[Q] Kies and OTA updates - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone
Few days ago when I entered Kies to see if there are any updates for my firmware there was a message there's a new update so I installed it via Kies.
On the other hand, when I checked at the same time through the settings of the device I was told that I have the latest firmware.
My question is why is it?
Why the OTA service told me that I have the latest firmware and at the same time the Kies told me there is a new update.
Is there a problem with the rom?
I must say I have the BTU stock rom but I'm not from England, but from Israel.
Do I need to be from England to get the OTA?
Thanks in advance

No. I'm from Israel and I've got same thing. Same thing with Galaxy S3. AFAIK, there was always a discrepancy between OTA and OKIES updates.
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V3ct0rIL said:
No. I'm from Israel and I've got same thing. Same thing with Galaxy S3. AFAIK, there was always a discrepancy between OTA and OKIES updates.
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So you mean that OTA updates always come with delay of few days after Kies?
BTW, you have also the BTU stock rom?

I wouldn't know about days, but I've never had the same update be available via both routes.
Also, I've got the EMJ9 RIM, but mine is downloaded manually, since my phone is rooted. Long story short, before I manually installed 4.3, I updated via Kies (after which my phone failed to boot, allegedly since it was rooted).
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V3ct0rIL said:
I wouldn't know about days, but I've never had the same update be available via both routes.
Also, I've got the EMJ9 RIM, but mine is downloaded manually, since my phone is rooted. Long story short, before I manually installed 4.3, I updated via Kies (after which my phone failed to boot, allegedly since it was rooted).
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Anyway, you say next time I can even not check for Kies and the update will arrive through OTA to my device sooner or later after it is released via Kies, right?

I wouldn't count on it. While I regularly check via OTA just for the fun of it. But mostly every time I ever updated was via Kies, rather than OTA.
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V3ct0rIL said:
I wouldn't count on it. While I regularly check via OTA just for the fun of it. But mostly every time I ever updated was via Kies, rather than OTA.
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Yeah but you said it will arrive eventually to both - Kies and OTA. Just Kies will arrive earlier.

No, what I said is that as far as I know there is a difference in time, between when the updates arrive to Kies and OTA. I'm quite sure the update will arrive OTA too, but that could be a week, or that could be a few months, that I can't tell you :-\
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V3ct0rIL said:
No, what I said is that as far as I know there is a difference in time, between when the updates arrive to Kies and OTA. I'm quite sure the update will arrive OTA too, but that could be a week, or that could be a few months, that I can't tell you :-\
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Oh OK that's fine with me. I doubt that it would take months but week or so it sure can take.

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New Kies 2.0.3.11082_152, no firmware update on NEE

