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[Q] 4.3 more troublesome than useful?

My N4 just arrived today.
I have version 4.2.2 installed.
A quick search on gooogle shows a lot of negative feedback from users on the 4.3 update.
I want to root it too but I'm unsure about the update, have you ecountered problems with latest update that couldn't be fixed?
Or better said, what are the most common bugs and can they be fixed?
Also what about roms, which one should i try, PA?

Some people experienced random reboots, I never had them on JWR, I do on JSS.
Also JSS has sometimes dead locks and freezes for about 10 seconds.
But since the update I experience much better battery life! So yeah if you will use the stock ROM I guess you wont have any of these problems, only advantages.

Thanks for the question and the answer, I'm in the same spot and maybe I'll try some custom JWR this weekend, although the plethora of different specific 4.3 bugs going around - besides those already mentioned - remembers a X-File case.
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Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now

Bozdo said:
Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now
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Just update first.
Then install a custom recovery and flash supersu.
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Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?

4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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K0FFP0LICE said:
4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?

OTA 4.3 update with twrp 2.5 no root.
I have no issues.
If you want a reliable jwr custom ROM then cataclysm is awesome and has no problems either for me.
I use stock for unrooted and cataclysm rooted regularly for different reasons but I definitely recommend updating to 4.3 regardless.
NeXuS⁴

Bozdo said:
So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?
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Not sure. That's why I'm on a custom ROM. Devs usually fix things quicker.
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Bozdo said:
Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?
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You can always go back to a previous version. I'm not really sure why you're being so skittish.
FYI, "5.0" will likely be far more riddled with bugs. More changes means more room for error. You have a freaking Nexus. Get with the program.
My advice to you is to not use a toolkit. Setup fastboot and know how to flash the stock images BEFORE attempting anything. That way, if something goes wrong you can fix it without making yet another "HALP! I bricked my phone" thread. We have way too many of those.

Samsung I9505 flashed with google play rom keeps resetting

Hi all,
I recently flashed my samsung s4 i9505 with philz touch 5 recovery and used that to install the 4.4 kitkat google play edition rom.
Almost everything works great, except that periodically my phone reboots. I'd say that it happens about once a day and I really don't know why. So far, google hasn't turned up any useful answers.
It is a shame because the features provided by the rom are amazing.
Has anyone ran into a similar issue before?
My S4 was originally 4.3 android (h3g).
Thanks!

thedemon1366 said:
Hi all,
I recently flashed my samsung s4 i9505 with philz touch 5 recovery and used that to install the 4.4 kitkat google play edition rom.
Almost everything works great, except that periodically my phone reboots. I'd say that it happens about once a day and I really don't know why. So far, google hasn't turned up any useful answers.
It is a shame because the features provided by the rom are amazing.
Has anyone ran into a similar issue before?
My S4 was originally 4.3 android (h3g).
Thanks!
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Try with a different kernel mate.
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Repulsa said:
Try with a different kernel mate.
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Do you have a link to the different kernels? Is there a preference for which one I should use?

Issue flashing 'Google' edition ROMs...

Hi, I'm probably being very idiotic atm but I can't think of any logical issues.
I'm using the Samsung Galaxy S4 i337.. I downgraded from NB1 to MK2, got root, installed safestrap, and attempted to install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544474
It was my understanding this came with Loki-Doki (saw it floating around in a different thread asking if it worked, can find it if nessecary) as a patch. So I downloaded and backed up my stock install, and attempted to install this.
Now the problem is when I boot, it returns me to a bootloop, if you could call that progress.. It vibrates occasionally while bootlooping (samsung - safeboot - blackscreen - vibrate - samsung....). I still have access to safestrap, download mode and so on, if it helps at all. I've also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495 WITH loki-doki (as it is explicitly stated) to no success either..
I'm looking for one of two solutions;
how to get stock firmware back, or how to properly install this? Or any variation thereof. . . I don't know what the problem is ahaha

Bumping to say multiple wipes>reflashes later the blue screen has yet to occur, not sure what that was... Bootlooping is the huge problem now!

You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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jd1639 said:
You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.

Rhymey said:
Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
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It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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jd1639 said:
It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?

Rhymey said:
Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49562527
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So will it ever be possible to flash AOSP ROMs on NB1?

Not until the bootloader is unlocked. There is no telling when that will be.
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Best bet is to find a ROM that you like, then install the Google Experience Launcher apk. It will give your phone the stock google launcher.
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Domination Theme will also extensively theme your touchwiz rom to give it a more complete AOSP look without an AOSP rom.

All right thanks for the help guys.

