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Freezing in WinMo messaging

Anybody have this happen to them all the time?
When I exit a mesage, the message list will usually freeze for maybe 3-5 minutes
Very annoying.
Fix anywhere?

Anyone?

Can't say I've had this problem, sorrry.

Americanmetal said:
Anybody have this happen to them all the time?
When I exit a mesage, the message list will usually freeze for maybe 3-5 minutes
Very annoying.
Fix anywhere?
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yeah, that happens to me too--my best guess root-cause is that it's due to the fact that I have TONS of text messages that I've been keeping over the years.
I always notice that it's worse right after I've flashed my phone and restored my data. I think this is because it's re-threading my messages.
I don't have any fixes or work-arounds, but perhaps my theory might inspire one!

Americanmetal said:
Anybody have this happen to them all the time?
When I exit a mesage, the message list will usually freeze for maybe 3-5 minutes
Very annoying.
Fix anywhere?
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Yes, annoying. I delete the thread of messages I have with someone that I notice takes a while to close and then it's speedy again. This is a frustrating solution because you can't keep much of a history, but at least it speeds thigns up a bit.

I have the same problem, though it doesn't last for 3-5 minutes, thankfully. According to my MyPhone page, I have 1174 messages. This doesn't sound like very many to me.
I notice in Task Manager that SMS takes over 2 MB. Maybe this is part of the reason for the sluggishness?
Another (minor) annoyance is that, in the Windows SMS app (I don't use Touch Flow), when I tap "reply" to a text, the program will take time to thread the messages from that sender and then load the SIP (I use Swype currently). Next, the SIP goes away and I'm left with the cursor at the bottom of the screen in a blank area for my reply. I have to reactivate the SIP and wait for the screen to redraw again before I can begin typing. Seems like weird behavior.

I had this issue and identified it to the threader feature in 6.5 when you have large amounts of messages, just disable threader feature under settings menu and issue will go away..

wildman said:
I had this issue and identified it to the threader feature in 6.5 when you have large amounts of messages, just disable threader feature under settings menu and issue will go away..
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or you can just use MyPhone to archive some messages... again, when you add or subtract a large amount of data from your sms database, your phone will take some time to re-thread all your messages.
Eventually, when all the messages are threaded, you won't experience the slow-down.
I think this is LESS about WinMo, and MORE due to the fact that we really, really need Snapdragon processors

Newest ROM fixes this problem. At least thus far! Yay.

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Newest ROM fixes this problem. At least thus far! Yay.
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What newest ROM are you referring to???

Well, the "new" rom from VZW. It's now official from VZW. http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=136&cid=1&mid=364&carrier=Verizon Wireless

has anyone tried this "new" rom from VZW?

Replying SMS lag.. (Slow loading of text messages)

Hi all,
I've just got my HD2 this morning. I'm having a problem when trying to create an SMS by replying from the text messages tab.
This particular contact has around 500 messages and pressing 'reply' takes more than 20 seconds before even the onscreen keyboard to load for me to type the reply. I've tried other contacts with less messages, whilst it is quick, there is still a noticeable lag to load all of the previous messages.
Is anyone else having this problem?

Yes. The contacts/text messaging app seems to suffer from a lot of slowdown. I also have the feeling it's linked to the number of messages for each contact.
Saving a contact after editing can be slow as well.

I did a bit of a search...looks like this is a problem with the HTC messaging app in Manila 2.5 ..... sigh........ such a fundamental problem!

Too many people complain about SMS issues. SMS functionality should be one of the very first tests you do to a modern mobile device during Q.A.
At least its still good to know that I'll be able to speak with it.

Same here. Too slow..

Here the same problem. Can somebody make a fix for it please?

Delete all the SMS history with the contact who is taking long for the keyboard to load up.
The reason for this slowdown is that it is loading all your SMS messages with that contact, both sent and received. Hence it takes ages to load up.
1. Go to the SMS screen for your slow-loading contact, wait for it to load
2. Press 'Menu'
3. Press 'Delete Messages'
4. Press 'Menu'
5. Press 'Select All'
6. Press 'Done'

Where is the snapdragon?
man I need to get this Phone,but this seems to be the first real let down ,I use lots of SMS and to me deleting is not an option.
Must be found a work around.

HTC definately rushed this ROM.
The calendar bug, the spelling mistake in the connections settings, apparently the speed is slower than the test ROMs, and now this.

Well the only thing that lags with Touch HD on wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 is the HTC SMS.. That what made be believe I should upgrade my device to HD2. Now that I see that the device is also lagging with a dozen of SMSs... Thanks but I will not buy it unless a solution is found. I have more than 2500 work SMS all business related and I CANT FIND A REASON TO DELETE IT.
DIDNT THEY TRY THE DEVICE BEFORE SELLING IT??
EVEN A NOKIA 3310 CAN STORE 500+ SMS !!

Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.

loomx said:
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
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Even with Thread mode off and normal SMS display, it is very slow. Try restoring 200 SMS, it will takes 10 mins. Re-access your SMS menu, you will still lag as hell.
Cannot forgive them for making such a mistake.

was going to get it today
My non HTC device loaded with + 250 messages opens the SMS app.in 2 sec. Replying and bringing up the keyboard is almost from instantaneous to 1 sec,but I need to get a WM phone.
Just one question though:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?

I've found a workaround for now..
Use the HTC Messaging app in traditional mode. From there, you could reply SMSes using the non-threaded mode. Once it loads, it's pretty quick to open again.
Still..the major lag is still there when you open a contact with many text messages....this is very dissapointing and could even be a dealbreaker for a few people.
Even my TD1 with Manila 2.1 doesn't have this problem.

hagba said:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
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NO! the problem it's just in senseUI

In the meantime, let your providers and htc know (mail). htc need to release a proper fix for this.

Manila 2.1 on my TP2 did`t have this problem at all.
To be honest .... 2.5 Manila messaging is crap!

I know this isn't an ideal solution, but it'll do for me (for now), and I'm sure some others will be happy enough with it as a temporary fix.
Use Microsoft MyPhone to get all your texts uploaded and then archive them using the web interface. You can then delete as many as you like off the phone and still be happy that you've got a backup online.
Not a solution, but a reasonable workround for now.
Edit: I can confirm that this works. I went to the MyPhone web interface and archived all my text messages. Then I synched from my mobile and it deleted all the local texts that I had archived (in this case, all of them). I can now edit and select contacts with only a slight lag. It's still a crap amount of lag for such a fast phone, but it's a lot better.

They should do like on the iPhone: when you chat with a contact, you get the last 10-15 messages of the thread. If you want to read older messages you press a button on top of the thread that will then show all the others.

+1!! I do think too that it's the obvious solution!!!! Why the hello do HTC's SMS apps display the full thread of SMS's on their app, it's pretty much useless, and causes lags!!! The last 10 sms's like in Outlokk or on the iPhone is enough!
I don't know what the hell HTC's devs are thinking sometimes....

SMS delete problem - WAIT! dont flame!

Ok so before I get flamed, I have spent hours using the search feature looking for an answer. I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered, feel free to delete this thread but I'm desparate for an answer.
As the title states, I can't delete my sms messages. I send about 400 a day not including messages received. I'm stuck at about 8k messages and I'm on my 4th hard reset since I got the phone 2 days before it came out.
As I'm sure you guys are aware, the phone won't delete more than few hundred at a time. When I have this many messages in my inbox the phone behaves ridiculously slow to the point where its unusable.
I did find one solution involving the command prompt and several adb commands, but it didn't work for me.
If anyone has a solution It would be greatly appretiated.
Again, I apologize in advance if this has already been covered.

I know if you are using Handcent SMS, it takes awhile to delete a lot of SMS. I had about 400 in a threaded conversation with my GF, and when Handcent started to lag because I had so many, I had to delete them. It took probably about 1-2 mins to delete the whole thread. So just press delete and wait like an hour or so haha.

yea i had about 2k messages and my phone wouldnt delete em, what i did was wipe, felt like my only choice, just start deleting all those messages after it gets to 500 (unless u really need all 8k of those messages). the messages do get stored in your phone so eventually it will lag the hell out of your phone. you can also use fresh pre kitchen, it has a tool i saw for deleting text messages and backing them up, i cant say it works or not because i never used it. worth taking a chance tho

if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's

Not using handcent, and I really would like to avoid having to delete my messages everyday. An auto delete program/feature might be the best option for me if either exists.
This saddens me because my old touch with wm6 would hold 30k messages just fine
702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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I am, I'll give that a try.
Thanks for the quick responses guys!

702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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+1 It works great and its way faster than doing it manually
Fresh Pre-Kitchen 0.2

In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?

ultivegito2 said:
In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?
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or even better, to back them up to the SD card before deleting them (just in case)...that'd be sweet

N1 running a bit slow and glitchy?

not sure whats up...
sometimes it takes a while for message to come up.. or opening a thread... or switching back to main screen message. is it because there is too many texts? or does that not matter?
also sometimes the N1 is a bit glitchy to where ones where i have contacts for in address book, shows up as number without picture... like if i didnt have the contact added... then after a while, the name shows up again..
any ideas?
stock N1 on 2.2.1
*edit* using the advanced task killer doesnt help either.

The messaging app will slow way down if you have a lot of saved texts.

24417 according to SMS Backup & Restore...

