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HTC One vs Moto X (Verizon)

I'll be getting either the supposedly "blue" HTC One or the Moto X on Verizon by the end of this month. We all know the Moto X is slightly underspecced compared to the One but supposedly it's got a massive slew of new features and the PRICE tag equivalent to a dollar menu item at McDonalds compared to a Big Mac; assuming that you can get it from Google Play for Verizon. (Sorry for the run-on sentence)
Here's what will make or break my decision.
If the Moto X does these, I will not buy:
Lag: I will not tolerate anything less than buttery smooth like the HTC One
Camera: If the rear camera is a complete waste like the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 camera.
Bad Battery life: I assume based on battery size and slower processor that this thing will have admirable battery life, but you never know
Quiet Speakers: This one is 50/50. If the external speaker(s) suck big time then I won't buy. But if it's at least as good as the iPhone5 then I will hold nothing against it.
Low Storage: I haven't read everything there is to know about it yet but this thing needs to have 32gb storage minimum, whether it's internal or achieved by an SD card, I don't care. It just needs to happen. I'm sitting at 4gb remaining as it is with my silver HTC One, lol.
Bad Screen: Here's the major kicker. I've read the rumors that the X will have 312ppi and our One's are rocking an incredible 468ppi. That's normally an indication of how great the screen will be in real life. If the screen looks obviously worse, then I'm going to just grab the Verizon HTC One and call it a day.
Feel free to add any other things that would make or break your decision between these phones. All the while keeping in mind that the X is a few hundred dollars cheaper.

You know as much as we do, why compare.
Keep in mind the One is also likely 2x the cost of the X, if the rumors hold true - so hopefully the One is better in most of those categories.

My opinion is this, it won't sound as good as the One due to the boomsound speakers, but I could live without them.
Same with PPI of over 450, there's basically zero difference over 300, so again, a wash for me.
Honestly, if the bootloader is unlocked and the battery is decent (better than the One), I'll probably switch to the X.
I hear the software optimizations are awesome on it as well.

I personally don't see a reason to consider the X if the One is within your budget. Sure the X may be better bang for the buck but I wouldn't settle for decent when I can afford great.

"Who wants to be a fireman?"
Why not add that to your ridiculous poll?

lol it is $200 on contract for AT&T (probably similar for Verizon). You can just get the One for the same price :laugh:

killman2659 said:
lol it is $200 on contract for AT&T (probably similar for Verizon). You can just get the One for the same price :laugh:
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Yeah that just sealed the deal for me. What a flop. Looks like a blue One will be it,

Syn Ack said:
Yeah that just sealed the deal for me. What a flop. Looks like a blue One will be it,
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And i think i read that the 32 gb will be AT&T exclusive

killman2659 said:
And i think i read that the 32 gb will be AT&T exclusive
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As will the customizations.
I really had high hopes for this thing.
Hyped product is hyped.
:meh:

Boo, motorola dropped the ball from the sounds of it.
Definitely no reason to get it over the One, IMO. (Unless you really want to talk to your phone when it sleeps :angel

Man. And here I thought it would be a play device that would replace the nexus 4. Guess not. Although the notification system and the google now thing is pretty cool. I want that on my One.
Edit: I guess it will be released as a dev/unlocked device, but doubt the price would be anywhere near $300 if it's contract price is $250.

bbedward said:
Boo, motorola dropped the ball from the sounds of it.
Definitely no reason to get it over the One, IMO. (Unless you really want to talk to your phone when it sleeps :angel
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Agreed

Honestly, an HTC One Mini sounds better than Moto X.

What's hilarious is Motorola Mobility (a company owned by Google) won't be shipping the X with Android 4.3. Fragmentation is so bad on the Android platform that even a cell phone manufacturer owned by Google itself can't even get the latest version of Android on its own phones. I'm sure the US cell phone carriers are responsible, since it's coming out on all 4 major carriers. I'm not complaining or anything (4.3 is a relatively minor upgrade), I just think it's funny.

Dual core vs quad core you decide.
IMO this is a huge mistake from Moto.
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henrybravo said:
What's hilarious is Motorola Mobility (a company owned by Google) won't be shipping the X with Android 4.3. Fragmentation is so bad on the Android platform that even a cell phone manufacturer owned by Google itself can't even get the latest version of Android on its own phones. I'm sure the US cell phone carriers are responsible, since it's coming out on all 4 major carriers. I'm not complaining or anything (4.3 is a relatively minor upgrade), I just think it's funny.
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I agree that it is stupid that this phone doesn't ship with 4.3. You would think Motorola would've been the first company to receive an early final build of 4.3. IMO if anyone wants this phone just wait until they release the Google Play version of it (if it doesn't have 4.3 then that would be pathetic)
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I have waited months for the HTC One to come to Verizon I will not to turn back now. But really Moto X is a mid range phone, I want the best.

