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To Latin America Fellows

Hello guys.
As I could see from the Marquees Brownlee hangout video conference with the Motorola CEO, it seems they (Motorola/Google) are targeting and very excited with the Latin American market, especially Brazil, pretty much than any other company.
Finally a company that could see the real value this market has.
So, expect good things from them.
Also, the Latin America market had the greatest increase in mobile consuming the last months and is expected to have it higher than anybody else in the next year. So expect companies to focus better on us.
Last but not least, the Moto X is among the top sellers phones in Brazil and Chile. This might mean something from a market with almost 300.000.000 phones.
Almost forgot, here is the video:
Abraços!
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That's really cool. Moto G it's coming to destroy the low end market, and the Moto X it is the best phone that you can buy for a very fair price here in Chile.
I hope that KitKat comes early here.

You can try tmobile kitkat, works great with Claro 4g.

That what i keep saying in +. Portuguese is one of the three official languages that Moto X supports. But we still have lazy commands with Moto X and also Motomaker will never happen here. Of course the focus is on US but can be the only one. I hope that they can realise that here we enjoy tech as many american customers.

I have Virgin 3g. Can wok it?

I think they strategy for Brazil is being excellent. First the Razr phones started to sell quite well and for a decent price, and now they are heavily promoting the Moto X and G and for much better prices than the crap Samsung phones. I hope they do well.

xpc21 said:
That what i keep saying in +. Portuguese is one of the three official languages that Moto X supports. But we still have lazy commands with Moto X and also Motomaker will never happen here. Of course the focus is on US but can be the only one. I hope that they can realise that here we enjoy tech as many american customers.
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Moto X voice commands relies much on the Google Search. Thats why a lot of commands dont work for us. But that is starting to change. The latest Google Search update added a lot of new Portuguese commands for us and this tends to grow a lot in the comming weeks.
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xpc21 said:
That what i keep saying in +. Portuguese is one of the three official languages that Moto X supports. But we still have lazy commands with Moto X and also Motomaker will never happen here. Of course the focus is on US but can be the only one. I hope that they can realise that here we enjoy tech as many american customers.
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Actually in the video, Motorola CEO emphasizes that they are working very hard to bring the Motomaker to Brazil, as the phones sold here are produced here aswell. He puts it in a way that it looks like that it is the next step of the company, bringing it here.

Lollipop!!!

So its official new version is Lollipop. New nexus 6 is what was leaked (Shamu).
@Topsnake? We getting these? I mean you said it'll be available for Verizon right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...agon-805-3gb-ram-3200mah-battery-13mp-camera/
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With the Droid Turbo having a 21mp camera, is 13mp enough?
Will the Nexus have Active Notifications and the full suite of Voice actions?
It looks to be a heck of a phone.

bwheelies said:
With the Droid Turbo having a 21mp camera, is 13mp enough?
Will the Nexus have Active Notifications and the full suite of Voice actions?
It looks to be a heck of a phone.
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It will be enough for me. It'll keep the cost down (hopefully.) I hope that it has active notifications. I'm quite found of that feature. Could live without it if need be. I'm thinking more along the lines of rooting and bootloader unlocking. Likely that won't be possible with the Turbo. If I'm paying outright for a phone it's not gonna be ~$700 and locked down like Fort Knox!
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Caseyk621 said:
It will be enough for me. It'll keep the cost down (hopefully.) I hope that it has active notifications. I'm quite found of that feature. Could live without it if need be. I'm thinking more along the lines of rooting and bootloader unlocking. Likely that won't be possible with the Turbo. If I'm paying outright for a phone it's not gonna be ~$700 and locked down like Fort Knox!
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Its officially coming to VZW which is unheard of. I think even though the nexus has a slightly smaller battery, the unlockable BL is enough to boost it over the Turbo.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...-t-mobile-sprint-and-us-cellular-in-november/

The 64gb option is nice. I also prefer the Nexus' shape to the Turbo. Droid Turbo will probably be $700 like the Maxx was.

