I was wondering if it will be safe if you update via OTA with a custom Open script Recovery such has TWRP would be safe, I do not want to get any issues while updating to Android 4.3 when it is available like soft bricking.
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I was wondering if it will be safe if you update via OTA with a custom Open script Recovery such has TWRP would be safe, I do not want to get any issues while updating to Android 4.3 when it is available like soft bricking.
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You have to be stock to get the google updates. No custom recovery at all.
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You have to be stock to get the google updates. No custom recovery at all.
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Have you tested it?, I am not sure if it could be possible since TWRP is OpenScriptRecovery so the system should be able to just get the OTA update to flash like nothing is wrong or anything.
I can restore the stock recovery using the Nexus Toolkit.
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Have you tested it?, I am not sure if it could be possible since TWRP is OpenScriptRecovery so the system should be able to just get the OTA update to flash like nothing is wrong or anything.
I can restore the stock recovery using the Nexus Toolkit.
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It is well known that it will not work on none official recoveries. It will also not work if you are rooted. There are threads around about this.
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It is well known that it will not work on none official recoveries. It will also not work if you are rooted. There are threads around about this.
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What do you mean that it will not work if your rooted?, will it give you some error or something on the stock recovery?
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What do you mean that it will not work if your rooted?, will it give you some error or something on the stock recovery?
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Ok it seems it will flash but you will lose root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Ok it seems it will flash but you will lose root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Will OTA Rootkeeper help?, I have that installed just in case there is an update has I am fully aware that the update will replace the system partition.
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Will OTA Rootkeeper help?, I have that installed just in case there is an update has I am fully aware that the update will replace the system partition.
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To be honest I have no idea as I never do OTA updates. No real point.
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To be honest I have no idea as I never do OTA updates. No real point.
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Ok, I found a really useful thread though: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/282447-install-ota-update-twrp-recovery.html
Looks like that stock recovery is the first thing to do.
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andyabc said:
Ok, I found a really useful thread though: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/282447-install-ota-update-twrp-recovery.html
Looks like that stock recovery is the first thing to do.
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Even though that is for a different device and a completely different OTA set up. Being fully stock is always the best bet. Like I said I never do OTA and on a nexus it is almost completely pointless as the 4.3 update will be available in a flashable zip file with in a matter of hours in not less.
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Even though that is for a different device and a completely different OTA set up. Being fully stock is always the best bet. Like I said I never do OTA and on a nexus it is almost completely pointless as the 4.3 update will be available in a flashable zip file with in a matter of hours in not less.
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So you can just flash the zip 100% on a custom recovery?
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So you can just flash the zip 100% on a custom recovery?
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Yeah. Once the devs have gotten their hands on it there will be a rooted zip in a matter of hours of release that can be flashed like a normal custom rom
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Yeah. Once the devs have gotten their hands on it there will be a rooted zip in a matter of hours of release that can be flashed like a normal custom rom
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Awesome, I am just going to flash the stock recovery so when the update is available the data will not get wiped.
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If your using twrp v2.5.0.0 when we get the ota update you can use it to update and it will flash it fine it will also detect that you don't have root and will ask you if you want it restored
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If your using twrp v2.5.0.0 when we get the ota update you can use it to update and it will flash it fine it will also detect that you don't have root and will ask you if you want it restored
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So the OTA update would just work?, all well I have the stock recovery flashed at the moment anyway so when the OTA updates stop I will flash the recovery back and then install a custom rom with 4G and USB Host supported also having all the good tweaks like the camera tweak.
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I had CWM on my rooted Nexus 4, and the OTA for android 4.3 came along, and worked fine! Android asked to reboot to install the update, so I agreed, and the reboot loaded CWM which flashed the update. I lost root however, but it was easy to put back.
Has anyone done the OTA to 4.3 while having TWRP recovery? I wonder which of the two recoveries is better at handling OTA updates ... some folks say never attempt OTA with a custom recovery, but CWM has always handled it fine on my Nexus 4 (I've done different over-the-air updates around 3 times now).
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Has anyone done the OTA to 4.3 while having TWRP recovery? I wonder which of the two recoveries is better at handling OTA updates ... some folks say never attempt OTA with a custom recovery, but CWM has always handled it fine on my Nexus 4 (I've done different over-the-air updates around 3 times now).
