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Safe to update to 4.4 w/stock OTA rooted?

I'm running rooted w/stock OTA 4.3. Are there any special upgrade procedures to update to 4.4 when rooted via Koush superuser and using the stock OTA?
Was able to update to 4.3 OTA w/o incident (see thread below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45183403#post45183403

Bump...any info on whether or not its possible would be appreciated.

It should work as long as everything is stock (including recovery and kernel). You will however lose root, but that can easily be reobtained by flashing it after updating.

mrlad said:
I'm running rooted w/stock OTA 4.3. Are there any special upgrade procedures to update to 4.4 when rooted via Koush superuser and using the stock OTA?
Was able to update to 4.3 OTA w/o incident (see thread below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45183403#post45183403
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If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others... I am just curious since I see people do this and it confuses me... Just askin and sorry if you think I may be flamin'.
Do people think the OTA is different somehow or works better somehow

playya said:
If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others... I am just curious since I see people do this and it confuses me... Just askin and sorry if you think I may be flamin'.
Do people think the OTA is different somehow or works better somehow
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Pretty sure that if I flash stock ROM I'm going to lose my settings. I've had VERY bad results backing up and restoring going from 4.2 to 4.3 and really don't want to go through that hassle unless absolutely required.
To answer your other question, I just prefer to be on the OTA.

mrlad said:
Pretty sure that if I flash stock ROM I'm going to lose my settings. I've had VERY bad results backing up and restoring going from 4.2 to 4.3 and really don't want to go through that hassle unless absolutely required.
To answer your other question, I just prefer to be on the OTA.
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If you are on a stock rom and flash the upgraded version you wont lose your settings. Flashing one rom over another can be done its just frowned up in some cases. Lets be honest though there are quite a few back up tools out there for you to achieve a duplicated look going from one rom to another within the hour.
I hear ya if you had issues but you sure its not in your procedure. Be glad to help you if you need it. Thanks for answering the question though but I believe your route is more cumbersome than just a simple flash but what ever makes you more comfortable is best I get that

mrlad said:
I'm running rooted w/stock OTA 4.3. Are there any special upgrade procedures to update to 4.4 when rooted via Koush superuser and using the stock OTA?
Was able to update to 4.3 OTA w/o incident (see thread below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45183403#post45183403
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Mine was same specs like yours (stock 4.3 - rooted by Koush superuser) and updated to 4.4 through OTA just fine :good:
Never had any problem with Koush superuser and OTAs on both Nexus 4 & Galaxy Nexus (can't say the same with supersu)

Tried to upgrade to 4.4. The upgrade failed and the phone reports no command when I reboot. Still on stock recovery.
Any suggestions on what I should try next to recover?
Note: I do have TWRP available while running fastboot.

I installed the factory stock image (and formatted the cache but didn't wipe out the userdata image). I know the first boot should take an extended amount of time, but its been showing the rotating circles for about 8 minutes now. What is a reasonable amount of time for the initial boot?

Wiping the cache and the Dalvik cache from TWRP solved it. I'm rooted again and things appear to be back to normal.

playya said:
If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others...
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Well....I'm on the stock ROM now (Google forced my hand).

mrlad said:
Well....I'm on the stock ROM now (Google forced my hand).
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what does that mean?

playya said:
what does that mean?
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The 4.4 OTA upgrade failed and wouldn't boot. A poor attempt at humor I guess.

mrlad said:
The 4.4 OTA upgrade failed and wouldn't boot. A poor attempt at humor I guess.
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root it and flash anything you want my friend... take control of your phone back...

Root after manual update?

So I finally found some time for my unlocked and rooted nexus 4. Right now it is on 4.3 stock and I want to update to 4.4.2. Now the question which I couldn't find an answer on Google: Do I loose root after manual update? I've seen some videos on that, but some say that you need stock recovery (I have TWRP), but nothing about root.
Also, I'd install Franco kernel after that.
Help and possible tutorial would be appreciated, I'm still kinda new to android.

You can have a stock experience by installing the Experience ROM in the development thread.
Make sure you are running the latest TWRP before trying to flash a 4.4 ROM.

audit13 said:
You can have a stock experience by installing the Experience ROM in the development thread.
Make sure you are running the latest TWRP before trying to flash a 4.4 ROM.
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I want to use stock rom wirh fraco kernel. Again, do I loose root from 4.3 to 4.4?

brinmb said:
I want to use stock rom wirh fraco kernel. Again, do I loose root from 4.3 to 4.4?
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Yes, always when you flash another stock Rom, you will lose root.
But it's a matter of seconds to reroot after flashing latest supersu.zip through TWRP.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4

RASTAVIPER said:
Yes, always when you flash another stock Rom, you will lose root.
But it's a matter of seconds to reroot after flashing latest supersu.zip through TWRP.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4
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Alright, thanks. I guess I'll do thst.

