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Okey so yesterday I couldn't wait anymore and wanted to update my Nexus 7 to 4.2 but couldn't.
After restarting it did initiate the update but right after it gave me a red triangle with a (!)
And now I can't see any updates anymore. I yet I'm on 4.1.2 still
Dang it..
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Download the 4.2 factory images from google and flash via fastboot.
Consider yourself lucky and stay with 4.1.2
I have the same problem as well. When I first tried to get the update, the Android had a red ! And failed the update. Now, it says no update available....
I'm not sure if I should wait until a more stable version is out, however.
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Meh rootbrain is right. Jag ive been reading upp on 4.2 and i better stay on 4.1.2
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It's all subjective. Some like it, while others don't. Neither opinion is the end all, be all gospel truth.
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Consider yourself lucky and stay with 4.1.2
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Aren't there enough 4.2 bashing threads that you feel the need to take this one off-topic?
The OP asked for help not for your opinion.
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Clean ROM 3.0 - Leankernel 0.8.x
Any help would be appreciated...I want to have the latest update, not be stuck...
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Any help would be appreciated...I want to have the latest update, not be stuck...
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Have you modified, frozen, or deleted any of the stock system files? The update checks for approximately 200 files and if any aren't stock, will fail. Your best bet, as someone else said, is going to be to fastboot flashing the stock image. Be forewarned that you'd be essentially starting from scratch as it would wipe your tablet, but I'd personally find that preferable since you'd be circumventing some of the issues that are irking the most vocal of 4.2's critics.
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I actually just purchased the tablet, and out of the box the first thing I tried to do was update, and it failed.
I'm not very knowlegable about flashing the factory image myself, but I've heard about updating using a "toolkit"? Is this easier?
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yanksrock1000 said:
I actually just purchased the tablet, and out of the box the first thing I tried to do was update, and it failed.
I'm not very knowlegable about flashing the factory image myself, but I've heard about updating using a "toolkit"? Is this easier?
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Yup, easier. But using a command line and the android SDK/fastboot isn't all that hard... maybe your issue is just the universes way of saying you should go learn a new trick. :cyclops:
However I doubt the universe will waste any energy punishing you if you choose to go the easy route. Plus, you can always read the thorough directions for both routes and make an educated decision before you get your hands even the least bit dirty.
using Fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Wugs Windows toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
najaboy said:
Have you modified, frozen, or deleted any of the stock system files? The update checks for approximately 200 files and if any aren't stock, will fail. Your best bet, as someone else said, is going to be to fastboot flashing the stock image.
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i have the same issue, but i dont want to fastboot it, what should i do? i havent rooted or anything yet. i have a 32gb no 3g version...
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i have the same issue, but i dont want to fastboot it, what should i do? i havent rooted or anything yet. i have a 32gb no 3g version...
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Why not, it's a safe operation.
If you're completely stock, and update fails, either try again (and again, and again), or send it to repair (slowest). Or fastboot (fastest).
issak42 said:
Why not, it's a safe operation.
If you're completely stock, and update fails, either try again (and again, and again), or send it to repair (slowest). Or fastboot (fastest).
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well, in that case, id rather root it and flash a custom rom, and thats probably what i am gonna end up doing... ill see, thanks for the answer
I was wondering if it will be safe if you update via OTA with a custom Open script Recovery such has TWRP would be safe, I do not want to get any issues while updating to Android 4.3 when it is available like soft bricking.
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I was wondering if it will be safe if you update via OTA with a custom Open script Recovery such has TWRP would be safe, I do not want to get any issues while updating to Android 4.3 when it is available like soft bricking.
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You have to be stock to get the google updates. No custom recovery at all.
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You have to be stock to get the google updates. No custom recovery at all.
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Have you tested it?, I am not sure if it could be possible since TWRP is OpenScriptRecovery so the system should be able to just get the OTA update to flash like nothing is wrong or anything.
I can restore the stock recovery using the Nexus Toolkit.
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Have you tested it?, I am not sure if it could be possible since TWRP is OpenScriptRecovery so the system should be able to just get the OTA update to flash like nothing is wrong or anything.
I can restore the stock recovery using the Nexus Toolkit.
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It is well known that it will not work on none official recoveries. It will also not work if you are rooted. There are threads around about this.
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It is well known that it will not work on none official recoveries. It will also not work if you are rooted. There are threads around about this.
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What do you mean that it will not work if your rooted?, will it give you some error or something on the stock recovery?
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andyabc said:
What do you mean that it will not work if your rooted?, will it give you some error or something on the stock recovery?
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Ok it seems it will flash but you will lose root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Ok it seems it will flash but you will lose root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Will OTA Rootkeeper help?, I have that installed just in case there is an update has I am fully aware that the update will replace the system partition.