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I am also interested about doing an update to 4.3 with everything stock except for TWRP, and am waiting to hear other people experiences before I try it. I see that the following shows one recommended method (Scenario #2), although I am not sure exactly how to do it. I am curious as to why this is any different than doing it OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2145848
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I am also interested about doing an update to 4.3 with everything stock except for TWRP, and am waiting to hear other people experiences before I try it. I see that the following shows one recommended method (Scenario #2), although I am not sure exactly how to do it. I am curious as to why this is any different than doing it OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2145848
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From what I am reading now, it's going to work. You will loose root and might loose TWRP, but if you have unlocked bootloader you can flash them both again. I'd say go ahead and let us know if you lost both root and TWRP or just root.
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From what I am reading now, it's going to work. You will loose root and might loose TWRP, but if you have unlocked bootloader you can flash them both again. I'd say go ahead and let us know if you lost both root and TWRP or just root.
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Actually, what I am reading now from a lot of people is that it is not necessary to download the file, and just do the OTA, as there is no difference. If I were to lose TWRP it is an easy enough process to get it back. As far as rooting, I am waiting for Koush to upgrade his superuser app, as I switched from SuperSU a while back (Both developers are having a tough time with 4.3). I am also waiting for things to settle down with all the 4.3 bugs and app upgrades. Maybe in a few weeks; there is just way too many issues.
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Actually, what I am reading now from a lot of people is that it is not necessary to download the file, and just do the OTA, as there is no difference. If I were to lose TWRP it is an easy enough process to get it back. As far as rooting, I am waiting for Koush to upgrade his superuser app, as I switched from SuperSU a while back (Both developers are having a tough time with 4.3). I am also waiting for things to settle down with all the 4.3 bugs and app upgrades. Maybe in a few weeks; there is just way too many issues.
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No need to wait, you can switch back to SuperSU, the latest version (1.51) has been working perfectly with 4.3 for me.
BTW I just installed BootUnlocker for nexus devices, a great app that can lock/unlock your boot loader from within android without wiping your data!
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Hello,
Being new to the Nexus series I am curious to know how things work with OTA. I never got those one that SGSII. So I've looked through a few threads and I do not see a clear answer to the question of "do you lose root after OTA update? Assuming your stock rooted nothing else changed. No custom recovery. If you do lose root. How do you get it back? Can you just use one of the toolkits to fix it? Do you have to wait until the devs figure out HOW to root this particular version again? Again someone without a custom recovery just a stock rooted phone. Thanks for your help. I'm just debating in staying stock without a recovery. I tried several roms and now I'm back to stock and I kinda like it....
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Hello,
Being new to the Nexus series I am curious to know how things work with OTA. I never got those one that SGSII. So I've looked through a few threads and I do not see a clear answer to the question of "do you lose root after OTA update? Assuming your stock rooted nothing else changed. No custom recovery. If you do lose root. How do you get it back? Can you just use one of the toolkits to fix it? Do you have to wait until the devs figure out HOW to root this particular version again? Again someone without a custom recovery just a stock rooted phone. Thanks for your help. I'm just debating in staying stock without a recovery. I tried several roms and now I'm back to stock and I kinda like it....
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If you have stock and a custom recovery then your custom recovery might be able to keep root for you. Alternatively you could try OTA rootkeeper but that is not guaranteed to work. I was rooted stock with a custom recovery when I received the 4.2.2 update and it installed fine through my recovery but after that I lost root and my custom recovery.
You can use voodo root keeper from play store, it saves root and can be restored after update. It has worked every time I have used it :thumbup:
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You can use voodo root keeper from play store, it saves root and can be restored after update. It has worked every time I have used it :thumbup:
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Great! That seems easy lol. I guess that works across multiple Android versions?
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It has worked on my nexus7 from version 4.1 to 4.2.2 and on my n4 I've used it for 4.2, 4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Just remember to save root/ unroot before update and restore after you receive ota. Hopefully it will work for keylime but only time will tell.
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Hello! It is possible to update from 4.2.2 to 4.3 if you are using CM10.1 for example, right? But why do so many people want to update through fastboot when there is a recovery flashable zip?
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i didnt go through all the hastle.. i dirty flashed(flashed in recovery without wiping anything) aosp 4.3 over rasbean jelly rom 4.2.2, without a single issue. didnt have to wipe, didnt have to re set everything up. it took just about 3-4 minutes to go from 4.2.2 to 4.3. but, id make a nandroid backup just in case things do go wrong.
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i didnt go through all the hastle.. i dirty flashed(flashed in recovery without wiping anything) aosp 4.3 over rasbean jelly rom 4.2.2, without a single issue. didnt have to wipe, didnt have to re set everything up. it took just about 3-4 minutes to go from 4.2.2 to 4.3. but, id make a nandroid backup just in case things do go wrong.
