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edit: *Burn in may not be noticeable at the early stages unless you examine the screen, I used "Screen Test" app from market, please download this or something equivalent, and examine your screen closely before you vote."
So this may not apply to those who just purchased their phone, but for those of you who got your phone around launch time, examine your phone for burn in. Use "Screen Test" from the market, and go through each color, looking for burn in. Oh this is a new addition, I noticed my burn in his worse when the screen is set to the lowest brightness setting. So repeat the test after you dim your screen.
I've had my phone over 2 months, downloaded "screen test" and guess what. The AM/PM up in the notification bar has burned in!
When you download "Screen Test" app, you will notice two things about your screen. Do not be alarmed, the following is normal.
1) Very thin green vertical line along left side of screen
2)Thin gray-shady horizontal bar on top, this is not the notification bar burning in.
What is not normal....BURN IN!
Can't believe the AM/PM is burnt in after 2 months. Shame.
Samsung has to update this by having the time hop around the notification bar instead of staying stationary.
Maybe a dev can work on this?
Got mine on launch day. No burn in.
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Got mine on launch day. No burn in.
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Did you examine the screen using "Screen Test" or an equivalent app?
got mine on launch and my PM is burned in =/
Screen test, from the market as you suggested.
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got mine on launch and my PM is burned in =/
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They really need to change the time and AM/PM stamp from being stationary, they need to make it hop around the notification bar, or something. This is horrible, 2 months and AM/PM is burning in!
I'm sure the signal bars, wifi, and other stuff in notification bar will start to burn in next.
I'm also worried about the battery full message that stays on all night, that will start to burn the screen too.
No burn in here. Got my phone the third week of August.
i always thought leds burned cooler so the idea of burn in never even occured to me on this phone or any other phone for that matter...i doubt a warranty calim would fix it because i think all these vibrants will eventually have burn in...it wouldnt be easy i think to have an animated notification bar, but CM6 does have an option to remove and modify stuff on the notification bar like time and signal, wifi etc.
For making me notice this, I hate you.
I don't always complain, but when I do, I #BlameWes
I have the green line on the left side and the gray bar up top, but no am/pm.
Do you guys leave the display on while it charges?
My display is only on while I use the phone, I got it around release date
Not totally for me, but I can see it faintly coming in. I have had this phone (my third one) for almost 2 months now.
I use beautiful widget works great had since day one in august screen is perfect
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I'm kind of curious why an AMOLED screen would get burn-in. There's no backlight, so the only image we see is coming from emitting pixels. Is there a coating on the glass that burns in?
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I'm kind of curious why an AMOLED screen would get burn-in. There's no backlight, so the only image we see is coming from emitting pixels. Is there a coating on the glass that burns in?
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Good question. Could the following be a possibility?
LED's eventually start to die off. Could areas that are always lit, for example the AM/PM is always on, thus those LED's are dying, which makes that area unable to to fully brighten, giving the impression of burning in, since the surrounding LED's are still bright.
That's just a guess on my part.
Also, are you sure Amoled's don't burn in, or is that just a guess/opinion/question on your part?
I can't really vote since I've only had it for a month and a few days, but I don't have any burn in. It's probably because it never disabled orientation flip and I do watch a some kind of video on the phone daily.
Had mine since day one. No burn in. my phone barely makes it to the charger most nights and some it needs an afternoon charge so I definitely use the phone quite a bit.
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Damn it. Did screen test. Area where signal bars and time would be are clearly suffering from burn in. Awesome! This, combined with the generally bad software is making me consider selling this and never buying a Samsung phone ever again. (Sad, because their TV's are the best of the bunch.) To be fair, it's only noticeable when you look for it during a white screen and only in that area. Still, really Samsung? I've had this phone for 2 and a half months.
Had my phone for about a month and a half now, ran screen test and am seeing burn in
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Got my Vibrant the day it launched - July 15th - no burn in, I use it quite a bit, but have the screen timeout after 30 secs.
Surely is burning in. Barely see it, but it is visible.
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Ok, i own my galaxy about 5 months. I turned the backlight to 0% in andromax, started the xda app and saw my battery, signal indicator and time as a shadow at the brown xda loadscreen. brightness was always set to auto.
I know this effect on plasma tvs, but with amoled, shouldn't be possible by design.
any thoughts are welcome
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It's usual degradation of OLEDs. As the statusbar is quite static those pixels that are always light degrade faster than pixels than other ("not so static") pixels.
Now the more degraded pixels are darker on the same voltage levels and this can be seen when the statusbar is hidden.
