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Grrrr! All SMS deleted...

I had all of my SMS messages for over a year saved on the phone. A couple thousand of them at least. Until today.
I was receiving a couple of SMS from a friend of mine and lamenting that the built in messaging software doesn't provide a nice way to see a message at a glance without having to unlock the phone and bring down the notification bar, etc. With my G1 I had been using SMS popup for most of this past year and I liked it, but thought I would just try seeing how it was living with the basic messaging system on the N1 since I got it.
So, just as I'm thinking that maybe I should reinstall SMS popup since the built-in support had me swiping and swiping too much to just check the messages I get a FC on the "MMS" system app. Through the FC screen I could see all the thread of messages and was worried that if I FC'd it then I would lose the latest message. Well, that's not exactly the danger there.
I OK'd the FC message and the messaging app closed, and then I brought it back up and I have 1 single message saved - just that last message, nothing else. All couple thousand messages my phone had been dutifully saving for me for over a year - from the earliest RC releases of Android 1.0 when I got my G1 the night before it was released - all the way through cupcake and donut, all the way through my experiments with using Cyanogen through the month of December - through thick and thin - all of them are gone now from one FC on a seemingly innocuous message.
And, even more oddly - the single message I'm left with doesn't show the sender's contact picture.
Grrrrr... Should have backed up more often I guess. At least I have a backup from a couple of weeks ago when I switched from my G1 to my N1.
So, beware - backup your SMS/MMS early and often if you want to save your history...

Try using handcent app it has pop up built in also.

Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.

uansari1 said:
Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.
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I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?
(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)

flarbear said:
I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?
(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)
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Nope... no reason to switch if you've already paid for MBP. Probably want to start using the scheduled backup now though, eh?

Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?

pjcforpres said:
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
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Thank you. I was wondering the same exact thing. If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . . Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.

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Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
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The phone keeps up with it quite fine. In the first 1.0 releases it would take a long time to open the Messages app if you had more than a few dozen messages, but they fixed that in one of the earlier releases and so there was no real performance penalty to keeping all messages. By the time I reached enough messages for it to possibly trigger that performance problem they had released the fix. And since then it's been smooth sailing with upwards of 4000 messages.
My question back is - why delete them? I'm a pack rat. I save things, especially when there is no reason to get rid of them. Now, keeping physical things around the home - that can get to be a problem and so there is a cost to keeping everything, but email and SMS - keeping them is essentially "free" (I've never even noticed the storage hit on any of my Blackberry or Android phones) and you never know when you are going to want to go back and say "Actually, you texted me XXX and YYY back in March" just to needle someone... ;-)
And yes, I have a couple of gigabytes worth of email saved on my laptop from the past decade or so too. (Though I do delete most messages at work - anything of the nature of "this weekly meeting will be held in such and such a room" or "Can someone fix the build?" or an automated status message from a server get deleted, but anything with any technical content gets saved...and has occasionally proven useful...)

Mi|enko said:
If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . .
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They aren't "that important". I'm just a data packrat by nature. Storage is cheap nowadays. ;-)
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Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.
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I haven't delved into Google Voice at this point, but that does sound like an interesting solution...

I can't imagine why you would want to keep a years worth of sms!
I purge all mine fairly regularly anyway, just to clean up.

I use G-backup to backup my SMS/MMS and call logs to GMail

Fair enough. I am a huge car nut, and have a bit of a pack rat nature as well. So, I have a garage stall filled with spare parts for Volvo 240's, and then random bits from other cars that might be useable on a Volvo 240, or a future planned project car. As well, I have managed to gather a small pile, yes small, of tools.
I just never though SMS would be affected by a pack rat mentality. For me, it is one of the few things I do keep neat and clean. Hell, I am that guy that saves 1 of every different beer bottle he has ever had, and so forth. I got it from my mom, she had 3 giant plastic buckets filled with receipts from who knows how long(at least 15 years!)

I had this happen to me as well and I was pretty pissed. I'm a packrat by nature as well, so this didn't sit well with me. And it seemed to happen in a similar way with me. I was using chompsms and got a new text, read it, went back to my conversation list, and it was the only one in there, and even then that text was the only text in that conversation.
But I guess it was time to start over anyways, but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.

