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I just realized my screen has some burned in. I mean, like the clock on the top right side. When I'm viewing video, I could still see the stain of the clock. Does anyone have the problem?? I've switched ROM and still see the burned text/clock..
I repair TVs for a living. And if its true burn in ... its permanent ... however for that to occur you would of had to keep the screen on for quite a while and a steady long period of time
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It can happen. I have the AM/PM burned in on mine, but it's only noticeable if I use Screen Test app.
I suggest you toggle the AM/PM off if your ROM allows it and use a thinner font. It's also a good idea to avoid white or bright themes.
My phone is less than a year old and I've noticed the same thing too. I've noticed letters from the keyboard a few times too.
My Vibrant has the same thing. It's not noticeable most of the time for me so I dont mind. I also had a Captivate last year that had a blue tint burned in around the entire perimeter of the screen.
I've had my phone since august and no burn ins here.
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Just call tmobile they will send a replacement. Ive sent two phones because of it.
Backup before you call. They will want you to do a factory restore for troubleshooting.
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Me too. rush pipe game cause some temporary burn in on my phone. I stop playing the game.
AMOLED = Miniature Plasma's?
If our screens behave anything like a plasma i'm wondering if you can fix it by using a similar "screen wipe" method that is used in plasma's. A lot of plasma owners confuse Image Retention (IR) for Burn In (BI). Burn in will never go away, but image retention will. If you don't want to send your phone back, you may want to try using a flashlight application that turns your screen all white. That way your screen is firing at full brightness and hopefully it can get rid of those ghost images on your screen.
funny to come across this thread...seeing as i just noticed my stain yesterday.....same thing for me, its the clock
could this be grounds for a brand new device??
I had a slight burn in since December of the AM/PM. However since than I changed to Military time and now I can only see the M in the clock area. It also helped that I changed ROMs and such. However It can get annoying. I may just have it exchanged though. Knowing that I will most likely get a refurbished one...
It is because of the AM/PM burn in that I try to use the hide clock option in EDT roms and CM roms. No more burn in!
TopShelf10 said:
funny to come across this thread...seeing as i just noticed my stain yesterday.....same thing for me, its the clock
could this be grounds for a brand new device??
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Have the same issue, though I only see it with the screen test application.
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If our screens behave anything like a plasma i'm wondering if you can fix it by using a similar "screen wipe" method that is used in plasma's. A lot of plasma owners confuse Image Retention (IR) for Burn In (BI). Burn in will never go away, but image retention will. If you don't want to send your phone back, you may want to try using a flashlight application that turns your screen all white. That way your screen is firing at full brightness and hopefully it can get rid of those ghost images on your screen.
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Hmm, I guess if it isn't true burn in, that would work.
Only way to test that is if your getting a replacement for burn in, go ahead and try that, running your screen at full brightness all white, and see if it goes away.
Its been about a month since the launch of the SGS2. I know it may be a bit early but has anyone noticed any image retention or screen burn? I haven't as of yet and I but i do keep my brightness usually on the lowest all the time im at home. Outside its on Auto.
Also even if anyone hasn't how long will it take to happen since I know that all OLed displays including TV's eventually retain images?
I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
Yeah, im trying to do that as much as i can especially changing the orientation with the market and some apps.
So once your pixels gets burned in, can you change them back to normal by putting a different colour over the burned area or is it for good?
I think UK as all the Europe uses 24h clock. So no need to worry about am pm burn in.
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I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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"4 MONTHS" any sign of any burn in on my screen and i`ll be looking for a replacement under the warrenty. If this is the case then i`m afraid the Amoled technology is a complete failure in my opinion...!!!
Basically LED displays comprise of 3 LEDs. Red, Blue and Green. When they lit up all together, the form white. Unlike the LCD technology, LED's are diodes which convert electricity into Light and hence they have a lifespan. They gradually start degrading which reduces the amount of light that they emit.
Blue has the highest tendency to degrade faster, hence the AMOLED screens have a Bluish tint to compensate for the same.
Suppose you use a 12 Hour clock and you have AM and PM displayed all the time, as a result of this, the blue pixels that are present at the AM, PM display location degrade, which causes a color imbalance. I.e the other pixels emit more light, but the "Burnt" pixels emit less light. At a later stage when the other 2 LEDs start getting burnt, you can see a patched up section, which represents the burnt pixels, which could be spotted on specific backgrounds.