Finland, new Kies version. No firmware update -- still same offering: PDA:JVH / PHONE:JVO / CSC:JV3 (NEE)
I really hope they will give us something new. Like GTalk 2 with video support
I got the new Kies on Monday. In my experience that sometimes predates an Android update, which was promised for the end of September.
If you guys aren't using Odin, you may want to give it a try.
Once I learned about how to use Odin, I couldn't go back to Kies ever again...
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I've used Odin and tried all the custom ROMs. I decided I prefer to keep it stock. Waiting for OTA updates to kick in though...
I am in Serbia and I got the same update, but no ginger yet.. I don't want to do it myself because of the warranty,so I'm waiting for couple of months now..
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amwebby said:
I've used Odin and tried all the custom ROMs. I decided I prefer to keep it stock. Waiting for OTA updates to kick in though...
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I'm on stock currently myself. You don't need Odin for custom ROMs, there's plenty of stock already on samfirmware.com.
Kies already bricked my i9000m twice using Samsung official firmware. Samsung's response was that the firmware wasn't available for my area yet. I told them that Kies gave me the green light, and their response was still the FW wasn't approved yet. That was a PITA to get resolved.
Samfirmware.com has firmwares (including stock) that many have tried, and Odin takes the tedious waiting out too. Between waiting and 2 bricked phones from Kies, I am done with Kies forever!...
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Hmm, Samfirmwares may be stock but not necessarily official releases. I don't trust Kies although I've never had a really bad experience using it. I just want OTA updates like I used to have on my Nokia 4 years ago!
amwebby said:
Hmm, Samfirmwares may be stock but not necessarily official releases. I don't trust Kies although I've never had a really bad experience using it. I just want OTA updates like I used to have on my Nokia 4 years ago!
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There's a few that are 100% official. The rest are stock waiting for carriers to chop them up.
Honestly the only thing that you are waiting for is carrier bloatware.
BTW I used to be a Nokia e71/72 user myself...
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Luckily mine is carrier-free. Discerning the "final official" roms and installing them whilst retaining my current set up is what concerns me. Like I said, petitioning for OTA updates.
It would be best to work like google chrome browser auto update. It downloads the update, and next time you start it it installs. No questions asked... no time wasted... Always the newest firmware. OTA of course. It could work on android. Downloads update, waits for restart. When restarted if battery >60% installs. Piece of cake...
thurtig said:
Finland, new Kies version. No firmware update -- still same offering: PDA:JVH / PHONE:JVO / CSC:JV3 (NEE)
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Now I'm on JVS STOCK+ v1.5 and with this new Kies version , when I plug the phone and open the Kies, the message displayed is:
Firmware information
S/W version in your phone is not an official version.
Firmware upgrade of unofficial S/W version is not suported.
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Kies works ok but this message didn't apears in the old Kies version.
Lol
Samfireware.com does carry stock Samsung roms (it is not an official Samsung site) and they aren't official releases.
I have the 2.3.5 update from there and it is noticably quicker that the official 2.3.3. That being said kies detects the new version and says that its not official and that the upgrade service is not available for non-official versions. If samsung release an official update I might flash back to and older version then update through kies if I really had to which is no drama.
Brian
emilcioran99 said:
Now I'm on JVS STOCK+ v1.5 and with this new Kies version , when I plug the phone and open the Kies, the message displayed is:
Kies works ok but this message didn't apears in the old Kies version.
Lol
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For novice users, Samsung should just ditch Kies and go with OTAs...
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ccrows said:
For novice users, Samsung should just ditch Kies and go with OTAs...
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I noticed today the UK Samsung site has full instructions for OTA updates, which they call FOTA, for Firmware Over The Air.
The instructions were posted just after the last official update in August. Hopefully a sign that OTA is on the way.
amwebby said:
I noticed today the UK Samsung site has full instructions for OTA updates, which they call FOTA, for Firmware Over The Air.
The instructions were posted just after the last official update in August. Hopefully a sign that OTA is on the way.
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If possible can you provide link to that instruction?
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androiderrr said:
If possible can you provide link to that instruction?
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http://skp.samsungcsportal.com/integrated/popup/HtgDetailGuide.jsp?cdsite=uk&seq=7406
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http://skp.samsungcsportal.com/integrated/popup/HtgDetailGuide.jsp?cdsite=uk&seq=7406
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Interesting,thanks for sharing the link
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Guys, i need some help/tips about updating my Firmware. I have a samsumsung GT-I9000 with Android 2.2 (Froyo). I know that there is a newer version (2.3 or so).
I downloaded Samsung Kies but on the general information screen it doesn´t give me the option to update the firmware version, it is only showing me my firmware version (not the latest version available, neither the chance of updaiting it).
I have tryed to install the Kies in differents PCs and I had the same issue.
My GF has a Samsung 5500 (Samsung Galaxy Europe) with Android 2.1, and we had the same problem trying to (or not having the chance to) update the firmware.
My first option is to try with Kies as it is an official source (I don´t want to have troubles with the warranty), but if it is not possible let me know any other way to update our phones.
I will really appreciate any help.
Cheers,
It sounds as if your SGS is tied to a carrier, in which case you are dependent on them for their version of the upgrade.
I would contact them first. If you get no joy there your only option is to "unlock" the phone from that carrier, thus enabling Kies to give you the generic upgrade.
This is what I did. I was locked to o2, here in the UK. Upon unlocking I get the latest generic update via Kies as soon as it becomes available, which is months before o2.