[SAFETY INFO]Things not to do with your newly unlocked RAZR HD/M/atrix HD on KITKAT

1. DO NOT Flash CM11 or any ROM without the 3.4 kernel, official cm11 is now based on the 3.4 kernel , @epinter 's are not.
2. DO NOT flash an old recovery not for the kit kat boot loader.
3. DON'T NOT make a backup before flashing roms so you can easily go back.
everyone please add your suggestions i will update the op with them.

billycar11 said:
1. Flash CM11 without the 3.4 kernel.
2. flash an old recovery not for the kit kat boot loader.
everyone please add your suggestions
sorry wrong section mods please move to general sorry
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Link or explain why? Cyanogenmod of all roms is not safe yet?

jewbydoo said:
Link or explain why? Cyanogenmod of all roms is not safe yet?
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updated

jewbydoo said:
Link or explain why? Cyanogenmod of all roms is not safe yet?
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dhacker29 has some cm11 builds with a 3.4 as well as a working recovery for our updated phones. I just flashed his latest cm11 build with 3.4 kernel and so far so good. Only been running a couple hours while at work so it hasn't been put through the paces yet either. If you go to the Android Dev section and go to the CM11 Official thread you can a link to the 3.4 builds at the bottom of the 1st post. Good luck

doubljdog said:
dhacker29 has some cm11 builds with a 3.4 as well as a working recovery for our updated phones. I just flashed his latest cm11 build with 3.4 kernel and so far so good. Only been running a couple hours while at work so it hasn't been put through the paces yet either. If you go to the Android Dev section and go to the CM11 Official thread you can a link to the 3.4 builds at the bottom of the 1st post. Good luck
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Thanks, I'm downloading and recovering now.
Link to CM11 test build for the lazy. Praise dhacker29!!

doubljdog said:
dhacker29 has some cm11 builds with a 3.4 as well as a working recovery for our updated phones. I just flashed his latest cm11 build with 3.4 kernel and so far so good. Only been running a couple hours while at work so it hasn't been put through the paces yet either. If you go to the Android Dev section and go to the CM11 Official thread you can a link to the 3.4 builds at the bottom of the 1st post. Good luck
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I'm definately not seeing this link you're talking about, The bottom of the first post?
edit:
Doh I'm an idiot. You linked to it in your post!

jewbydoo said:
Thanks, I'm downloading and recovering now.
Link to CM11 test build for the lazy. Praise dhacker29!!
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did you flash the cm11 i told you not to?

billycar11 said:
did you flash the cm11 i told you not to?
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That link in his post is a direct link to the correct cm11 if you are updated and unlocked on stock 4.4.2. It's dhacker29's test builds with a 3.4 kernel.

doubljdog said:
dhacker29 has some cm11 builds with a 3.4 as well as a working recovery for our updated phones. I just flashed his latest cm11 build with 3.4 kernel and so far so good. Only been running a couple hours while at work so it hasn't been put through the paces yet either. If you go to the Android Dev section and go to the CM11 Official thread you can a link to the 3.4 builds at the bottom of the 1st post. Good luck
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Can you try and play music through apollo or even install Google Play Music. When i try to play music from either app it does not play or it just force closes. I know its not stable but i am on the 0615 build and making sure i installed everything correctly on my end.
Thanks in advance...

divxdvd said:
Can you try and play music through apollo or even install Google Play Music. When i try to play music from either app it does not play or it just force closes. I know its not stable but i am on the 0615 build and making sure i installed everything correctly on my end.
Thanks in advance...
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this is a known bug i have been running the test builds for 3-4 days also video recording at hfr 60 fps causes fc of camera and you need to clear data to reopen

divxdvd said:
Can you try and play music through apollo or even install Google Play Music. When i try to play music from either app it does not play or it just force closes. I know its not stable but i am on the 0615 build and making sure i installed everything correctly on my end.
Thanks in advance...
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I can confirm Apollo doesn't work. Play music works with bugs however. When I choose a song it says can't stream but when I choose the same song again it plays.
So I can play

doubljdog said:
I can confirm Apollo doesn't work. Play music works with bugs however. When I choose a song it says can't stream but when I choose the same song again it plays.
So I can play
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Ok so Im going on a road trip in a few days. Pandora doesnt even work with CM11. I guess my only option is to RSD back to VZW_XT926_4.4.2-KDA20.62-10_1FF.xml. The stock kit kat bootloader ONLY works with these 2 ROMs and only 1 is stable enough to not be near a PC for a week. If I'm missing any other options feel free to chime in...
Thanks!!