There is no way to fix screen burn than to get a new display. There is a HUGE topic about screen burn in SGS section. It's worth a read.
I got my galaxy s in August last year and there is a large amount of burn in especially where the clock is.
You can check the individual colours in SGS tools or the xda app when you first open it.
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dhiru1602 said:
I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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I haven't had any burn-ins whatsoever with my SGS. I had it since October and used it everyday. None. Just checked after reading this thread. None whatsoever.
Koreans are very critical of things they buy. They are one of if not THE country where consumer reports are spread fastest due to their connectivity with the web. Things like this is just NOT accepted over there. And there would be a country outrage especially regarding Samsung products. I highly doubt this is the case. Maybe you have a one off defect.
The Burn-in is caused by the short life of the blue pixel.
I suggest don't make blue pixel lit in the status bar.
I don't know if there has any launchers could make Time and Signal status area displayed in yellow or green rather than white.
My nexus one had status bar burn in within the first month. Still there, no way to reverse it.
But using launcher pro is best solution which hides the status bar completely.
Same here I have had an S1 since it was launched. I used it heavily every day, the screen was on a lot as i used it as an ebook reader. There is zero burn in (checked using screen test).
A friend has one as well, which he bought at the same time as me, he is very critical of every detail, and there is zero burn in on his either.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
That's what two year warranties are for I guess. Like post above, I would love to hear of successful replacement for original sgs.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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Many people exchanged their nexus one, desire, galaxy s, for a new screen and the burn in just happened again after a month on the replacement. Not much can be done just live with it.
How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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richie_jones said:
I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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+1
warranty ain't issued by Samsung for nothing. Loving this phone. Its blazing fast since day 1 and ain't getting slower. Over 150 apps now installed. Still as fast ==3
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Doesn't effect the user much. Barely visible on daily use.
I9000 since august, no burn in so far , used everyday..
I9100 since, well less than a month, ofc no burn in
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How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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Its very very light, barely noticeable unless you look hard for it on white web pages. This is prob why not everyone sees it cause they are looking for something much worse.
I have a slight temporary image retention on my phone, it only lasts a few seconds after using the keypad or the circular lock screen etc , but its pretty noticeable on a dark background
Sure, it fades after a few seconds, but I'm quite concerned that it'll cause lasting damage over time.
I'll try get some snaps, later.. my phone is er, 3 days old
Anyone but me have this problem?
Haven't checked... and not going to do either.... as it's a non issue in normal usage (i'm seldom staring at a completely white screen just to see that the status bar area has aged the screen differently) and a "feature" of amoled technology
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It's there on most colors! I took white cause it is easier to see on a photo but it is there all the time! I'm not retarded!
And the worst part is that the little part that is whiter is the only part that is really sharp like it used to be, while the rest of the screen never is really white and sharp but instead has an uneven yellowish color. And it is worse than I could capture on photo.
I love my phone im not trying to mock it.
I'm not even gonna check
Because if I do, I'll notice it every single time I use the phone, and it'll annoy me to death.
If you don't see it you don't have it. It's there all the time. Of course it's only in games or reading stuff that is full screen. But anything except the black status bar!
Ditto problem.
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@marber45 I've observed the same thing a few weeks ago. I think already many SGS2's displays are suffering of this
I have this problem
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I noticed it just days before you made the post, interesting timing.
Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, I've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?
Same problem!
But in reality it is not a real problem..
AMOLED is still not ready for prime time, but at least Samsung is trying to improve on it with every iteration. Can't wait for 40"+ AMOLED HD TVs.
Before waranty goes off demand to change display..
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Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
Mine was delivered in may w/ 2.3.3, since I'm on a 2.3.5 based rom, I got better colors / sharpness and less side effects (greenish tint)
Maybe Samsung changed the way how to control the display? (hardware drivers)
just my 2 cents..
Yes
Just changed the screen last month
Now its ok
Dunno if it will be burned again
Also dunno what caused it
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Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
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Irrelevant. It's an AMOLED hardware-related thing, nothing to do with software. My screen has burn-in, your screen has/will, every screen does/will.
