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With any of the 2.1 roms out my camera is just either slow or takes blurry pictures. 5 PIXELS MY ASS. WTF!
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I have issues even with my 1.5 stock, slow to shoot, slow to record, just overall slow.
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With any of the 2.1 roms out my camera is just either slow or takes blurry pictures. 5 PIXELS MY ASS. WTF!
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I don't have any issues. Perhaps you have a hardware problem?
No issues here either. My pictures come out crystal clear. Lay off the cocaine and your hands wont shake so much
mine is the same, has a white haze in any pic i take. i think it has something to do with the 2.1 builds.
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The HTC hero definitely has a poor quality camera. It is because the light sensor has trouble working too well in dark environments. Also, the shutter speed is very very slow, the slowest shutter speed of any digital camera i've ever used on any phone.
On 2.1(any rom) it seems the shutter speed is even slower. This is probably due to a bug in the 2.1 camera driver.
Take a picture on your HTC hero with 2.1 of something that's moving. I guarantee you it will be VERY blurry. Take it with 1.5, it will still be blurry, but not nearly so much.
Now take it with, for example, the droid. It will come out perfectly on the motorola droid running 2.1 with it's 5MP camera.
Megapixels don't equal quality level >> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
If you still get lousy pics, check your lighting, and clean the camera lens cover.
If you STILL get lousy pics, take the phone back and get a refurb replacement.
hahah the camera is just lousy. tried doing a fix and yadda yadda. everything is blurry. maybe it is cocsine hands haha
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Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
If you still get lousy pics, check your lighting, and clean the camera lens cover.
If you STILL get lousy pics, take the phone back and get a refurb replacement.
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What he said. I was almost as disappointed with the Hero camera as I was with the Moment. However if you set it to 800 and make sure you change the lighting manually too you can take pretty good pics. Not as good as we would all like, but still good.
ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"
ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"[/QUOTE
pretty soon cameras will be just as good on a cell phone as without. technology is getting better. my bro has the droid and the camera is 5x better than the hero. haha
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Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
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Uh...I don't have an ISO option under settings.
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Uh...I don't have an ISO option under settings.
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Then your camera app is busted.
You started the camera, pulled out the tab, then tapped on the 'gears' (for settings) right?
No issues here either. My pictures come out crystal clear. Lay off the cocaine and your hands wont shake so much
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Damn I really thought it was the camera!
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ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"[/QUOTE
pretty soon cameras will be just as good on a cell phone as without. technology is getting better. my bro has the droid and the camera is 5x better than the hero. haha
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ummmm no they wont....... they cant be the laws of physics wont allow a lens that is the size of a thumb tack to reproduce and image as well as an optically aligned lens no amount of software can fix opticaly inferiorority.
but im not going to argue with you about it becuase it people like you that think that just because you have a digital camera that your a "photographer" and cheapen the art that many people persuewith passion.
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ummmm no they wont....... they cant be the laws of physics wont allow a lens that is the size of a thumb tack to reproduce and image as well as an optically aligned lens no amount of software can fix opticaly inferiorority.
but im not going to argue with you about it becuase it people like you that think that just because you have a digital camera that your a "photographer" and cheapen the art that many people persuewith passion.
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I agree. Not every idiot with a camera is a photographer. Mostly they're just idiots.
There's just no way around it, the Hero's camera is rather disappointing hardware wise, however it is on par with most other (lower end) cell phone cameras. It works for quick snapshots like it was designed, so I don't really complain.
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There's just no way around it, the Hero's camera is rather disappointing hardware wise, however it is on par with most other (lower end) cell phone cameras. It works for quick snapshots like it was designed, so I don't really complain.
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Exactly. It is what it IS. It's not MEANT to take professional grade wedding photos...or photos that you plan to keep forever. It's meant for pictures to be shared on facebook, or flickr. More for social networking than 'hey, let's take all our vacation photos with the phone!'.
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I agree. Not every idiot with a camera is a photographer. Mostly they're just idiots.
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That is ridiculous. So what if i'm not a "professional" photographer. I STILL WANT high quality images when I DO decide to take a photo.
And guess what, the Motorola Droid, which is a cellphone if I am not mistaken..., can take pictures that are FAR higher quality than the HTC Hero.
The reason the hero's camera is so terrible is because of
1. The light sensor
2. Shutter speed
Now maybe I am wrong and the Droid really is a digital camera and that's why it is higher quality, but I have a feeling that HTC just put a ****ty camera on this phone...
