[Q] Questions about rooting, region locks, efuse - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a few general questions I hope some people can answer to help me understand these topics better, numbered it for ease of replying.
1) For unlocked stock firmwares, what is the point of Samsung having multiple firmware files for different countries/regions? If you go to sammobile's website, you can see what I mean. I understand having different firmwares for different providers as they have their own bloatware/branding. But unless the unlocked firmware files contain different languages for different countries/regions, what is the reason for multiple unlocked firmwares? Gets confusing when choosing a firmware to flash your unlocked device (if I should choose UK or Germany, for example - and I'm sure both would contain the English and German languages anyway).
2) Is region locking now a non-issue ever since CF's region lock away solution? I'm assuming if I had an unlocked phone with original firmware that was not region-locked, that I shouldn't have to worry about upgrading to another unlocked firmware (that does contain region-locking) since CF's solution works? Or should I be worried about upgrading into a firmware that does have region locking?
3) Do all firmwares that contain Knox have the potential efuse trigger? And if so, what actions trigger that efuse? I gather from reading the forums that normal rooting triggers it (the DLV method excepted). But what if I wanted to flash my unlocked device with another stock firmware from another region (because I liked that firmware better) - would that trigger the efuse as well? Any other conditions/activities that would trigger the efuse?
Thanks in advance for helping me out with these n00bish questions.:good:

Anyone want to take a crack at these questions? Thanks!

s2kdriver80 said:
I have a few general questions I hope some people can answer to help me understand these topics better, numbered it for ease of replying.
1) For unlocked stock firmwares, what is the point of Samsung having multiple firmware files for different countries/regions? If you go to sammobile's website, you can see what I mean. I understand having different firmwares for different providers as they have their own bloatware/branding. But unless the unlocked firmware files contain different languages for different countries/regions, what is the reason for multiple unlocked firmwares? Gets confusing when choosing a firmware to flash your unlocked device (if I should choose UK or Germany, for example - and I'm sure both would contain the English and German languages anyway).
2) Is region locking now a non-issue ever since CF's region lock away solution? I'm assuming if I had an unlocked phone with original firmware that was not region-locked, that I shouldn't have to worry about upgrading to another unlocked firmware (that does contain region-locking) since CF's solution works? Or should I be worried about upgrading into a firmware that does have region locking?
3) Do all firmwares that contain Knox have the potential efuse trigger? And if so, what actions trigger that efuse? I gather from reading the forums that normal rooting triggers it (the DLV method excepted). But what if I wanted to flash my unlocked device with another stock firmware from another region (because I liked that firmware better) - would that trigger the efuse as well? Any other conditions/activities that would trigger the efuse?
Thanks in advance for helping me out with these n00bish questions.:good:
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1. The different firmwares have variations on carrier specific bloatware and/or regional basebands that could impact your connection, although in reality, I've never had any problem using other modems on various Samsung devices in my region. This tends to vary quite a bit by region, so sometimes it matters, othertimes, it does not.
The general rule is to stick with your region if possible, but otherwise, if you want to avoid bloat, any firmware is possible as long as you make sure it's for your specific variant. That's the biggest caveat.
2. CF Region unlocking only works for the 9005, so Exynos based International models are not supported. Ony time will tell how long the exploit CF has found will actually be viable in future firmware updates. Things could change overnight.
3. Firmware versions beginning with J3 and above have the Knox bootloader, as far as anyone can tell at this point. I used to care about the Knox trigger, and it really pissed me off with the S4, but I've come to accept it as a price one must pay. In reality, all major players are working toward this "safety" goal. LG has their own version of a locked bootloader, etc. What triggers the Knox eFuse is custom ROM/Kernel/Recovery. Rooting alone isn't really enough to do it.

