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[Q] Updating via OTA works with TWRP?

I was wondering if it will be safe if you update via OTA with a custom Open script Recovery such has TWRP would be safe, I do not want to get any issues while updating to Android 4.3 when it is available like soft bricking.

andyabc said:
I was wondering if it will be safe if you update via OTA with a custom Open script Recovery such has TWRP would be safe, I do not want to get any issues while updating to Android 4.3 when it is available like soft bricking.
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You have to be stock to get the google updates. No custom recovery at all.

zelendel said:
You have to be stock to get the google updates. No custom recovery at all.
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Have you tested it?, I am not sure if it could be possible since TWRP is OpenScriptRecovery so the system should be able to just get the OTA update to flash like nothing is wrong or anything.
I can restore the stock recovery using the Nexus Toolkit.
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andyabc said:
Have you tested it?, I am not sure if it could be possible since TWRP is OpenScriptRecovery so the system should be able to just get the OTA update to flash like nothing is wrong or anything.
I can restore the stock recovery using the Nexus Toolkit.
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It is well known that it will not work on none official recoveries. It will also not work if you are rooted. There are threads around about this.

zelendel said:
It is well known that it will not work on none official recoveries. It will also not work if you are rooted. There are threads around about this.
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What do you mean that it will not work if your rooted?, will it give you some error or something on the stock recovery?
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andyabc said:
What do you mean that it will not work if your rooted?, will it give you some error or something on the stock recovery?
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Ok it seems it will flash but you will lose root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848

zelendel said:
Ok it seems it will flash but you will lose root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Will OTA Rootkeeper help?, I have that installed just in case there is an update has I am fully aware that the update will replace the system partition.
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andyabc said:
Will OTA Rootkeeper help?, I have that installed just in case there is an update has I am fully aware that the update will replace the system partition.
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To be honest I have no idea as I never do OTA updates. No real point.

zelendel said:
To be honest I have no idea as I never do OTA updates. No real point.
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Ok, I found a really useful thread though: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/282447-install-ota-update-twrp-recovery.html
Looks like that stock recovery is the first thing to do.
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andyabc said:
Ok, I found a really useful thread though: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/282447-install-ota-update-twrp-recovery.html
Looks like that stock recovery is the first thing to do.
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Even though that is for a different device and a completely different OTA set up. Being fully stock is always the best bet. Like I said I never do OTA and on a nexus it is almost completely pointless as the 4.3 update will be available in a flashable zip file with in a matter of hours in not less.

zelendel said:
Even though that is for a different device and a completely different OTA set up. Being fully stock is always the best bet. Like I said I never do OTA and on a nexus it is almost completely pointless as the 4.3 update will be available in a flashable zip file with in a matter of hours in not less.
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So you can just flash the zip 100% on a custom recovery?
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andyabc said:
So you can just flash the zip 100% on a custom recovery?
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Yeah. Once the devs have gotten their hands on it there will be a rooted zip in a matter of hours of release that can be flashed like a normal custom rom

zelendel said:
Yeah. Once the devs have gotten their hands on it there will be a rooted zip in a matter of hours of release that can be flashed like a normal custom rom
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Awesome, I am just going to flash the stock recovery so when the update is available the data will not get wiped.
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If your using twrp v2.5.0.0 when we get the ota update you can use it to update and it will flash it fine it will also detect that you don't have root and will ask you if you want it restored
From my BLACKED OUT N4

spaceman860 said:
If your using twrp v2.5.0.0 when we get the ota update you can use it to update and it will flash it fine it will also detect that you don't have root and will ask you if you want it restored
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So the OTA update would just work?, all well I have the stock recovery flashed at the moment anyway so when the OTA updates stop I will flash the recovery back and then install a custom rom with 4G and USB Host supported also having all the good tweaks like the camera tweak.
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I had CWM on my rooted Nexus 4, and the OTA for android 4.3 came along, and worked fine! Android asked to reboot to install the update, so I agreed, and the reboot loaded CWM which flashed the update. I lost root however, but it was easy to put back.
Has anyone done the OTA to 4.3 while having TWRP recovery? I wonder which of the two recoveries is better at handling OTA updates ... some folks say never attempt OTA with a custom recovery, but CWM has always handled it fine on my Nexus 4 (I've done different over-the-air updates around 3 times now).