How's the shutter speed on the camera? My wife loved the iPhone 4G's camera speed but didn't like losing 10 calls a day. We've tried the Captivates but couldn't stand the GPS issues. So.. now we are on the Nexus'. I was looking at the X10 for here because of the 8.1...
Thanks!
depends on ur photo size, its finne to me when the photo size is 2.0
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what is this 2.0 you speak of? i'm assuming that's a lower setting?
so if you turn it up to the highest resolution it's not fine?
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depends on ur photo size, its finne to me when the photo size is 2.0
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Hello hallfleming,
I have a X10 and i can say about the pics is great in any resolution, the shutter is quicker, but will be quicker after september update (Android 2.1), one of the most normal reasons that a shutter can take longer its cause if you have many stuff in your SD Card can take a little, but that i think its normal in all the phones,
Any other question about X10i that i can help please ask,
Alexandre
P.S: About the GPS lock its quick as 30 seconds locking (if you are not at a place without windows close).
I get gps fix in max 10seconds when outside, i'm truly amazed by this phones gps!
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Btw did you know, our gps is alot more accurated than icrap on high speed? Check youtube for a test on shinkansei train in japan.
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Add the app radar on the market for an even quicker gps lock.
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honestly the x10s camera is amazing.....the quality of the photos are comparable to some cheaper/older point and shoots
And using the Camera 360 app makes the camera better. You can use very low compression on images, getting a sharp details.
Idk what settings does eveyone use for general pictures i get crap quality pics that are blurry
You need some light you know ?
Disable image stabilization (will just make your pictures soft).
Always try to take pictures with sun in the back.
Use EV -3 or -7
Depending on what you shoot play with the metering modes.
When you don't have enough light, you can enable the stabilization.
And again, take some time to play with the metering modes
Best camera phone ive had. I use it in tandem with fuji finepix 12m pixel. Quality is excellent, and thats comin from a proffesional moaner turning 40 soon...
@Tux - Where is the EV setting?? I've just been rummaging around the settings in the camera app and I can't find anything with a range which covers that...
Main screen on the right hand side.. the +/-
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Best camera phone ive had. I use it in tandem with fuji finepix 12m pixel. Quality is excellent, and thats comin from a proffesional moaner turning 40 soon...
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m8 is it possible to get some low light/night images? Can you take some night landscapes, and indoor images just to see night quality of x10. It is really hard to find those. Thanks in advance!
after almost 4000 pics taken with x10, as a camera phone freak, i would say, the camera is pretty fine outside, but crap inside, my favorite settings are "face detection, metering -average, stabillzation OFF, and EV 0 or -0.7
Or is mine bad?!? Seriously, is no one else getting this problem with blown highlights and over-exposure, or are y'all accepting it? I bought this phone for its "superior camera" and while yes it can take pictures in low light I was not willing to give up taking good pictures in good lighting >8(
I installed Android Revolution 8, then 9, to get the "updated" camera- stock kernel, Dev. Ed.
Attached photo taken with stock camera with auto settings, no custom settings, no hdr (though that has been disappointing as well). Oh and white balance was about 5-800 Kelvin too yellow as well... (sigh)
So do I send it back to get cameras as good as everyone else's or start watching the Sony rumors again? Because my 18 month old Galaxy Note could get this picture right...
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The camera is awesome, its just you have to play around with the settings. Cange the sharpness to -1 and contrast to +1 for day light pictures. Also focus manually before taking pics.
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What were u expecting from a phone camera?
If you want realy good pictures you need to buy a good standalone camera..
The time isnt still there (and will be for along time) before phone cameras can compete with good standalone cameras...
I also find the camera disappointing. I love the software features like Zoe, but I personally can't rely on this camera to quickly capture a good picture. And I don't think the low light performance is very good either.
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Those pictures do not look nearly as good as pictures I have taken with mine,using stock settings. Here's a couple for example. The pictures look a lot better in original format as well in full resolution.
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I love this camera, it lacks the raw specs but it manages to capture those special moments very well, better than even a camera.
The camera has impressed me so far, especially the speed and the amazing colours.
Completely stock trickdroid settings for camera here
@jeeptrash love your cat
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My camera is working fine too
it's not perfect but it works
john291 said:
What were u expecting from a phone camera?
If you want realy good pictures you need to buy a good standalone camera..
The time isnt still there (and will be for along time) before phone cameras can compete with good standalone cameras...
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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The overexposure thing is a little annoying it's true. HDR mode seems to recover lost shadow detail but doesn't seem to help with blown-out highlights.
