Hangouts SMS slow - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since google want us to use hangouts as our main SMS app, why don't they lock it I'm the ram memory?
Even on art, opening hangouts takes about 3 seconds while the standard SMS app opens instantly.
Any fix for this or any idea why they don't cache it in the ram? Even in faster phones like the note 3 it requires a lot of startup time...
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Well if it's really a disaster for you use stock SMS or alternatives like Go SMS Pro or Handcet SMS. Try wiping data of the Hangouts app. It require some time because it has to load some info from interet.

msihp said:
Well if it's really a disaster for you use stock SMS or alternatives like Go SMS Pro or Handcet SMS. Try wiping data of the Hangouts app. It require some time because it has to load some info from interet.
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It's not a problem, i dont use it as my main messaging app...
But it is strange that this happens considering they want it as the main SMS app... iMessage doesnt have that problem even on the 3gs.

msihp said:
Well if it's really a disaster for you use stock SMS or alternatives like Go SMS Pro or Handcet SMS. Try wiping data of the Hangouts app. It require some time because it has to load some info from interet.
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I dont think he thought it was a disaster but rather speaking his mind
dodgebizkit said:
It's not a problem, i dont use it as my main messaging app...
But it is strange that this happens considering they want it as the main SMS app... iMessage doesnt have that problem even on the 3gs.
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You are right they do need to speed up the app if they want everyone to convert to it.

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Pissed off with handcent

Ok this is the second time this has happened to me since a few updates now handcent messaging app seems to crash and force close alot.
And again after a good few times doing this it deleted all my messages!!! more then 9000
What is causing this fed up cause i cant seem find a decent app that just backs up sms messages that works and that is free cause pay programs will not work for me.
have you tried chomp? i prefer it to handcent. And also, why would you want 9000 sms on your phone...???
I txt alot of people and like having the messages there long story lol
I tried chomp ya but handcent seemed to be better might go bk to it any ideas on a proper backup program?
try smsbackup, it backs up all your sms to gmail!
Im using sms backup and restore at the moment seems to be ok SO FAR lol i dont use Gmail so ehh dont see the point lol

Large SMS History takes a log time to load

I'm sure I'm not the only one having this issue and just wanted to know you thoughts...
My SMS threads with 400+ are really starting to take a while to open, one of my threads with 600+ takes over 8 seconds before it shows up after I select it (just shows the loading message) and then another 3 - 6 seconds before I can click on the message to reply... Other than deleting the thread, does anyone else know how to resolve this? I find it hard to believe that a 1GHz processor can't handle a thread of 600 messages...
By the way, I have HTX Sense turnes off, I'm running a stock HTC non animated background, only 3 widgets that don't do much, and nothing running in the background (by using Advanced Task Killer @ Fast Reboot).
Thanks You'all for your help!
Rob
Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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eddie90000 said:
Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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I just want to say thanks- I've used this program before, but never noticed its superiority until now... it really is much faster and better in every way- now I just gotta figure out how to remove the stock SMS notification so I'm not clearing two notifications for each SMS...
Thanks Again,
Rob
Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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I just want to say thanks- I've used this program before, but never noticed its superiority until now... it really is much faster and better in every way- now I just gotta figure out how to remove the stock SMS notification so I'm not clearing two notifications for each SMS...
Thanks Again,
Rob
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Just open the stock messaging app, hit menu, settings, disable notifications.
Don't take this wrong - but why would you need/want/desire to keep 2000 text messages. Are you in a legal battle and need to document everything?
Keeping messages can come in handy, but I prefer to clear out occasionally, so I use SMSBackup (free app) and it copies all my messages to a folder in my GMail account, so I can still search them if I need to get a hold of something in the history. Not to mention the added plus of looking through my messages from a desktop when I want to find a number or address..