sordna said:
Has anyone done the OTA to 4.3 while having TWRP recovery? I wonder which of the two recoveries is better at handling OTA updates ... some folks say never attempt OTA with a custom recovery, but CWM has always handled it fine on my Nexus 4 (I've done different over-the-air updates around 3 times now).
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I am also interested about doing an update to 4.3 with everything stock except for TWRP, and am waiting to hear other people experiences before I try it. I see that the following shows one recommended method (Scenario #2), although I am not sure exactly how to do it. I am curious as to why this is any different than doing it OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2145848

pjc123 said:
I am also interested about doing an update to 4.3 with everything stock except for TWRP, and am waiting to hear other people experiences before I try it. I see that the following shows one recommended method (Scenario #2), although I am not sure exactly how to do it. I am curious as to why this is any different than doing it OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2145848
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From what I am reading now, it's going to work. You will loose root and might loose TWRP, but if you have unlocked bootloader you can flash them both again. I'd say go ahead and let us know if you lost both root and TWRP or just root.

sordna said:
From what I am reading now, it's going to work. You will loose root and might loose TWRP, but if you have unlocked bootloader you can flash them both again. I'd say go ahead and let us know if you lost both root and TWRP or just root.
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Actually, what I am reading now from a lot of people is that it is not necessary to download the file, and just do the OTA, as there is no difference. If I were to lose TWRP it is an easy enough process to get it back. As far as rooting, I am waiting for Koush to upgrade his superuser app, as I switched from SuperSU a while back (Both developers are having a tough time with 4.3). I am also waiting for things to settle down with all the 4.3 bugs and app upgrades. Maybe in a few weeks; there is just way too many issues.

pjc123 said:
Actually, what I am reading now from a lot of people is that it is not necessary to download the file, and just do the OTA, as there is no difference. If I were to lose TWRP it is an easy enough process to get it back. As far as rooting, I am waiting for Koush to upgrade his superuser app, as I switched from SuperSU a while back (Both developers are having a tough time with 4.3). I am also waiting for things to settle down with all the 4.3 bugs and app upgrades. Maybe in a few weeks; there is just way too many issues.
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No need to wait, you can switch back to SuperSU, the latest version (1.51) has been working perfectly with 4.3 for me.
BTW I just installed BootUnlocker for nexus devices, a great app that can lock/unlock your boot loader from within android without wiping your data!

Possible to disable android os autoupdate?

Might be an answered question. Was just wondering if there's anyway to disable the autoupdate. I like my S4 the way it is right now and don't want any chance that it might autoupdate to android 4.3 which can mess up rooting etc even though i have rootkeeper. At least til issues with new android ver are all clear. So anyway to disable this auto os update? thnx..

Your rooted that's enough to disable I believe cus it wont update if modified. .I might be wrong
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And I have never seen my phone's auto update.

w7excursion said:
And I have never seen my phone's auto update.
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Rooted my nexus 10 and that didn't prevent it from dnlding the update. At least it has the decency not to go ahead w installing the downloaded update. Now I hv this constant notification on the status bar to install it. Don't want this to happen also to S4

4.3 is at least 1-2 months away so I doubt you need to do this. And got a blunt is mostly right. Being rooted will not allow the installation to happen. It will download the update and tell you have a system update but it won't install on its own.
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daniel4653 said:
4.3 is at least 1-2 months away so I doubt you need to do this. And got a blunt is mostly right. Being rooted will not allow the installation to happen. It will download the update and tell you have a system update but it won't install on its own.
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So any danger of me inadvertently clicking on the update notification and update happens and wiping out my settings? or rooting won't let it updated at all and to update you have to go back to stock first?

wildpig1234 said:
So any danger of me inadvertently clicking on the update notification and update happens and wiping out my settings? or rooting won't let it updated at all and to update you have to go back to stock first?
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The only way of being able to update its just having a rooted phone with no mods in someway and also having stock recovery, if you are rooted with a custom rom or mods and have a different recovery then yes if you click the update accidently then you wont have no problem what so ever its just going to abort.
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ROMANTiC KiD said:
The only way of being able to update its just having a rooted phone with no mods in someway and also having stock recovery, if you are rooted with a custom rom or mods and have a different recovery then yes if you click the update accidently then you wont have no problem what so ever its just going to abort.
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On my rooted S4 (CF-auto-root), I also have TWRP recovery installed. So this would qualify then as a different recovery? Additionally i also got MF9HotspotMod-Odexed and international SIM unlock on there. So i am guessing all this should be enough to prevent any update?

