Safe to update to 4.4 w/stock OTA rooted? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm running rooted w/stock OTA 4.3. Are there any special upgrade procedures to update to 4.4 when rooted via Koush superuser and using the stock OTA?
Was able to update to 4.3 OTA w/o incident (see thread below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45183403#post45183403

Bump...any info on whether or not its possible would be appreciated.

It should work as long as everything is stock (including recovery and kernel). You will however lose root, but that can easily be reobtained by flashing it after updating.

mrlad said:
I'm running rooted w/stock OTA 4.3. Are there any special upgrade procedures to update to 4.4 when rooted via Koush superuser and using the stock OTA?
Was able to update to 4.3 OTA w/o incident (see thread below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45183403#post45183403
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If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others... I am just curious since I see people do this and it confuses me... Just askin and sorry if you think I may be flamin'.
Do people think the OTA is different somehow or works better somehow

playya said:
If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others... I am just curious since I see people do this and it confuses me... Just askin and sorry if you think I may be flamin'.
Do people think the OTA is different somehow or works better somehow
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Pretty sure that if I flash stock ROM I'm going to lose my settings. I've had VERY bad results backing up and restoring going from 4.2 to 4.3 and really don't want to go through that hassle unless absolutely required.
To answer your other question, I just prefer to be on the OTA.

mrlad said:
Pretty sure that if I flash stock ROM I'm going to lose my settings. I've had VERY bad results backing up and restoring going from 4.2 to 4.3 and really don't want to go through that hassle unless absolutely required.
To answer your other question, I just prefer to be on the OTA.
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If you are on a stock rom and flash the upgraded version you wont lose your settings. Flashing one rom over another can be done its just frowned up in some cases. Lets be honest though there are quite a few back up tools out there for you to achieve a duplicated look going from one rom to another within the hour.
I hear ya if you had issues but you sure its not in your procedure. Be glad to help you if you need it. Thanks for answering the question though but I believe your route is more cumbersome than just a simple flash but what ever makes you more comfortable is best I get that

mrlad said:
I'm running rooted w/stock OTA 4.3. Are there any special upgrade procedures to update to 4.4 when rooted via Koush superuser and using the stock OTA?
Was able to update to 4.3 OTA w/o incident (see thread below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45183403#post45183403
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Mine was same specs like yours (stock 4.3 - rooted by Koush superuser) and updated to 4.4 through OTA just fine :good:
Never had any problem with Koush superuser and OTAs on both Nexus 4 & Galaxy Nexus (can't say the same with supersu)

Tried to upgrade to 4.4. The upgrade failed and the phone reports no command when I reboot. Still on stock recovery.
Any suggestions on what I should try next to recover?
Note: I do have TWRP available while running fastboot.

I installed the factory stock image (and formatted the cache but didn't wipe out the userdata image). I know the first boot should take an extended amount of time, but its been showing the rotating circles for about 8 minutes now. What is a reasonable amount of time for the initial boot?

Wiping the cache and the Dalvik cache from TWRP solved it. I'm rooted again and things appear to be back to normal.

playya said:
If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others...
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Well....I'm on the stock ROM now (Google forced my hand).

mrlad said:
Well....I'm on the stock ROM now (Google forced my hand).
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what does that mean?

playya said:
what does that mean?
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The 4.4 OTA upgrade failed and wouldn't boot. A poor attempt at humor I guess.

mrlad said:
The 4.4 OTA upgrade failed and wouldn't boot. A poor attempt at humor I guess.
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root it and flash anything you want my friend... take control of your phone back...

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Currently on 4.2, can't update to 4.3 -- options?