divxdvd said:
Ok so Im going on a road trip in a few days. Pandora doesnt even work with CM11. I guess my only option is to RSD back to VZW_XT926_4.4.2-KDA20.62-10_1FF.xml. The stock kit kat bootloader ONLY works with these 2 ROMs and only 1 is stable enough to not be near a PC for a week. If I'm missing any other options feel free to chime in...
Thanks!!
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why did you not backup in twrp/cwm
op updated so people know to back up

divxdvd said:
Ok so Im going on a road trip in a few days. Pandora doesnt even work with CM11. I guess my only option is to RSD back to VZW_XT926_4.4.2-KDA20.62-10_1FF.xml. The stock kit kat bootloader ONLY works with these 2 ROMs and only 1 is stable enough to not be near a PC for a week. If I'm missing any other options feel free to chime in...
Thanks!!
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Try PowerAmp, working for me on a razr m

New to installing mods
I'm pretty new to modding, so I was just wondering how beneficial it is to install for example cyanogen mod vs the latest kit kat on the razr hd. I hear people praising how good mods are, but then I constantly read about the bugs and glitches to the most common things people use such as music or camera. Is there a mod out there that is 100% better than the current kitkat build no matter how you slice it, or are there always going to be trade offs?

bill0405 said:
I'm pretty new to modding, so I was just wondering how beneficial it is to install for example cyanogen mod vs the latest kit kat on the razr hd. I hear people praising how good mods are, but then I constantly read about the bugs and glitches to the most common things people use such as music or camera. Is there a mod out there that is 100% better than the current kitkat build no matter how you slice it, or are there always going to be trade offs?
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If you are on the KK bootloader i would use the stock KK ROM for now just because all the devs are going to have to port there ROMs to work on the new bootloader. The only one you can use right now other then stock is CM11 only by Dhacker29. The Epinter CM11 build is still only for use on JB bootloader. So RIGHT NOW the ONLY stable ROM in STOCK KK. You can not downgrade the KK bootloader to JB no matter if you are unlocked or not.
In a week or 2 i am very sure we will have more options, but remember this phone is almost 2 years old. None of us thought in a million years MOTO would release an update with an open exploit that was closed last year on the 9.16 build.

divxdvd said:
If you are on the KK bootloader i would use the stock KK ROM for now just because all the devs are going to have to port there ROMs to work on the new bootloader. The only one you can use right now other then stock is CM11 only by Dhacker29. The Epinter CM11 build is still only for use on JB bootloader. So RIGHT NOW the ONLY stable ROM in STOCK KK. You can not downgrade the KK bootloader to JB no matter if you are unlocked or not.
In a week or 2 i am very sure we will have more options, but remember this phone is almost 2 years old. None of us thought in a million years MOTO would release an update with an open exploit that was closed last year on the 9.16 build.
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Ok pretty much what I expected. Just testing the waters. I'm updated to kitkat, rooted, bootloader unlocked, and replaced stock BL with CWM 6.0.4.4. Ive already made a backup of my stock rom, so I'm pretty much ready to go. Just need to wait for something that will surely benefit me

bill0405 said:
Ok pretty much what I expected. Just testing the waters. I'm updated to kitkat, rooted, bootloader unlocked, and replaced stock BL with CWM 6.0.4.4. Ive already made a backup of my stock rom, so I'm pretty much ready to go. Just need to wait for something that will surely benefit me
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I would have my phone on CWM 6.0.4.9 recovery. That one is specific for the KK bootloader. The version you have is pretty much useless for flash KK roms.
Get it here:
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/

divxdvd said:
I would have my phone on CWM 6.0.4.9 recovery. That one is specific for the KK bootloader. The version you have is pretty much useless for flash KK roms.
Get it here:
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/
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My mistake. I actually do have 6.0.4.9 installed. Don't know why I had that old file (which i referenced) still lol.