donalgodon said:
1. The different firmwares have variations on carrier specific bloatware and/or regional basebands that could impact your connection, although in reality, I've never had any problem using other modems on various Samsung devices in my region. This tends to vary quite a bit by region, so sometimes it matters, othertimes, it does not.
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Not bloatware no, more carrier information, APN - http homepage/email set up etc. Unless it is a carrier's firmware rather than an unbranded firmware (unlocked)
donalgodon said:
The general rule is to stick with your region if possible, but otherwise, if you want to avoid bloat, any firmware is possible as long as you make sure it's for your specific variant. That's the biggest caveat.
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Agreed. But you can install another region firmware if you wanted faster updates, or an update which is region specific

radicalisto said:
Not bloatware no, more carrier information, APN - http homepage/email set up etc. Unless it is a carrier's firmware rather than an unbranded firmware (unlocked)
Agreed. But you can install another region firmware if you wanted faster updates, or an update which is region specific
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Right. I just meant to say that some firmwares are carrier firmware and others are open and tend to have less carrier branding and bloat in them.

Wow thanks guys for your detailed replies, much appreciated.
1) Yea, regarding the multiple firmware choices, I understand the need for separate firmware files depending on carrier-specific requirements. However, for a specific model of an unlocked/unbranded phone (say, the GT-I9505), the hardware should be identical regardless of where it's originally sold in the world. So it looks like the only reason for having multiple firmware files for say an unlocked GT-I9505 would be to include different languages. Why not just have one firmware file for a given unlocked phone and just include all languages? Unless I'm missing something here. A little confusing when I go to download a firmware file for my unlocked phone and have to wonder which choice contains the "best" upgrades.
2) So from what you say, as of right now, the N9005 version of the Note 3 is susceptible to CF's region lock away solution, which is great. Is this also true for all other Snapdragon-equipped models like the Galaxy S4?
3) So the Knox efuse becomes an issue only if you seek warranty work, correct? It doesn't actually hinder or restrict your ability to mod the phone even after the efuse is triggered?

s2kdriver80 said:
Wow thanks guys for your detailed replies, much appreciated.
1) Yea, regarding the multiple firmware choices, I understand the need for separate firmware files depending on carrier-specific requirements. However, for a specific model of an unlocked/unbranded phone (say, the GT-I9505), the hardware should be identical regardless of where it's originally sold in the world. So it looks like the only reason for having multiple firmware files for say an unlocked GT-I9505 would be to include different languages. Why not just have one firmware file for a given unlocked phone and just include all languages? Unless I'm missing something here. A little confusing when I go to download a firmware file for my unlocked phone and have to wonder which choice contains the "best" upgrades.
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Yup different languages and region specific updates (Poland tend to update before UK for example)
2) So from what you say, as of right now, the N9005 version of the Note 3 is susceptible to CF's region lock away solution, which is great. Is this also true for all other Snapdragon-equipped models like the Galaxy S4?
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It seems it works yes, a few conflicting reports, but 9 out of 10 seem to be ok, as for other models I'm not sure
3) So the Knox efuse becomes an issue only if you seek warranty work, correct? It doesn't actually hinder or restrict your ability to mod the phone even after the efuse is triggered?
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Well yes and No.
Samsung are honouring some warranty work with 0x1 and sometimes they are not.
As for things working correctly, once tripped to 0x1 you cannot use KNOX functions, encrypt your containers etc. - Possibly be one or two other things you can't use that may not have been found yet(?)
But no it doesn't restrict anything once triggered bar what I posted about.

Will ChainFire's Region Lock Away TRIP Knox...if rooted with Knox not tripped?.