Hey guys. I want to get to 4.4.2 but I'm currently on 4.2. I have root and a custom recovery, and my OTA updates are failing a verification check. The OTA is trying to update to 4.3.
Is there a zip I can flash to go to 4.4.2 without having to wipe my phone? Or do I need to flash in order? Or is my only option wiping everything and flashing stock (how would I do that)? If that's the case I'll probably just stick with 4.2. I want to skip right over 4.3 because that was a buggy mess for me that ultimately resulted in terrible battery life and broken apps. But I've heard good things about 4.4.2
bump..
Sounds like you want a flashable stock 4.2.2 build, right? Haven't tried it myself, but it seems this thread is where you want to look.
Use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566042
It's a flashable zip of the 4.4.2 Stock ROM, only zipaligned (doesn't cause problems in OTA). Flash it through TWRP, and you're done. Good luck!
bruinhoo said:
Sounds like you want a flashable stock 4.2.2 build, right? Haven't tried it myself, but it seems this thread is where you want to look.
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That's not quite what I was looking for but thank you for the answer.
Lt.Win said:
Use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566042
It's a flashable zip of the 4.4.2 Stock ROM, only zipaligned (doesn't cause problems in OTA). Flash it through TWRP, and you're done. Good luck!
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That's what I wanted! Thanks much, seems to be working great. Loving everything but the white phone app and I dislike Hangouts. Thanks much. :]

[Q] SuperSU OTA or Flash rom?

Howdy
I've followed the instructions on rooting my Nexus 4 along with all subsequent updates from nexus4root.com
However, that site has been inactive since 26Nov, 2013.
So I'm running a rooted stock 4.4 KRT16S and have got the 4.4.2 OTA update sitting on my phone waiting to get installed.
Please help me with advice on one of these two options:
1] A link to a file and instructions where I can update from 4.4 rooted to 4.4.2 rooted.
or
2] Will enabling OTA survival on my SuperSU v1.86 and then tapping on the OTA 4.4.2 on my device work?
Much thanks in advance
Cal.
Clockworkmod recovery 6.0.4.3 is onboard
calvinv said:
Howdy
I've followed the instructions on rooting my Nexus 4 along with all subsequent updates from nexus4root.com
However, that site has been inactive since 26Nov, 2013.
So I'm running a rooted stock 4.4 KRT16S and have got the 4.4.2 OTA update sitting on my phone waiting to get installed.
Please help me with advice on one of these two options:
1] A link to a file and instructions where I can update from 4.4 rooted to 4.4.2 rooted.
or
2] Will enabling OTA survival on my SuperSU v1.86 and then tapping on the OTA 4.4.2 on my device work?
Much thanks in advance
Cal.
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Downloaded the factory image of 4.4.2 and flash. Since you are rooted do a nandroid backup, a Titanium Backup, and backup your sdcard because all of it will be wiped. This is if you are determined to have the stock 4.4.2 this is the only thing I can think of to get there.
You can also try a custom rom as well.
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Thank you Berry.
Wouldn't that cause me to lose root?
Supersu paid version is the only one that has survival mode(or originally was) and that's not guaranteed.
Definitely won't survive a factory image flash.
I know it works OTA from 4.3 to 4.4 but haven't tried 4.4,1 to 4.4.2. Should work and if it doesn't it is easy enough to re root.
Any problems feel free to ask.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.
calvinv said:
Thank you Berry.
Wouldn't that cause me to lose root?
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Yes, it would. Do this (only) if you are determined to run stock 4.4.2.
Sorry for the delay, if you don't quote, I won't get a notification.
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calvinv said:
Thank you Berry.
Wouldn't that cause me to lose root?
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You'll lose it but then just flash back supersu zip file and you're back rocking a rooted nexus. And btw, you don't need to flash factory image for 4.4.2. Just go to general section and look for a thread name OTA Helpdesk (use search option mate ) and flash/sideload the OTA file in recovery (preferably stock recovery or you can use twrp but cwm is a no go for OTA). Then flash back supersu. This is the easiest way and you still keep all your apps/data intact.
Berrydroidcafe said:
Sorry for the delay, if you don't quote, I won't get a notification.
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My bad, though I learnt something new there
Another of your comments made me decide to take the alternative ROM plunge.
So (deep breath) I've just flashed Paranoid Android's most recent rom
Loving the multi tiles within quick settings feature.
For the first half hour I kept trying to figure out where PA's setting are. After quite a bit of searching online, I found out that since it's being newly developed on KitKat, there are no PA settings at this point. Hope I've got that right?
Much thanks
Cal.
arffrhn said:
Just go to general section and look for a thread name OTA Helpdesk
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That was the perfect thread which answered my original query. Thank you and Bladebuddy