OTAs won't flash in custom recoveries. If you for some reason hit install update it would boot into recovery and try to install but fail.
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My Sprint Moto X just got 4.4 KitKat

Not sure how many other people are getting this update. But I just got Android 4.4 KitKat on my Moto X.
Its downloading right now and should be installed in the next few minutes.
Odd Note:
I got another (very small) update before the kitkat update came.
This small update failed, so when I went to go retry it instead of saying the the other update it said that KitKat 4.4 was ready to download. :victory:

dapezboy said:
Not sure how many other people are getting this update. But I just got Android 4.4 KitKat on my Moto X.
Its downloading right now and should be installed in the next few minutes.
Odd Note:
I got another (very small) update before the kitkat update came.
This small update failed, so when I went to go retry it instead of saying the the other update it said that KitKat 4.4 was ready to download. :victory:
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And the second one worked no problem? I thought it failed by me because of root, are you rooted?
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shaya4207 said:
And the second one worked no problem? I thought it failed by me because of root, are you rooted?
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So, 4.4 failed too. Perhaps because of my bootloader unlock? I'm not rooted.
Anyone have any guides to revert to full stock?

Got the 4.4 update today. Didn't notice a intermediate update though. - stock - locked BL.

The update started last week, and the stock firmware is posted in a thread with instructions
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I'm stock and not unlocked. Update came through attempted to install and it says something to the effect of no recovery. Sprint now has my phone to see if they can fix it.
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Finally got KitKat here as well. Little disappointed about the dialer lacking nearby searching.
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Lose Root
Will I lose root if I update?

Just activated a Moto X today and got OTA right away.

robbi24r said:
Will I lose root if I update?
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need to flash to stock then take the OTA or you'll see endless reboot loop.

[Q]Anyone update VZW LG g2?

I'm rooted and was wondering if the new
VS98012B update was worth it and plus if it would get my phone to boot loop by getting this update since I'm rooted.
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I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.

EnsoniqHT said:
I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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So you just updated like that without your phone bootlooping or any malfunction?
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It will fully update wiped. Like an out of the box device.

Steamer86 said:
It will fully update wiped. Like an out of the box device.
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What do you mean?
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wadamean said:
What do you mean?
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I was rooted - stock recovery took the B OTA and didn't loose root mine also didn't wipe. Ive checked and my Verizon g2 does indeed say it has the new B update on it.

12b and no custom recovery
if you are still on 11a, use ioroot to root your phone and then install a recovery afterwards.
if you update to 12b you can still root it, but for now you wont get a custom recovery to install.
that should change today or shortly i would guess, but if your gonna flash roms your better off doing it now in 11a and skipping 12b.
just a heads up and info share. enjoy

EnsoniqHT said:
I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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Are their instructions on how to do this? I'm rooted and the update just keeps failing. Also, I have read that VooDoo does allow you to keep root.

Ferret1978 said:
I was rooted - stock recovery took the B OTA and didn't loose root mine also didn't wipe. Ive checked and my Verizon g2 does indeed say it has the new B update on it.
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So your phone didn't get into any sort of boot loop or anything?
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Ferret1978 said:
I was rooted - stock recovery took the B OTA and didn't loose root mine also didn't wipe. Ive checked and my Verizon g2 does indeed say it has the new B update on it.
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Oh you had stock recovery? I have cwm
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wyrdtrtle said:
if you are still on 11a, use ioroot to root your phone and then install a recovery afterwards.
if you update to 12b you can still root it, but for now you wont get a custom recovery to install.
that should change today or shortly i would guess, but if your gonna flash roms your better off doing it now in 11a and skipping 12b.
just a heads up and info share. enjoy
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Well I don't flash roms at all. I just have my phone rooted to hack the games and get unlimited money. But I do have cwm and if I were to get the update I don't want to risk it getting my phone into any sort of glitch or boot loop
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new update didnt mess with root?
EnsoniqHT said:
I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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I've been wondering if i should accept the new update, thought i heard somewhere that it included a patch to relock the bootloader or something, & I'm planning on rooting mine (vs98011a). Sounds like its a worthwhile upgrade tho..my screen gets just a tiny bit glitchy sometimes. Guess I'll go ahead & take it then, thanx for the heads up. As long as i can root it still after I'm good...?

Boatloader had always been locked. There is just currently no working recovery/loki with the current update. If you plan on flashing/heavy modding, don't take it. You can still root.
Edit: Apparently, Freegee now works to flash recovery on 12B.

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Boatloader had always been locked. There is just currently no working recovery/loki with the current update. If you plan on flashing/heavy modding, don't take it. You can still root.
Edit: Apparently, Freegee now works to flash recovery on 12B.
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10-4, well thanx for the heads up bro. I ended taking the update & I'm glad i did cuz it fixed the screen glitch. I'm gonna root as soon as i can get to a decent computer. Idk anything about freegee....I'll have to look into it. Well hey, i appreciate the info man looks like i have some research to keep me busy for a min. Thanx again! Btw...I'm lovin this phone, its a totally underestimated beast. Any tips on a good rom aosp/stock would both be good to know about. Heard OSE had one for this phone maybe & i loved ose on my s3.

Successful 4.4 Update?