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[Q] flashing stock firmware over old/ region

hello i require your assistance
i bought a samsung galaxy note 3 SM-n9009 in china. Upon bringing it back to singapore, i realised that i may not be able to use it with local telcos. I have limited knowledge of phone firmware, but if im not wrong, each telco has their own firmware. Hence, my question is, am i able to flash my local telco's firmware over the current one, and use my simcard on it without any drawbacks? and if so, how?
i have did a limited search and found that only european note 3 are region locked. im not sure if the current one is.
thank you for your help
for info: singapore local models are n9005.
Nuker22110 said:
hello i require your assistance
i bought a samsung galaxy note 3 SM-n9009 in china. Upon bringing it back to singapore, i realised that i may not be able to use it with local telcos. I have limited knowledge of phone firmware, but if im not wrong, each telco has their own firmware. Hence, my question is, am i able to flash my local telco's firmware over the current one, and use my simcard on it without any drawbacks? and if so, how?
i have did a limited search and found that only european note 3 are region locked. im not sure if the current one is.
thank you for your help
for info: singapore local models are n9005.
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There isn't much info around about the N9009 model, Is it like the N9005? snapdragon? -- From what I can see it isn't possible, however it may be possible flashing N9005 firmware but I wouldn't hold your hopes too high.
radicalisto said:
There isn't much info around about the N9009 model, Is it like the N9005? snapdragon? -- From what I can see it isn't possible, however it may be possible flashing N9005 firmware but I wouldn't hold your hopes too high.
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thank you for the fast reply. its a china dual sim model. how do i tell if its snapdragon? and if its possible how should i go about doing it?
Yup it's Snapdragon - Only N900 has Exynos (my bad should have realised straight away) ---
In regards to flashing, you need to read A LOT on here about the different flash routes you can take, compatability and methods. And be ready to be able to flash back to the software that it is on currently or you could end up with a bricked device. Once you have read up on everything, you can then decide if you feel you can flash your device or not, or if the device can handle it without messing it up.
Although saying that *eureka!*. Have a look if you can change your CSC/Modem radio -- that may work rather than trying to flash a new firmware.
radicalisto said:
Yup it's Snapdragon - Only N900 has Exynos (my bad should have realised straight away) ---
In regards to flashing, you need to read A LOT on here about the different flash routes you can take, compatability and methods. And be ready to be able to flash back to the software that it is on currently or you could end up with a bricked device. Once you have read up on everything, you can then decide if you feel you can flash your device or not, or if the device can handle it without messing it up.
Although saying that *eureka!*. Have a look if you can change your CSC/Modem radio -- that may work rather than trying to flash a new firmware.
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how could i go about checking to change the csc/ modem radio?
Have a look around the development section and you should find Modem radios/CSC files etc -- have a read and see what is there and if others have had similar issues, you may also find someone in that sub-forum with a wealth of knowledge regarding changing stuff (far more than me at least)
hopefully anyone else who has any experience would be able to shed some light on this matter
Theres not much research in n9009 cuz nobody has them
If i were you id try to flash a signapore csc and modem but no whole FW
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Region Firmware Question