Setting contrast to +1 is definitely *not* going to help it.
When you know there will be difficult highlights, setting exposure to -1 in normal non-HDR mode seems like the only response. Not ideal I know. Especially when making such a simple, temporary adjustment requires a lot of fiddling around with menus.
Yep, been playin with my camera all day, had no work in. Found the adjustment settings werent fine enough - swung too much one way or the other on +/- 1.
And indoor pictures where theres any daylight showing (doors/windows etc) caused the images to be washed out, even when focused on the lightest part first.
I think the hardware is fine, just some software improvements are needed. So its not all bad.
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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Hello yes it have the white balance problems sometimes..
I think they need to finetune the software better..
But it can also make some nice pictures too...
But a fine tuned software would be great..
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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By the way this was a simple picture i took out of my window..
Here i like the shadow detail and the natural look of it..
The camera does over expose yes. If you want an easy to use camera. Get the S4/iPhone 5.
Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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You can control iso but you cant get below 100..
The shutter speed cant be controlled manual..
The exposure can be set.
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Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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ISO & exposure yes, you can, and even better if you want to monkey with settings for every shot I recommend FV-5 which I use frequently
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5mbGF2aW9uZXQuYW5kcm9pZC5jYW1lcmEucHJvIl0.
The point of my post though is not to find workarounds but to see if this is COMMON, or my camera chip has issues.
I'm puzzled by the lack of complaints out there and feel like the photo I posted was a good example of average sunny day conditions, done badly. Indoors, low light, we're fine, it's the sunny days that are the issue.
Everyone quiet means either
a) everyone is accepting poor quality sunny day photos
b) my camera has issues and everyone else's is fine
c) everyone is feeling a little bit bad that the camera they were promised would offer 'a great leap in the quality of point-and-shoot photos and video' (http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/) frankly isn't, and reluctant to say so, or
d) other?
So everyone shooting sunny day pics please chime, in I appreciate your input- if your pics are coming out great without clipping I'll start the RMA process, or if yours are getting blown I'll fire up the angry fan-boi machine and pester every HTC channel I can hit with requests for a camera update.
Cheers,
Dave
The latter option.
I second, go for the latter
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ISO & exposure yes, you can, and even better if you want to monkey with settings for every shot I recommend FV-5 which I use frequently
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5mbGF2aW9uZXQuYW5kcm9pZC5jYW1lcmEucHJvIl0.
The point of my post though is not to find workarounds but to see if this is COMMON, or my camera chip has issues.
I'm puzzled by the lack of complaints out there and feel like the photo I posted was a good example of average sunny day conditions, done badly. Indoors, low light, we're fine, it's the sunny days that are the issue.
Everyone quiet means either
a) everyone is accepting poor quality sunny day photos
b) my camera has issues and everyone else's is fine
c) everyone is feeling a little bit bad that the camera they were promised would offer 'a great leap in the quality of point-and-shoot photos and video' (http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/) frankly isn't, and reluctant to say so, or
d) other?
So everyone shooting sunny day pics please chime, in I appreciate your input- if your pics are coming out great without clipping I'll start the RMA process, or if yours are getting blown I'll fire up the angry fan-boi machine and pester every HTC channel I can hit with requests for a camera update.
Cheers,
Dave
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I have posted few times in this forum about disappointing camera or my expectation is too high. Maybe the next HTC software update would fix them. I like the speakers though which is undeniable to be the best.
Camera is superb.
But it's not all things to all men. If you prepared to fanny around with lighting, settings, angles etc for a photo, and expect a high res masterpiece, this isn't your bag. If you want a point and shoot camera which takes nr unbeatable pictures quickly, then this is it.
Mega bright lights will screw any photo up. Your picture is remarkable given the phone was able to cope at all.
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has anyone been able to find a video camera app that solves the slow stock video camera focusing? on my g2, it takes up to 8 sec for the camera in 1080p 60fps mode to focus. and you have to have the phone be still for the camera to register it's time to focus. if there's any movement and the video is currently blurry, it will stay blurry til the phone has been perfectly still for some seconds. it's very annoying. this was not the case on my gs4 or my lumia 920. both of those would focus regardless if the phone was moving or not.
yeah the video camera is pretty damn awful on this phone. hoping a dev makes a mod that can lock focus like the gs4 does.
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Both photo camera and video camera are pretty bad. Pictures don't look nearly as bad though. Videos are just terrible. I'm hoping what the guy above me said.
Just tap where you want to focus. It tracks whatever object you tap.