If there was a way to get the moto stuff on the nexus, ie. Touchless and active display, then I'm in, since it is unlocked. If the Turbo can be unlocked then that is the one I go for since I still have an upgrade available. Put this Droid Maxx on eBay because the wife likes her OG Moto X more. That is months down the road, probably something to consider in 6 months when the dust settles. Hopefully by then xposed will run on art and somebody found a way to unlock the bootloader. Until then, this Droid Maxx is a beast of a phone and I'll continue to lurk in the 2014 Moto X forums and secretly laugh at their locked bootloader and a joke for battery life. 3500 mAH baby!!!!

Them can unlock the same as us with the Chinese guy
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Johnny Wong said:
If there was a way to get the moto stuff on the nexus, ie. Touchless and active display, then I'm in, since it is unlocked. If the Turbo can be unlocked then that is the one I go for since I still have an upgrade available. Put this Droid Maxx on eBay because the wife likes her OG Moto X more. That is months down the road, probably something to consider in 6 months when the dust settles. Hopefully by then xposed will run on art and somebody found a way to unlock the bootloader. Until then, this Droid Maxx is a beast of a phone and I'll continue to lurk in the 2014 Moto X forums and secretly laugh at their locked bootloader and a joke for battery life. 3500 mAH baby!!!!
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Here you go!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
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Caseyk621 said:
Here you go!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
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Awesome! Thank you

Caseyk621 said:
Here you go!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
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Very nice. Looks like it will be part of Lollipop. Wonder if they ripped off Motorola's twist to launch camera feature before handing the company over to Lenovo also.
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new XT1250 for sale (unlock-able Droid Turbo clone)

For those interested, I found one.
It's listed as an XT1225, but only has 32GB memory. (XT1225 only comes with 64GB memory) I pointed this out to the seller and he admitted it's a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-B...D-/291551551851?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
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SAME FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254, same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands. Will run on Verizon with Verizon SIM card. Bootloader can be unlocked and phone FULLY ROOTED.
From: chazzmatt
To: premium_wireless
Subject: Details about item: chazzmatt sent a message about Brand New BLACK Motorola MOTO MAXX XT1225 32GB ( MOTO MAXX ) GSM UNLOCKED #291551551851
Sent Date: Sep-01-15 12:43:59 PDT
Dear premium_wireless,
You sure this isn't a Droid Turbo XT1254 or U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250?
Because the XT1225 (sold in Latin America countries) ONLY comes in 64GB. I own two, so I know. XT1225 does NOT come in 32GB. Whereas the U.S. XT1250 and Verizon XT1254 both come in 32GB variants.
- chazzmatt
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From: premium_wireless
To: chazzmatt
Subject: Re: Details about item: chazzmatt sent a message about Brand New BLACK Motorola MOTO MAXX XT1225 32GB ( MOTO MAXX ) GSM UNLOCKED #291551551851
Sent Date: Sep-01-15 12:47:44 PDT
Dear chazzmatt,
I am sorry, this is the 1250
- premium_wireless
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I have no connection to this person, but so many people have contacted me looking for an XT1250. I have pointed people to the various regional carriers who sell it. But here's one very available on eBay...

Nice find and nice phone but still 619 $ is pricey considering its 1 year old.
edit : not to misunderstood for price given by seller, should add sellers' price 619$ is good deal comparing other sellers.

Semseddin said:
Nice find and nice phone but still 619 $ is pricey considering its 1 year old.
edit : not to misunderstood for price given by seller, should add sellers' price 619$ is good deal comparing other sellers.
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for a new "dev edition" of Droid Turbo, it's a great price. ;
Unlock-able bootloader, can be fully rooted.
With dev help, you could also install custom 5.1 ROMs built for other Quarks.
Runs on Verizon with Verizon SIM.

I mean in two months time maximum, we will be offered the droid turbo 2 and moto maxx 2, it is possible to be that ugly motorola bounce or in a droid style case model hopefully. It won't be more expensive than 600$.

