General Android Question about baseband/build/etc - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If I am running MI9 and I install a mj7 rom, why is it that I can easily restore to my MI9 backup but If I took the official OTA I would not be able to go back.
Sorry for the noob question. Oddly I mostly know what I'm doing with root/bootloader unlock/kernels but I don't understand this one completely lol
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immortal7792 said:
If I am running MI9 and I install a mj7 rom, why is it that I can easily restore to my MI9 backup but If I took the official OTA I would not be able to go back.
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The official update, updates the firmware. Just installing the mj7 ROM doesn't.

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Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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[Q] Options for upgrading to KitKat from 4.2.2 with TWRP

I stayed on 4.2.2 rooted with TWRP and never took the MJA/MK2 OTAs, to avoid knox. I've been waiting for KitKat, and I'm ready to take the plunge. I've read through a bunch of threads, and have thoroughly confused myself. I have a few basic questions, so I can determine what my options are:
1) Is it possible to go from MF9 (rooted) to NAE, and retain my data? What happens to the modifications I made to MF9 (hotspot, xposed, etc.)?
2) If the answer to 1 is no, is it reasonable to assume that there will be a flashable NAE rom in the near future, so that I wouldn't have to odin to MK2 before going through the OTA update to NAE?
3) Should I give up on trying to keep my existing bootloader, and just suck it up and take knox? It seems like there's probably enough differences in the rom and modem that the bootloader is probably a necessary evil at this point.
Thanks in advance for your help.
There have been several reports of people whose WiFi and data have worked just fine with the NAE ROM plus older bootloader like MF9. I'd wait until a stock rooted NAE ROM appears so we can try it with the knox-free MF9 bootloader.
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I am in the same situation and currently on a stock rooted MF9 with a custom recovery as well. I would like to know the best upgrade path to 4.4.2 and hopefully stay on a knox free boot loader.
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Once Warboy releases the updated stock, rooted NAE, I'm gonna flash it with Philz recovery to see whether everything's compatible with the Knox-free MF9 bootloader. In the meanwhile, I'm gonna flash just the NAE modem. Cant wait for Kitkat~! (Even though I've had the 4.4.2 update for a long time through my Nexus 5, I'm still very excited, LOL~)
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Im still on mdl lol.....maybe I should atleast update to mf9? Haha
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cfendrick said:
I am in the same situation and currently on a stock rooted MF9 with a custom recovery as well. I would like to know the best upgrade path to 4.4.2 and hopefully stay on a knox free boot loader.
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I'm in same boat
on MF9 , didnt even go to 4.3, still sitting at 4.2.2 (with the update icon in my status bar, but i assume its for 4.3 not kit kat)
Im rooted and have exposed installed
would rather have a knox free loader too!
if anybody can advise on the best route to take would be lovely
would like to have kit kat on my phone today!!
I was on this boat but last night flashed the gummy Rom. It is okay but I would love to have the stock Rom. I don't like few things on the Gummy.
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I was on this boat but last night flashed the gummy Rom. It is okay but I would love to have the stock Rom. I don't like few things on the Gummy.
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so you had MF9 bootloader? (and do you keep that one or switch to the knox one?)
just flashed rom with TRWP? (that'll update radio too?)
and what things dont you like on Gummy?
sandman121383 said:
Im still on mdl lol.....maybe I should atleast update to mf9? Haha
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Lol I've been wondering if anyone else stayed on 4.2.2. Lol Im rooted with custom recovery. I hit the update button the other night and it wouldn't install and that icon went away, so I got that going for me. But I can't wait for kit kat, just waiting on the whole knox deal.
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SayWhat10 said:
so you had MF9 bootloader? (and do you keep that one or switch to the knox one?)
just flashed rom with TRWP? (that'll update radio too?)
and what things dont you like on Gummy?
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Yeah I have MF9 and I could keep the same.
I had issues with BT connection with my BMW but works fine with BT headset.
Home screen kind of wacky and you can't select the one that you like.
I just went back to 4.2.2 again until I find a good one.
Yikes
I'm in the same situation, living on my phone with MF9, have TWRP/Custom Recovery installed, and am interested to upgrade to Kitkat. I'm very interested to know what will be the upgrade method for me to 4.4.2, similar to many others in this thread.
I'm on slimkat now and all is working great. Only drawback is no theme chooser
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I just simply flashed the KitKat rom with twrp
SayWhat10 said:
I'm on slimkat now and all is working great. Only drawback is no theme chooser
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I just simply flashed the KitKat rom with twrp
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Which KitKat rom did you use? Did it just upgrade your OS or did you have to start from a clean install? Any issues with Knox?
asuh said:
Which KitKat rom did you use? Did it just upgrade your OS or did you have to start from a clean install? Any issues with Knox?
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i used Slimkat, but it froze occasionally. now im on CM 11 and its FLAWLESS
did clean install (but had some apps backed up with Titanium)
to my knowledge the whole Knox thing is with Touchwiz based roms
both slimkat and CM 11 are not,so no worries about Knox
I am still on MF9 modem and bootloader
gonna get around to flashing the NAE modem later though
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i used Slimkat, but it froze occasionally. now im on CM 11 and its FLAWLESS
did clean install (but had some apps backed up with Titanium)
to my knowledge the whole Knox thing is with Touchwiz based roms
both slimkat and CM 11 are not,so no worries about Knox
I am still on MF9 modem and bootloader
gonna get around to flashing the NAE modem later though
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Alright. I'm personally looking to update only to official rom and NAE modem, not custom rom. Hoping I can do upgrade instead of clean install but hoping to get root access back or keep it at least.
Ok so i dont think i care about the knox thing anymore.. So with that said i would like to upgrade to 4.4.2 with the stock sprint rom. What is the best way to go about that? Sorry im just confused with the bootloader and modem flashes.. Its been awhile since ive had a samsung phone.. Im assuming i cant do the OTA due to TWRP....
I am running completely stock and rooted with saferoot,
4.2.2
baseband mf9
bootloader mf9
TWRP installed
please help
Can you just unroot and install the NAE ota then reroot with cf auto root? This is coming from stock rooted mk2.