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Will OTA Rootkeeper help?, I have that installed just in case there is an update has I am fully aware that the update will replace the system partition.
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To be honest I have no idea as I never do OTA updates. No real point.
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To be honest I have no idea as I never do OTA updates. No real point.
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Ok, I found a really useful thread though: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/282447-install-ota-update-twrp-recovery.html
Looks like that stock recovery is the first thing to do.
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andyabc said:
Ok, I found a really useful thread though: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/282447-install-ota-update-twrp-recovery.html
Looks like that stock recovery is the first thing to do.
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Even though that is for a different device and a completely different OTA set up. Being fully stock is always the best bet. Like I said I never do OTA and on a nexus it is almost completely pointless as the 4.3 update will be available in a flashable zip file with in a matter of hours in not less.
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Even though that is for a different device and a completely different OTA set up. Being fully stock is always the best bet. Like I said I never do OTA and on a nexus it is almost completely pointless as the 4.3 update will be available in a flashable zip file with in a matter of hours in not less.
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So you can just flash the zip 100% on a custom recovery?
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So you can just flash the zip 100% on a custom recovery?
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Yeah. Once the devs have gotten their hands on it there will be a rooted zip in a matter of hours of release that can be flashed like a normal custom rom
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Yeah. Once the devs have gotten their hands on it there will be a rooted zip in a matter of hours of release that can be flashed like a normal custom rom
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Awesome, I am just going to flash the stock recovery so when the update is available the data will not get wiped.
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If your using twrp v2.5.0.0 when we get the ota update you can use it to update and it will flash it fine it will also detect that you don't have root and will ask you if you want it restored
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If your using twrp v2.5.0.0 when we get the ota update you can use it to update and it will flash it fine it will also detect that you don't have root and will ask you if you want it restored
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So the OTA update would just work?, all well I have the stock recovery flashed at the moment anyway so when the OTA updates stop I will flash the recovery back and then install a custom rom with 4G and USB Host supported also having all the good tweaks like the camera tweak.
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I had CWM on my rooted Nexus 4, and the OTA for android 4.3 came along, and worked fine! Android asked to reboot to install the update, so I agreed, and the reboot loaded CWM which flashed the update. I lost root however, but it was easy to put back.
Has anyone done the OTA to 4.3 while having TWRP recovery? I wonder which of the two recoveries is better at handling OTA updates ... some folks say never attempt OTA with a custom recovery, but CWM has always handled it fine on my Nexus 4 (I've done different over-the-air updates around 3 times now).
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Has anyone done the OTA to 4.3 while having TWRP recovery? I wonder which of the two recoveries is better at handling OTA updates ... some folks say never attempt OTA with a custom recovery, but CWM has always handled it fine on my Nexus 4 (I've done different over-the-air updates around 3 times now).
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I am also interested about doing an update to 4.3 with everything stock except for TWRP, and am waiting to hear other people experiences before I try it. I see that the following shows one recommended method (Scenario #2), although I am not sure exactly how to do it. I am curious as to why this is any different than doing it OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2145848
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I am also interested about doing an update to 4.3 with everything stock except for TWRP, and am waiting to hear other people experiences before I try it. I see that the following shows one recommended method (Scenario #2), although I am not sure exactly how to do it. I am curious as to why this is any different than doing it OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2145848
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From what I am reading now, it's going to work. You will loose root and might loose TWRP, but if you have unlocked bootloader you can flash them both again. I'd say go ahead and let us know if you lost both root and TWRP or just root.
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From what I am reading now, it's going to work. You will loose root and might loose TWRP, but if you have unlocked bootloader you can flash them both again. I'd say go ahead and let us know if you lost both root and TWRP or just root.
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Actually, what I am reading now from a lot of people is that it is not necessary to download the file, and just do the OTA, as there is no difference. If I were to lose TWRP it is an easy enough process to get it back. As far as rooting, I am waiting for Koush to upgrade his superuser app, as I switched from SuperSU a while back (Both developers are having a tough time with 4.3). I am also waiting for things to settle down with all the 4.3 bugs and app upgrades. Maybe in a few weeks; there is just way too many issues.
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Actually, what I am reading now from a lot of people is that it is not necessary to download the file, and just do the OTA, as there is no difference. If I were to lose TWRP it is an easy enough process to get it back. As far as rooting, I am waiting for Koush to upgrade his superuser app, as I switched from SuperSU a while back (Both developers are having a tough time with 4.3). I am also waiting for things to settle down with all the 4.3 bugs and app upgrades. Maybe in a few weeks; there is just way too many issues.
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No need to wait, you can switch back to SuperSU, the latest version (1.51) has been working perfectly with 4.3 for me.
BTW I just installed BootUnlocker for nexus devices, a great app that can lock/unlock your boot loader from within android without wiping your data!