4.1.1 JellyBean Update not OTA?

Is the 4.1.1 update not OTA? I tried OTA and it says no update is available.
So I take it the only way to update to 4.1.1 is using Samsung Kies?
RodneyBR said:
Is the 4.1.1 update not OTA? I tried OTA and it says no update is available.
So I take it the only way to update to 4.1.1 is using Samsung Kies?
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That depends on what model you have, but yes you can update using Kies or download from SamMobile
I have the GT-P3113. I used Kies, but it said no update available. I currently have 4.0.4. I take it I have to download 4.1.1 and manually update it?
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RodneyBR said:
I have the GT-P3113. I used Kies, but it said no update available. I currently have 4.0.4. I take it I have to download 4.1.1 and manually update it?
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there is no officially released JB update for the 3113 just yet there is a NON-OTA release here http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&model=GT-P3113&pcode=XAR&os=1&type=3#firmware if your updating from the UEBLH2 version of ICS 4.0.4 but since it's not an OTA (yet, might be might not) if you hard brick going up to it then thats it samsung won't warranty it.
the 3100 and 3110 (depending on regions) have begun to recieve official OTA's but NOT the 3113, we just have to wait and see or take the risk and flash whats here in the development threads that they say works for the 3113.
5110 UK bought yesterday OTA offered yesterday to 4.1.1
jje
This waiting sucks. LOL
Would be nice to get confirmation if the 3113 will get an update, because I really wanna leave it stock for now.
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daniel644 said:
there is no officially released JB update for the 3113 just yet there is a NON-OTA release here http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&model=GT-P3113&pcode=XAR&os=1&type=3#firmware if your updating from the UEBLH2 version of ICS 4.0.4 but since it's not an OTA (yet, might be might not) if you hard brick going up to it then thats it samsung won't warranty it.
the 3100 and 3110 (depending on regions) have begun to recieve official OTA's but NOT the 3113, we just have to wait and see or take the risk and flash whats here in the development threads that they say works for the 3113.
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I can't get GPS lock at all on mine, but other than that the 3110 latest UK OTA works great on my 3113.
daniel644 said:
there is no officially released JB update for the 3113 just yet there is a NON-OTA release here http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&model=GT-P3113&pcode=XAR&os=1&type=3#firmware if your updating from the UEBLH2 version of ICS 4.0.4 but since it's not an OTA (yet, might be might not) if you hard brick going up to it then thats it samsung won't warranty it.
the 3100 and 3110 (depending on regions) have begun to recieve official OTA's but NOT the 3113, we just have to wait and see or take the risk and flash whats here in the development threads that they say works for the 3113.
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I tried that non-official-OTA last night and did not have good results...
I tried restoring with Kies,but that didn't work.
So, I had to download the stock 4.0.4 image and flash with Odin.
All is well now. But, I will definitely wait out JB - or root - haven't decided fully.
there is also this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885878 I believe its based off the same unreleased (possible OTA) but it's had all the "basics" done to it, like rooting, deodexing and stuff like that, that is standard treatment to ALL Custom ROMS.
I reflashed 404 last night and it downloaded a 286mb update to 411 ota. I have a 5110
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uberNoobZA said:
I reflashed 404 last night and it downloaded a 286mb update to 411 ota. I have a 5110
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where talking about the 3113, which is apparently going to be the last to get it, mines 18 days since unboxing it never rooted or anything and I checked last night and there was still no OTA.
P5110 DBT means free unbranded german version is still on 4.0.3! No official update.
So please stop crying
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Scarsofthumper - Must be a problem with your tab (is gps on) as my updated jb tab found me in Rome very quickly, so it's not an issue with the is.
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daniel644 said:
where talking about the 3113, which is apparently going to be the last to get it, mines 18 days since unboxing it never rooted or anything and I checked last night and there was still no OTA.
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As I did not quote any posts I was replying to the original post and I don't see anywhere in op that it says 3113. And I DID specify in my post that I am using 5110, so as not to confuse anyone.
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uberNoobZA said:
As I did not quote any posts I was replying to the original post and I don't see anywhere in op that it says 3113. And I DID specify in my post that I am using 5110, so as not to confuse anyone.
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and in the second post someone asked the OP what version of the tab 2 he has and was answered in the 3rd post in the thread as the 3113, maybe try reading more then just one post next time, less confusion that way.
RodneyBR said:
This waiting sucks. LOL
Would be nice to get confirmation if the 3113 will get an update, because I really wanna leave it stock for now.
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Really???
Samsung already announced it, and there already is a test build on SamMobile so why the negativity? Samsung never announces OTA dates. Seeing they have delivered most of the P3100 countries the official P3113 won;t be far behind if you really have to wait for the official.
daniel644 said:
and in the second post someone asked the OP what version of the tab 2 he has and was answered in the 3rd post in the thread as the 3113, maybe try reading more then just one post next time, less confusion that way.
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My bad for not reading all posts in detail, as I go follow a free forums so 'scim' when entering a new thread. Did not realize third post was original poster and as 5th was about 5110, I did not realize this was a 3113 only thread. Apologies . Maybe I'd we ask a moderator nicely they can delete the 5110 related replies and then we can get the op title changed to include 3113
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My 3113 ix unlocked and rooted but recovery is stock, will I get jb via OTA?
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joe2262 said:
My 3113 ix unlocked and rooted but recovery is stock, will I get jb via OTA?
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Not sure about 3113, as I have 5110, but if you check the device status of the tab (settings - about - status) and it does not say modified, then you should get ota when it is available
I think it only says modified if you flashsd custom rom, but I may be wrong. You should be able to use triangle away to drop flash counter to 0 (it worked on my 5110)
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My device status reads modified. Guess that means I''ll have to flash it, I purchased Mobile Odin
Pro after I rooted.
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N5110 Update This Morning

