4.3 vs 4.4 - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi guys,
i've had my N10 for less than 1 week and need some advise
in terms of fluidity and smothness you people think that 4.3 is better or worst than 4.4 at this date of course ?? let me known
i'm running custom 4.4 at the moment but i think it could be smoother, never had a chance to try 4.3 so far
thanks

wwwpuntoit said:
hi guys,
i've had my N10 for less than 1 week and need some advise
in terms of fluidity and smothness you people think that 4.3 is better or worst than 4.4 at this date of course ?? let me known
i'm running custom 4.4 at the moment but i think it could be smoother, never had a chance to try 4.3 so far
thanks
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For me 4.4 is smoother. Today I switched to purity to try art.. And man this thing flies ^^
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mrgnex said:
For me 4.4 is smoother. Today I switched to purity to try art.. And man this thing flies ^^
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OK thanks for sharing
I'm going to try purity to see how it compares to other Roms i've tried

For me 4.4 is definitely smoother
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gc84245 said:
For me 4.4 is definitely smoother
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You guys see drop frames here and there or is this just me?

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Nexus 4 possible to run 4.1.2?

Is this possible somehow?
You need flash the ROM check the stickies how to do.
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Kick-Ass Joe said:
You need flash the ROM check the stickies how to do.
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He means 4.1.2 not 4.2.1
@OP Possible sure, but it is alot of work to make it work on the N4.
Why do you want to downgrade?
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You need flash the ROM check the stickies how to do.
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There are no 4.1.2 ROMs for N4.
Testraindrop said:
He means 4.1.2 not 4.2.1
@OP Possible sure, but it is alot of work to make it work on the N4.
Why do you want to downgrade?
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I knew I'd get a sensible answer eventually lol. Was just curious to see if some of the bugs we are facing on 4.2.1 were to dissapear with 4.1.2
I had a funny feeling it would be a lot of work involved. Oh well. Cheers
I've wondered this myself. I know xda is all about having the latest and greatest, but on my gnex 4.1.1/4.1.2 were absolutely perfect. it was super smooth, everything worked and there was no crazy battery drain issues. 4.2 seems rushed, hopefully they'll sort it out in the next update
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chrisgtl said:
I knew I'd get a sensible answer eventually lol. Was just curious to see if some of the bugs we are facing on 4.2.1 were to dissapear with 4.1.2
I had a funny feeling it would be a lot of work involved. Oh well. Cheers
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The most pressing bugs are in the kernel so even if the ROM gets ported they will persist.
You can try flashing an old rom on the new kernel and see what happens.
Someone got Gingerbread with a Jelly Bean kernel running on his Nexus 7.
It's definitely possible, but will probably include some work.

Nice ROM for everyday use on Tab 2 7.0

Does any one know a good ROM for everyday use?
Thanks for looking
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Lookin4Twinkies said:
Does any one know a good ROM for everyday use?
Thanks for looking
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YES, of course
Stock Samsung 4.1.1. It fast, smooth and all the hardware works unlike any of the third party ROMS
Can't beat it for stability or speed.
Or if you are really daring, get the Samsung 4.1.2 from KIES
DigitalMD said:
YES, of course
Stock Samsung 4.1.1. It fast, smooth and all the hardware works unlike any of the third party ROMS
Can't beat it for stability or speed.
Or if you are really daring, get the Samsung 4.1.2 from KIES
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agreed!stock always the best.
Lookin4Twinkies said:
Does any one know a good ROM for everyday use?
Thanks for looking
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Yes stock, now that JB 4.1.1 update has arrived. I actually tried them all (Roms) here and all are very good. For now, I am running stock JB with KK-Boot kernel and SD swap script. All is smooth and working well!
Sargeue said:
Yes stock, now that JB 4.1.1 update has arrived. I actually tried them all (Roms) here and all are very good. For now, I am running stock JB with KK-Boot kernel and SD swap script. All is smooth and working well!
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I know my way around Android but I'm not able to get the swap SD to work. Any tips?
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DigitalMD said:
YES, of course
Stock Samsung 4.1.1. It fast, smooth and all the hardware works unlike any of the third party ROMS
Can't beat it for stability or speed.
Or if you are really daring, get the Samsung 4.1.2 from KIES
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+1.
Use this resource, worked perfectly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097
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Forget stock. Its slow and bloated.
Run CyanogenMod 10.1.
I prefer blackbean ROM for my dd.
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scottx . said:
Forget stock. Its slow and bloated.
Run CyanogenMod 10.1.
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+1 for the cyanogenMod 10.1
I don't understand all the comment saying "the stock rom is very good and smooth" cyano is more smooth and don't contain all the soft from samsung that are horrible.
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Does any one know a good ROM for everyday use?
Thanks for looking
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CM 10.1 ofc ... :good:
It's good ... though it's a NIGHTLY ...
Yeah, +1 for CM 10.1,
It´s 4.2.1 and smooth.
Looks like a best rom thread to me.
Try for your self and decide what's better for you.
Thread closed.
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Jellybean vs Gingerbread