When somebody says their screen has none they just don't see it. Because really, all our phones one day or later will show it.
I don't use any apps that ever hide the status bar so even if I did have it, it wouldn't bother me.
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My notification area is a bit darker than the rest of my screen. It's only visible when screen is white, and I can't identify any leftovers from any icons like the battery or Wifi icon.
My SGS2 is about ½ year old, and in daily use it's no problem at all, but I wonder how it will look when my SGS2 is 1 or 2 years old
Update... Check this out.
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Update... Check this out.
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What do you want us to loook for ???
I have fallen in love with the Dashclock Widget. If you haven't tried it yet, I'd try it and see if you like it. It's very elegant and informational.
With that said, the widget integrates well with the "Day Dream" function. Basically, you can set it as something of a screensaver to scroll info about your phone throughout the day. I would like to be able to set day dream to "Static", which means I have the white text clock on a black background all day while charging at work. I would also have this set next to my bed as a faux alarm clock.
I have an older 2007 Plasma TV with a burned in ESPN scroll bar because I left the screen on a static image for too long. I would like for that NOT to happen with my new GS4.
Is there any chance of screen burn in with the GS4? I know the AMOLED is a much newer tech than the plasmas of old, but you can never be too sure.
Thanks! :good:
Yes. It will burn over time. It won't be as aggressive as a LCD or plasma screen, but it still burns. You should never leave your screen on with a black background and white text for hours. You should also not be charging it all the time as it appears that you want to. Charging produces heat, heat accelerates the burn. You should only charge the phone when it needs it.
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Yes. It will burn over time. It won't be as aggressive as a LCD or plasma screen, but it still burns. You should never leave your screen on with a black background and white text for hours. You should also not be charging it all the time as it appears that you want to. Charging produces heat, heat accelerates the burn. You should only charge the phone when it needs it.
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Thanks for the information!
Do you think turning the brightness to minimum would mitigate, or slow down, burn in issues?
There is also a "fade" option on day dream that fades the clock in and out every minute or so and places it on a new part of the screen. I think I'll stick to that for now.
Also, thanks for the charging tips. :good:
It will slow it down. But even with that you are looking at significant screen burn in about 6 to 8 months. Having a low screen brightness with the fade/ movement will be your best option.
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Doesn't seem like the clock or battery icon move around like Always On mode. Will this eventually cause burn in?
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
CuBz90 said:
The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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Ah!
I imagine the night clock woukd cause burn in ad it does stay in one place.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Unfortunately the battery icon and next alarm displayed doesn't change.
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I was wondering this and also worried about burn in , so I turned off night clock because it doesn't move, and I'm asleep so I don't need it on.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
I don't think it would. I have mine set to only stay on from 1AM until 5AM (the hours I'm most likely to wake up in the middle of the night and want to see the time.)
I don't think 4 hours is enough to cause burn in being how the pixels are lit up very dim when using the night clock.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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Everything is pure speculation regarding the AMOLED panel around here, so we won't really know anything concrete until something happens, or someone gets a nasty burn-in. I doubt anyone will get a nasty burn-in though, but I guess someone will get some burn-in down the road, but that's pretty much expected.
I have a Galaxy Note (first gen.) that I used for about 18 months before getting a new device, and I've borrowed it to my mom. I checked it out again this week after not checking it out for about two years, and the display looks like ****, but it doesn't look more **** as it did the day I gave it to her, so it's "bad" if I'm trying to edit some photos, but it's not catastrophically bad at all. The only place it's burnt in is the statusbar, which is black on pre-lollipop versions if I remember correctly.
Hi clever people
So I'm a bit confused. I found this thread because I was afraid of a burn-in caused by the night clock too.
And I won't use it. But how about the always on display, then - by using that, is there a risk of shortening the life of the pixels? In that case, I'd just turn it off. But if not, well, then it's a neat feature
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
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Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
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Thanks. I was more curious, though, as to how the Always on Display feature might affect pixels and the screen lifetime too, and thus, if it'd be better to not use this feature
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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False. AMOLEDS suffer burn in, and LCDs will rarely ever experience it.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
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No offense that is the most stupid reason I've heard not to use dark/black themes. White themes ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE BURN IN, PERIOD. You reduce burn in by reducing energy consumption and pixel usage.