My N5110 received an update this morning going from MF1 to MF2 (Build JZO54K.N5110XXBMF2)
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My N5110 received an update this morning going from MF1 to MF2 (Build JZO54K.N5110XXBMF2)
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Hmm, I'm still getting told I'm up to date, while running off build JZO54K.N5110UEEMF1.
Ill look into it nothing showing on my sources. May be to early for thr servers to update
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Conected my rooted N5110 EMF1 to kies and the software says: Up to date.
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Hmm, I'm still getting told I'm up to date, while running off build JZO54K.N5110UEEMF1.
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that's because there is a difference between XXBMF1 and UEEMF1...they're not the same. One had an update available, one didn't.
Oh, I see: the version with the modem . Thanks for not flaming btw.
I hope they're prepping it up for a 4.2.2 update.
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Oh, I see: the version with the modem . Thanks for not flaming btw.
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No prob . Actually I think those first three letters refer to the different country codes for the N5110 firmwares, not another model of the Note like the N5120 (the one with the modem). Different countries or regions may have their own variations and features for a particular model, like our N5110.
Xx is for international I believe. And we all know what xxx stands for. Joke hee hee corny I know.
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Hmmph! All I get is: "Your device has been modified. No updates available.":crying:
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If I'd root my note 8 will I be able to flash ota updates if I temp unroot with voodoo root keeper?
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Just a quick note. This updated version does seem to resolve the freezing issues I had with the update over a week ago. I only found out there was an update when I connected the Note 8 to my Mac and waited for 10 minutes while KIES tried to find it (who wrote that software!!!). KIES eventually said there was an update so I tried to download it but it was taking ages so I tried on the Note 8 and it download immediately (at 56Kbps modem speed).
FYI : it is a UK international Note 8 used in Spain.
The U.S. Wi-Fi also got upped now, woke up to JZO54K.N5110UEEMF2 waiting to install .
Yes - it works for me
mouse100 said:
If I'd root my note 8 will I be able to flash ota updates if I temp unroot with voodoo root keeper?
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That's how I do it. Using Voodoo OTA RootKeeper. This AM I got the notice the software update was available. I run the "Temp.un-root" then installed the updates. This has worked for the last 3 updates; UEDMD1, UEEMF1, & UEEMF2. After updates finish, run the Root Restore.
I'll,habe the update.zip in my thread in android development
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All it said was "Stability updates"....
Just give me 4.2.2 already
File is available for download in my thread in Android development for those who are interested
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How can i use your file? Only odin?
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Maybe....I'm not sure I went.back to stock,recovery and.flashed that way
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Kies will now upgrade rooted phones