They're just texts, no one cares about them.

midnite23 said:
but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.
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Sms backup saves all your texts to your gmail with an sms tag. It backs them up when theyre received so youll never lose them.

muncheese said:
They're just texts, no one cares about them.
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Clearly some people do.

midnite23 said:
Clearly some people do.
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That's my point.
Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.

Clearly, you've never heard of twitter....

muncheese said:
That's my point.
Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.
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Hello!? Those late night texts are never something that would hold up in court or anything, but they are worth their weight in gold on the "social blackmail" black market...

N1 running a bit slow and glitchy?

not sure whats up...
sometimes it takes a while for message to come up.. or opening a thread... or switching back to main screen message. is it because there is too many texts? or does that not matter?
also sometimes the N1 is a bit glitchy to where ones where i have contacts for in address book, shows up as number without picture... like if i didnt have the contact added... then after a while, the name shows up again..
any ideas?
stock N1 on 2.2.1
*edit* using the advanced task killer doesnt help either.

The messaging app will slow way down if you have a lot of saved texts.

24417 according to SMS Backup & Restore...

I use an app to back up all my SMS's to my gmail (tv.studer.smssync) and then have another app that automatically deletes any over a week old from my phone (com.carrotapp.smscleanerpro) - this one was a paid app, but only like $1

MaximReapage said:
I use an app to back up all my SMS's to my gmail (tv.studer.smssync) and then have another app that automatically deletes any over a week old from my phone (com.carrotapp.smscleanerpro) - this one was a paid app, but only like $1
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what are the links for? does it work for stock N1? $1 is no problem as long as it works well..
how does it back up to ur gmail? can u see it on gmail?
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trying that SMS backup ... omg so slow.. 100 per backup... 24417 to back up.. >_<

It'll take a while, but then you can finally get rid of all those messages in your inbox. I have some 4k messages floating about in my gmail, but only ~100-200 on my phone at any time.
Also, in case you didn't already see, it creates a label in gmail called "SMS" so you have a threaded conversation list view of the messages.

iandroo888 said:
24417 according to SMS Backup & Restore...
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wtf? 24k texts???? Hope you use the voice texting feature, or your fingers might get a little calloused...

MaximReapage said:
It'll take a while, but then you can finally get rid of all those messages in your inbox. I have some 4k messages floating about in my gmail, but only ~100-200 on my phone at any time.
Also, in case you didn't already see, it creates a label in gmail called "SMS" so you have a threaded conversation list view of the messages.
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i guess it not my business, im just curious why you would back up that many sms? why would you keep that many on your phone in the first place?

You can't expect 24k text messages and the phone running perfectly smooth.
Why are you keeping them all and backing them up anyway? Are you really going to sit down and read all of it one day? You're crazy if you do lol. I have about 4k right now and each thread is limited to 200 each. So it probably won't be moving from that at all. If I have to go through anything, I think going through 200 messages would be enough. If you're not gonna read all your texts and stuff, I suggest limiting them. Otherwise, backing it all up will just be a pain

24k texts? That's way overkill. SMS restore and backup has an option to just view your xml backups. If you need to read them again, just use that instead of importing them back to your phone. Messages take up space in the phone's internal memory so it's wise to clean up your messages.
But still 24000 messages? I can already already imagine 10000+ "Okies"...

simms22 said:
i guess it not my business, im just curious why you would back up that many sms? why would you keep that many on your phone in the first place?
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Not at one time, that's my running total in backup (gmail). Like I said, I only have 100-200 on my phone at any given time.

I recommend SMS Backup and Restore by Ritesh Sahu. The other SMS Backup app only backs up your smses to Gmail, which IMO is not practical for 24000 over messages. It takes time and data to upload so many messages to your Gmail.
SMS Backup and Restore on the other hand backs up text smses into a xml file which is much much quicker and easier to handle although 240000+ smses will probably still take up some time. Unfortunately it does not back up MMS messages with pictures though I seldom use MMS anyway.

looks like theres a limit on how much gmail can save SMS's... up to 100 per person.. D: i have some ppl in the thousands on my phone :[

[Q] Text messaging unacceptably slow?

I just got a myTouch 4g, and I've had issues with the speed of accessing text messages. It takes a good 5+ seconds to access a thread to read or respond to texts.
I should probably note that I switched from a Vibrant and backed up my texts with SMS Backup & Restore App, I have about 9k texts with threads of 400+ messages.
Compared to a BB Bold, the time it takes to access messages for me is a deal breaker. I'm hoping that there is something wrong with my phone as I love everything else about it, but I'm strongly considering switching to a Bold within my 2 week return period...
Has anyone else had issues with the text messaging speed??

