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SMS delete problem - WAIT! dont flame!

Ok so before I get flamed, I have spent hours using the search feature looking for an answer. I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered, feel free to delete this thread but I'm desparate for an answer.
As the title states, I can't delete my sms messages. I send about 400 a day not including messages received. I'm stuck at about 8k messages and I'm on my 4th hard reset since I got the phone 2 days before it came out.
As I'm sure you guys are aware, the phone won't delete more than few hundred at a time. When I have this many messages in my inbox the phone behaves ridiculously slow to the point where its unusable.
I did find one solution involving the command prompt and several adb commands, but it didn't work for me.
If anyone has a solution It would be greatly appretiated.
Again, I apologize in advance if this has already been covered.

I know if you are using Handcent SMS, it takes awhile to delete a lot of SMS. I had about 400 in a threaded conversation with my GF, and when Handcent started to lag because I had so many, I had to delete them. It took probably about 1-2 mins to delete the whole thread. So just press delete and wait like an hour or so haha.

yea i had about 2k messages and my phone wouldnt delete em, what i did was wipe, felt like my only choice, just start deleting all those messages after it gets to 500 (unless u really need all 8k of those messages). the messages do get stored in your phone so eventually it will lag the hell out of your phone. you can also use fresh pre kitchen, it has a tool i saw for deleting text messages and backing them up, i cant say it works or not because i never used it. worth taking a chance tho

if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's

Not using handcent, and I really would like to avoid having to delete my messages everyday. An auto delete program/feature might be the best option for me if either exists.
This saddens me because my old touch with wm6 would hold 30k messages just fine
702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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I am, I'll give that a try.
Thanks for the quick responses guys!

702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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+1 It works great and its way faster than doing it manually
Fresh Pre-Kitchen 0.2

In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?

ultivegito2 said:
In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?
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or even better, to back them up to the SD card before deleting them (just in case)...that'd be sweet

Grrrr! All SMS deleted...

I had all of my SMS messages for over a year saved on the phone. A couple thousand of them at least. Until today.
I was receiving a couple of SMS from a friend of mine and lamenting that the built in messaging software doesn't provide a nice way to see a message at a glance without having to unlock the phone and bring down the notification bar, etc. With my G1 I had been using SMS popup for most of this past year and I liked it, but thought I would just try seeing how it was living with the basic messaging system on the N1 since I got it.
So, just as I'm thinking that maybe I should reinstall SMS popup since the built-in support had me swiping and swiping too much to just check the messages I get a FC on the "MMS" system app. Through the FC screen I could see all the thread of messages and was worried that if I FC'd it then I would lose the latest message. Well, that's not exactly the danger there.
I OK'd the FC message and the messaging app closed, and then I brought it back up and I have 1 single message saved - just that last message, nothing else. All couple thousand messages my phone had been dutifully saving for me for over a year - from the earliest RC releases of Android 1.0 when I got my G1 the night before it was released - all the way through cupcake and donut, all the way through my experiments with using Cyanogen through the month of December - through thick and thin - all of them are gone now from one FC on a seemingly innocuous message.
And, even more oddly - the single message I'm left with doesn't show the sender's contact picture.
Grrrrr... Should have backed up more often I guess. At least I have a backup from a couple of weeks ago when I switched from my G1 to my N1.
So, beware - backup your SMS/MMS early and often if you want to save your history...

Try using handcent app it has pop up built in also.

Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.

uansari1 said:
Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.
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I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?
(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)

flarbear said:
I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?
(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)
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Nope... no reason to switch if you've already paid for MBP. Probably want to start using the scheduled backup now though, eh?

Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?

pjcforpres said:
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
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Thank you. I was wondering the same exact thing. If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . . Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.

pjcforpres said:
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
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The phone keeps up with it quite fine. In the first 1.0 releases it would take a long time to open the Messages app if you had more than a few dozen messages, but they fixed that in one of the earlier releases and so there was no real performance penalty to keeping all messages. By the time I reached enough messages for it to possibly trigger that performance problem they had released the fix. And since then it's been smooth sailing with upwards of 4000 messages.
My question back is - why delete them? I'm a pack rat. I save things, especially when there is no reason to get rid of them. Now, keeping physical things around the home - that can get to be a problem and so there is a cost to keeping everything, but email and SMS - keeping them is essentially "free" (I've never even noticed the storage hit on any of my Blackberry or Android phones) and you never know when you are going to want to go back and say "Actually, you texted me XXX and YYY back in March" just to needle someone... ;-)
And yes, I have a couple of gigabytes worth of email saved on my laptop from the past decade or so too. (Though I do delete most messages at work - anything of the nature of "this weekly meeting will be held in such and such a room" or "Can someone fix the build?" or an automated status message from a server get deleted, but anything with any technical content gets saved...and has occasionally proven useful...)

Mi|enko said:
If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . .
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They aren't "that important". I'm just a data packrat by nature. Storage is cheap nowadays. ;-)
Mi|enko said:
Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.
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I haven't delved into Google Voice at this point, but that does sound like an interesting solution...

I can't imagine why you would want to keep a years worth of sms!
I purge all mine fairly regularly anyway, just to clean up.

I use G-backup to backup my SMS/MMS and call logs to GMail

Fair enough. I am a huge car nut, and have a bit of a pack rat nature as well. So, I have a garage stall filled with spare parts for Volvo 240's, and then random bits from other cars that might be useable on a Volvo 240, or a future planned project car. As well, I have managed to gather a small pile, yes small, of tools.
I just never though SMS would be affected by a pack rat mentality. For me, it is one of the few things I do keep neat and clean. Hell, I am that guy that saves 1 of every different beer bottle he has ever had, and so forth. I got it from my mom, she had 3 giant plastic buckets filled with receipts from who knows how long(at least 15 years!)

I had this happen to me as well and I was pretty pissed. I'm a packrat by nature as well, so this didn't sit well with me. And it seemed to happen in a similar way with me. I was using chompsms and got a new text, read it, went back to my conversation list, and it was the only one in there, and even then that text was the only text in that conversation.
But I guess it was time to start over anyways, but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.

They're just texts, no one cares about them.

midnite23 said:
but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.
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Sms backup saves all your texts to your gmail with an sms tag. It backs them up when theyre received so youll never lose them.

muncheese said:
They're just texts, no one cares about them.
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Clearly some people do.

midnite23 said:
Clearly some people do.
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That's my point.
Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.

Clearly, you've never heard of twitter....

muncheese said:
That's my point.
Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.
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Hello!? Those late night texts are never something that would hold up in court or anything, but they are worth their weight in gold on the "social blackmail" black market...

Large SMS History takes a log time to load

I'm sure I'm not the only one having this issue and just wanted to know you thoughts...
My SMS threads with 400+ are really starting to take a while to open, one of my threads with 600+ takes over 8 seconds before it shows up after I select it (just shows the loading message) and then another 3 - 6 seconds before I can click on the message to reply... Other than deleting the thread, does anyone else know how to resolve this? I find it hard to believe that a 1GHz processor can't handle a thread of 600 messages...
By the way, I have HTX Sense turnes off, I'm running a stock HTC non animated background, only 3 widgets that don't do much, and nothing running in the background (by using Advanced Task Killer @ Fast Reboot).
Thanks You'all for your help!
Rob

Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.

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eddie90000 said:
Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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I just want to say thanks- I've used this program before, but never noticed its superiority until now... it really is much faster and better in every way- now I just gotta figure out how to remove the stock SMS notification so I'm not clearing two notifications for each SMS...
Thanks Again,
Rob

Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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I just want to say thanks- I've used this program before, but never noticed its superiority until now... it really is much faster and better in every way- now I just gotta figure out how to remove the stock SMS notification so I'm not clearing two notifications for each SMS...
Thanks Again,
Rob
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Just open the stock messaging app, hit menu, settings, disable notifications.

Don't take this wrong - but why would you need/want/desire to keep 2000 text messages. Are you in a legal battle and need to document everything?