Too be honest, I am a little conflicted
Motorola should be commended for allowing customization on their phones (even if its just aesthetics). In my opinion every company should do this.
The specification are considered mid-range, for specification buffs this is disconcerning (and most of us here are spec buffs) but my question how much does it matter? My brothers Nexus 4 runs just as smooth as my HTC One and it has a slower processor. Dual Core vs. Quad Core, how many apps actually use all the cores?
720p vs. 1080p this will depend on if you can tell the difference. This is what I tell people when they compare screens, if you can't tell the difference there is no point of spending that extra money. The 720p def will save battery and allow the phone to run faster (less resources diverted to run the 1080p screen)
Active Display and Touchless Control do add unique functionality. Touchless Control will be really useful when driving. Active Display is definitely a good way to handle notifications and may increase battery life.
Price being the same gives the HTC One a huge advantage though. If the unlocked version is around the same price as the Nexus 4 then it could be worth it. But its somewhat unlikely since its made in the US (our minimum wage is $7.50 an hour while the workers in China usually get $1.50 an hour. HUGE difference here)
Though I feel Motorola is heading in the right direction. If they add options to customize CPU, RAM, Screen...etc. (which they can definitely do with their new Texas factory) or even options for different material panels (I know they are prototyping wooden backs at the moment) this will go somewhere. Price is the biggest problem right now and to be honest I'm not sure how they will be able to solve it.

I love the X, at the price point though I'd rather buy the One.
I think a lot of people feel the same way, but I certainly hope it succeeds anyway.
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regP said:
I personally don't see a reason to consider the X if the One is within your budget. Sure the X may be better bang for the buck but I wouldn't settle for decent when I can afford great.
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Who will stay with Moto after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?

My last two phones have been Motorola. Functionally speaking they are pretty good and my Maxx has been the most solid phone I have owned. There is a fly in the ointment though. The back cover on multiple phones which have been replaced all creak and squeak after a few months of ownership.
For this reason I am sitting tight until the next ultimate handset comes out that can functionally one-up this phone. One that is built solid but light and has the big battery or super efficient tech to go for days like the Maxx does.
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I too have a "creaking" back cover...specifically up by the power button/volume rocker...
That being said...I was always a big Moto fan..and then switched because I HAD to have the Galaxy S3 when it dropped...and that was the WORST cell phone related mistake of my life..
I couldn't wait to dump that thing and get back to Moto...I just hope that they decide to continue the Droid line along with the X line...
I am almost 100% sure that my next phone will be a Motorola...
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Droid 2, Droid 4, Droid MAXX. They've all been tanks. I had two Droid 4s that both got wet and they both pulled through until months later... Hardware wise and build quality wise I have no complaints.
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I have had several Motorolas: the droid 1 a855, Droid Razr Maxx, and now the Droid Maxx. I loved the root-ability of the first two, although the Droid Razr Maxx was a beeatch. Now that I'm on the latest droid Maxx, it really sucks that it can't be rooted, at least since that chinese guy got caught, and I'm stuck with a slower-than-it-should-be device, which I cannot customize. I will only stick with Motorola if they don't lock the bootloader on the next one, but I doubt that will happen. Looks like I will get a nexus next.
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Moto for life...

It's way too early for me to tell. I'll see what's available at upgrade time and decide then. This phone will be great until then.

I've had over a dozen Moto phones starting with the original brick and almost every flagship phone since then. I've strayed a couple times in the last 20 years and quickly came back.
I'll stay with my flagship Moto Dev's unless Lenovo messes with the built like a tank phones that we have enjoyed. If I can't drop it in a pool or river(true stories), dry it out and use it the next day, I don't want it lol.
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I just want to get out from under Verizon. That being said the functionality of these phones is awesome. So unless Google uses these new features in the next Nexus i'm jumping to the new Moto X on AT&T or the One from One plus.
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I'm not expecting to stick with Motorola, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it. I've been relatively happy with my Maxx- battery life has been far better than any other phone I've had (particularly coming from a Galaxy Nexus), which is really what drove me to the Maxx instead of the HTC One.
It seems like battery life of other phones is improving, taking away the primary distinguishing factor that brought me to Motorola. I haven't been completely happy with the performance of some apps on the Maxx, and the screen resolution could use a bump, so I'm going to prioritize those things a little higher next time around.
I'm really interested in seeing what happens with the Android Silver program. It would be tough for me to move off Verizon. Assuming Verizon participates in Android Silver, that's probably the closest thing Verizon users will get to a Nexus-like experience.