[Q] CM11 Problem.. Help Needed

Hi all,
I am interested in the CM11 ROM. Last night I spent 6hrs trying and failed, epically.
Here is what I did already:
1. Downgraded from 4.4.2 back to factory
2. Successfully rooted
3. Installed ROM Manager
4. Successfully downloaded CM11 and latest GApps
Then when I tried to boot into recovery it kept going to a screen with a little android guy lying on his back with a red triangle!!! I tried six times.
I got frustrated and just updated back to 4.4.2 and have been dealing with it. I am still rooted and have been able to remove my bloatware and other things you need root access for.
Any thoughts or help as to how I can install the CM11 rom?? I am happy running NovaLauncher and using DynamicNotifications to approximate it but really want to try out CM11.
Cheers and thanks!

Lucky there is no way to root on 4.4.2 yet or atleast no Recovery's yet it could be worse you're atleast rooted and it didn't brick your phone
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Did you actually try flashing a recovery first? Just installing ROM manager won't install the custom recovery needed to flash ROMs. You have to do that step as well.

JRJ442 said:
Did you actually try flashing a recovery first? Just installing ROM manager won't install the custom recovery needed to flash ROMs. You have to do that step as well.
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No, I didn't. I am super new with android. Had an iphone for a long time. How do I flash a recover? Can I still do it now on 4.4.2 b/c its rooted?
Sorry about the noob questions, everyone is being very helpful!

follow this step..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681205

android_nashville said:
No, I didn't. I am super new with android. Had an iphone for a long time. How do I flash a recover? Can I still do it now on 4.4.2 b/c its rooted?
Sorry about the noob questions, everyone is being very helpful!
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LG blocked the Loki exploit with 4.4.2 so you can't flash recoveries currently. You'd have to flash back to 4.2.2 to do that. Which if you want custom ROMs now its going to have to be done sooner or later. Which carrier and model number do you have? If you have an international D802 the above post by @zekurosu will work for you, otherwise don't use that one. You're gonna have to find the method for your model number.

My first guess was that you missed the flashing the custom recovery step, which people above me have already helped ya out on. For being new to Android you did fairly well, you just missed that one step.
Good luck!

JRJ442 said:
LG blocked the Loki exploit with 4.4.2 so you can't flash recoveries currently. You'd have to flash back to 4.2.2 to do that. Which if you want custom ROMs now its going to have to be done sooner or later. Which carrier and model number do you have? If you have an international D802 the above post by @zekurosu will work for you, otherwise don't use that one. You're gonna have to find the method for your model number.
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thanks, forgot to mention it was only for D802 :good:

zekurosu said:
thanks, forgot to mention it was only for D802 :good:
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I have an ATT D800 running 4.4.2. I can't decide whether its worth it to flash back to 4.2.2 to try again. Pretty happy with NovaLauncher + widgetlocke and fairly closely approximates what I am looking for.
For what its worth, I was in 4.2.2 when I tried the first time and failed. I think mackster is right, I didn't flash the custom recovery. I basically flashed back to 4.2.2->rooted->tried to boot into recovery (OVER and OVER) then gave up and upgraded back to 4.4.2.
Thanks for all the help. At least I now have a rooted phone and have been able to do some cool stuff with that. My goal is to get nexus 5 software in an LG G2 body (battery, camera, etc)

@android_nashville There's a way to have the best of both worlds. You can flash back to 4.2.2 (10d preferably) root, flash a custom recovery with Flashify or FreeGee. Both available on the play store. Then actually update to 4.4.2 following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483043. Eventually, if you want to flash custom ROMs you're going to have flash back to 4.2.2 and do this process regardless. The 4.4 aboot image (bootloader) can't be bypassed with Loki. Its been blocked. But some brilliant devs basically found out they can make a hybrid setup, with the 4.2.2 aboot, and everything else 4.4.2. This way you can have the ability to flash custom recovery, kernels and ROMs.

[newbie] galaxy s4 att UCUAMDL

hi all , sorry but my english is so bad
i just bought a galaxy s4 att secondhand , this had bassband UCUAMDL . and i checked the lastest version of it is 4.2.2
can i upgrade my phone up to 4.4 ?
and i dont know terminology about "MF3 - MK2 ............."
could you tell me ?
thanks so much :victory::victory::victory:

Root. Install TWRP recovery. Flash a rom 4.4.4 or try some lollipop love!! You are lucky enough to have an unlocked bootloader..