That's one of the disadvantages of OLEDs currently.
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Ok, i own my galaxy about 5 months. I turned the backlight to 0% in andromax, started the xda app and saw my battery, signal indicator and time as a shadow at the brown xda loadscreen. brightness was always set to auto.
I know this effect on plasma tvs, but with amoled, shouldn't be possible by design.
any thoughts are welcome
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Try rebooting your phone, then in the keypad dial *#0*# and test the screen with the options there check if there is any error in colour reproduction. Or test with images created with paint with only a single colour paint and test it with the screen on galaxy s.
If you observe any colour out of place or not uniform throughout, it might due to hardware issue of the amoled screen.
Hope this helps
checked via sgs tools secret codes (the code from above) lcdtest. degration is there for green and blue, hard to see in red.
will test some disco flash app, maybe it will get better like with plasma panels.
all in all, it is only annoying and the display will get damaged by design. I wonder, if there is a theme for the bar with less contrast grafics, like most tvstation did with there stationsymbol.
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The blue pixel organic compound of AMOLED will degrade the quickest. That's the reason these phones are programmed to be more blueish when new, so that as it degrades, the blue should still be visible until the screen dies.
I own my SGS I9000 now since the 25th of June and i don't have that problem, how long is your total amount of Screen on time? I think by intensive use my approx. Screen on time per day is about 2 h. 6 Months are 180 days a 2h are 360h. Industrial Keys for Control Panels with OLED Displays have a average lifetime of 15000h, newer one 30000h.
I don't knew the lifetime for Samsungs AMOLED Screens but i guess it sould be around 10 to 15k hours. So i would contact seller, or samsung service about that.
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In the UK you're covered by the Sale of Goods Act - the phone should be expected to last a good 5 years or so. I didn't agree to anything about a failing screen so if it doesn't last an appropriate time then I'll be expecting a replacement screen.
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You know what? I went to check my screen under white, red, blue and green; I have some burn in for the battery icon as well. Lol.
To avoid more damage, I will be using the device in varying orientation.
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I wonder how fast the SAMOLED will die if its used as a deskstand for 8hrs / day
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In the UK you're covered by the Sale of Goods Act - the phone should be expected to last a good 5 years or so. I didn't agree to anything about a failing screen so if it doesn't last an appropriate time then I'll be expecting a replacement screen.
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UK law says a product is expected to last 12 months however Samsung do have a 24 month warranty on this product which is nice. If i was you kempas i would have that repaired (screen replacement) as it's completely free except for the time it takes.
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Just remember to flash back a factory firmware before you send it to a repair centre, custom/modified firmware voids your warranty in any country.
I've got my phone for about 4 months, everyone else I know can see a visible silhouette on the AM/PM symbol with a blue/white image displayed on the screen.
I guess in a year's time its gonna be completely screen burned.. would this mean that SAMOLED is pretty much in infancty/trial stage?
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I turned the backlight to 0% in andromax,
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There is no backlight on AMOLED and SAMOLED screens.
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I wonder how fast the SAMOLED will die if its used as a deskstand for 8hrs / day
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Pretty damn quickly. Well it wont die, but burn-in will set in and the screen brightness will degrade.
Although if you use an app like alarm clock Plus it shouldn't be a problem. When it goes into screensaver mode it keeps the background black and only uses a small portion of the screen to display the time and date. It also moves the time and date around to prevent burn-in.
I use it at night when my phone is charging. The black pixels do emit a tiny amount of light but that shouldn't do any harm.
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I've had my my SGS for about 4 months, everyone else I know can see a visible silhouette on the AM/PM symbol with a blue/white image displayed on the screen.
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I've had phone for 6mths. Most of the time on 0% brightness. I never noticed it before but after reading your post I noticed the AM/PM burn in VERY VERY slightly (only on pure blue background)
From now on I'm using 24hrs clock format LOL.
Let's face it though guys, u can't keep a perfect screen forever. I even have a single stuck pixel but I learned to live with it. (1 pixel on a 480x800 screen is fairly unnoticeable, especially if it's a good colour).
It was not noticable till i read about this thread, i hate knowing things like this! hahah
Anyway we can fix the burn in ?
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The 24hr format barely helps since theres already a very faint image of the numbers burning in.
Im guessing after a yr of usage the screen burn will be very obvious... with this said im having 2nd thoughts of getting another AMOLED based screen haha
to fix LCD TV's you flush with white. so leave a pure white screen running over night. this kinda resets the crystals.
worth a try with the phone also with the galaxy s you need to have 8 dead pixels to change the screen so if affected area is over 8 pixel should be fine.