I'm trying to update my SM-P605 Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 LTE to P605XXUBMJ9 and I am so confused by the manual process. I can't do OTA because I rooted and when I go to a ROM download site there are all these regions and carriers mentioned. I'm worried about bricking my device or carrier locking it to a company thousands of miles away. Can you help? Sorry for being so dumb but I've never bought a device outside of a store where they set everything up for you.
Current specs:
Android 4.3
P605XXUBMJ4 Baseband
3.4.0-1927787 [email protected] #1 Kernel
JSS15J.P605ZSUBMJ6 Build number
Enforcing SEPF_SM-P605_4.3_0002 SELinux status
I'm currently in the USA, using T-Mobile, and I was told by Amazon that the device is unlocked.
thatblokematti said:
I'm trying to update my SM-P605 Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 LTE to P605XXUBMJ9 and I am so confused by the manual process. I can't do OTA because I rooted and when I go to a ROM download site there are all these regions and carriers mentioned. I'm worried about bricking my device or carrier locking it to a company thousands of miles away. Can you help? Sorry for being so dumb but I've never bought a device outside of a store where they set everything up for you.
Current specs:
Android 4.3
P605XXUBMJ4 Baseband
3.4.0-1927787 [email protected] #1 Kernel
JSS15J.P605ZSUBMJ6 Build number
Enforcing SEPF_SM-P605_4.3_0002 SELinux status
I'm currently in the USA, using T-Mobile, and I was told by Amazon that the device is unlocked.
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Being that its a ZS build it looks like its from China.
I would only flash P605ZS***** Builds if you are worried about locking it by mistake.
FYI: The first two digits after the model number are the region
http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Samsung_firmware_naming_conventions#2._Region_code
scrosler said:
Being that its a ZS build it looks like its from China.
I would only flash P605ZS***** Builds if you are worried about locking it by mistake.
FYI: The first two digits after the model number are the region
http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Samsung_firmware_naming_conventions#2._Region_code
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Thank you a million times. I feel like such an idiot :S Do you know if there's an upgrade to MJ9 yet in the China region? Do I need to take any extra precautions to ensure it stays carrier unlocked and usable in the United States.
thatblokematti said:
Thank you a million times. I feel like such an idiot :S Do you know if there's an upgrade to MJ9 yet in the China region? Do I need to take any extra precautions to ensure it stays carrier unlocked and usable in the United States.
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My understanding is the partition that holds the carrier info / locking info is not touched during a flash with Odin. HOWEVER, I never got into that unlocked device thing because I never had a need to.
Someone else may be better suited to the question than I but as long as you flash ZS based firmwares you should be fine as I did not see a carrier listed for that tablet in China so they may all be unlocked.
Actually, I only think the Verizon one is going to be the locked one but I dont know.
scrosler said:
My understanding is the partition that holds the carrier info / locking info is not touched during a flash with Odin. HOWEVER, I never got into that unlocked device thing because I never had a need to.
Someone else may be better suited to the question than I but as long as you flash ZS based firmwares you should be fine as I did not see a carrier listed for that tablet in China so they may all be unlocked.
Actually, I only think the Verizon one is going to be the locked one but I dont know.
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You are very helpful in my quest to not ruin an expensive tablet. Do you know if there's an upgrade compatible with ZS for the MJ9 update? I honestly don't mind waiting if there's a chance I'll turn it into a paper weight. Not even a Kit Kat build just some bug fixes from what I understand.
Again, thanks for your help.
I just don't understand all the carrier builds of MJ9. Bloody heck some of em even have custom names which would be a good sign it's specific to region/carrier. So confused by this all
So maybe unroot your device and then you will have an Ota Update... Because if you'll use Odin for flash other firmware you won't be rooted yet, i think.
chabasse said:
So maybe unroot your device and then you will have an Ota Update... Because if you'll use Odin for flash other firmware you won't be rooted yet, i think.
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Aren't OTA updates issued by providers? T-Mobile doesn't support this device so there's not going to be an MJ9 update. Ever. It's using an LTE frequency not even found in the States. I just bought it online because I didn't want to wait for somebody here to give me support. I'm simply trying to do a manual update without my device being a paperweight or waking up to expect a connection from cellular towers in Asia.

Can I flash SM-G900F firmware on an SM-G900I?