Keeping messages can come in handy, but I prefer to clear out occasionally, so I use SMSBackup (free app) and it copies all my messages to a folder in my GMail account, so I can still search them if I need to get a hold of something in the history. Not to mention the added plus of looking through my messages from a desktop when I want to find a number or address..

is there a limit on how many messages the N1 can hold?

a few days ago, i got a message when i think when someone sent me a text... i got the message saying that phone hit limit for sms or something... i was like O.O theres a limit? D:
need a way to save texts in a readable format... preferably by conversation/person and not by time received?

I think the messaging app internally has a limit. I've used SMS backup to export and import my messages to XML format when I flash new ROMs. I haven't looked at the resulting XML files themselves, but I'd imagine it'd be fairly trivial to manipulate them into however you want them displayed.

I believe it has to do with the internal mem. When you get that message try installing something you probably wont be able to

The internal messaging app is ****. Or it was back when I used it. Handcent > *

teh_lorax said:
The internal messaging app is ****. Or it was back when I used it. Handcent > *
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Either way they are saved to the same location.
If you install a heap of apps and run down your internal memory, you will also run out of space for Sms, i don't think though that there is a specific amount of space allocated to sms.

There is a limit. When your internal memory is getting low and you will see a SMS spacing low. If there are more SMS coming in basically you can't receive any..
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i tried using SMS backup which backs up SMS to gmail. but the limit is 100 per convo... any way to increase number to unlimited?

I use sms backup as well because I can then reference any text I've ever sent by just searching that thread in my gmail account.
The 100 count limit is not a real limit, it will keep uploading them in chunks of 100 till it gets all your messages. It's just for the initial upload. After that it uploads your texts thru the day in real time so it will never need to come close to the 100 limit.

you must have a lot of apps installed on your Nexus, or be a monster of texting...cos I've got more than a thousand sms in mine, and there's no problem at all.
Could be that you hit the internal memory limit?

RogerPodacter said:
I use sms backup as well because I can then reference any text I've ever sent by just searching that thread in my gmail account.
The 100 count limit is not a real limit, it will keep uploading them in chunks of 100 till it gets all your messages. It's just for the initial upload. After that it uploads your texts thru the day in real time so it will never need to come close to the 100 limit.
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actually 100 is the limit of the conversation within gmail...
I have contacts with hundreds of messages exchaned and those appears as multiple conversations (100sms each one) in gmail...

You could switch to google voice. I've used Google voice since I opened the white box and pulled my sexy nexy out. You can have it send your number out instead of ur Google voice number with text but I switched to just my voice number so I never have to worry about porting numbers and giving a new one out again. Google has more space on there servers than my phone ever will =D
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possibility to disable sms limitation????

the 1000 messages limitation in the atrix is very annoying to me as i have over 3000 sms with my girlfriend and i would like to keep them all, is this a way to disable this stupid annoying limitation???? this is the first time i came across a smartphone with this limitation... tht sucks!!!
tried different messaging apps, message number can be over 1000, but after some time it go back to 1000, very annoying!
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no idea how to change the limit, but grab SMS backup and restore. When you get close to 1000 back them up, move the file somewhere, and clean them out.
honestly though, how many of those old messages do you really need to keep?

OP loves his girrrlfriend, ew that's gay!
jk.. I like using GO SMS. You can backup messages there and apparently you can even disable the native SMS client. I haven't done so because it's not problematic for me, but all in all it's a great SMS program and I believe you can have more than 1000 messages. If not, you can easily and safely back them up.
My only gripe was that in the past you couldn't backup user settings, but now you can. So IMO their SMS app is damn near flawless. I have hundreds, if not thousands of texts from my wife too.

Get a new GF. Problem solved

1000 SMS limitation?
I've imported my 11000 SMS (from year 2007 from Windows Mobile) and those was been accepted from Atrix.
However it seems Atrix becomes instable and very slow with that amount of SMS stored in "text Messaging" application: many times it freeze for 2 minutes and I'm unable to delete a conversation because of timeout (timeout restarts SMS application before it has finished)