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The AM/PM sign is displayed by a white pixel so Im not sure displaying a white color overnight can help fix the issue.
Having the screen replaced is not an option here in where I live, its gonna take over 60-75 days for them just to replace the screen and chances are it will be a refurb screen or they will just outright refuse replacement since its a burn in.
The affected area is probably more than 8 pixels.
it resets the crystals so should work. worth a try if someone has a burn
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sorry not cyrstals the leds
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it resets the crystals so should work. worth a try if someone has a burn
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The AM/PM is displayed with a white color by default, so how can displaying a a full white screen fix/reset the image burn ?
btw the image burn is a faint black.
Im also guessing with the GB update they removed the AM/PM so help prevent screen burn and prolong the intitial burn instead of 4 months to probably 8 or 12.
I recently came across an article that states that AMOLED screens had problems with their screens burning in, especially the AM/PM on notification bar or the charging status of the phone if plugged in and left overnight. I also saw these problems on the Captivate thread here on XDA
So will it be the same problem with this phone?
I had an HTC Desire before upgrading to my SGSII recently. Had it for over a year and never had any problems with burn in.
I believe the AMOLED screen on the Desire was made by Samsung as well. Not sure how much the technology has changed with the super AMOLED +. I guess time will tell!
Same again.... I have a launch day Nexus One (18Months Old) and there are no signs of burn in/image persistence on the screen. Unless you are planning on leaving your screen constantly showing a static image I wouldn't waste your time worrying about it.
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There is a screen burn in post .
jje
I bought HTC Desire when it came on market and I havent seen any screen burn in.. Also I don't have any problems with SGS2..
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So it's not a good idea to use the phone as a bedside clock eh?
Hopefully it won't be as bad as this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15057550&postcount=4
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So it's not a good idea to use the phone as a bedside clock eh?
Hopefully it won't be as bad as this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15057550&postcount=4
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Ah ok that's the one from my thread. You must understand it's temorary... So it's not a "real" burn in. It disappears after 10 seconds.
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Ah ok that's the one from my thread. You must understand it's temorary... So it's not a "real" burn in. It disappears after 10 seconds.
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Good to know. But that still sucks though.
And on Galaxy S Variants the most usual permanent burn ins are the AM/PM on the not. bar that users post about.
There is a good chance for a burn in on the sgs2... but only if you use high brightness all the time, long screen on periods with no movement of graphics, so that the pixels can change.
tip: set your phone to 25% brightness (this will make the battery life even longer then 10% or 50%)
tip: set the phone turn off screen after 30 sec.
tip: Use a "Screen flashlight" app (fullscreen of red,green,blue etc) from time to time in all colors, to get all pixels changed and see if there is any problem.
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My nexus one has screen burn of the notification bar. Many of us have this issue. All amoled screens can have this problem, nothing you can do really.
That's my experience with SG2... nothing I can do about it!
I've tried running Screen Burn-In Tools (some app from Google Play) about an hour a day for a few days now and still the damn ugly burn-in is there!
Since I bought the phone from a dude, I can't return it to Samsung and stuff. Guess I should look closer when buying a phone from strangers! And I should've documented myself about the GS2 problems before buying one.
Didn't think an expensive phone could have these ridiculous problems!
Hi, I'm French so sorry for my English.
I use every day software called "iCoyote" to signal and be notified of fixed and mobile radars.
I've never let "iCoyote" running over 30 minutes.
Yet, I have a huge "Burn-In".
(on a I9100)
Photos (the last photo shows you how is "iCoyote" to compare with the screen burning).
My S GS II is now to the after-sales service since yesterday.
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Hi, I'm French so sorry for my English.
I use every day software called "iCoyote" to signal and be notified of fixed and mobile radars.
I never let "iCoyote" running over 30 minutes.
Yet, I have a huge "Burn-In".
(on a I9100)
Photos (the last photo shows you how is "iCoyote" to compare with the screen burning).
My S GS II is now to the after-sales service since yesterday.
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that does look really bad but the thing is if you are using that in the car and its infront of the sun as well it will get extremely hot...hopefully now that you have took it back they will sort it for you...but using the phone intensively it will get hot...just like computers or laptops even playstation..use them long enough they do start getting hot my friend..all the best hope it wont happen again
Dont these mobile screens have any threshold temperature values to turn off when reaching such temperatures???