Hangouts APK v2

If anyone is looking, here's the APK:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxNu8eof1O79MFFUc0U2eDRJTTA/edit?usp=sharing
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/hangouts-v2-download/
bfspider said:
If anyone is looking, here's the APK:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxNu8eof1O79MFFUc0U2eDRJTTA/edit?usp=sharing
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/hangouts-v2-download/
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will this work with 4.3?
it works htc one! this is badass!! thanks m8
It works ok for me but force closes when I send MMS, on a Galaxy Note 3 on 4.3
If anyone has a workaround for the crash please share
They did a lousy job with this new version. There should be a clear distinction between Hangouts and SMS/MMS messaging, and there isn't. They have them all in a gigantic list.
Having a tiny little label for SMS is a terrible way to do this.
Works great on my gs4 tmo
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nickmv said:
They did a lousy job with this new version. There should be a clear distinction between Hangouts and SMS/MMS messaging, and there isn't. They have them all in a gigantic list.
Having a tiny little label for SMS is a terrible way to do this.
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You're right it blows. Time to find a good this party sms app. No quick reply, it's pretty gingerbread-esque.
Sent from my One
Please test out the video call function. Seems to derp out for me. No fc but stays in connecting
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Bug
Hangouts does not work for me :
Bug to send an MMS
CM10.2 Official-Nightly GT-I9100G
Message not sent. Hit to retry
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Hangouts V2 works great on my Note 2 running Pac-man 4.3.1. MMS works no FC's only thing is does it only send SMS to a contact that has hangouts installed too? My understanding was it would send to both sorta like iMessage?
works nice on nexus 4, only wish it had an option to customize colors of incoming and outgoing messages
I agree with many people, the Hangouts / SMS integration is a let down Many of us thought it would be similar to the iMessage integration and that was exciting.. Also, let's hope it's faster on the N5 than on my N4. It takes quite awhile to open.. :silly: Google has a long way to go with this app, but let's just hope it gets better soon Enjoying the new SMS UI anyway haha :highfive:
Still not working on my Galaxy Note 3
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Ngo93 said:
I agree with many people, the Hangouts / SMS integration is a let down Many of us thought it would be similar to the iMessage integration and that was exciting.. Also, let's hope it's faster on the N5 than on my N4. It takes quite awhile to open.. :silly: Google has a long way to go with this app, but let's just hope it gets better soon Enjoying the new SMS UI anyway haha :highfive:
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So wait a minute? The Hangouts/SMS integration isn't the same as the iMessage?
Can the Hangouts handle the SMS over data/wifi?
cipsaz said:
So wait a minute? The Hangouts/SMS integration isn't the same as the iMessage?
Can the Hangouts handle the SMS over data/wifi?
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No, basically it's just a merge of the SMS / Hangouts app. There are 2 separate conversation lists for your SMS and your Hangout messages =\
I don't believe so. Anything over data / WiFi would just be a Hangouts message.
Works fine on Sprint HTC One...however, it doesnt notify me of messages. No sound, no vibrate, no notification icon........which kind of defeats the purpose of the app since it disables the stock messengers notifications.
Ngo93 said:
No, basically it's just a merge of the SMS / Hangouts app. There are 2 separate conversation lists for your SMS and your Hangout messages =\
I don't believe so. Anything over data / WiFi would just be a Hangouts message.
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Wow, big disappointment.
Are the hangouts SMSs get saved to google servers automatically and can be restored?
cipsaz said:
Wow, big disappointment.
Are the hangouts SMSs get saved to google servers automatically and can be restored?
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I don't believe so.
Ngo93 said:
I don't believe so.
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So what does the Hangouts SMS integration mean?
cipsaz said:
So what does the Hangouts SMS integration mean?
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That it's all in 1 app now lol.

A better text messaging app?

What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
Chomp
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Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app?
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
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I'm enjoying EvolveSMS a lot. Frequently updated and very smooth. Nice design, a good amount of features and it handles MMS fairly well depending on your carrier.
Google Play - EvolveSMS
The free version is ok but to get the full app and all its awesome extra little features i think its got $2 of in app purchases
Also has backing up to dropbox/google drive and what not
bigube said:
Chomp
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kylecore said:
I'm enjoying EvolveSMS a lot. Frequently updated and very smooth. Nice design, a good amount of features and it handles MMS fairly well depending on your carrier.
Google Play - EvolveSMS
The free version is ok but to get the full app and all its awesome extra little features i think its got $2 of in app purchases
Also has backing up to dropbox/google drive and what not
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Both of those list MMS issues. But will be trying both.
Jeffrey000 said:
Both of those list MMS issues. But will be trying both.
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I had MMS issues like 3 weeks ago but they have since been resolved and improved quite a bit.
My favourite SMS app so far, offers quick reply popup settings as well plus themes are amazing.
Also allows sliding between conversations and a nice pull out list of convos.
Seriously once you try it i find it hard to believe you'll end up wanting to use anything else.
Handcent sms. Worked ceven w apn issues on sprint mms where others dailee
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Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
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I've been using Hello SMS and I really like it. It's got a different and I think better UI than anything else I have tried.
Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
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If you're a Uber-texter,
Sliding Messsaging Pro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.messaging_donate
Evolve is okay, But it's essentially a pared down version of Sliding Messagin Pro (even made by the same people)--except for the funky UI. It looks nice, but it's wonky to use:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.evolve_sms
Handcent is another beloved SMS app…It's been around for eons and is a favorite around here. It's got every feature a bacon-loving man could ever want…but it's butt ugly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.nextsms
Go SMS Pro -- Essentially on par with handcent. But it has a downside. Even though it's one of the most customizable of the bunch….it takes hours to configure, and even then, just like GO Keyboard, it loves to place big buttons in places you don't want them, and it hides obscure details and features deep within the config and settings….which means that you'll find random numbers and other metadata in your inbox, not really understand what they mean, and then you'll spend the next 20-30 mins trying to figure out how to get rid of them. While this is probably the most-heavily-themed of the bunch, the themes are almost universally garbage. They're unpolished-- the whole lot of them. It's nearly impossible to find a theme that actually skins/themes absolutely everything. Dev's choice of colors, graphics, design is questionable at best. Lastly, the GO Dev team's relentless drive towards integration means that any day now, your app will update and you'll suddenly find out that your SMS app is now your dialer, your lock screen, your camera app, and your flashlight app. Oh…and they'll want you to pay for the "prime" version of every one of those apps-- with GETJAR Gold.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jb.gosms
Other options:
Hangouts now integrates SMS into your Hangouts inbox.
ATT Messaging App-- will integrate voicemail, SMS, MMS, and a few other things like account notifications into a single box for you…which is really, really nice…but the app is also really, really ugly.
There are also apps like SMS Popup which will give you the chance to respond to an incoming message via a notification action or popup.
Lastly, you can just find a AOSP SMS app, configure it, and then theme it with XPosed's XTheme.
Good luck.
Textra
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I can't read jamesboy's post, but I think I see a link to a klinker app... Sliding Messaging. Great texting app imho. MMS was a problem until very recently with it, but that appears to be fixed.
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Try the sms app 8sms

