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camera quality and shutter speed

How's the shutter speed on the camera? My wife loved the iPhone 4G's camera speed but didn't like losing 10 calls a day. We've tried the Captivates but couldn't stand the GPS issues. So.. now we are on the Nexus'. I was looking at the X10 for here because of the 8.1...
Thanks!

depends on ur photo size, its finne to me when the photo size is 2.0
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what is this 2.0 you speak of? i'm assuming that's a lower setting?
so if you turn it up to the highest resolution it's not fine?
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depends on ur photo size, its finne to me when the photo size is 2.0
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Hello hallfleming,
I have a X10 and i can say about the pics is great in any resolution, the shutter is quicker, but will be quicker after september update (Android 2.1), one of the most normal reasons that a shutter can take longer its cause if you have many stuff in your SD Card can take a little, but that i think its normal in all the phones,
Any other question about X10i that i can help please ask,
Alexandre
P.S: About the GPS lock its quick as 30 seconds locking (if you are not at a place without windows close).

I get gps fix in max 10seconds when outside, i'm truly amazed by this phones gps!
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Btw did you know, our gps is alot more accurated than icrap on high speed? Check youtube for a test on shinkansei train in japan.
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Add the app radar on the market for an even quicker gps lock.
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honestly the x10s camera is amazing.....the quality of the photos are comparable to some cheaper/older point and shoots

And using the Camera 360 app makes the camera better. You can use very low compression on images, getting a sharp details.

Idk what settings does eveyone use for general pictures i get crap quality pics that are blurry

You need some light you know ?
Disable image stabilization (will just make your pictures soft).
Always try to take pictures with sun in the back.
Use EV -3 or -7
Depending on what you shoot play with the metering modes.
When you don't have enough light, you can enable the stabilization.
And again, take some time to play with the metering modes

Best camera phone ive had. I use it in tandem with fuji finepix 12m pixel. Quality is excellent, and thats comin from a proffesional moaner turning 40 soon...

@Tux - Where is the EV setting?? I've just been rummaging around the settings in the camera app and I can't find anything with a range which covers that...

Main screen on the right hand side.. the +/-
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Best camera phone ive had. I use it in tandem with fuji finepix 12m pixel. Quality is excellent, and thats comin from a proffesional moaner turning 40 soon...
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m8 is it possible to get some low light/night images? Can you take some night landscapes, and indoor images just to see night quality of x10. It is really hard to find those. Thanks in advance!

after almost 4000 pics taken with x10, as a camera phone freak, i would say, the camera is pretty fine outside, but crap inside, my favorite settings are "face detection, metering -average, stabillzation OFF, and EV 0 or -0.7

Camera Guide for SGS2?

Hi there,
Is there a guide available for the SGS2 camera? i received my device with no guide of the camera and I really want to know about "beauty shot", "action shot" (which im having a hard time getting useful shots with) and "outdoor visibility" which seems to brighten up the screen but not the resulting image.
anyone can shed some light onto those features and maybe post decent "action shots" made by him?
thanks!

Have a read through the attached manual. It does talk about the camera modes that you mentioned, as well as lots of other stuff.
Hope it helps

thanks alot man!
i still would love to see some "action shots though" from other people

"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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Isadora said:
"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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you are not right here my fried.
action shot is some kind of a panoramic shot (am i confusing options here?) that involves the camera tracking an object across a certain area while it is moving.
it also takes a few shots and not just one.

Ok so high shutter speed combined with multiple shots and possibly some kind of focus tracking (though that last bit would surprise me in a phone camera - will check it at some point!) As I've said, I'm not a fan of pre-set modes, they never quite do what I want! I'm a photographer btw so I'm just used to shooting in manual, including motorsport, I'm not sure I even know how to put my cameras in auto lol
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Edit: actually it *is* different to the sports mode (which is under "scenes") - my bad. Not quite proper focus tracking though, you have to follow whatever it is that is moving and then it combines the shots into a single picture quite clever really. Will have to try it for fun though my usual test subjects (the cats!) are asleep right now.
Edit 2: had a play... it's a bit weird you take the first shot, then follow the subject and the camera takes more pictures as and when 1) it has decided that you've moved enough (like with the panorama mode) and 2) thinks that whatever you're following is in focus (it failed a bit on that point tbh). That's what I don't like about auto-stuff... camera decides when it should do something, which isn't necessarily when I want it to do it. It is quite fun though. More testing needed have all day free tomorrow so will do it then

Right, best result so far... Not great tbh, I've found that if the object moves too slowly, pictures don't get taken because the camera doesn't realise it should; if the object moves too fast then the focus is a bit hit and miss. Then when it does manage to do what it should you have the problem of [ insert swear word of choice] auto exposure so in the attached pic you can easily tell where the pictures are joined.
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[Q] Video Camera Focusing

has anyone been able to find a video camera app that solves the slow stock video camera focusing? on my g2, it takes up to 8 sec for the camera in 1080p 60fps mode to focus. and you have to have the phone be still for the camera to register it's time to focus. if there's any movement and the video is currently blurry, it will stay blurry til the phone has been perfectly still for some seconds. it's very annoying. this was not the case on my gs4 or my lumia 920. both of those would focus regardless if the phone was moving or not.

yeah the video camera is pretty damn awful on this phone. hoping a dev makes a mod that can lock focus like the gs4 does.
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Both photo camera and video camera are pretty bad. Pictures don't look nearly as bad though. Videos are just terrible. I'm hoping what the guy above me said.