There is a new phone out every other week....
...from some company or other. So there is no way to tell what will be the best price vs performance choice a year and a half from now when my contract expires again.
I have to say thought that even though I have had root on previous Android Phones (Droid 1 and Droid 3) I don't really miss it on my Max. The biggest reason I wanted it on previous phones was to get rid of all the crap that I never used. But with the Maxx it seems like there is 1. less crap to begin with and 2. A lot of it can be disabled (including a lot of the verizon stuff) using the regular android settings menu. So I'm not particularly missing root on this phone.
On my Droid 1, late in its life I did start messing with custom roms just for fun. Funny thing is that I still have that Droid 1 sitting here on my desk running Cyanogen Mod 7.2 (think its .2 - don't remember for sure). It doesnt have cellular access anymore but it still works around the house as a WiFi only device.
PS: I was not sorry to see the Droid 3 go away. That one never lived up to my hopes for it. I liked the form factor and I do sometimes miss the physical keyboard but the CPU always seemed slow and I almost immediately regretted getting a 3G device rather than holding out a bit longer for a 4G phone.

I am very impressed with my Maxx, even today. I don't trust Verizon, and am leery of Lenovo. I want to continue with this company's awesome path that started with Google's purchase, but I am not sure that Lenovo will allow that. I am also disappointed that thanks to Verizon I am still running 4.4.0.
If they release a 64gb Moto whatever with a super battery, and the quality stays the same, I will stick with them barring further course changes for the company strategy.

My last 2 smartphones have been Motorola Droids and I love both of them. Unless in the future they remove the things I love about the phone (NFC, Qi Charging, Awesome Battery) I don't see myself using a different brand.

When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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I think I'll stick with Moto. My next device won't be a Droid though. The successor to the Moto X sounds pretty good.
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When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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...or at least how I did it. Don't get your phone at the Verizon Store. Order it online from Verizon (not from Amazon, wirefly, ect or any other third party - direct from Verizon). Along the way choose the option to "keep my existing plan". It let me keep my unlimited data plan that's been grandfathered for me ever since my first smart phone way back when (was a Samsung i760 Windows Mobile if anyone cares). I chose to "pick up in store" even though I had ordered on line. They guys at the store couldn't believe I still had unlimited data. They said they thought that couldn't be done.

I will stay with my Droid Mini. It has the best combination of size, power, apps, and now with it able to utilize the XLTE speeds makes it even better. I am just not that interested in getting a phone that I have to carry in hand vice in my pocket because every phone out now is 5" plus. I swear most newer phones are nearing the size of my Nexus 7 LOL.

I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.

Einsteindks said:
I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
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The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.

ratman6161 said:
The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.
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I would lean towards the latter and it being a cost saving move.

These are Verizon phones
The title lists only the Droid series - Ultra/ Mini and Maxx.
The 'real' Motorola phones are the X, G and E for now.
So, question should be rephrased to "Who will stay with Verizon after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?"
I am not in the US and using the Droid Maxx. My earlier phone - Motorola Defy - is still working after 3 years and several CM installs.
The hardware is pretty strong on that one and the build quality is good. The phone got wet several times in the rain and there have been no permanent issues due to water.
I cannot say the same for the Droid Maxx. It would be risking too much for me (I paid twice the amount to acquire a Droid Maxx, to what I paid to get a Defy three years ago.)
Hence I have put it into an Otterbox Defender series case to protect the phone since one fall on the floor will kill the phone.
The build quality of Droid Maxx is just like any other phone in the market perhaps.
But there are positives for sure.
1. The LCD has no bleeding, which I feel speaks of good quality.
2. The speaker has good volume and great quality (for music lovers)
3. The battery is awesome. For my limited use, it easily goes to the end of third day for me.
The Otterbox Defender adds a lot of bulk and the inbuilt screen protector reduces the touch sensitivity significantly (especially the virtual buttons).
But since I wish to use the phone for three more years, I think this is the price I have to pay for the beast.
I also bought a used Razr HD Maxx XT926 for my dad last year. The phone is really nice (and the 4.4.2 update is like the icing on the cake).
Luckily I have bootloader unlocked on that one, so I can retain control for a long time.