Never had any issue like that. But I also don't have that many texts. Back up your texts again and clear the phone and try to see how responsive it is when you don't have any saved on the phone.
Also try something other than the stock app to see if that helps
Failing all of that, go to a t-mobile store and try out another mt4g and see if the problem exists.
Hope any of those helps. Sorry to hear about the troubles.
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Amegis said:
I just got a myTouch 4g, and I've had issues with the speed of accessing text messages. It takes a good 5+ seconds to access a thread to read or respond to texts.
I should probably note that I switched from a Vibrant and backed up my texts with SMS Backup & Restore App, I have about 9k texts with threads of 400+ messages.
Compared to a BB Bold, the time it takes to access messages for me is a deal breaker. I'm hoping that there is something wrong with my phone as I love everything else about it, but I'm strongly considering switching to a Bold within my 2 week return period...
Has anyone else had issues with the text messaging speed??
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You're using the stock messaging app correct? If you are, use Handcent. Handcent archives them better, so each thread loads faster. I too have 8,000+ texts.

Deleting them helped somewhat but once a thread has a few hundred messages it starts to slow down.
I'm using the stock app, so I'll give Handcent a try to see if that works. I hope so as I'm starting to like everything else about the device more and more.

Any time I bust more than 500 ish in a thread, or about 2k total it becomes sluggish... I just delete them... its whatever, you can save the important SMS somewhere else. Like gmail
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I think you just have waay too many text.

Handcent helped sooo much, the native app is like molasses compared to it.
It still struggles with a large amount of texts but not as much. To solve that I found the "delete old messages" app, which that clears your texts but keeps the last X weeks.
Thanks for all the help! I'm sticking with android now, as the texting is fast enough.

Stock sms app has auto delete old built in as well
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[Q] Group MMS via stock SMS app issues

So I've got a few friends who use iPhones as well as Android phones and they like to all talk via group text. I wasn't a huge fan myself but I've finally decided to go this route and it's growing on me.
Now here is the issue. When I'm sending one on one to anyone, I've never had a single problem in my house. Service is decent (2-3 bars) but again, no problems. When I'm doing group text (converted to MMS), many times it will just sit there with the little blue circle going round and round. Sometimes it will go through, other times (about 20%) it won't. I've got reception the entire time... but it just sits there doing nothing. Usually I end up copying the text (no attachments either btw), delete the message, then paste and re-send and then voila! - it works.
Any ideas what might be going on? As you can see in my sig, I'm only rooted with CWM, that's it. Is there maybe a better SMS app that would work better with this type of heavy use? I had GO SMS for a bit but honestly I'm not a fan anymore.
Also, is there maybe a way to NOT keep converting every message to MMS because I'm thinking that clearly is part of the issue here. Would love to just keep them as SMS but I fear that group messaging simply won't function that way.

Kadin said:
So I've got a few friends who use iPhones as well as Android phones and they like to all talk via group text. I wasn't a huge fan myself but I've finally decided to go this route and it's growing on me.
Now here is the issue. When I'm sending one on one to anyone, I've never had a single problem in my house. Service is decent (2-3 bars) but again, no problems. When I'm doing group text (converted to MMS), many times it will just sit there with the little blue circle going round and round. Sometimes it will go through, other times (about 20%) it won't. I've got reception the entire time... but it just sits there doing nothing. Usually I end up copying the text (no attachments either btw), delete the message, then paste and re-send and then voila! - it works.
Any ideas what might be going on? As you can see in my sig, I'm only rooted with CWM, that's it. Is there maybe a better SMS app that would work better with this type of heavy use? I had GO SMS for a bit but honestly I'm not a fan anymore.
Also, is there maybe a way to NOT keep converting every message to MMS because I'm thinking that clearly is part of the issue here. Would love to just keep them as SMS but I fear that group messaging simply won't function that way.
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Have you taken the OTA? I'm just wondering as the stock app works great for me. Go sucks because of all the add ons they added last year.
No, because Group MMS is an MMS. It is not an SMS.