Semseddin said:
I mean in two months time maximum, we will be offered the droid turbo 2 and moto maxx 2, it is possible to be that ugly motorola bounce or in a droid style case model hopefully. It won't be more expensive than 600$.
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I don't think replacement model will be on two months...
I think the Motorola Bounce IS the Droid Turbo 2/Moto Maxx 2/Moto Turbo.
Except it will be Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon)/Moto Force (for the rest of the world). Just my guess. I may be wrong. But others are speculating the same thing.
5.4" 1440p display instead of the TOO LARGE 5.7" of the Moto X Play. And upgraded specs (Snapdragon 810, Qi wireless, shatterproof).
Waiting until December so it can have Marshmallow at launch. Not sure if that's ANNOUNCED in December or RELEASED in December. Media reporters confuse that all the time.
and it will probably be about $600 (if it has Qi wireless, etc,). "Shatter proof" and 64B raises the price.
Curious whether the 21MP camera will have OIS and whether either of those bottom holes are a 2nd speaker (for stereo front facing speakers).
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_force_will_be_the_official_name_of_the_leaked_bounce-news-13819.php
Moto X Force will be the official name of the leaked Bounce
, 02 September, 2015
Just a short couple of days ago we brought you word of a new smartphone in development at Motorola. Up until today this was known by its codename - Bounce.
It will however be sold as the Moto X Force when it eventually launches. Along with the official name, we have a new leaked render of the device for your viewing pleasure.
It keeps the trademark Motorola design, so you're not definitely not going to confuse this with an offering from a different manufacturer. Since we've so far heard that there's a Droid Turbo 2 in the making for Verizon, it now seems likely that would be based on the Moto X Force, since Big Red's other Moto launch, the Droid Maxx 2, is basically just a rebranded Moto X Play. Then again, the carrier could have gone with the Moto X Style for its next-gen Turbo, we'll see.
The Moto X Force will apparently be "shatterproof", which suggests a military MIL-STD rating of some sort. This could be paired with water and dust resistance through an IP factor.
Inside the Moto X Force we'll find the Snapdragon 810 chip from Qualcomm, 3GB of RAM, 32 or 64GB of storage, as well as a 3,760 mAh battery -- which, amazingly, is even bigger than that of the Moto X Play.
The screen will be a 5.43-inch QHD affair, while the main camera will be the 21 MP unit seen in both of the other Moto X-branded devices launched this year, paired once again with a 5 MP selfie snapper.
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Over on Disqus and even Reddit, I find it funny people still believe that the Droid Turbo was "exclusive" to Verizon. That was a marketing lie.
They seem to know nothing about the the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- which is IDENTICAL device to the Droid Turbo XT12154 -- even the same FCC ID -- and runs on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card. Also has unlock-able bootloader... the U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the locked down Droid Turbo. Of course, Verizon is not going to tell you about it! And Motorola isn't going to announce it widely because of their relationship to Verizon. But it's there if you know how to research.
Many people have bought it and used it on Verizon. You can root, install TWRP, etc.
Now the Quarks forums have been separated, but if they had not been together for the past year, would the lucky Verizon customers who bought the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx because I told them about it have even found out about it?
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The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is not to be confused with the International Moto Maxx XT1225 and Moto Turbo XT1225 (see even the Turbo name is not exclusive), which are also Moto Quark phones but do not have CDMA bands enabled, and have a slightly different mix of LTE bands. All the XT1225 models are the same device, in spite of having two model names (Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx). Same FCC ID across all regions, same SKU.
See, there were basically two Motorola Quark phones -- with two different FCC IDs -- released under THREE model names:
FCC ID IHDT56PK1:
XT1254 U.S. Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (identical device, CMDA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands -- except for model name). The XT1250 will run on Verizon, with a Verizon SIM card. This device has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 enabled.
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FCC ID IHDT56PK2:
XT1225 "international" Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx (identical device, GSM/HPSA/LTE bands, except for model names). No CMDA. This LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 enabled.
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Of the two Quark models -- released under three models names (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo, Droid Turbo) -- only the one with the model name "Droid Turbo" has locked down bootloader.
The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254 "Droid Turbo" if you can get your hands on it. (unlock-able bootloader, can be easily rooted, TWRP installed, etc.)