So last night I decided (against my better judgment) to install TWRP recovery and flash the OTA. I did it, then had trouble rooting it. I decided to just say screw it and then restore my Nandroid backup (which I made like a good boy). Then I got a failed message on the restore. Booted back up to a fresh boot. Brand new "please select your language" .. Wtf? So then I went back to TWRP wiped everything tried to restore again. Now... Fail. So now I can't boot up because I wiped my ROM and I'm freaking stuck all over this 4.3 update. Really?
So now I will try to wait until WUGS toolkit gets updated and see if I can use it to flash a stock 4.3 image to the device then root it. I don't know if i can even use that toolkit if I don't have a ROM on the device. Anyone had experience with such a cluster and have advice? Any thoughts on why the nandroid didn't restore?
:banghead:
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Start again, using the 4.3 factory image, and do it MANUALLY - none of this BS toolkit rubbish
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Start again, using the 4.3 factory image, and do it MANUALLY - none of this BS toolkit rubbish
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I haven't had any trouble with the toolkits personally and Wugs kit is very nice and easy to use. This whole mess does not stem from the use of a toolkit. Really something screwed up with TWRP I just don't know what caused it.
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Here's a guide made by me... It's really straight forward. And no waiting for toolkits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO7HkTrRzwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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italia0101 said:
Here's a guide made by me... It's really straight forward. And no waiting for toolkits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO7HkTrRzwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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To follow your guide do i need to be stock or can i use flash-all.bat even if i'm on sabermod and have twrp installed?
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To follow your guide do i need to be stock or can i use flash-all.bat even if i'm on sabermod and have twrp installed?
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Yep anything you want. Doesn't matter, I was on pa and matrix
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Well thanks. I will look forward to watching this. Again this will flash stock img, root, and unlock bootloader? And I don't have a rom on my device at all. Is that okay?
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jcnbama said:
So last night I decided (against my better judgment) to install TWRP recovery and flash the OTA. ...
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I could tell this was going downhill after reading this first sentence. Why would you install a custom recovery in order to flash an OTA? I don't mean to offend you but you have a lot of reading to do before you continue flashing anything.
I was in the same boat and confused as hell back in my Nexus One/Galaxy Nexus days. What I've discovered after a lot of trial and error as well as A LOT of reading, is that once you become extremely familiar with using ADB and Fastboot commands you realize how unbelievably simple this stuff really is. Even soft bricks are just small hiccups that won't stress you out anymore.
Learn how to properly use ADB/Fastboot commands through terminal (in OSX) or command prompt (n Windows) and you will realize that the toolkits are silly and do exactly the same thing.
Again, I mean this in the least offensive way possible. This is coming from someone who thought he bricked his Nexus 7 and let it sit in a drawer for 5 months before finally understanding ADB/Fastboot, pulling it out of the drawer and having it back up and running within 10 minutes...
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Well thanks. I will look forward to watching this. Again this will flash stock img, root, and unlock bootloader? And I don't have a rom on my device at all. Is that okay?
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This is completely OK. Follow THIS guide (just one of many) to learn how to setup your computer for ADB/Fastboot. Then follow THIS guide to learn how to flash back to completely stock. No current ROM is required on your phone to do any of this.
I swear this is a nightmare. I don't have TBU or anything. I literally have to start over. I am always VERY careful to read and make back ups that's why I use TWRP it's why I make Nandroids and this just sucks. Ugh. I have to piss and moan I don't know where to start lol. Thanks for letting me vent..
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I haven't had any trouble with the toolkits personally and Wugs kit is very nice and easy to use. This whole mess does not stem from the use of a toolkit. Really something screwed up with TWRP I just don't know what caused it.
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its not that there is trouble using root toolkits(even though there is occasionally), it the fact that you dont learn to do things the right way. and when little issues come up, the knowledge isnt there to fix things yourself. and those little minor things turn into major headaches/issues.
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its not that there is trouble using root toolkits(even though there is occasionally), it the fact that you dont learn to do things the right way. and when little issues come up, the knowledge isnt there to fix things yourself. and those little minor things turn into major headaches/issues.
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Well I do understand that point. It's a good one. I honestly don't know how to use ADB like I should. But at the same time it's a lot easier and if used properly can prevent mistakes. And good Devs make good money in donations so everyone is happy.. Lol :beer:
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I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Yes
Note that you want to keep your device as close to stock as possible if you want to install the OTAs. Rooting is no issue but you will encounter errors if you flash custom radios for example.
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I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Yes, and no if you're like me, I flash custom kernel, digs out nearly 50% of the system app replacing them with something to greenify them.
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I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Not sure if this is your first android phone but its generally the same with all of them. If you root and alter files that the update checks for it will not update. Although there is not a big deal to update then flash the updated rom. Not sure why so many people worry about updates when a custom rom update will show up.
