so long to update their last "flagship" device. I realize they are working on their new 2016 models, but come on, if Samsung is beating them at updates, that is pretty sad.

The price has dropped to $349 on the Motorola website for the 32GB model..
Just thought I would leave this here, as one of the selling "features" of the Moto X Pure Edition direct from the website:
Pure Android™ experience and helpful Moto Enhancements
Boost performance, receive upgrades faster, and teach your phone how to work best for you.
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