Great summary. Thank you. I'm getting ready to move to Verizon because after relocating my AT&T coverage is terrible. Verizon rules in my new area. The Bounce seems like the best alternative to my One M9 which I'm using now because there is a way to unlock and root. I've been spoiled by the ease in which you can convert carrier branded HTC flagships to unbranded Dev editions. Sounds like December will be when I'll be able to switch.

it seems on twitter, the running theory is announcement for the Turbo 2 will be in the middle of October and release at the end of the month. I am secretly hoping they release a Developer Edition because the skip every other year pattern matches up *and* there isn't a Nexus 6 to compete with anymore within Moto's catalog. If so, I am totally prepared to drop $$ on it. Mind you, I realize it is unlikely anyone at Motorola will give a crap about us tweakers considering Android Pay being dev-hostile. I am perfectly ok with choosing between root or Android Pay. I am almost tempted to buy a Moto X Pure and roll the dice on battery life and the 808. My Turbo may never see Bootloader Unlock. who knows at this point.

kitcostantino said:
it seems on twitter, the running theory is announcement for the Turbo 2 will be in the middle of October and release at the end of the month. I am secretly hoping they release a Developer Edition because the skip every other year pattern matches up *and* there isn't a Nexus 6 to compete with anymore within Moto's catalog. If so, I am totally prepared to drop $$ on it. Mind you, I realize it is unlikely anyone at Motorola will give a crap about us tweakers considering Android Pay being dev-hostile. I am perfectly ok with choosing between root or Android Pay. I am almost tempted to buy a Moto X Pure and roll the dice on battery life and the 808. My Turbo may never see Bootloader Unlock. who knows at this point.
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Winner, winner. Give the man a prize.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/...-droid-turbo-2-announced-pricing-release-date
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...turbo-2-and-its-plastic-shatterproof-display/
Anyone going to jump? How long should we wait to see if Motorola releases an unbranded version similar to what ChazzMatt discussed about the original Driod Turbo?

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-prod...ase-date-price-specification-rumours-3628221/
i definately dont need a prize, lol. if you figure out, as i did, that most leaks start on twitter There definately is a variant that will be released. Just a matter of bands, shipping, and importing.

Droid Turbo 2 is coming tomorrow.

Hey so just a quick update re the Moto Maxx XT1250, they're now approx $340 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Motorol...ed-GSM-4G-LTE-21MP-Camera-Phone-/351564947009
When I found out about the new Driod Turbo / Moto X Force being over $600 I had sticker shock so I went ahead and bought the XT1250 instead. I also have a Nexus 5X coming. I'm stocking up on phones because I have four, or possibly three, family members that are all switching to Verizon and need to try and not break the bank on hardware. No-one in my family wants a phablet-sized device so the XT1250 seems like a good fit. It'll be interesting to see who latches onto it.

I have been searching around and can't seem to find the answer to this question, so I thought this thread would be good to ask it in. Does the XT1250 support VoLTE? I actually need simultaneous voice and data.

good question!! honestly, if I get my hands on one, I plan to bl unlock, then flash turbo firmware. well, at least radios. same fcc id = same hardware. doesn't answer your question I know, but I'm pretty sure the theory is sound

I have an XT1250 and unlocked it when I got it and flashed the verizon firmware on it and it works fine including VOLTE.

DougMG said:
I have an XT1250 and unlocked it when I got it and flashed the verizon firmware on it and it works fine including VOLTE.
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Agreed. It worked fine for me too. In fact, flashing VZW's firmware is one of your few options if you want Lollipop. Hell it gets Verizon OTAs too.
I've been following the CM12.1 thread and it sounds like right now the XT1250 can't play. There must be a significant-enough difference in the firmware (vs XT1225) to keep it from working.