Just an FYI, I plugged in my phone to Kies fully expecting it to say it could not update because it had been modified... but no. It updated to latest build as if it were not rooted. It killed root (of course), but ... And the process took MUCH less time than last update I did.
Its updated rooted phones for as long as I've known. Its in "understanding the basics before rooting" in the updates section.
OTA will not update though. Again,.in the basics thread
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I thought that too kies updates fine and ota gives you errors
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Its always been OTA either does not download in full or gives install error ,
Kies has always updated rooted phones /
OP is wrong Kies will reject custom roms or those with wrong product or csc details .
Not that Kies is ever used by XDAers
jje
JJEgan said:
Not that Kies is ever used by XDAers
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Wrong.
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Wrong.
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I use kies when I'm rooted getting new updates
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Samsung is neglecting to update GT-N7100 to JellyBean 4.3

I read everywhere that the Note II was updated to Android version 4.3 - all the US carriers.
I own the international version, GT-N7100 (imported by newegg.com from UK). I purchase it because I didn't want to wait for the US carriers to procrastinate with their updates. I thought that having a version that Samsung directly updates will be more prompt.
Here we are, forth week of January 2014 and I still have version 4.1.2
I wonder why is Samsung not updating the GT-N7100 to version 4.3.
It's surprising to notice that not too many people complain....
I'm using international n7100 and mine was updated in December. It's releasing region by region. Hold in there brother
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I'm using international n7100 and mine was updated in December. It's releasing region by region. Hold in there brother
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Is Petaling Jaya in Malaysia? Lucky you... What's the story with users in the US and/or UK?
Yes it's in malaysia.
Did u try checking for updates via kies? It takes forever to receive any updates via ota
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also Sri lanka
vash_h said:
Yes it's in malaysia.
Did u try checking for updates via kies? It takes forever to receive any updates via ota
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Sri lanka stil did not get 4.3 update... (gt-n7100)
Very slow to releasing their update region by region.................... :crying:
No update in south-america too.
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UK Version already had the update - since December.
Bert.C said:
UK Version already had the update - since December.
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My UK phone is used in the US. Does it matter?
Well guys if you're in such a hurry to update (I completely understand - because I was too) then just flash with Odin. Download ROM for your country from Sam mobile and flash it! I did it couple of times because I couldn't wait for OTA (and OTAs wouldn't work anyway becasuse I was rooted)...
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Well guys if you're in such a hurry to update (I completely understand - because I was too) then just flash with Odin. Download ROM for your country from Sam mobile and flash it! I did it couple of times because I couldn't wait for OTA (and OTAs wouldn't work anyway becasuse I was rooted)...
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Yup me too. But I prefer to do it via kies. I go to sammobile and the moment I see my country formate available I connect my phone to pc and update via kies.
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It's pretty much not in their business interests to give the latest updates to their phones. Otherwise people would not upgrade or change their devices every year.
"Need 4.4.2? Oh, you'll have to get a Note 3. sure, we'll give you updates in the future. Didn't say immediate future, Did we?"
finaly update 4.3
rchi84 said:
It's pretty much not in their business interests to give the latest updates to their phones. Otherwise people would not upgrade or change their devices every year.
"Need 4.4.2? Oh, you'll have to get a Note 3. sure, we'll give you updates in the future. Didn't say immediate future, Did we?"
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finally today received 4.3 update for Sri Lanka

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