After unlocking I downgraded to jb and am running the 3.0 builds lots of options for unlocked bootloaders ?
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Aio galaxy s4 root and recovery?? I337z

So I have another galaxy s4 in the house and it's code name is jflteaio i337z but the thing is the model number is the same as crickets galaxy s4 so dose that mean I could root it and download twrp recovery for it in the name of the Cricket model?
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Plz I need help
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itzdajosh said:
So I have another galaxy s4 in the house and it's code name is jflteaio i337z but the thing is the model number is the same as crickets galaxy s4 so dose that mean I could root it and download twrp recovery for it in the name of the Cricket model?
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I have an SGH-i337z on Cricket and I was able to root and install TWRP using hroark13's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...cket-aio-sgh-i337z-jflteaio-twrp-2-7-t2858698)
I've been trying various CM builds, the Google Play Edition ROM and PACMAN, but they all seem to have issues (5GHz WiFi, one app or another not working properly, notification glitches). To be fair, they are AT&T ROMs. Also, it takes a bit of work to install as you have to remove the asserts line from each ROM before installing. But if you just want to root and use TWRP to backup it works fine!

timebear said:
I have an SGH-i337z on Cricket and I was able to root and install TWRP using hroark13's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...cket-aio-sgh-i337z-jflteaio-twrp-2-7-t2858698)
I've been trying various CM builds, the Google Play Edition ROM and PACMAN, but they all seem to have issues (5GHz WiFi, one app or another not working properly, notification glitches). To be fair, they are AT&T ROMs. Also, it takes a bit of work to install as you have to remove the asserts line from each ROM before installing. But if you just want to root and use TWRP to backup it works fine!
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Just out of curiosity, was the GPE ROM you tried the Lollipop one? Also, are there any roms for this phone that work well and stable in your experience?

I haven't tried any lollipop roms yet. The 4.4.4 kitkat GPE ROM was stable with the exception of breaking a music streaming app I use (subsonic). It was also the only ROM that identified the carrier as Cricket instead of AT&T.
Pacman I didn't really like so i can't speak much for its stability.
CM11 can be hit or miss. The nightly seem more stable than the stable or milestone versions usually, but one gave me 5GHz wifi problems. I was never able to use 5GHz with the milestone I tried.
Right now i am using 12/13 nightly CM11 and it has been running very well. I really like the slider shortcuts on the CM lock screen, so I'll probably just stick with CM.

timebear said:
I haven't tried any lollipop roms yet. The 4.4.4 kitkat GPE ROM was stable with the exception of breaking a music streaming app I use (subsonic). It was also the only ROM that identified the carrier as Cricket instead of AT&T.
Pacman I didn't really like so i can't speak much for its stability.
CM11 can be hit or miss. The nightly seem more stable than the stable or milestone versions usually, but one gave me 5GHz wifi problems. I was never able to use 5GHz with the milestone I tried.
Right now i am using 12/13 nightly CM11 and it has been running very well. I really like the slider shortcuts on the CM lock screen, so I'll probably just stick with CM.
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So cm is working good for you, and if not is there any good Roms available?

itzdajosh said:
So cm is working good for you, and if not is there any good Roms available?
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Yes, CM11 is working great! If anything is broken I haven't come across it yet. There are certainly a lot available and any unified or AT&T ROM should work (no need for safestrap), so feel free to try out anything that looks good! I liked GPE and it seemed to work really well until I found it didn't work with one app I use occasionally (subsonic). You might not have any issues with apps you use. I also seemed to get better battery life with GPE. The wifi issue I had with an older CM11 build seems to have been fixed, so that's working well now. The author of the root I used seems to like Skyfall, so you could go that way if you like touchwiz.
Have some fun trying out a couple, and make a backup before installing something different so you can easily go back if you decide you liked one better.

timebear said:
Yes, CM11 is working great! If anything is broken I haven't come across it yet. There are certainly a lot available and any unified or AT&T ROM should work (no need for safestrap), so feel free to try out anything that looks good! I liked GPE and it seemed to work really well until I found it didn't work with one app I use occasionally (subsonic). You might not have any issues with apps you use. I also seemed to get better battery life with GPE. The wifi issue I had with an older CM11 build seems to have been fixed, so that's working well now. The author of the root I used seems to like Skyfall, so you could go that way if you like touchwiz.
Have some fun trying out a couple, and make a backup before installing something different so you can easily go back if you decide you liked one better.
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Thanks for the help! And one other thing, can you try out cm12 so I can get that.. And then tell me if it's behaving good with the phone.
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FWIW, I've gotten Goldeneye, Skyfall and stock T-mobile running on my i337z with TWRP. I figured out that I needed to flash my phone's modules after flashing a touchwiz ROM for it to boot and run correctly. My i337z is on ND3. I uploaded the ND3 and NE2 modules in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57407130&postcount=75.

bonchien said:
FWIW, I've gotten Goldeneye, Skyfall and stock T-mobile running on my i337z with TWRP. I figured out that I needed to flash my phone's modules after flashing a touchwiz ROM for it to boot and run correctly. My i337z is on ND3. I uploaded the ND3 and NE2 modules in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57407130&postcount=75.
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Yeah I'm on 4.2.2
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