Just in case anyone is still following this thread, they are selling the xt1250 on jet.com for $260, and if you create a new account your get $30 off! So it comes to $230 with no tax for a new phone.
I assume it's new, but I'll know for sure by the end of next week

Thanks for the info, also purchase one red set. $230
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DougMG said:
I have an XT1250 and unlocked it when I got it and flashed the verizon firmware on it and it works fine including VOLTE.
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mrbillishere said:
Agreed. It worked fine for me too. In fact, flashing VZW's firmware is one of your few options if you want Lollipop. Hell it gets Verizon OTAs too.
I've been following the CM12.1 thread and it sounds like right now the XT1250 can't play. There must be a significant-enough difference in the firmware (vs XT1225) to keep it from working.
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Since someone replied to this thread and brought it back to the top, XT1250 does work with CM12.1 and CM13. The post above was from months ago.
Also works with Resurrection Remix and Mokee (and I think also Xperia ROM) over in the other Quark forum.
The XT1254 Droid Turbo and XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx are exactly the same device, even the same FCC ID.

ChazzMatt said:
Since someone replied to this thread and brought it back to the top, XT1250 does work with CM12.1 and CM13. The post above was from months ago.
Also works with Resurrection Remix and Mokee (and I think also Xperia ROM) over in the other Quark forum.
The XT1254 Droid Turbo and XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx are exactly the same device, even the same FCC ID.
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Do you have links to the pages where we can find the mods? I tried searching but haven't had any luck so far

Moto Maxx receiving Marshmallow update

At least thats what they say....
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html
What do you think? Would we be able to run Marshmallow before end of year? Maybe early next year? Or would we be the new Atrix HD?

Very good!
I will not hold my breath for this year though.

I'd like it sooner rather then later but am willing to wait until they work the bugs out.

mathab said:
At least thats what they say....
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html
What do you think? Would we be able to run Marshmallow before end of year? Maybe early next year? Or would we be the new Atrix HD?
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At least Motorola put it in writing on official website. So, it's no longer "rumor" or Moto Support chat screenshot.
Marshmallow upgrade are listed for BOTH The XT1225 Moto Turbo is listed for India as well as the XT1225 Moto Maxx for Latin America. Yes, they are the same device, with the same FCC ID -- but Motorola gave the same phone two different model names, depending on the market where being sold. So, nice they confirmed Marshmallow for this phone for BOTH model names.
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014
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However with XT1225 (which was first released as the "international" Moto Maxx with Kitkat 4.4.4) they also promised to bring Lollipop, but turned out to only be 5.0.2 which had lot of bugs and was laggy. (To refresh your memory, India Moto Turbo XT1225 launched with 5.0.2. Moto Maxx XT1225 soon received that same version as an upgrade from 4.4.4.) Motorola gave this premium priced device only an early version of Lollipop. They never gave us 5.1.1 which was lots better -- or even 5.1 which they gave to one of the other Quarks -- the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254. Nor have they yet released the 5.1 kernel source for the July 2015 Quark (Droid Turbo) XT1254 update, which would help CM ( @Skrilax_CZ) give us an even better 5.1.1 custom ROM...
All the current 5.1.1 custom ROMs for the XT1225 are still using 5.0.2 Quark kernel source. Besides CM12.1, the other ROMs (like Mokee, Resurrection Remix, Nexus Experience) use 5.0.2 kernel code from CM for their Quark versions, so without CM's @Skrilax_CZ (who bought an XT1225) we wouldn't have any custom ROMs for our XT1225! We can never thank him enough!
@baybutcher27 has done outstanding work -- giving us an updated OFFICIAL TWRP recovery (taking over from @respider, who had his XT1225 stolen from him), and also giving us a custom kernel. But even he built on the kernel foundation laid from CM's @Skrilax_CZ.
So, if Motorola does eventually give us Marshmallow, I hope it's at least a couple of versions of 6.0 over the next year -- and I hope they release kernel sources.