Stock rom for me in the texting app was always slow to me and I had issues... I also do HEAVY group chats (2 or 3 groups) throughout the day. Best I found so far is the AOSP Messaging app. (SMS app included in CM10.1 and all AOSP Roms). Theres a port of it for Touchwiz but it doesn't work right when receiving group text from iPhone currently for some reason.

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Have you taken the OTA? I'm just wondering as the stock app works great for me. Go sucks because of all the add ons they added last year.
No, because Group MMS is an MMS. It is not an SMS.
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Yeah I just got my phone last week and it had the latest software on it. And yeah I kinda figured about the MMS, thanks!
WoodburyMan said:
Stock rom for me in the texting app was always slow to me and I had issues... I also do HEAVY group chats (2 or 3 groups) throughout the day. Best I found so far is the AOSP Messaging app. (SMS app included in CM10.1 and all AOSP Roms). Theres a port of it for Touchwiz but it doesn't work right when receiving group text from iPhone currently for some reason.
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hmmm... I'll keep digging around.
Thanks guys!

A better text messaging app?

What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.

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Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app?
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
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I'm enjoying EvolveSMS a lot. Frequently updated and very smooth. Nice design, a good amount of features and it handles MMS fairly well depending on your carrier.
Google Play - EvolveSMS
The free version is ok but to get the full app and all its awesome extra little features i think its got $2 of in app purchases
Also has backing up to dropbox/google drive and what not

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Chomp
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kylecore said:
I'm enjoying EvolveSMS a lot. Frequently updated and very smooth. Nice design, a good amount of features and it handles MMS fairly well depending on your carrier.
Google Play - EvolveSMS
The free version is ok but to get the full app and all its awesome extra little features i think its got $2 of in app purchases
Also has backing up to dropbox/google drive and what not
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Both of those list MMS issues. But will be trying both.

Jeffrey000 said:
Both of those list MMS issues. But will be trying both.
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I had MMS issues like 3 weeks ago but they have since been resolved and improved quite a bit.
My favourite SMS app so far, offers quick reply popup settings as well plus themes are amazing.
Also allows sliding between conversations and a nice pull out list of convos.
Seriously once you try it i find it hard to believe you'll end up wanting to use anything else.

Handcent sms. Worked ceven w apn issues on sprint mms where others dailee
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Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
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I've been using Hello SMS and I really like it. It's got a different and I think better UI than anything else I have tried.

Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
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If you're a Uber-texter,
Sliding Messsaging Pro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.messaging_donate
Evolve is okay, But it's essentially a pared down version of Sliding Messagin Pro (even made by the same people)--except for the funky UI. It looks nice, but it's wonky to use:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.evolve_sms
Handcent is another beloved SMS app…It's been around for eons and is a favorite around here. It's got every feature a bacon-loving man could ever want…but it's butt ugly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.nextsms
Go SMS Pro -- Essentially on par with handcent. But it has a downside. Even though it's one of the most customizable of the bunch….it takes hours to configure, and even then, just like GO Keyboard, it loves to place big buttons in places you don't want them, and it hides obscure details and features deep within the config and settings….which means that you'll find random numbers and other metadata in your inbox, not really understand what they mean, and then you'll spend the next 20-30 mins trying to figure out how to get rid of them. While this is probably the most-heavily-themed of the bunch, the themes are almost universally garbage. They're unpolished-- the whole lot of them. It's nearly impossible to find a theme that actually skins/themes absolutely everything. Dev's choice of colors, graphics, design is questionable at best. Lastly, the GO Dev team's relentless drive towards integration means that any day now, your app will update and you'll suddenly find out that your SMS app is now your dialer, your lock screen, your camera app, and your flashlight app. Oh…and they'll want you to pay for the "prime" version of every one of those apps-- with GETJAR Gold.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jb.gosms
Other options:
Hangouts now integrates SMS into your Hangouts inbox.
ATT Messaging App-- will integrate voicemail, SMS, MMS, and a few other things like account notifications into a single box for you…which is really, really nice…but the app is also really, really ugly.
There are also apps like SMS Popup which will give you the chance to respond to an incoming message via a notification action or popup.
Lastly, you can just find a AOSP SMS app, configure it, and then theme it with XPosed's XTheme.
Good luck.

Textra
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I can't read jamesboy's post, but I think I see a link to a klinker app... Sliding Messaging. Great texting app imho. MMS was a problem until very recently with it, but that appears to be fixed.
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Try the sms app 8sms