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The only time where I say slow focusing is under low light conditions. Besides that, I just tap where I want to focus and it locks on pretty quick.
Why do I remember a manual focus option on this phone?
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Why do I remember a manual focus option on this phone?
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because it's there for pics not videos.
also, the framer ate drops even below 30fps when in lower light. I don't mean darkness, i mean room lighting. it's pathetic.
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Mine doest do more than 1-3 max to focus in 1080p 60fps...its the F320S k version.
Well, I bought this phone to be a decent pocket cam as well and bought into the 1080p 60fps hype. Disappointed that it is awful for indoor recording at a gym and even in good lighting shows blurriness. Wasn't the 60fps a big selling point for their camera? I'm hoping it's a software or kernel issue but at the moment, LG has gotten me twice with their specs marketing.
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Not trying to be flippant here, but are you aware of many other smartphones that can do what you were expecting this one to?
Just thinking that perhaps the combination of fast moving objects and relatively low light without being able to manually compensate is just unrealistic for most smartphones. I've never been much of a sports photographer so if others could help us out that would be great.
Higher the frame rate the greater need for available light this holds true for shutter speed as well. It's just physics at work. Even a high speed film camera needs more light to properly expose at high frame rates or shutter. You can compensate with higher iso but only to a point plus the grainier it will be. Remember light is your friend.
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@mediumraresteak
Not trying to be flippant here, but are you aware of many other smartphones that can do what you were expecting this one to?
Just thinking that perhaps the combination of fast moving objects and relatively low light without being able to manually compensate is just unrealistic for most smartphones. I've never been much of a sports photographer so if others could help us out that would be great.
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Yes I can think of a phone. Nokia lumia 1020 or 920 or 925. I have a 1020. Have tested these both side by side and the 1020 in low light video recording doesn't blur half as bad as my g2. That doesn't mean I don't like my g2, it just means the camera for video recording didn't live up to my expectations. For pictures it's nice. In 30 fps mode there is a tap to focus after you start the recording. But in 60 fps mode there is only auto focus and it pretty slow. Why they would not give the best quality mode no focus other than its slow auto focus makes no sense.
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I recently saw an ad on TV for the camera and it says you can take pictures of fast moving objects and have no blur. Every picture I take with a moving object comes back with a blur. Any ideas? What's the best shooting mode? I took the attached photo with sports mode and didn't change any of the settings.
Try sports mode, if that ain't helping, take the ISO off of auto, mess around with it, helped a lot for me.
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I'm wondering as well. Sport mode still doesn't capture even slow moving objects
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Nothing I've found will stop that. Different camera apps will at least blur instead of ghosting.
Try super camera. Lower the exposure time to- 12. Will improve blur but lower love light performance
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These are pics with my kids jumping around and going crazy.
First one is exposure at +12
Second is exposure at default
3rd us at- 12.
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I recently saw an ad on TV for the camera and it says you can take pictures of fast moving objects and have no blur. Every picture I take with a moving object comes back with a blur. Any ideas? What's the best shooting mode? I took the attached photo with sports mode and didn't change any of the settings.
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Sports mode or setting ISO1600 are your only real options.
Taking a sharp, indoor picture with anything shy of a dedicated (and expensive) camera is a pipe dream.
For reference, I have a Sony NEX-6 and 50mm f/1.8 lens. This combo goes for around $1000. I can shoot ISO6400 and f/1.8. Indoors, that will usually do the trick, but it isn't guaranteed.
I also have a Sony RX100 (best point and shoot you can by). Again, even at ISO6400 and the largest aperture possible, it's going to be tough to capture fast movement indoors.
The commercials are stupid and misleading. Sorry guys.
I second lattiboy's post.
I own a Nikon D7100, even with a premium lense with F/1.4, indoors you need to raise the ISO to get atleast 1/125 to start freezing motion.
You are expecting the unreal.
Thanks for the replies. I'll try a different app and keep messing around with it. I'm not expecting top notch pics, but if they advertise it they should live up to it.
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I second lattiboy's post.
I own a Nikon D7100, even with a premium lense with F/1.4, indoors you need to raise the ISO to get atleast 1/125 to start freezing motion.
You are expecting the unreal.
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...or a Xenon flash...
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...or a Xenon flash...
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A Xenon flash will only light up the foreground. Flash is something that should be used only if you really have to... Or you can put up multiple flashes. Then you mess up the white balance
Perfectly adequate for loads of situations. I'd take broken white balance vs a completely blurred and unusable pic
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