@Skrilax_CZ is really great, Motorola told him they will release a new version of quark kernel in the next few weeks.
Hope they really released it.
And that 6.0 for quark does not take 6+ months more than all other Motorola devices...
After this news it seems that Motorola will skip the 5.1.1 for MAXX and go straight to 6.0

I don't like this atitude. I work with IT myself and for god sake all those sources are on git.. look the CM system they do *automatic* builds of their roms, why? Because thats pretty much obvius, if you commit changes to the core you want all sources to be recompiled and tested. All vendors could do that. What about the fact Android IS open sourced. Whats about AOSP? This is a disrespect. You know, they could at least give you the subsequent lastest source for you to compil for you phone, like you cant have the lastest android, but I give you the abilitie to put a custom rom in you phone if you like. I not even talking about to Open de Device Drivers, wich I know they will NEVER do, but I don't mind to use a blob here and there. I have been using the nvidia driver blob on linux for years, and I can say the thing got pretty much very stable.

i like how they say we are getting it but i'll believe it when i see it

It seems that media is start to pushing Motorola:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/15/motorola-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-you/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/08/an-open-letter-to-motorola-start-promising-a-concrete-period-of-update-support-to-your-customers-or-start-losing-them/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2923622/android/android-upgrade-report-card-lollipop.html?page=2#moto

Galaxo60 said:
It seems that media is start to pushing Motorola:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/15/motorola-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-you/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/08/an-open-letter-to-motorola-start-promising-a-concrete-period-of-update-support-to-your-customers-or-start-losing-them/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2923622/android/android-upgrade-report-card-lollipop.html?page=2#moto
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If only Motorola could be more like LG:
Android Marshmallow: LG is the first non-Nexus device to get the latest Google update
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...Android-6-0-Marshmallow-LG-G4-UK-Release-Date
2015 LG G4 will be the first to get Marshmallow after the Nexus phones, but the 2014 phones won't be far behind. LG works closely with Google because they made/make Nexus phones also -- just like Motorola made last year's Moto Nexus 6.
Our Quark phones are 95% the same as the Moto Nexus 6... so, there's no excuse. The Moto Nexus 6 has Marshmallow, and so should our phones. If LG can do it so quickly, so could Motorola -- specifically for the non-carrier models where the updates come straight from Motorola.

Such a shame - the Motorola model of just adding to stock android really is the model more companies should adopt. They needed to stick it out a little longer though, it takes years to build up a brand. I have no doubt this is simply down to budget and employee cuts. They also likely screwed themselves by offering custom versions of firmware for so many different providers for each phone they make. Updating so many versions gets way out of hand quickly.
oh well, they had a good run and Lenovo could likely really make money long term but not if they don't really back the concept.

Altough Moto Maxx is a expensive top model it's being trated consecutively by Lenovo/Motorola worse then many of their mid range models.
I expect it to get Marshmallow after all their other models have it.

Erowind said:
Altough Moto Maxx is a expensive top model it's being trated consecutively by Lenovo/Motorola worse then many of their mid range models.
I expect it to get Marshmallow after all their other models have it.
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Yeah, it's like Motorola/Lenovo (or someone important in the company) hates their own Quark phone because it made all their other models look pathetic. So, they ignore this phone so they can make more money on all their mediocre mid-tier and lower-tier phones with higher margins. Moto G? HA!
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, it's like Motorola/Lenovo (or someone important in the company) hates their own Quark phone because it made all their other models look pathetic. So, they ignore this phone so they can make more money on all their mediocre mid-tier and lower-tier phones with higher margins. Moto G? HA!
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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I'm wondering if they are still planning to even release Marshmallow for the Maxx.

ChazzMatt said:
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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I hear what you're saying, and agree...but from a business perspective, it also makes sense to first get it to your larger (largest?) customer base, which may not be the XT1225 (just as the HTC M8 got it before the M9).

Too much conspiracy. For solid facts and news instead of rumors and speculation, go to Motorola's update page to see status on upcoming updates for each Motorola device.
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Too much conspiracy. For solid facts and news instead of rumors and speculation, go to Motorola's update page to see status on upcoming updates for each Motorola device.
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Which doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. We know they've PROMISED us Marshmallow. That's the problem. They still have not delivered it to us.
Motorola will not anywhere tell us WHEN we are getting Marshmallow. Yet they are rolling it out to other lower tier models.
The first post of this thread from beginning of October 2015 is about Motorola/Lenovo PROMISING us in writing the Quark will get Marshmallow. So, your remark adds nothing to the discuss we don't already know.
That official Motorola blog post was made October 2, 2015. We are now at end of January 2016. Keep counting the months...
What we are discussing is the delay and even broken promises implicit in buying the highest spec, most expensive phone Motorola makes.