Nexus 6 Mini

So... for most this will be dust in the wind and you won't care or believe...
I heard from a little birdie that a Nexus 6 Mini(aka a smaller moto x branded as nexus) is coming... so wait if you want it smaller.
I hope it's true.:highfive:

I would be all over that!

Where did you read it man.
Found nothing on the internet

I doubt it. That would just be pretty much a google edition of a Moto X 2014.

I bought the Moto X (1 gen) for 3 reasons:
- At the time, it was a Google product, which meant, for regular updates,
- Its size, which perfect for me (and for a lot of people around me, perfect size for a phone)
- its price (300 euros)
The Nexus 5 was too big. The Nexus 6 too too too big and too too too expensive.
A Nexus 6 Mini, with a prize of what Google habit us at beginning... why not..

Only one reason: Active Display( now maybe Moto Display).
So I don't need Nexus6 or CM12.1
And Moto X 2014 is my other choice.

Nexus has to come out with a new phone this year. Any nexus the size of a phone and on Verizon and I am on it.

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Nexus has to come out with a new phone this year. Any nexus the size of a phone and on Verizon and I am on it.
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Right there with you lol :highfive:

I'd be on it in a second. My 2013 Moto X is getting old, and not having Lollipop isn't helping matters.
My GF has the Nexus 6 and it's just simply way too big for my taste. If they made one closer to the size of the Moto X 2013 or 2014, I'd be on it in a second. But it must work on Verizon. I'd probably be willing to switch to Google Fi, but I use too much data for it to be worth it at this point. I'm on a family plan on VZW, so my dad pays the base cost, I only pay for my data plan and handset insurance ($50/mo). I use ~10-15GB of data month, so Google Fi would be at least 3x that amount. And I'd lose the Verizon network, which is definitely the best in my area. GF has Sprint and my old roommate has T-Mobile, and they are both awful in many of my frequent locations, while VZW doesn't miss a beat.

Would love a smaller Nexus 6... or even just a smaller Moto X would be great.

...or why not keep the same moto x 2013 metrics and only update the hardware, camera and maybe give it a slight mAh bump?
The original design is cool and conservative yet can be classy with its custom backs. No need to ruin this balance with some new "let's-try-this-or-that" ideas.
The X feels solid like a good'ol Nokia did back in the day. It simply makes sense and has that thoughtful engineering approach to it. Something that isn't very common today among SP manufacturers.

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No sources of this info yet? Interested, I am.

Not that I don't think a smaller Nexus 6 would be great, but there aren't any news stories about this anywhere that I know of, so it's a little hard to believe.

Droid Turbo 2 vs. Nexus 6p

So I'm assuming these are the two big phones that are in the spotlight at the moment. Both have their pros and cons, one gains what the other one lacks and vice versa. Which do you believe is the superior device?
Both contain the Snapdragon 810, 3GB RAM and a Quad HD screen so they should be virtually the same, performance wise.
Pros of Nexus 6p:
Android M right right out of the box
Pure Android experience with the quickest updates (we know how long other brands take to update)
Finger print scanner
USB type C
Cheaper price
Very clear AMOLED display
Unlockable bootloader
Pros of Droid Turbo 2:
"Shatterproof Display"
Micro SD card (finally!)
Moto Maker (ability to customize your phone)
Larger battery
Flash on the front facing camera (pretty cool)
Wireless charging
Specs based on personal preference:
Screen size(5.7 on the 6p vs. 5.4 on the DT2)
Camera (21 MP on the DT2 vs. 12.3 MP on the 6p)
POLED(which everyone seems to be complaining about) on the DT2 vs. AMOLED on the 6p
The locked bootloader on the Turbo 2 has me nervous because I took a gamble with the original Turbo and, luckily, we ended up getting a decent way of rooting the phone; I don't know if I can take that risk again. Not only that, but Motorola really broke our trust with its claims of the original Turbo getting lollipop "before the end of 2014". What a joke that was. All we felt were pain and broken promises.
I do miss having an external SD card so that is the one thing that is leaning me towards the Turbo 2, but I wish they could just take the best qualities of both phones to make the ultimate superphone.
Which do you think is the superior device?
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Superior, 6p hands down. Outside of the battery and possibly the camera the 6p beats the Turbo2 in most measurable areas, including portability and unlock-ability.
For me I am looking for a device with a very large battery, so this is at the top of my list. I also still have a 2 year contract so with the subsidy I am hoping it will be a reasonable price.
That all depends on the display. I need to see one in person to make sure the display will be good for me as I have also seen a lot of mixed reviews, mostly negative.