My AT&T LG G2 is rooted and has the stock recovery and stock ROM and I don't have Xposed installed. I'm curious if anybody else with the same setup has updated to 4.4 successfully with no brick. Thanks in advance for sharing.

My phone gives me "phone suspected in rooting, update not available for rooted devices" I'm also rooted on stock recovery and rom
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Did AT&T released kitkat?

dirty2k9 said:
My AT&T LG G2 is rooted and has the stock recovery and stock ROM and I don't have Xposed installed. I'm curious if anybody else with the same setup has updated to 4.4 successfully with no brick. Thanks in advance for sharing.
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Unfortunately you can't get ota updates anymore unless you restore to stock. The drawbacks of rooting.

brichanna said:
Its not a big deal my friend just turn on your software update option.
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I wonder if Voodoo will help. I might give it a shot later.
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Edit: Voodoo does nothing. I got the "Can not update because phone is rooted error".

dirty2k9 said:
My AT&T LG G2 is rooted and has the stock recovery and stock ROM and I don't have Xposed installed. I'm curious if anybody else with the same setup has updated to 4.4 successfully with no brick. Thanks in advance for sharing.
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Exact same setup and received no problems and still rooted. Had to uninstall Xposed and all modules beforehand.
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dirty2k9 said:
My AT&T LG G2 is rooted and has the stock recovery and stock ROM and I don't have Xposed installed. I'm curious if anybody else with the same setup has updated to 4.4 successfully with no brick. Thanks in advance for sharing.
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same setup (Just root and everything else is stock), All apps (including AT&T) were on the phone still got the same message ROOT so no updated for you.. I just went back to stock Using Flash Tool method.. It says you're phone is upto date.
current SW version after (Flashing) is D80010o Buils JDQ39B.
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Exact same setup and received no problems and still rooted. Had to uninstall Xposed and all modules beforehand.
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I'm not sure how it worked for you... Lucky I guess.

Same setup. What if i factory reset from stock recovery? Will it fix the error?
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fernandodx15 said:
Same setup. What if i factory reset from stock recovery? Will it fix the error?
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No It will NOT WORK. I just Flashed back to stock (Flashing Tool.. I know its a Pain and loose all your data) , Chat with AT&T to push 10q and KITKAT (if youre lucky, and if you Don't need root for time being and can wait for someone to make Kitkat root).
Or someone in another thread says.. Once you're on 10q , Root it and update to kitkat manual way and Root sticks. (but your mileage varies)
for me.. I got a great Rep on At&t side.. who pushed the 10q and waited till I updated and then Pushed the Kitkat.. Almost half hour + still this was her last statement on chat. sometimes at&T amazes me.
"At&t Rep: You too Thank you! It has been great chatting with you, you're awesome MYNAME HERE. I truly wish you the best and you have a fantastic rest of your day "

dirty2k9 said:
My AT&T LG G2 is rooted and has the stock recovery and stock ROM and I don't have Xposed installed. I'm curious if anybody else with the same setup has updated to 4.4 successfully with no brick. Thanks in advance for sharing.
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Hi,
Hi have d802 and i'm working without problems on droid kang 4.4.2

streetsmart999 said:
No It will NOT WORK. I just Flashed back to stock (Flashing Tool.. I know its a Pain and loose all your data) , Chat with AT&T to push 10q and KITKAT (if youre lucky, and if you Don't need root for time being and can wait for someone to make Kitkat root).
Or someone in another thread says.. Once you're on 10q , Root it and update to kitkat manual way and Root sticks. (but your mileage varies)
for me.. I got a great Rep on At&t side.. who pushed the 10q and waited till I updated and then Pushed the Kitkat.. Almost half hour + still this was her last statement on chat. sometimes at&T amazes me.
"At&t Rep: You too Thank you! It has been great chatting with you, you're awesome MYNAME HERE. I truly wish you the best and you have a fantastic rest of your day "
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What did you tell her your problem was? Im stuck in the same boat, i just did a factory reset and still can't because it suspects me of rooting. I dont want to tell them that lol. And you're talking about the chat on ATTs website?

ncfastls1 said:
What did you tell her your problem was? Im stuck in the same boat, i just did a factory reset and still can't because it suspects me of rooting. I dont want to tell them that lol. And you're talking about the chat on ATTs website?
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Restore to the stock image using the LG flash tool (removes root). Then go online and get them to push the updates. Did it earlier today. There's a video on youtube from rootjunky that will walk you through the restore.

Have to update to Q root then get them to push C (KitKat) I went back to stock rooted that's what I did now I'm on KitKat with root no problem
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yes.. Same as the above guys mentioned. Also PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU WILL LOOSE EVERYTHING on your phone. make backup of your photos, contacts, SMS, Calllogs etc etc.