HORiZUN said:
Root. Install TWRP recovery. Flash a rom 4.4.4 or try some lollipop love!! You are lucky enough to have an unlocked bootloader..
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thanks so much ,
can you get me links :crying:
but MF3 - MK2 ............. what is it ?
when i flash rom , what i have to notice ?

I hope you don't have MF3. If that's the case, I'm pretty sure that SafeStrap is your only recovery option.

HORiZUN said:
I hope you don't have MF3. If that's the case, I'm pretty sure that SafeStrap is your only recovery option.
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but i dont know MF3 >"<
what is it ?
how check it on my phone ?

HORiZUN said:
I hope you don't have MF3. If that's the case, I'm pretty sure that SafeStrap is your only recovery option.
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i am in 4.2.2

sonluyen94 said:
but i dont know MF3 >"<
what is it ?
how check it on my phone ?
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I have the same question. hopefully someone will be able to explain it to us.

MF3 would be the last three digits of your system software version

HORiZUN said:
MF3 would be the last three digits of your system software version
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my baseband : I337UCUAMDL
kernel version : 3.4.0-453947 - [email protected] #1
android version : 4.2.2
build number : JDQ39.I337UCUAMDL
it is my phone >"<

You don't have MF3, and that's a good thing. You can install a custom recovery. You need to root, install a custom recovery, and then you can start flashing roms.

sonluyen94 said:
my baseband : I337UCUAMDL
kernel version : 3.4.0-453947 - [email protected] #1
android version : 4.2.2
build number : JDQ39.I337UCUAMDL
it is my phone >"<
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nogods said:
I have the same question. hopefully someone will be able to explain it to us.
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Ok, use TowelRoot.com to root the phone, and use TWRP manager to install TWRP on your device. After that check out the development section of this very forum and flash any ROM you wish. 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 or 5.0 or anywhere in between (Just read the thread and instructions first!!!). Whatever you do, never update using the OTA updater on the stock ROM! Also, dotn ever flash an image in Odin that isn't MDL, because if you go higher than MDL, you lose the ability to have a custom recovery. You are one of the lucky ones, cherish the ability, and read through threads before flashing, stuff. Good Luck!
Also, you don't have to worry if the ROM says safestrap compatible, because you don't have to use Safestrap, you can have TWRP instead (which is better), because all Safestrap ROMS are TWRP compatible, but not vice-versa.

npjohnson said:
Ok, use TowelRoot.com to root the phone, and use TWRP manager to install TWRP on your device. After that check out the development section of this very forum and flash any ROM you wish. 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 or 5.0 or anywhere in between (Just read the thread and instructions first!!!). Whatever you do, never update using the OTA updater on the stock ROM! Also, dotn ever flash an image in Odin that isn't MDL, because if you go higher than MDL, you lose the ability to have a custom recovery. You are one of the lucky ones, cherish the ability, and read through threads before flashing, stuff. Good Luck!
Also, you don't have to worry if the ROM says safestrap compatible, because you don't have to use Safestrap, you can have TWRP instead (which is better), because all Safestrap ROMS are TWRP compatible, but not vice-versa.
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thanks so much :fingers-crossed:
but can you talk to me what rom is good about battery ?

sonluyen94 said:
thanks so much :fingers-crossed:
but can you talk to me what rom is good about battery ?
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Most if not all. They're all built from either GPE or CM.

All good advice. Plus when you root and get Twrp recovery installed do a backup thru Twrp (Nandroid) and keep on phone and put a copy on pc. That way you have something to restore if you get in trouble. Also, your bootloader is not unlocked. No Att i337s are. Instead devs use an exploit called Loki-Doki to bypass Sammy's security checks to allow custom roms/kernels etc to flash. You can google Loki Doki and read up on it. If the rom or kernel is not loki'd you will have to flash the zip thru recovery to allow the rom or kernel to flash. You will come across this when flashing International roms and kernels. I don't have link any more so maybe someone else can link it. Keep it on SD card. Like noted read OP carefully and last 20 pages of rom thread. Builds newer than MDL are blocked by Att from using Loki and require SafeStrap. Which you don't need to worry about. Although you can read up on it. Good Luck. [emoji1]
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I hope you won't mind me jumping in your thread.,
I've recently had to odin my mdl phone back to stock. I haven't done that in a long time. I have root, and supersu, and busybox. The TWRP Manager app is malfunctioning and I cannot use it to install recovery. They list the crash I am experiencing in the play store as a known problem, and they say it will take time to fix. I have a good loki'd copy of twrp but the stock recovery doesn't want to install it. I even changed the name to "update.zip" and it fails. So my problem is I need a recovery. I am considering installing Clockworkmod's ROM Manager to install their recovery, and then using their recovery to install the good loki'd twrp that I want. Does this sound like a good plan? I have been away from this hobby for a while.