"Upgrade" from MLG to NC2 (leaked KK to OTA KK)

so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
amendolaro1 said:
so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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I want to upgrade from MLG to NC2 too. However, there is no direct way to do it at the moment.
However, if you are still at A2, you can use Safestrap to switch between MJ5 and NC2 (Please don't flash NC2 aboot.mbn!!!!!!)
Yes there is just do the mj5 restore that is in this section then follow one of the guides on how to install the ota
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As Jerrycoffman said. . . .
Restore back to MJ5 using this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Don't root using the last part. It removes knox which will block you from being able to update the phone.
Next there will be a OTA to install its around 60mb. This is NB4
Lastly, just download kitkat OTA that's available. This may take sometime because it is a larger file size.
A lot of people have had issues installing the Kitkat OTA (including me). It fails at a certain percentage.
If you have this problem just follow this guide to fix it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701062
Make sure you back up any apps and files you need before starting this
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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Agree 100%!!!
mutantblack said:
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
jreed3786 said:
There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
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i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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As far as I know, that's a NO.
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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Isis can work on kit kat. I had it working but changed to wallet out of principal
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Best solution:
Go to Best Buy and ask one of the Samsung people to get you to stock, in less than 10 to 15 minutes you'll be in OTA Kit Kat.
No reason to have OTA kitkat when you lose root.
I use ISIS daily with the following mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346

Going back to jellybean

I might not be in right spot , and may not search hard enough please dont fuss to bad if I missed it , but is there an easy way to go back to jellybean ..................kinda crazy i know, but ..can anyone help
What is the kitkat build you are on- go to settings>about phone>build number
If you took the OTA you would be on NC4, in this case there is no way to go back to 4.3, the bootloader is incremented to prevent downgrade.
If you flashed the NC2 leak then you can just odin back to MJE use this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483380
I didn't take the leak I followed beans thread to get the nc2
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As long as its not NC4 taken from OTA you can downgrade with odin
Thanks
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Will I lose root?
ieisha said:
Will I lose root?
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If you didn't take the OTA and you are on NC2 leak, then you can go back. You will lose root, but you can just re-root easily from that point using Kingo or V-Root.

Looking to update rooted S5 - Any method?

As per title, trying to find a way to update without flashing back to stock and losing all my stuff.
Thanks In advance
ChrisDude70 said:
As per title, trying to find a way to update without flashing back to stock and losing all my stuff.
Thanks In advance
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I guess you are rooted and you mean updating a stock rom? By OTA or flashing with Odin?
1. OTA: enable root survival in the superSU Pro app and you should keep root after the update.
2. Odin firmware flash: Flash the updated rom with Mobile Odin Pro, enable everroot and the other 2 options and you also should keep root.
gee2012 said:
I guess you mean updating a stock rom? By OTA or flashing with Odin?
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I'm running rooted, stock. 4.4.2
As I understand it, .3 is the current version.
I'd like to update to .3 without losing all my guff.
Make sense?
ChrisDude70 said:
I'm running rooted, stock. 4.4.2
As I understand it, .3 is the current version.
I'd like to update to .3 without losing all my guff.
Make sense?
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Not realy, do you mean update to 4.4.3? There is no stock 4.4.3 rom atm afaik.
gee2012 said:
Not realy, do you mean update to 4.4.3? There is no stock 4.4.3 rom atm.
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Exactly!
No stock 4.4.3?
No worries then.
Sorry for the confusion!
what i normally do is flash a rom using desktop odin. the flash chainfires root. doesnt delete anything

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