Hi,
I have an SM-G900I and was wondering if anyone knows if I can flash SM-G900F firmware on it? Will it change the model number as well?
Also, does anyone know the difference between the 2 models apart from one being an Asian model and one being European?
Nope. You can't flash different models firmware, because it'll brick your device...
Isn't it effectively the same phone though?
gyrex said:
I have an SM-G900I and was wondering if anyone knows if I can flash SM-G900F firmware on it? Will it change the model number as well?
Also, does anyone know the difference between the 2 models apart from one being an Asian model and one being European?
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Sure you can flash the 900F firmware. It isn't recommended and may "brick" (damage) your phone, making it as useful as a brick. You'd already know this if you had read any of the existing threads on the subject. But you can try anyway if you really want to. If you do, at least make the effort to locate the proper 900F PIT file and flash it concurrently. Your phone still won't work properly afterwards, but using the PIT file will make it less likely that you brick it due to partition corruption.
If you just want to change the displayed model number, you can do that by editing the build.prop file. The main difference between the two models is that they are intended for use in different regions and with different carriers and have different firmware. Therefore each will support different frequency bands.
Unfortunately you didn't tell us why you want to do this. If you are trying to use your phone on a different carrier that uses different frequencies, then trying to flash a 900F firmware won't do that. If you are looking for some 900F specific apps or features, you can probably do that by installing a 900F based custom ROM instead.
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gyrex said:
Hi,
I have an SM-G900I and was wondering if anyone knows if I can flash SM-G900F firmware on it? Will it change the model number as well?
Also, does anyone know the difference between the 2 models apart from one being an Asian model and one being European?
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Yes flash another firmware will change the model number accordingly
fffft said:
Sure you can flash the 900F firmware. It isn't recommended and may "brick" (damage) your phone, making it as useful as a brick. You'd already know this if you had read any of the existing threads on the subject. But you can try anyway if you really want to. If you do, at least make the effort to locate the proper 900F PIT file and flash it concurrently. Your phone still won't work properly afterwards, but using the PIT file will make it less likely that you brick it due to partition corruption.
If you just want to change the displayed model number, you can do that by editing the build.prop file. The main difference between the two models is that they are intended for use in different regions and with different carriers and have different firmware. Therefore each will support different frequency bands.
Unfortunately you didn't tell us why you want to do this. If you are trying to use your phone on a different carrier that uses different frequencies, then trying to flash a 900F firmware won't do that. If you are looking for some 900F specific apps or features, you can probably do that by installing a 900F based custom ROM instead.
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Thanks for your comprehensive response!
The main reason for wanting to flash the SM-G900F firmware is because it seems like a more mainline branch and DBT/BTU will probably get more OTA frequent updates than XSA and i think issues would get resolved quicker in that branch...
vndnguyen said:
Yes flash another firmware will change the model number accordingly
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Are you absolutely sure of this? Do you know anyone who has done this successfully?
gyrex said:
The main reason for wanting to flash the SM-G900F firmware is because it seems like a more mainline branch and DBT/BTU will probably get more OTA frequent updates than XSA and i think issues would get resolved quicker in that branch...
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You could do that.. but NFC and sundry other features will fail on you. And any update involving the bootloader won't work for you. And probably ditto for any radio (modem) updates.
Your best bet to do what you want in my opinion is to install a 900F based custom ROM e.g. the Alliance ROM. The active custom ROM developers are proactive in updates and supporting their ROMs and would see the best result by you.
This approach would leave you with your stock 900l bootloader and radio. And 900F ROM, with updates for the ROM maintained by the ROM developer.
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gyrex said:
Are you absolutely sure of this? Do you know anyone who has done this successfully?
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When you flash the new firmware, the build.prop is replaced by a new one and the model number will be changed accordingly.
You can also manually change the model number by editing the build.prop file (ro.product.model), as fffft already pointed out.