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Yeah I indeed thought that was possible, but why do so many people struggle and really want to flash through fastboot?
But I'm glad to know you can just update in recovery, so I will do that with the next update as well.
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Yeah I indeed thought that was possible, but why do so many people struggle and really want to flash through fastboot?
But I'm glad to know you can just update in recovery, so I will do that with the next update as well.
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too many people just dont know, they do what they are told. anyways, flashing the factory img in fastboot is probably the "cleanest" way to update. but as you can see, all these people that are doing it, and still reporting many issues. im completely issue free here, and havent lost any of my previous data
I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Yes
Note that you want to keep your device as close to stock as possible if you want to install the OTAs. Rooting is no issue but you will encounter errors if you flash custom radios for example.
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I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Yes, and no if you're like me, I flash custom kernel, digs out nearly 50% of the system app replacing them with something to greenify them.
briand.mooreg said:
I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Not sure if this is your first android phone but its generally the same with all of them. If you root and alter files that the update checks for it will not update. Although there is not a big deal to update then flash the updated rom. Not sure why so many people worry about updates when a custom rom update will show up.
You also can get an app call otarootkeeper and lastly google is full of methods to achieve your goal its always good to google prior to posting a question... Never know what you may find
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Not sure if this is your first android phone but its generally the same with all of them. If you root and alter files that the update checks for it will not update. Although there is not a big deal to update then flash the updated rom. Not sure why so many people worry about updates when a custom rom update will show up.
You also can get an app call otarootkeeper and lastly google is full of methods to achieve your goal its always good to google prior to posting a question... Never know what you may find
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OTA RootKeeper no longer works as of 4.3. The way to get root back now is by installing SuperSU through recovery.
Acuity said:
OTA RootKeeper no longer works as of 4.3. The way to get root back now is by installing SuperSU through recovery.
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Yea but flashing Su would mean installing a custom recovery. He is trying to stay stock
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playya said:
Yea but flashing Su would mean installing a custom recovery. He is trying to stay stock
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You can revert back to stock recovery by downloading the factory image and flashing recovery.img buried deep within it:
fastboot flash recovery C:/recovery.img
OTA RootKeeper has served its purpose, and had done so for a long time; however, it is currently no longer functional.
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You can revert back to stock recovery by downloading the factory image and flashing recovery.img buried deep within it:
fastboot flash recovery C:/recovery.img
OTA RootKeeper has served its purpose, and had done so for a long time; however, it is currently no longer functional.
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I agree with you but saying a person that wants stock normally is trying to do as little as possible to their phone. Flashing a recovery via fastboot may not be an option. If thats the case you can simply just flash the stock recovery via zipfile and use SuperSu and it has an uninstall root function
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I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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I did just that.. When I bought my phone it had 4.2.2. Flashed a custom recovery, then rooted it as well.. When 4.3 OTA was out, mine also downloaded it.. I unrooted my phone using the unroot option in SuperSu and flashed stock recovery back and installed OTA just like a layman would, and , well, 4.3..
Later I read in this forum that few ppl who had custom recovery also were able to update normally to 4.3 through OTA.. But I didn't do that , so I can't give my word on that.
In case you don't get the ota or if it is unsuccessful, you can always do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
Happy rooting !
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Might be an answered question. Was just wondering if there's anyway to disable the autoupdate. I like my S4 the way it is right now and don't want any chance that it might autoupdate to android 4.3 which can mess up rooting etc even though i have rootkeeper. At least til issues with new android ver are all clear. So anyway to disable this auto os update? thnx..
Your rooted that's enough to disable I believe cus it wont update if modified. .I might be wrong
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And I have never seen my phone's auto update.
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And I have never seen my phone's auto update.
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Rooted my nexus 10 and that didn't prevent it from dnlding the update. At least it has the decency not to go ahead w installing the downloaded update. Now I hv this constant notification on the status bar to install it. Don't want this to happen also to S4
4.3 is at least 1-2 months away so I doubt you need to do this. And got a blunt is mostly right. Being rooted will not allow the installation to happen. It will download the update and tell you have a system update but it won't install on its own.
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4.3 is at least 1-2 months away so I doubt you need to do this. And got a blunt is mostly right. Being rooted will not allow the installation to happen. It will download the update and tell you have a system update but it won't install on its own.
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So any danger of me inadvertently clicking on the update notification and update happens and wiping out my settings? or rooting won't let it updated at all and to update you have to go back to stock first?