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that does look really bad but the thing is if you are using that in the car and its infront of the sun as well it will get extremely hot...hopefully now that you have took it back they will sort it for you...but using the phone intensively it will get hot...just like computers or laptops even playstation..use them long enough they do start getting hot my friend..all the best hope it wont happen again
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Thank you for the answer .
I know the sun can be responsable but the problem is not present with a GPS device or many phones.
Samsung sells a car holder but if you use it, you kill your phone...
I've never used it more than 30 minutes in a row... And my screen is burnt...
I made this new topic to warn people. Be careful using this screen.
RaPiiDe said:
Thank you for the answer .
I know the sun can be responsable but the problem is not present with a GPS device or many phones.
Samsung sells a car holder but if you use it, you kill your phone...
I've never used it more than 30 minutes in a row... And my screen is burnt...
I made this new topic to warn people. Be careful using this screen.
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Nothing to do with heat, research amoled displays. The more you use a particular color the less bright over time the color pigment will be. Blue lasts the shortest, then green then red.
On my old galaxy s, the clock made a set of "burnt in" pixels in its place. On an all blue screen, the clock had obvious burn in, green screen less noticeable, red not noticeable. One idea could be to lower the brightness to reduce the effect, but it WILL happen to some degree. For me it isn't noticeable unless I look for it...
The ring you see is actually not "burn in" in the sense of old CRTs or plasma, in fact its the opposite. With burn in, if blue "burns in" you always see blue. Amoled is the OPPOSITE. The reason the ring above appears to be redish-green is because the blue is "depleted" more so than red or green. As I said before the colors deplete at different rates, thus blue will burn out sooner than green, green sooner than red. So for the ring you see above, on a screen meant to be 100% white, your "ring" will be maybe 80% blue, 95% green, 100% red based on how much brightness each sub-pixel has lost.
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Nothing to do with heat, research amoled displays. The more you use a particular color the less bright over time the color pigment will be. Blue lasts the shortest, then green then red.
On my old galaxy s, the clock made a set of "burnt in" pixels in its place. On an all blue screen, the clock had obvious burn in, green screen less noticeable, red not noticeable. One idea could be to lower the brightness to reduce the effect, but it WILL happen to some degree. For me it isn't noticeable unless I look for it...
The ring you see is actually not "burn in" in the sense of old CRTs or plasma, in fact its the opposite. With burn in, if blue "burns in" you always see blue. Amoled is the OPPOSITE. The reason the ring above appears to be redish-green is because the blue is "depleted" more so than red or green. As I said before the colors deplete at different rates, thus blue will burn out sooner than green, green sooner than red. So for the ring you see above, on a screen meant to be 100% white, your "ring" will be maybe 80% blue, 95% green, 100% red based on how much brightness each sub-pixel has lost.
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Maybe its because of sunlight...
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Maybe its because of sunlight...
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I know the sun can be responsable but the problem is not present with a GPS device or many phones.
Samsung sells a car holder but if you use it, you kill your phone...
I've never used it more than 30 minutes in a row... And my screen is burnt...
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Nothing to do with heat, research amoled displays. The more you use a particular color the less bright over time the color pigment will be. Blue lasts the shortest, then green then red.
On my old galaxy s, the clock made a set of "burnt in" pixels in its place. On an all blue screen, the clock had obvious burn in, green screen less noticeable, red not noticeable. One idea could be to lower the brightness to reduce the effect, but it WILL happen to some degree. For me it isn't noticeable unless I look for it...
The ring you see is actually not "burn in" in the sense of old CRTs or plasma, in fact its the opposite. With burn in, if blue "burns in" you always see blue. Amoled is the OPPOSITE. The reason the ring above appears to be redish-green is because the blue is "depleted" more so than red or green. As I said before the colors deplete at different rates, thus blue will burn out sooner than green, green sooner than red. So for the ring you see above, on a screen meant to be 100% white, your "ring" will be maybe 80% blue, 95% green, 100% red based on how much brightness each sub-pixel has lost.
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Thank you for this answer. Now, I understand that the screen is "used" and not burnt.
Always using auto brightness.
I can see a difference in the notification bar area when I put the phone in landscape, eg in the browser.
I've got the phone about 3 months and a half ago.. I've pretty used the phone. Using auto brightness.
I noticed over the last few days some burning in. I went to start a thread to see if anyone else had this and there is a thread also underway in the Q&A section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284984
That means any app that stays open (i.e. Car Home) can damage your screen. I had no idea, thanks. At least Car Home has the screen 90% black...