[Q] Root and OTA updates

HI All,
Sorry for this question, tried to serach for the asnwer, but I am still not clear.
mine Nexus 7 2012 WIFI, rooted, custom recovery and superuser installed currently runs on stock 4.4.2 KOT49H, will I get OTA updates for the latest 4.4.3 from googles? many thanks.
play541 said:
HI All,
Sorry for this question, tried to serach for the asnwer, but I am still not clear.
mine Nexus 7 2012 WIFI, rooted, custom recovery and superuser installed currently runs on stock 4.4.2 KOT49H, will I get OTA updates for the latest 4.4.3 from googles? many thanks.
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Hi, afraid if you've root on your device, more importantly, you have a custom recovery partition in your device, do not accept OTAs. This could permanently brick your Nexus 7. You may be able to temporarily "unroot" the device, removing the custom recovery and flashing back to full stock with stock recovery. Check your device's threads for any available guides.
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tinydynamite00 said:
Hi, afraid if you've root on your device, more importantly, you have a custom recovery partition in your device, do not accept OTAs. This could permanently brick your Nexus 7. You may be able to temporarily "unroot" the device, removing the custom recovery and flashing back to full stock with stock recovery. Check your device's threads for any available guides.
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Hi tinydynamite00,
Much appreciated.
I might try the Nexus tool to get back to full stock.
play541 said:
Hi tinydynamite00,
Much appreciated.
I might try the Nexus tool to get back to full stock.
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you don't really need to go back to stock. when the ota becomes available, either here on xda or when it's available on your tablet, download it then install it through the recovery on your tablet. you'll lose root but just flash a root package and you're all done. i've done this before and no problems what so ever.
mrbtree98 said:
you don't really need to go back to stock. when the ota becomes available, either here on xda or when it's available on your tablet, download it then install it through the recovery on your tablet. you'll lose root but just flash a root package and you're all done. i've done this before and no problems what so ever.
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Hi mrbtree98,
Thanks for your reply.
Does this one work for me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533035
play541 said:
Hi mrbtree98,
Thanks for your reply.
Does this one work for me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533035
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that's a custom rom or a modified stock rom. no one has got an ota for the 2012 nexus 7 and were the only nexus still to get 4.4.3 through ota. i'm also waiting but it's weird for there to be a gap from the other nexus's
play541 said:
Hi mrbtree98,
Thanks for your reply.
Does this one work for me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533035
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mrbtree98 said:
that's a custom rom or a modified stock rom. no one has got an ota for the 2012 nexus 7 and were the only nexus still to get 4.4.3 through ota. i'm also waiting but it's weird for there to be a gap from the other nexus's
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I would recommend that one, as its basically rooted stock which is what you're currently running anyway. You can just wipe cache and dalvik cache in recovery and flash it, no need to wipe data (so your apps/settings/files will all be untouched). If there are any questions in recovery to flash stock recovery or fix root just answer no to both, my root was kept intact without having to reflash superSU. It saves waiting for the OTA (which still isn't here for some reason) and the risk of it failing/losing root/custom recovery for whatever reason.
As always just in case, make a full nandroid backup in recovery, then flash the ROM. You shouldn't have any problems. :good:
mrbtree98 said:
that's a custom rom or a modified stock rom. no one has got an ota for the 2012 nexus 7 and were the only nexus still to get 4.4.3 through ota. i'm also waiting but it's weird for there to be a gap from the other nexus's
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Thank you Sir!
Okay, correct me if I am wrong:
if OTA updates available, do not proceed to DL (over WIFI) and do not let tablet do the installation, as it might cause problem (brick?).
DL thru XDA install thru recovery instead. ( either in ZIP or .img? format).
play541 said:
Thank you Sir!
Okay, correct me if I am wrong:
if OTA updates available, do not proceed to DL (over WIFI) and do not let tablet do the installation, as it might cause problem (brick?).
DL thru XDA install thru recovery instead. ( either in ZIP or .img? format).
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You'll probaby get a status 7 error and the update won't apply, I would recommend the rooted stock based ROM you linked to above, quick and easy to update rather than waiting for an OTA and trying to update that way.
gsmyth said:
You'll probaby get a status 7 error and the update won't apply, I would recommend the rooted stock based ROM you linked to above, quick and easy to update rather than waiting for an OTA and trying to update that way.
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HI gsmyth,
Thanks for your advices,
you guys are very helpfull, much appreciated.

Lollipop 5.1.1 stock image is up !