[Q] Carrier Specific ROMs

Hey Guys!
I have a question regarding stock roms. I've been looking at SamMobile for an official release of Lollipop here in Philippines, the only download I can see is for a local carrier Globe. Will it cause problems if I flash this on my international N9005?
I also want to ask the same question for an S4 I9505, but it's the other way around; the phone is from Globe, network locked, and I am thinking of flashing an international version ROM. Will this cause problems? I know this isn't the right forum but just in case someone would like to answer.
Thank you!
hehsusss said:
Hey Guys!
I have a question regarding stock roms. I've been looking at SamMobile for an official release of Lollipop here in Philippines, the only download I can see is for a local carrier Globe. Will it cause problems if I flash this on my international N9005?
I also want to ask the same question for an S4 I9505, but it's the other way around; the phone is from Globe, network locked, and I am thinking of flashing an international version ROM. Will this cause problems? I know this isn't the right forum but just in case someone would like to answer.
Thank you!
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1. Yes, you will have problems with the radios. It's not importat where you live that what CSC have your device. Install this APP and look for your CSC. Go to Sammobile.com, look for your csc, download and flash the latest stock rom for your device via ODIN. (Pic attached)
2. Regarding GT-i9505: Yes, it will cause lose of signal. The best you can do is unlock it by IMEI.
Joku1981 said:
1. Yes, you will have problems with the radios. It's not importat where you live that what CSC have your device. Install this APP and look for your CSC. Go to Sammobile.com, look for your csc, download and flash the latest stock rom for your device via ODIN. (Pic attached)
2. Regarding GT-i9505: Yes, it will cause lose of signal. The best you can do is unlock it by IMEI.
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I flashed a rom from Brazil. Everything works great it's just that the bloatware included is annoying. I figured the best option to flasha ROM from my country but the only one with a Lollipop ROM is carrier specific.
Samsung allows users to use roms from their own region interchangeably. In most cases, even globally.
I've never encountered issues with radio or signal loss when flashing different providers and countries in my own region, and I've had thousands of people flash and use all sort of different EU firmwares. (you can find the region on the sticker on the box.)
(US users have different devices with real carrier locks, so those are excluded.)
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[UK] Unlocked S7 Edge - Enable EE features?