Slow and laggy stock Messaging/SMS app

Hi,
I restored 16k messages with SMS Backup and Restore. Everything went pretty OK.
In one thread I have more than 7k SMS messages. Others - smaller.
Is it normal that stock SMS app can't handle that big amount of messages (7k+) without lag in one thread?
I had absolutely no problem or lag with my 3Yr old Galaxy Nexus.
Switched to Hangout and no problems or lag there. But still would like to use stock SMS app.
Any ideas?
Agree
I am having the same problem with my S4. Seems like i am not getting twitter or facebook sms for a long period of time. How can we boost the speed?
Me too. Restored 23k of messages.
It is only slow when in a thread trying to go back to the main list. Otherwise it is ok.
Honestly you're asking for trouble leaving all the messages on the phone. I had a Samsung Infuse and kept tons of messages on it. One day I stopped receiving messages. After I deleted all my messages, I started receiving them again smh
Why not use Hangouts? Any reason for the preference to the stock app? I cannot go back since it does not look that great (UI)...
Also, I am curious to know why you need to track so many text messages... I delete them on a weekly basis.
Messaging should be fast. Hangout requires 1-2 taps more than stock app to do same tasks.
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I know some human is insane. Keeping 7K, 10K, 20K message for what?
Keep track for future revenge? Speechless...
agree, I like keep my messages too but I upload them to my gmail using SMS backup+
it's much easier to navigate that way too
Andrewtst said:
I know some human is insane. Keeping 7K, 10K, 20K message for what?
Keep track for future revenge? Speechless...
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Lol.. For me, it's more for sentimental reasons [emoji6]
Fwiw, I currently have close to 60k smses, restored all the way from my days of using the HTC HD2 when I flashed droid on it [emoji16]
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Andrewtst said:
I know some human is insane. Keeping 7K, 10K, 20K message for what?
Keep track for future revenge? Speechless...
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Hey, don't judge how people choose to use their phones. Some want all their messages stored, some erase some of them, some erase all of them. It's nobody's business why and certainly sanity is not assessed by the amount of SMS on your phone.
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I know some human is insane. Keeping 7K, 10K, 20K message for what?
Keep track for future revenge? Speechless...
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I just don't delete them.
I also don't delete emails in my Gmail account since the start of the Gmail service. Beacuse Google said "you will never need to delete your email". I don't delete my corporate emails as well. I applied the same to text messages. It worked so far: my previous phone (Galaxy Nexus) handled without problems. Today in Note 4 - only Hangout app handles them without a lag.
Absolutely no intentions of future revenge or smth.
bat0nas said:
I just don't delete them.
I also don't delete emails in my Gmail account since the start of the Gmail service. Beacuse Google said "you will never need to delete your email". I don't delete my corporate emails as well. I applied the same to text messages. It worked so far: my previous phone (Galaxy Nexus) handled without problems. Today in Note 4 - only Hangout app handles them without a lag.
Absolutely no intentions of future revenge or smth.
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Email is different. It not load all in your device.
SMS wise is not, you need full load. Without delete it just equal to find trouble itself.
bat0nas said:
Switched to Hangout and no problems or lag there. But still would like to use stock SMS app.
Any ideas?
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What is it about the stock app that you prefer? I was using mysms for a while between note 4 and tab 4 and then switched back to the stock Messages app and the lag was a bit much for me. Conversations taking 5-10 seconds to load, I had to wait to start typing for a few seconds otherwise I would get a crazy mix of the first few words, etc. There are several alternatives in the play store though, I'm currently trying out textra and haven't had any issues, lag or otherwise.
Now I use Messenger from Google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging
Better than both stock and hangouts.
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