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Which doesn't tell you anything we don't already know.
They've been promising since October in writing (see first post of this thread) to give us Marshmallow, yet have not yet. Keep counting the months...
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It's still pending carrier support as per Moto site. The purpose of the site is to provide updates to eliminate what's going on in this thread.
Still, the most reliable source is that page. I'm not sure what else they can say to provide updates to the population. Also note that they don't have ETAs on that site so we could expect Marshmallow at any date, but the fact of the matter is that we WILL get the update.
It may sound repetitive to you, but it beats having OEMs that leave customers in the dark in these situations.
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It's still pending carrier support as per Moto site. The purpose of the site is to provide updates to eliminate what's going on in this thread.
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Most of the Quarks do NOT need carrier support. The Brazil, Mexico and India OEM XT1225 were sold directly from the factory. Updates come straight from Motorola. Try again.
My Mexico Moto Maxx XT1225 came straight from China factory to Mexico, where it was re-shipped by an XDA member to my U.S. address. Not sold by any carrier. I received tracking updates all the way.
The India Moto Turbo XT1225 is totally factory, with no carrier affiliation.
This is why India, Brazil factory, Mexico factory Quarks received Lollipop (April 2015) before the other Quarks that were tied to carriers. Verizon Droid Turbo was the last Quark to receive Lollipop in July 2015.
I own three XT225, running two of them as daily phones on AT&T (and one is a backup still in the box). LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. Motorola could give me Marshmallow today by releasing it for the non-carrier phones.

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Most of the Quarks do NOT need carrier support. The Brazil, Mexico and India XT1225 were sold directly from the factory. Updates come straight from Motorola. Try again. I own three XT225, running two of them as daily phones on AT&T.
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And does Motorola provide information about those variants? I was solely talking about the Droid Turbo(VZW). Perhaps if you go on their site and look it up, you'll get your answers for your phones. Patience...
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And does Motorola provide information about those variants? I was solely talking about the Droid Turbo(VZW). Perhaps if you go on their site and look it up, you'll get your answers for your phones. Patience...
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To answer that question, look at my post IN THIS SAME THREAD from October 3, 2015:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63114883&postcount=4
I even included screenshots of the Motorola Update website. Nothing has changed since then.
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014
https://motorola-global-es-latam.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1984
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That site is almost useless, I keep telling you. All Motorola will say is YES, the international Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo/U.S. Droid Turbo (most of of the Quark models) will receive Marshmallow. The same thing they said in the official blog back on October 2, 2015 -- mentioned in the first post of this thread. They've been saying that since beginning of October 2015.
WHEN they do actually roll it out -- going by past history -- the Brazil/Mexico/India OEM models will receive it first, followed by carrier-affiliated variants like Puerto Rico/Claro XT1225 and U.S. Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254.
Let me correct/clarify something I said earlier. I said the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 was the last to receive Lollipop. While that's true, one Quark NEVER officially received Lollipop -- the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers. It has identical FCC ID as the Droid Turbo -- it's a U.S.-sold non-Verizon "Droid Turbo", just released under a different model name. (The "Droid Turbo" is not exclusive to Verizon, in the U.S.) Sold in the U.S., has the exact same LTE bands as the Droid Turbo, with fully unlock-able bootloader (FREE) via Motorola website. Lots of people bought it, rooted it, ran it on Verizon long before the Sunshine bootloader unlock method became available for the Droid Turbo. It's basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo, but you can't buy it from Verizon. But Motorola left the XT1250 on Kitkat 4.4.4. Of course, rooting it and installing a 5.1.1 custom ROM trumps that.
But the fact that Motorola completely abandoned one Quark -- the highest spec phone they sold -- proves my point that they cannot be trusted. That Quark, the XT1250 was called the Moto Maxx, is not even included in the Marshmallow promise. It's not listed under the U.S. phone section.
Yes, my "international" XT1225 phones (3 of them!) will EVENTUALLY get Marshmallow. But WHEN? Motorola is delaying it as much as possible, it seems. We're just complaining about that, and wondering WHY. I paid average of $700 each for my first two Quarks, when first released. I recently bought a 3rd XT1225 for much less, but of course it's now a year later. Just have it as a backup -- as I'm not impressed by the Kinzie successor (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Play). This phone was the best phone when released in 2014 and is still the best for me. I have an LG G4 I got for free, still in the box as this phone meets my needs so much better.