Just tap where you want to focus. It tracks whatever object you tap.
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The only time where I say slow focusing is under low light conditions. Besides that, I just tap where I want to focus and it locks on pretty quick.

Why do I remember a manual focus option on this phone?
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Why do I remember a manual focus option on this phone?
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because it's there for pics not videos.
also, the framer ate drops even below 30fps when in lower light. I don't mean darkness, i mean room lighting. it's pathetic.
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Mine doest do more than 1-3 max to focus in 1080p 60fps...its the F320S k version.

Well, I bought this phone to be a decent pocket cam as well and bought into the 1080p 60fps hype. Disappointed that it is awful for indoor recording at a gym and even in good lighting shows blurriness. Wasn't the 60fps a big selling point for their camera? I'm hoping it's a software or kernel issue but at the moment, LG has gotten me twice with their specs marketing.

@mediumraresteak
Not trying to be flippant here, but are you aware of many other smartphones that can do what you were expecting this one to?
Just thinking that perhaps the combination of fast moving objects and relatively low light without being able to manually compensate is just unrealistic for most smartphones. I've never been much of a sports photographer so if others could help us out that would be great.

Higher the frame rate the greater need for available light this holds true for shutter speed as well. It's just physics at work. Even a high speed film camera needs more light to properly expose at high frame rates or shutter. You can compensate with higher iso but only to a point plus the grainier it will be. Remember light is your friend.
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xyltha said:
@mediumraresteak
Not trying to be flippant here, but are you aware of many other smartphones that can do what you were expecting this one to?
Just thinking that perhaps the combination of fast moving objects and relatively low light without being able to manually compensate is just unrealistic for most smartphones. I've never been much of a sports photographer so if others could help us out that would be great.
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Yes I can think of a phone. Nokia lumia 1020 or 920 or 925. I have a 1020. Have tested these both side by side and the 1020 in low light video recording doesn't blur half as bad as my g2. That doesn't mean I don't like my g2, it just means the camera for video recording didn't live up to my expectations. For pictures it's nice. In 30 fps mode there is a tap to focus after you start the recording. But in 60 fps mode there is only auto focus and it pretty slow. Why they would not give the best quality mode no focus other than its slow auto focus makes no sense.
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Another camera question

So, I've come to terms with the camera, not so much conceding that it is broken, but knowing that the auto function (ai) needs improvement.
I have been instead using normal mode and manually adjusting iso for much better results. "I can live with this"
But, yesterday, I was at my daughters school and these on stage photos, with iso of 100, 200, 400 and then again on sports mode, were impossible... See below.
Couldn't get a noon blurred picture
How would you have taken this shot?
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Dslr
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With Xdabbeb's camera mod. Seriously, if something is causing you so much grief you have to just "live with this", that's a pretty crappy way to enjoy something you own.

Jeffruby said:
So, I've come to terms with the camera, not so much conceding that it is broken, but knowing that the auto function (ai) needs improvement.
I have been instead using normal mode and manually adjusting iso for much better results. "I can live with this"
But, yesterday, I was at my daughters school and these on stage photos, with iso of 100, 200, 400 and then again on sports mode, were impossible... See below.
Couldn't get a noon blurred picture
How would you have taken this shot?
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perhaps sports mode with negative exposure compensation might help

Took a photo of the moon last night with my G4

http://i.imgur.com/w3rOP4M.jpg
You can zoom in see a fair amount of detail considering it's a cellphone.
Also tried with a crummy little $8 telephoto clipon lens:
http://i.imgur.com/1lxXpNd.jpg
Not too shabby, if you ask me.