How is the 6p better for portability? The turbo 2 is physically smaller, which means more portable to me.
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He probably means rooting/roming.

Or between carriers. Turbo 2 being VZW exclusive, even if it gets unlocked BL (unlikely!) ever, probably minimal dev support.
The big downfall, personal to me, of the 6P is size. I just dont want a phone that large.
I love my current Turbo. just not convinced this is enough of a spec bump to upgrade though. will have to see it in person I guess

rajuabju said:
Or between carriers. Turbo 2 being VZW exclusive, even if it gets unlocked BL (unlikely!) ever, probably minimal dev support.
The big downfall, personal to me, of the 6P is size. I just dont want a phone that large.
I love my current Turbo. just not convinced this is enough of a spec bump to upgrade though. will have to see it in person I guess
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You got it, sorry for the poor choice of terms.

Ah, good point. I never switch carriers, so didn't think about that...
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DarkWolf747 said:
He probably means rooting/roming.
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JasonJoel said:
How is the 6p better for portability? The turbo 2 is physically smaller, which means more portable to me.
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You got it, sorry for the poor choice of terms.
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Ah, good point. I never switch carriers, so didn't think about that...
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Pros of Nexus 6p:
Unlockable bootloader
The locked bootloader on the Turbo 2 has me nervous because I took a gamble with the original Turbo and, luckily, we ended up getting a decent way of rooting the phone; I don't know if I can take that risk again. Not only that, but Motorola really broke our trust with its claims of the original Turbo getting lollipop "before the end of 2014". What a joke that was. All we felt were pain and broken promises.
I do miss having an external SD card so that is the one thing that is leaning me towards the Turbo 2, but I wish they could just take the best qualities of both phones to make the ultimate superphone.
Which do you think is the superior device?
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Just look for the Moto X Force, is the international version of the Turbo 2.

I wanted the nexus 6p. But I dont have almost 700 bucks for the 64gb plus the insurance. Me and my gf just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. I choose the droid turbo 2. I've never had a droid device before. It seems nice and I don't need a case on my phone since the screen won't shatter. Plus Verizon gave me 300 dollars for a trade in. Half went to my droid turbo 2 and the other half went to my gfs note 5. But the payments are much easier to do then to come up with almost 700 up front for a phone.

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I wanted the nexus 6p. But I dont have almost 700 bucks for the 64gb plus the insurance. Me and my gf just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. I choose the droid turbo 2. I've never had a droid device before. It seems nice and I don't need a case on my phone since the screen won't shatter. Plus Verizon gave me 300 dollars for a trade in. Half went to my droid turbo 2 and the other half went to my gfs note 5. But the payments are much easier to do then to come up with almost 700 up front for a phone.
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How long have you had the device and what are your impressions?
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Need opinions

Hey everyone,
I need some opinions from the community on what to do here. I currently have a Galaxy S6 that I got in August. Although it's a great phone, I feel as though it is extremely weak, especially in the battery life category. I just got offered a discount on the Moto X Pure, unlocked so I can just go switch my SIM, and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to go ahead and pull the trigger on this deal? It is about a $100 discount on the phone, with customization still an option. Let me know what you guys think!

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Hey everyone,
I need some opinions from the community on what to do here. I currently have a Galaxy S6 that I got in August. Although it's a great phone, I feel as though it is extremely weak, especially in the battery life category. I just got offered a discount on the Moto X Pure, unlocked so I can just go switch my SIM, and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to go ahead and pull the trigger on this deal? It is about a $100 discount on the phone, with customization still an option. Let me know what you guys think!
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Of the two, the Moto X will have better longevity, as it is using a fairly established chipset and Motorola have open-sourced the kernel (more custom ROM's, and therefore updates, for a longer time). The Moto X also has removable storage support, is completely unlocked, and support pretty much every cellular band known to man.
However, it is also significantly larger than your current phone, and the display is not quite as good (this can be argued one way or the other, but I think Samsung has the best displays right now, hands down).
For me, sweet spot on a phone is 32GB of storage, so with your proposed discount that'd be about $350+tax from Moto Maker. Honestly, that's a really good deal for what you are getting. Just make sure you can handle the size.

The s6 and the mxpe are two very different phones. I prefer large phones, SD card, front facing speakers and lcd. But be prepared to take a step down in the camera department, and you're losing a fingerprint scanner. The mxpe is the best phone for me, but I know its not for everyone.

I made this trade and never looked back at s6...!

I've had much better luck with Moto products then Samsung ones.