Hi folks,
So as in iPhone user, i've been following the latest Galaxy very closely and decided to take the plunge on Sunday!
Suffice to say, sat in front of me at the moment is my first Samsung (I went for the Edge).
I'm on EE, so i'd like to know how I go about enabling Wi-Fi calling (and VoLTE when it launches - although i'm aware it's testing in several areas at the moment) on my device. I bought it unlocked, direct from Samsung - which probably explains why I can't see the settings for it?
I've ready that I may have to flash the firmware with the EE version to get the features - my concern with that though is tripping Knox, as i'd like to use Samsung Pay when it launches.
Is there a method of enabling the features without flashing the firmware?
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!
I've ready that I may have to flash the firmware with the EE version to get the features - my concern with that though is tripping Knox, as i'd like to use Samsung Pay when it launches.
Is there a method of enabling the features without flashing the firmware
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i wouldnt if i were you. i tried that with apple pay in australia and it didnt work. its region locked. wait for the official launch.
for me, my ban offers nfc payments through the phone so i can wait abit for samsung pay to arrive in australia and if im lucky, they will give out free stuff like in america.
i never tried volte calling. but you can always use whats app and stuff.
Its safe to do so,
I bought my S7 Edge from the Samsung store, and flashed the EE firmware, it doesn't trip knox, only custom changes will trip knox, So rooting/custom recoveries and such. its safe to flash the EE firmware. and WI-FI calling working for me, (How to enable WiFI calling). as we speak. But I did do a factory reset(delete everything) after flashing to make sure the CSC for EE was installing correctly.
kossiewossie said:
Its safe to do so,
I bought my S7 Edge from the Samsung store, and flashed the EE firmware, it doesn't trip knox, only custom changes will trip knox, So rooting/custom recoveries and such. its safe to flash the EE firmware. and WI-FI calling working for me as we speak. But I did do a factory reset after flashing to make sure the CSC for EE was installing correctly.
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Ah - just what I wanted to hear
Can you tell me if the EE firmware comes with loads of bloat? Also, will OTA updates work, or will I have to manually flash them when released (I'm sure I read that auto-updates don't work if flashing a different firmware - although I could have misconstrued that).
Thanks
Captain.Slow said:
Ah - just what I wanted to hear
Can you tell me if the EE firmware comes with loads of bloat? Also, will OTA updates work, or will I have to manually flash them when released (I'm sure I read that auto-updates don't work if flashing a different firmware - although I could have misconstrued that).
Thanks
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Auto-update will work, but you will have to wait for EE to push the updates out. so might be a delay until they release them, Only difference from buying the phone from EE or Samsung is the firmware, So if you flash the whole phone and factory reset in recovery, its pretty much a EE phone. be warned sometimes WiFi calling will not work until you call up EE and ask them to activate it on your handset, (and that can be a funny conversation, since you didn't buy the phone from them but I managed to talk my way around it on my S6 edge+), And on my S7 Edge it seems to already be enabled after I flashed the EE firmware and enabled in the phone settings.
It's a shame that we still have to install carrier specific firmware to access these things. I thought I heard samsung had overcome this?
Some articles suggested that the S7 could install carrier specific software upon detection of SIM accordingly. This doesn't appear to be the case. I have just had to flash H3G firmware. BTW op it didn't trip KNOX
sammyelrefee said:
It's a shame that we still have to install carrier specific firmware to access these things. I thought I heard samsung had overcome this?
Some articles suggested that the S7 could install carrier specific software upon detection of SIM accordingly. This doesn't appear to be the case. I have just had to flash H3G firmware. BTW op it didn't trip KNOX
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It is a bit rubbish really - it's one good thing Apple has over android imho. I know Google are trying to go down the same route with Carrier Updates - but they're gonna have to grow a pair if they're going to get anywhere with it.
Anyway, thanks kossiewossie - just finished flashing mine. Hoping I haven't tripped Knox (not checked yet, it's restoring my Google Account backup).
To flash the firmware is it just a case of downloading the EE firmware from sammobile and using Odin to flash it? Because I know for the S6 there was an issue where the partitions were different between the EE version and the unlocked version meaning you had to get hold of a PIT file to flash the EE firmware. Is that still the case?
I'm also considering doing the same. I'm on EE but it came through a re-seller so I've got stock Samsung firmware.
Other than the delay in updates being released, is there any other reason why not to do this? Are you able to flash back the BTU version if you grow tired of waiting for carrier updates and don't end up making the use of wifi calling?
mmotti said:
I'm also considering doing the same. I'm on EE but it came through a re-seller so I've got stock Samsung firmware.
Other than the delay in updates being released, is there any other reason why not to do this? Are you able to flash back the BTU version if you grow tired of waiting for carrier updates and don't end up making the use of wifi calling?
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The only benefit I see with the EE firmware is Wifi calling, but as I am in a fantastic reception area, I do not need it. Therefore I see no other reason to use the EE firmware and prefer updates as soon as they are released.
Yes, if you grow tired of waiting for carrier updates, you can flash back to BTE/XEU firmware.
I can't speak for EVR firmware. I used Samfirm to download 4 file H3G firmware and I was not asked for a PIT file.
Interesting there are PIT files included in the files if you unpack them so maybe this was used?
Having downloaded the EE firmware I'm a little confused with Odin.
I have:
AP...
BL...
CP...
CSC_EVR...
Home_CSC_EVR...
Do I need to select all of these within Odin? If so, which CSC as there seems to be two? Sorry if this is a stupid question....
mmotti said:
Having downloaded the EE firmware I'm a little confused with Odin.
I have:
AP...
BL...
CP...
CSC_EVR...
Home_CSC_EVR...
Do I need to select all of these within Odin? If so, which CSC as there seems to be two? Sorry if this is a stupid question....
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When I did it last night, within Odin I selected files for AP, BL, CP and for CSC - CSC_EVR. I didn't use the Home_CSC_EVR file.
Knowing my luck, i've probably done it wrong - although my phone does seem to be running fine!!
I'm too cautious about flashing the wrong one lol. I'll wait until we know the difference I think!
Edit: Flashed it with the standard CSC. All seems well.
I flashed the standard csc myself and all seems well for over a day now. Would still like to know what the home csc file is for.
Edit. Just found out that home_csc doesn't contain the pit file so it doesn't wipe the phone. So would have to use the standard CSC when changing firmware.

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