Just took it..
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Just took it..
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Didn't upload in first place
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Made one too [emoji14]
I'm satisfied with the camera. The pictures are clear and the autofocus is quick and great.
For taking quick and clean shots its the best cam I ever used.
On every phone I had someone was always complaining about the quality.
But you cannot expect an dslr quality cam which costs 2000$ or more in an 500$ phone lol

Cozmos23 said:
Made one too [emoji14]
I'm satisfied with the camera. The pictures are clear and the autofocus is quick and great.
For taking quick and clean shots its the best cam I ever used.
On every phone I had someone was always complaining about the quality.
But you cannot expect an dslr quality cam which costs 2000$ or more in an 500$ phone lol
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Agreed,
Best Smartphone camera I've ever had or seen before!
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keenerb, they came out nicely! I'm assuming you used manual mode to get it to expose the moon properly? It's nice that you can see the details on it. And having manual mode helps with these sort of pictures. Do you have a link to the $8 telephoto? That's interesting.
Cozmos23, Donald K, those are really cool! The clouds look awesome.
They're not taken on a G4, but I tried taking some pictures of the moon last week with my "real" camera. This is on a Nikon P7700, zoomed fully to 200mm, then cropped, because the moon was still small in the picture. I thought it was cool, especially the craters at the edge of the shadow. I only wish the camera had a longer zoom.
I only recently started playing with night shots, which I think are pretty interesting. The second is another one from the same night, still on my P7700. A 30 second exposure, ISO 800, f2.0. I think some of the subtle light variations you see going diagonally up to the right, around the bright star, may be part of the Milky Way? I'm definitely not an astronomer. But seeing light and dark areas that aren't just the normal individual stars is cool.
Please forgive me for posting non-G4 pictures. I was just "excited" because this is something I've recently started exploring. I should get a little tripod of some sort for my G4, since it can do 30-second exposures.

RedOCtobyr said:
keenerb, they came out nicely! I'm assuming you used manual mode to get it to expose the moon properly? It's nice that you can see the details on it. And having manual mode helps with these sort of pictures. Do you have a link to the $8 telephoto? That's interesting.
Cozmos23, Donald K, those are really cool! The clouds look awesome.
They're not taken on a G4, but I tried taking some pictures of the moon last week with my "real" camera. This is on a Nikon P7700, zoomed fully to 200mm, then cropped, because the moon was still small in the picture. I thought it was cool, especially the craters at the edge of the shadow. I only wish the camera had a longer zoom.
I only recently started playing with night shots, which I think are pretty interesting. The second is another one from the same night, still on my P7700. A 30 second exposure, ISO 800, f2.0. I think some of the subtle light variations you see going diagonally up to the right, around the bright star, may be part of the Milky Way? I'm definitely not an astronomer. But seeing light and dark areas that aren't just the normal individual stars is cool.
Please forgive me for posting non-G4 pictures. I was just "excited" because this is something I've recently started exploring. I should get a little tripod of some sort for my G4, since it can do 30-second exposures.
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now try and tell me that theres no god?? that is just so wonderful!!! thats just beautiful!!!!

Thats funny, I thought about taking a pic of the moon last night also......... But i didnt want a black picture with a teeny white dot in the middle.

Oh, to link this back to the G4 & photography: using the free "DSLR Remote" app, you can use the G4's IR blaster to trigger the remote shutter release on at least some cameras. It works with my Nikon.
For instance, you can use it to make the camera take a picture remotely, without jiggling the camera when you physically press the shutter button. Useful when on a tripod for long exposures, where stability is important. I admittedly usually just set a 1-second timer to accomplish the same thing.
One potential item of interest is the possibility of using this to take time-interval shots on cameras that may not natively have that feature. My Nikon has the ability to do interval pictures, but the shortest time interval is 30 seconds. I could use this app to get a 10 second interval, or something else the camera won't allow (a set # of pictures, etc).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.dslrremote

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This is weird but I also took pictures of the moon with my G4.
It was a 1 second exposure shot with me holding the phone so it's blurry but what a coincidence that a lot of people decided to do the same last night.
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Here's a picture set at a 30 second shutter speed and I think an ISO of 350.
In real life you can't see the clouds really at all and the sky is pitch black to the naked eye. Just an Experiment shot.
The stars look a little blurred but if you zoom in that's how much they move in the sky in 30 seconds time.

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DeadSOL said:
This is weird but I also took pictures of the moon with my G4.
It was a 1 second exposure shot with me holding the phone so it's blurry but what a coincidence that a lot of people decided to do the same last night.
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I did too, maybe fullmoon for everyone ?

If you zoom in, surprisingly its decent for a phone and actually, you can see some stars too.
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Striball said:
Here's a picture set at a 30 second shutter speed and I think an ISO of 350.
In real life you can't see the clouds really at all and the sky is pitch black to the naked eye. Just an Experiment shot.
The stars look a little blurred but if you zoom in that's how much they move in the sky in 30 seconds time.
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I'm not seeing any pictures in your post? When I replied, I noticed there is a Dropbox link in your post (it didn't show up for me originally), but I get an error message if I follow the link.

Holland

Mine took a picture of a UFO at night! What is the bright dot?

Berlin, Germany
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Holland
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Gave foto man! Die van mij ook in Nederland gemaakt.
English: Awesome pic dude! Mine is also made in Holland.
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