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back
http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder...sort_order=desc&keywords=XT1096,XT1097,XT1095
The updates went to the WiFi Alliance for certification. Maybe AT&T and VZW will stop dragging their feet and let us have it.

Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow

hassanabid94 said:
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
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So they can sell you a new phone of course same reason batteries are no longer user replaceable. Carrier greed.

I'm guessing this is still part of the story. Pure speculation, but perhaps Moto offered the stock updates, the carriers said OK, now go add all this bloat and test that everything still works, and Moto said we don't have the resources to test your bloat... I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is more to it that just what we know.

I think Motorola hands the software over to the carriers and they add and test it. I'm thinking that there is something to an agreement to sell a particular phone that guarantees a certain number of updates or something like that and that agreement is up for the 2014 Moto X with the carriers.
So in that case Motorola can make the update but the carriers aren't obligated to release it.
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If this is the case, why hasn't the Pure Edition/XT1095 gotten the update? It seems odd to me that they would willingly hold up an update for the XT1095 so that they could release it at the same time as the carrier versions of the phone... My guess (just a guess) is that they might still be working on stability with some of the Moto features when run on Marshmallow.

What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.

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What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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Maybe it's just me (I very well could be hallucinating) but I've always noticed that before I get an update my battery life gets a tad wonky. It's gotten to the point where if I go a few days where my battery dies more quickly than usual I'm like "Wait, are they going to push an update, soon?"
Again, I could be hallucinating. :silly:

This changes everything and makes it a totally avoidable PR disaster. Everyone was ready to lynch Motorola for not updating the carrier versions. The fact that Moto didn't speak out about the carriers blocking it is fascinating and I can't figure out why they'd do it., since they don't really need carriers anymore as they sell everything unlocked, unless maybe they still put them in retail locations or if they have enterprise deals for backend systems. Either way if this is true, Motorola is jumping on a grenade to save someone else.
We'll see how the rest of the life cycle of these phones goes, but maybe I can buy another Moto after all. If they keep punctual updates coming, maybe a black friday 2016 X is in my future.

People should stop bashing phone manufactures when it's usually the carriers fault for the lack of updates. This is very typical in the US where AT&T and VZW are the biggest blame since they control the major herds.
Phone manufactures provide the updates, but it's up to carriers (and their carrier branded phones) to decide if they want an older phone to receive an update or just fool mindless sheep and let them them buy a new phone if they want the latest and greatest. Simple as that.
Also.... Welcome to the consumer era! Where anything is old the next day! Why spend precious time on old hardware when they can sell you a new fancy phone for the same price or twice as much?! You know you can't say no to that if you're technologically impaired!

So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?

JulesJam said:
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?

AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?

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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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It was verizon. All the Moto X 2014 models will get one last update to 6.0, except for the verizon and at&t models which will stay on 5.1 which it has now.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.cl/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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I have a MM ROM on my tablet and I really don't see what the fuss is about. The Moto X 2014 is still a great phone. MM doesn't bring anything really new to the table. I'd much rather have root than an OTA.

For me I was hoping that the MM update would finally fix the bluetooth/wifi issues that have plagued this phone since I got it.

Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...

OrenGazala said:
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
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The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.

titotito1983 said:
The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
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I already know that...
This thread is about xt1096 verizon and xt1097 at&t models and they are not in the list.