What are you thoughts on this?
Of course 4.2 is newer and better, but is it actually better on our phone in the real world. I feel that gingerbread on this phone was the best an there really wasn't anything smoother or faster FOR THIS DEVICE.
Is there anyone still out there that stopped at the last 2.3 build of Oxygen or Peter Alfonso?
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Downloading Oxygen as I type this
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Could you link oxygen because the website is down now.
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pandaman21 said:
Could you link oxygen because the website is down now.
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http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/NexusS/roms/oxygen
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Running oxygen. No lag. I'm happy and staying on this until I upgrade.
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Odp: Jellybean vs Gingerbread
What about web browsing, still no lag there?
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I would say BB6
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nexususer1 said:
What about web browsing, still no lag there?
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Good anti-troll, lol. Web browsing in GB was attrocious.
His signature has changed from iPhone to Nexus s 4g. Lol..
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According To Me JB Is Also Smooth. I Am Running JB It Works Great. No Lags Nothing. Big Games Like Modern Combat 4 & Dark Knight Rises Run Smoothly.
JB is not nearly laggy/buggy enough for me to go back to GB, the visual appeal is more than enough reason for me. Not to mention the features.
Gingerbread Rocks For Nexus S
Well i will go for the gingerbread because in GB i get better benchmark than JB!
me currently Using MIUI GB 2.3.7 by brainmaster! with cm7 kernel! :fingers-crossed:
Shark_On_Land said:
What are you thoughts on this?
Of course 4.2 is newer and better, but is it actually better on our phone in the real world. I feel that gingerbread on this phone was the best an there really wasn't anything smoother or faster FOR THIS DEVICE.
Is there anyone still out there that stopped at the last 2.3 build of Oxygen or Peter Alfonso?
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i don't agree with your statement that '4.2 is better' and that gb runs smoother or faster on this device only, i actually think that 2.3.x was the best android ever made and it all went downhill from there
show me one device where jb / ics works better than gb and i'll buy you a new car
Let the troll rest
¿dpeeps74?
U need to distinguish between speed and fluidity. GB browser is really, really bad, menus are complicated and UI is unpolished on *every* device. JB is maybe tad slower, but it is better in every aspect except battery consumption wise...
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I tried that oxygen rom, and that even without gapps. I got to say, after jelly bean 4.1.2 gingerbread is too slow and too ugly to use it. I rather have little smoother UI and nice looking rom more up to date than old, slow, sluggish, ugly rom. Also gingerbread doesnt have hw acceleration. There you have it.
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Just because I can listen to music on a Sony CD Walkman just as well as a MP3 player doesn't mean I should.
It worked just fine but it is older, clunkier and not as well developed as the player today. Tech moves forward, so should we.
Nuff said :idea:
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Time to move on WP probably. HTC 8S is tingling my mind and is ridicoulosly cheap here because everyone wants android phone now. 8S is very fluid and great battery life...
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This thread is something like Nokia 6600 vs galaxy s3
Don't know from where people came and ask questions
I like things from both.... I just run out of ram so quickly now..
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Gingerbread on the Nex4