Thank's for the heads up and I will try not to use blue no more. (I did not think it would make a screen "burn out" so fast.) My 5 year old 32in Lcd hdtv I had dimed out to the point were it started becoming hard to see movies with dark themes. (I now have a 46in LED tv)
yep. I have Samsung Omnia II - first Samsung phone with AMOLED display. And noticed that time that blue pixels wear very fast.
It's pretty similar to plasma displays.
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yep. I have Samsung Omnia II - first Samsung phone with AMOLED display. And noticed that time that blue pixels wear very fast.
It's pretty similar to plasma displays.
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Yeah, a little research on AMOLED screens will reveal their struggles with finding blues that last anywhere near as long as green, much less red. Since it's an organic compound in the end, it's going to have a somewhat limited lifespan. How long it'll really last is going to vary by use, brightness, and luck of the draw.
Awww nuts!
That's a bit off-putting really but I'm glad I found out about the screen issue. I'm having a real to-and-fro battle trying to decide which phone to buy, Sensation or GSII. Each have their pros and cons.
when i had my mobile for like 3 days i was playing fruit ninja at highest brightness and all the slashing on the screen after 3-4 min i had a warning that screen temperature is high and it reduced brightness automatiacally but nothing happened to screen
Thanks for sharing this info, RaPiiDe. And thanks to ompuw22c for explaining this amoled specific issue.
Did anyone managed to get screen replaced, does warranty cover it?
My GS is almost 2 years old, but the screen is perfect. I guess that's because I set the screen the lowest bright unless I use it outside. Even though it's lowest bright, the screen is bright enough to do almost everything. I love superamoled.
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That means any app that stays open (i.e. Car Home) can damage your screen. I had no idea, thanks. At least Car Home has the screen 90% black...
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A respectable night docking app must do two very important things right:
a) must lower brightness to minimum
b) must move the image left/right/top/bottom by a few pixels every so often , to minimize strain on pixels.
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Yeah, a little research on AMOLED screens will reveal their struggles with finding blues that last anywhere near as long as green, much less red. Since it's an organic compound in the end, it's going to have a somewhat limited lifespan. ...
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Just so no one gets confused here: "Organic" in OLED does not mean "material came from once-living organism, or is a product of decay". It instead means "made from an organic compound" - where "organic compound" is a material that contains carbon. Another example of an organic compound is diamond. Carbon is basically everywhere
I have terrible usage from PowerAMP in car mode. Just got my USB jig though. Will most likely send it in for replacement.
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Doesn't seem like the clock or battery icon move around like Always On mode. Will this eventually cause burn in?
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
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The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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Ah!
I imagine the night clock woukd cause burn in ad it does stay in one place.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Unfortunately the battery icon and next alarm displayed doesn't change.
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I was wondering this and also worried about burn in , so I turned off night clock because it doesn't move, and I'm asleep so I don't need it on.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
I don't think it would. I have mine set to only stay on from 1AM until 5AM (the hours I'm most likely to wake up in the middle of the night and want to see the time.)
I don't think 4 hours is enough to cause burn in being how the pixels are lit up very dim when using the night clock.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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Everything is pure speculation regarding the AMOLED panel around here, so we won't really know anything concrete until something happens, or someone gets a nasty burn-in. I doubt anyone will get a nasty burn-in though, but I guess someone will get some burn-in down the road, but that's pretty much expected.
I have a Galaxy Note (first gen.) that I used for about 18 months before getting a new device, and I've borrowed it to my mom. I checked it out again this week after not checking it out for about two years, and the display looks like ****, but it doesn't look more **** as it did the day I gave it to her, so it's "bad" if I'm trying to edit some photos, but it's not catastrophically bad at all. The only place it's burnt in is the statusbar, which is black on pre-lollipop versions if I remember correctly.
Hi clever people
So I'm a bit confused. I found this thread because I was afraid of a burn-in caused by the night clock too.
And I won't use it. But how about the always on display, then - by using that, is there a risk of shortening the life of the pixels? In that case, I'd just turn it off. But if not, well, then it's a neat feature
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
kylelopez20 said:
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
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Thanks. I was more curious, though, as to how the Always on Display feature might affect pixels and the screen lifetime too, and thus, if it'd be better to not use this feature
brawlysnake66 said:
No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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False. AMOLEDS suffer burn in, and LCDs will rarely ever experience it.
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J.Biden said:
The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
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No offense that is the most stupid reason I've heard not to use dark/black themes. White themes ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE BURN IN, PERIOD. You reduce burn in by reducing energy consumption and pixel usage.