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So any danger of me inadvertently clicking on the update notification and update happens and wiping out my settings? or rooting won't let it updated at all and to update you have to go back to stock first?
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The only way of being able to update its just having a rooted phone with no mods in someway and also having stock recovery, if you are rooted with a custom rom or mods and have a different recovery then yes if you click the update accidently then you wont have no problem what so ever its just going to abort.
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The only way of being able to update its just having a rooted phone with no mods in someway and also having stock recovery, if you are rooted with a custom rom or mods and have a different recovery then yes if you click the update accidently then you wont have no problem what so ever its just going to abort.
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On my rooted S4 (CF-auto-root), I also have TWRP recovery installed. So this would qualify then as a different recovery? Additionally i also got MF9HotspotMod-Odexed and international SIM unlock on there. So i am guessing all this should be enough to prevent any update?
OTAs won't flash in custom recoveries. If you for some reason hit install update it would boot into recovery and try to install but fail.
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I'm rooted and was wondering if the new
VS98012B update was worth it and plus if it would get my phone to boot loop by getting this update since I'm rooted.
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I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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So you just updated like that without your phone bootlooping or any malfunction?
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It will fully update wiped. Like an out of the box device.
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It will fully update wiped. Like an out of the box device.
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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I was rooted - stock recovery took the B OTA and didn't loose root mine also didn't wipe. Ive checked and my Verizon g2 does indeed say it has the new B update on it.
12b and no custom recovery
if you are still on 11a, use ioroot to root your phone and then install a recovery afterwards.
if you update to 12b you can still root it, but for now you wont get a custom recovery to install.
that should change today or shortly i would guess, but if your gonna flash roms your better off doing it now in 11a and skipping 12b.
just a heads up and info share. enjoy
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I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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Are their instructions on how to do this? I'm rooted and the update just keeps failing. Also, I have read that VooDoo does allow you to keep root.
Ferret1978 said:
I was rooted - stock recovery took the B OTA and didn't loose root mine also didn't wipe. Ive checked and my Verizon g2 does indeed say it has the new B update on it.
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So your phone didn't get into any sort of boot loop or anything?
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Ferret1978 said:
I was rooted - stock recovery took the B OTA and didn't loose root mine also didn't wipe. Ive checked and my Verizon g2 does indeed say it has the new B update on it.
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Oh you had stock recovery? I have cwm
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if you are still on 11a, use ioroot to root your phone and then install a recovery afterwards.
if you update to 12b you can still root it, but for now you wont get a custom recovery to install.
that should change today or shortly i would guess, but if your gonna flash roms your better off doing it now in 11a and skipping 12b.
just a heads up and info share. enjoy
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Well I don't flash roms at all. I just have my phone rooted to hack the games and get unlimited money. But I do have cwm and if I were to get the update I don't want to risk it getting my phone into any sort of glitch or boot loop
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new update didnt mess with root?
EnsoniqHT said:
I used the LG Mobile Support tool while rooted because the update failed otherwise. After getting the update I no longer have root. I'm happy with this update, it added a few small things and corrected an issue with the touch screen behaving erratically. I haven't tried to re-root it and I haven't bothered with any custom recoveries since this update.
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I've been wondering if i should accept the new update, thought i heard somewhere that it included a patch to relock the bootloader or something, & I'm planning on rooting mine (vs98011a). Sounds like its a worthwhile upgrade tho..my screen gets just a tiny bit glitchy sometimes. Guess I'll go ahead & take it then, thanx for the heads up. As long as i can root it still after I'm good...?
Boatloader had always been locked. There is just currently no working recovery/loki with the current update. If you plan on flashing/heavy modding, don't take it. You can still root.
Edit: Apparently, Freegee now works to flash recovery on 12B.
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Steamer86 said:
Boatloader had always been locked. There is just currently no working recovery/loki with the current update. If you plan on flashing/heavy modding, don't take it. You can still root.
Edit: Apparently, Freegee now works to flash recovery on 12B.
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10-4, well thanx for the heads up bro. I ended taking the update & I'm glad i did cuz it fixed the screen glitch. I'm gonna root as soon as i can get to a decent computer. Idk anything about freegee....I'll have to look into it. Well hey, i appreciate the info man looks like i have some research to keep me busy for a min. Thanx again! Btw...I'm lovin this phone, its a totally underestimated beast. Any tips on a good rom aosp/stock would both be good to know about. Heard OSE had one for this phone maybe & i loved ose on my s3.