I use an app to back up all my SMS's to my gmail (tv.studer.smssync) and then have another app that automatically deletes any over a week old from my phone (com.carrotapp.smscleanerpro) - this one was a paid app, but only like $1

MaximReapage said:
I use an app to back up all my SMS's to my gmail (tv.studer.smssync) and then have another app that automatically deletes any over a week old from my phone (com.carrotapp.smscleanerpro) - this one was a paid app, but only like $1
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what are the links for? does it work for stock N1? $1 is no problem as long as it works well..
how does it back up to ur gmail? can u see it on gmail?
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trying that SMS backup ... omg so slow.. 100 per backup... 24417 to back up.. >_<

It'll take a while, but then you can finally get rid of all those messages in your inbox. I have some 4k messages floating about in my gmail, but only ~100-200 on my phone at any time.
Also, in case you didn't already see, it creates a label in gmail called "SMS" so you have a threaded conversation list view of the messages.

iandroo888 said:
24417 according to SMS Backup & Restore...
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wtf? 24k texts???? Hope you use the voice texting feature, or your fingers might get a little calloused...

MaximReapage said:
It'll take a while, but then you can finally get rid of all those messages in your inbox. I have some 4k messages floating about in my gmail, but only ~100-200 on my phone at any time.
Also, in case you didn't already see, it creates a label in gmail called "SMS" so you have a threaded conversation list view of the messages.
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i guess it not my business, im just curious why you would back up that many sms? why would you keep that many on your phone in the first place?

You can't expect 24k text messages and the phone running perfectly smooth.
Why are you keeping them all and backing them up anyway? Are you really going to sit down and read all of it one day? You're crazy if you do lol. I have about 4k right now and each thread is limited to 200 each. So it probably won't be moving from that at all. If I have to go through anything, I think going through 200 messages would be enough. If you're not gonna read all your texts and stuff, I suggest limiting them. Otherwise, backing it all up will just be a pain

24k texts? That's way overkill. SMS restore and backup has an option to just view your xml backups. If you need to read them again, just use that instead of importing them back to your phone. Messages take up space in the phone's internal memory so it's wise to clean up your messages.
But still 24000 messages? I can already already imagine 10000+ "Okies"...

simms22 said:
i guess it not my business, im just curious why you would back up that many sms? why would you keep that many on your phone in the first place?
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Not at one time, that's my running total in backup (gmail). Like I said, I only have 100-200 on my phone at any given time.

I recommend SMS Backup and Restore by Ritesh Sahu. The other SMS Backup app only backs up your smses to Gmail, which IMO is not practical for 24000 over messages. It takes time and data to upload so many messages to your Gmail.
SMS Backup and Restore on the other hand backs up text smses into a xml file which is much much quicker and easier to handle although 240000+ smses will probably still take up some time. Unfortunately it does not back up MMS messages with pictures though I seldom use MMS anyway.

looks like theres a limit on how much gmail can save SMS's... up to 100 per person.. D: i have some ppl in the thousands on my phone :[

Slow Interface for Text Messages

I am not sure if it is just me or everyone else is also having this problem also:
The Message app interface is really slow. It takes a long time to load or send messages. There is atleast a 5+ second delay when interfacing with different threads. For example: When I am reading my txt messages from person A, and then I press the back button to view all my messages, it takes atleast 5+ secs to go back to the view with all messages.
To troubleshoot this issue, I backed up my mmssms.db file and deleted it from the phone. This way I start fresh with no saved message. All of a sudden this issue was solved. The interface was fast again with no lag at all. But when I restored my original mmssms.db again, the interface becomes slow again.
Any way resolve this issue?
Edit: I am using the MDJ FroYo Revolution v2.3 NAND build.

Is this problem occurring in the Android ROM you have in your signature, or in WM?
If it's WM then you need to update your ROM as there were SMS lag issues in early WM ROMs.

johncmolyneux said:
Is this problem occurring in the Android ROM you have in your signature, or in WM?
If it's WM then you need to update your ROM as there were SMS lag issues in early WM ROMs.
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Yes, I am using the Android MDJ FroYo Revolution v2.3 NAND build.

Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?

I never had that problem... How many messages do you have?

DeadVirus said:
I never had that problem... How many messages do you have?
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I have over 5000+ txt in total.

Zythyr said:
I have over 5000+ txt in total.
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Well I have less than 1000, so that may be your problem...

Well I don't want to delete all my text. I like having all the conversations saved. Is there any fix for this issue?

I can't suggest a solution that would make the messaging app quicker with that many texts, but I use an app called SMS Backup+ (available free on the Market) and it automatically backs up all messages (and new messages) to your Gmail account, in a new folder called SMS. That way, you could delete them from your phone and still have access to them.
Alternatively, try an another SMS app, like GO SMS (again, free on the Market, as are many others). It may be better for you.

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I can't suggest a solution that would make the messaging app quicker with that many texts, but I use an app called SMS Backup+ (available free on the Market) and it automatically backs up all messages (and new messages) to your Gmail account, in a new folder called SMS. That way, you could delete them from your phone and still have access to them.
Alternatively, try an another SMS app, like GO SMS (again, free on the Market, as are many others). It may be better for you.
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I installed GO SMS. Really like the app, thanks for the tip, although the interface is still slow.
Also, I have been noticing my text messages keep randomly being deleted. Luckily I have them backed up and have to restore it. I have noticed this problem atleast 4 times during the last 4 days. Why is this happening? I made sure to go to Settings and uncheck limited messages.