Hey all,
I was just wondering: how would Gingerbread be on a Nexus 4? Comparing GB and JB on my old phone I think battery life would certainly gain a boost, just like how fluent everything is. Then again I like the JB UI way better, JB has more functions and more apps will be incompatible using GB.
What is your view?
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I'm viewing something retarded^^^^^^
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lmao
It may sound strange and I was just wondering. If you think it's retarded please explain why.
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Don't even think it's possible to port, and if you did miracle it onto your phone it would run like ass (necessitating yet another miracle).
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id10terrordfw said:
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Guess it can be closed better anyway.
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That is impossible unless you're willing to build it and or make sure all drivers work as well and or reverse engineer the drivers to work on GB.
Plus why would you want GB? because of battery? Hell no, JB is much efficient and Android has matured enough.
Why will it never be done? Two words. "Project Butter"
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So you can go back to laggy scrolling, laggy web browsing, laggy homescreens, high audio latency, and just about laggy everything else?
Densitymax said:
lmao
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No 10char?
Remcotjuuh said:
What is your view?
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I think you ate a bit too many "special" gingerbread cookies...
Well, gingerbread isn't ideal to be honest.
However, a port of ICS or JB (4.1) can most likely boost the performance and battery life.
On the nexus 7, 4.1 ran better than 4.2 did. Performance and battery wise.
peachpuff said:
I think you ate a bit too many "special" gingerbread cookies...
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typed live from a cafe in amsterdam
Lol
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OP: no worries, i was thinking the same things last night. Yes, i know its stupid but people do it with other operating systems.
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Dude, no. Just no. It will not be better, whoever told you that is so wrong.
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Look.
1rst, paranodroid.
2cnd: faux123 kernel
3r: go to his post and use "battery saver config"
4: enjoy.
there's nothing wrong with the thought, I wondered too but you would have to reverse everything for it and its not worth it, but battery life is better on JB due to optimization, GB was single core days,also many apps may not be supported,

Android 4.4.2 KitKat

What do you think about the new android version. In my opinion, it's great , with better UI( if the leaked photos are true) , less RAM usage and new kernel. What do you think about the S2? Will Samsung update our phone ? In my opinion Samsung will not update the S2 or the Galaxy Ace or Mini...
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No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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ahmedelhofy said:
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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Yea,thats true, even if samsung don't update it, the leaked images are showing a cool interface
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-Grift- said:
No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
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The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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There are rumors that it will support all current devices
It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.
- Google
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...re-some-things-we-are-expecting-to-see-in-it/
Caproid said:
The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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I think you may be misunderstanding the sites. They say its possible for 4.4 to run on our device. No updates mentioned.
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Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
4.4 is made for less ram usage... Some sites say Ace can run it... Ace has 278 mb of RAM
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Caproid said:
4.4 is made for less ram usage...
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Source ?
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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krazy1101 said:
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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4.2.2 and 4.3 are full of bloatware...that's why our s2 can't run it....in fact 4.4 will be slimmer...Most of the sites, say that android 4.4 will be released in October 14, which in my case is tomorrow....
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Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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hikarugo said:
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter if our device still lacks a proper driver. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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What?
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-Grift- said:
Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
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The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Caproid said:
The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Yes I know that. But our phone has no problem running 4.2.2 or 4.3 that are AOSP based...... So whats the purpose of this thread anyway.... Cus Sammy has no intention of ever updating this phone to a higher version...
hikarugo said:
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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This OmniRom thing might help when you look at the people running it
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DvWatt said:
Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
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Untill now, the S2 is running is able to run 4.3.1 and 100% it will able to run 4.4
Samsung adds a lot of bloatware to their official roms which make the device slow
that's why I never use stock rom
Yea but what about cool features like multi window smart functions and motion ?
If this doesn't mean smth for you .... what about drivers? 4.2/4.3 have a lot of glitches with graphics and cuz samsung dont release exynos source code our beloved s2 will die one day in a near future
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