Finally ! Straight from Google DEVS
"razor" for Nexus 7 [2013] (Wi-Fi) 5.1.1 (LMY47V)
Thank You
Just flashed it. I wasn't having any issues, but I hope it fixes problems for others.
just lou said:
Just flashed it. I wasn't having any issues, but I hope it fixes problems for others.
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Can you check if the bootloader is still 04.05 or it changed?
I heard, it is the same
idCyber said:
Can you check if the bootloader is still 04.05 or it changed?
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Its 4.05 bootloader still. Somehow in the zip its called bootloader-flo-flo-04.05.img
There's a new kernel, some changes in the source. Its compiled March 21
Not much else changed
Has any one got the ota yet ?
@Vkk187
ofc not.
Flash the stock image with NRT and check "dirty flash" and that will not delete your apps and data.
Yet to unlock my BL ...I know it's simple . Will do it some day [emoji18]
AonI updated to 5.1 rooted stock via TWRP a couple weeks ago.
Today I just got this update notification for 5.1
Is today's notification for 5.1.1? Because it only says 5.1
Do we have a rooted stock file we can flash in TWRP?
ymDroid said:
Do we have a rooted stock file we can flash in TWRP?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...my47v-root-t3098137/post60479181#post60479181
I just got the 5.1 update. It shows 5.1.1 as the Android version.
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I just completely flash-all every time a new build comes out as I do not know how to side load using NRT or TWRP (am I wasting my time on doing it this way). If someone could please explain to me how to side load I would be forever grateful. I have searched and cannot find clear instructions or walk through on side loading
Having read wugfresh page,it says Since lollipop,its hard to sideload OTA now. I myself try it last night with my rooted stock recovery,it fails to install the OTA from google,even if file has been downloaded automatically. Its harder to get OTA install smoothly nowadays especially if you on lollipop. No choice had full flash without wipe. And reroot again.
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ksloh1 said:
Having read wugfresh page,it says Since lollipop,its hard to sideload OTA now. I myself try it last night with my rooted stock recovery,it fails to install the OTA from google,even if file has been downloaded automatically. Its harder to get OTA install smoothly nowadays especially if you on lollipop. No choice had full flash without wipe. And reroot again.
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Actually, it's just as easy sideloading as it's always been. The difference is that you can't sideload an OTA (or receive one in any way) if you've done any kind of alterations to the system. This includes rooting and/or flashing custom recoveries and kernels. Even if you unroot there are still residue alterations in your system, meaning you'll have to do a full system flash anyway.
It's worth mentioning that unlocking your bootloader does not prevent installing an OTA.
How is this version running compare to the 5.0?
Jaylex31 said:
How is this version running compare to the 5.0?
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Any versions of Android on the Nexus 7 2013 ran fine for me.

[warning!!!] [psa] do not - *do not* root your phone if you want updates

A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F
skivnit said:
How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F
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Lol
I believe you still can update your phone legibly through smart switch
or kies if you using older samsung device
So basically your saying its like it has been from the beginning? Say it aint so!!!
tusing said:
A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
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You need stock kernel briski
Odin
Stock kernel and stock recovery should be enough. Or flash the same ROM as you have on top on your current throught Odin, update and re-root. But I'm not sure that root is already available to 5.1.1
This apply to any brand root phone. No OTA will work with root phone, some more you in custom kernel.
Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
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Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
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I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Mine was fine with OTA after rooting, if you have an issue then just flash stock recovery back and you will be good to go and still have root!
prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
anonymousss said:
Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
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Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Aha well the previous comment someone seems to have an ota with root no problems anyways..
prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
chippyuk said:
Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
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Lot of conflicting info in this thread. I'm confused.
From what I understand, the latest Firmware update/OTA (OCF build, I am sprint) fixed the deep sleep issue. So if you have that build and applied root, you should still be good, right?
An if you apply root, you cant take an OTA because it modifies recovery. But you are saying if you root, then re-flash stock recovery, you maintain root and can still receive and OTA. Can someone confirm all this as accurate?
jazenf said:
Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
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You can get it from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
I've had a quick just around but can't find any info on the negatives of rooting the s6. What functionalities do you loose by rooting this phone even if you install a modified Samsung rom? I didn't get the z3 because once rooted you lost digital rights to the hi def audio and camera processing

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