plasticglock said:
I hope you won't mind me jumping in your thread.,
I've recently had to odin my mdl phone back to stock. I haven't done that in a long time. I have root, and supersu, and busybox. The TWRP Manager app is malfunctioning and I cannot use it to install recovery. They list the crash I am experiencing in the play store as a known problem, and they say it will take time to fix. I have a good loki'd copy of twrp but the stock recovery doesn't want to install it. I even changed the name to "update.zip" and it fails. So my problem is I need a recovery. I am considering installing Clockworkmod's ROM Manager to install their recovery, and then using their recovery to install the good loki'd twrp that I want. Does this sound like a good plan? I have been away from this hobby for a while.
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You can flash a recovery zip in a custom recovery. So if you have the loki'd twrp in a zip file, flashing cwm first will work
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jd1639 said:
You can flash a recovery zip in a custom recovery. So if you have the loki'd twrp in a zip file, flashing cwm first will work
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Thanks man, that's exactly what I was planning. I remember avoiding CWM last year due to some issue on this device so I just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to do more harm than good. :good:

plasticglock said:
Thanks man, that's exactly what I was planning. I remember avoiding CWM last year due to some issue on this device so I just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to do more harm than good. :good:
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ROM manager didn't work. It said it installed cwm recovery but it didn't. I was able to install the latest TWRP with this ROM Installer and it worked like a charm! I then installed my custom TWRP from there, rebooted recovery, and installed Danvh's Google edition. I'm setting it up right now. I'm so happy to get my phone back. I just hope the odin flash fixed my problems.
To the OP try ROM installer to get your custom recovery going. Also if you like simple and fast AOSP check out Danvh's google edition rom, but stick to 4.4.4 for now. 5.0 is out but its buggy. Here's a link to the custom version of twrp that I use. https://www.dropbox.com/l/iDQQqlzNbyiFbQrMF4XcRc It's already loki'd so you can flash it if you have any problems with the latest build.

Dusting off the Nexus 7. Where to begin.. Im already on a custom rom and rooted, but.

Hey guys, just pulled my nexus 7 out. I want to update it to the latest, but it's been so long since I've used it, I don't know where to begin. Right now here's what it's running:
Android 4.3
Model ME370T
Build CleanROM 4.0.0
Kernel 3.1.10 leankernel grouper 43-2-0-+
Whatever I do, I don't want to lose root etc. I would like to update it to either the latest kitkat if available or Lollipop. Have all the bugs been worked out for the most part with the lollipop roms on this tablet? I've only briefed the threads so far.
Should I just use Wug's Nexus Rootkit to do everything? I just don't want to lose root. I know with my ATT s4 you can lock the bootloader with the later updates and just dont wanna make a mistake.
Trying to keep the tablet as close to stock look as possible, but some cosmetic changes aren't too big a deal to me. Cleanrom was pretty good, but I'll have to research some of the new ones now.
Thanks!

danman132x said:
Hey guys, just pulled my nexus 7 out. I want to update it to the latest, but it's been so long since I've used it, I don't know where to begin. Right now here's what it's running:
Android 4.3
Model ME370T
Build CleanROM 4.0.0
Kernel 3.1.10 leankernel grouper 43-2-0-+
Whatever I do, I don't want to lose root etc. I would like to update it to either the latest kitkat if available or Lollipop. Have all the bugs been worked out for the most part with the lollipop roms on this tablet? I've only briefed the threads so far.
Should I just use Wug's Nexus Rootkit to do everything? I just don't want to lose root. I know with my ATT s4 you can lock the bootloader with the later updates and just dont wanna make a mistake.
Trying to keep the tablet as close to stock look as possible, but some cosmetic changes aren't too big a deal to me. Cleanrom was pretty good, but I'll have to research some of the new ones now.
Thanks!
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At your state you can't keep root without updating. Best way to upgrade is to get the latest factory image (Lollipop LMY47V) and flash that. After that flash latest trwp and flash supersu zip or flash a rom

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At your state you can't keep root without updating. Best way to upgrade is to get the latest factory image (Lollipop LMY47V) and flash that. After that flash latest trwp and flash supersu zip or flash a rom
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Sounds good, thanks for the guidance. I'll follow that path then