You also can get an app call otarootkeeper and lastly google is full of methods to achieve your goal its always good to google prior to posting a question... Never know what you may find
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Not sure if this is your first android phone but its generally the same with all of them. If you root and alter files that the update checks for it will not update. Although there is not a big deal to update then flash the updated rom. Not sure why so many people worry about updates when a custom rom update will show up.
You also can get an app call otarootkeeper and lastly google is full of methods to achieve your goal its always good to google prior to posting a question... Never know what you may find
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OTA RootKeeper no longer works as of 4.3. The way to get root back now is by installing SuperSU through recovery.
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OTA RootKeeper no longer works as of 4.3. The way to get root back now is by installing SuperSU through recovery.
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Yea but flashing Su would mean installing a custom recovery. He is trying to stay stock
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Yea but flashing Su would mean installing a custom recovery. He is trying to stay stock
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You can revert back to stock recovery by downloading the factory image and flashing recovery.img buried deep within it:
fastboot flash recovery C:/recovery.img
OTA RootKeeper has served its purpose, and had done so for a long time; however, it is currently no longer functional.
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You can revert back to stock recovery by downloading the factory image and flashing recovery.img buried deep within it:
fastboot flash recovery C:/recovery.img
OTA RootKeeper has served its purpose, and had done so for a long time; however, it is currently no longer functional.
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I agree with you but saying a person that wants stock normally is trying to do as little as possible to their phone. Flashing a recovery via fastboot may not be an option. If thats the case you can simply just flash the stock recovery via zipfile and use SuperSu and it has an uninstall root function
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I did just that.. When I bought my phone it had 4.2.2. Flashed a custom recovery, then rooted it as well.. When 4.3 OTA was out, mine also downloaded it.. I unrooted my phone using the unroot option in SuperSu and flashed stock recovery back and installed OTA just like a layman would, and , well, 4.3..
Later I read in this forum that few ppl who had custom recovery also were able to update normally to 4.3 through OTA.. But I didn't do that , so I can't give my word on that.
In case you don't get the ota or if it is unsuccessful, you can always do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
Happy rooting !
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Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?
When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor
I am. Of course the factory images will probably be released before OTA so I will flash them instead
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When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor
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No one knows for sure = rumor
I am
I'm on PA now, but will probably go back to stock when 4.4 arrives. As I heard over at ParanoidAndroid Community on G+ on 4.4 they're going to make it all over again, so it's going to take time.
Waited for PA 4.3, not going to wait again for 4.4
I am currently back on stock in anticipation of that sweet chocolatey crunch.
I can use AOSP or stock as long as Xposed Framework is working for it too.
After what happened with 4.3 update -_- I am going to wait for couple days before jumping to Kit Kat. Probably will wait for PA Kit Kat rom.
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I literally just flashed back to stock today. However, I am considering flashing another rom because I keep losing data on stock. I can always flash the system image for KitKat when it's released.
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I m already on stock. Will I get the OTA if iam on a rooted stock ROM?
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I'll go back to stock just to have the vanilla experience for awhile before jumping on a rom.
always been on stock rom rooted and twrp installed phone always takes ota updates just fine ......never seen any point flashing custom rom on this phone as phone is pretty cool as is ...only issue i have with the nexus 4 is that they knocked 100 off price 3 weeks after i purchased haha but love this phone
Will probably flash back to stock and then restore my current ROM as a second rom.
I will flash factory images and start all over with a fresh new phone. Hopefully it still has root. I wanna stick with stock for awhile now sick of various bugs here and there. For example, on cm my GPS takes hours to lock and even when it locks it isn't precise but on PA, GPS works just fine. The phone also lags here and there like when I initially turn it on from sleep and try to unlock or pull notification bar down. For me stock has always been faster than custom ROMs even though they have some really useful features
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I just got a new nexus 7 2013. So I left that stock and lucky me on my Nexus 4 started getting base band unknown on anything but stock JWR rooted. So clean wiped and flashed stock. I had a Neo kernel system folder with scripts I couldn't delete. Feel much better now, couldn't say if I had ever clean wiped since getting the phone.
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I will flash factory images.. I don't want to wait the OTA..
Already stock except for the kernel. Just a quick 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' of the stock 4.3 kernel and I'll be all set for OTA or Factory Images (though Factory Images would mean I don't even need to waste time reflashing stock 4.3 kernel.)
Probably going to use default stock launcher for awhile depending on the changes instead of Smart Launcher. Really like the rumors/previews we've seen of it so far. Especially since I am so embedded with Google Now. The left panel swipe would be awesome I think.
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Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?
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I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.
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I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.
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Exactly that
That solved nearly all of my problem's
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I would but I can't live without franko kernel or PIE, so I'll wait for Pa update
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