[Q] SafeStrap uses up internal memory - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When i create slot and load rom reboot my internal shows full is there a fix for this or what am i doing wrong

From what I have read, once SS is installed internal sd gets improperly reported. Looking in a file manager will give you an accurate idea of how much space you have left.
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Yep, only way around I've seen is to flash on the stock slot. That's what I did and haven't had any issues.
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It is but it's ok
With Safestrap, when you create a slot it artificially creates a large "file" like a partition for use on the internal drive. With that it segments into the three parts. Data, system, cache. When you install a rom on that slot it is placed in this designated space. The size of the selection you make at the creation of the slot will determine how much apps you can install. So when you activate a slot, Safestraps runs everything from that "partition." In regard to our situation, we are stuck with stock rom deviations so it is like duplicating the same large system over again for each slot. That's why it eats up large chunks.
***WARNING***: Never touch or alter the stock rom slot. This is fail safe fall back in case something messes up on your custom rom slot. Sometimes you have to switch to it to get the kernel to activate something like gps, wifi, radio drivers. Plus I have had a few instances where I install a rom and it doesn't work properly. With my back against the wall because I have to go to work, I just switch to the safe slot and use it for work. I only put the "must have" apps on so it is minimally altered.

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With my back against the wall because I have to go to work, I just switch to the safe slot and use it for work. I only put the "must have" apps on so it is minimally altered.
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correction to above (just for this one word... the rest of the concept is correct)... you switch to the "unsafe" slot and use it for work... stock slot is the unsafe place to flash... you want to keep that untouched... slot 1/slot 2/etc, are the safe slots to go nuts and brick your slot.
look at the color of the text when you select your slot
stock slot ... red means stop ... you are on the unsafe side of safestrap... don't make changes here unless you are experienced and ready to take some time to odin your way out of trouble
slot 1/slot 2 etc... green means go ... you are on the safe side of safestrap... go nuts... you always have a quick and easy way out with recovery and reboot to stock slot
And yeah... about the memory thing... when you flash a rom in a slot... and then check your storage in settings ... it looks full only because the slot is small and you are only looking at that partition ... use root browser or something similar to check your actual free memory from any slot... it's not a glitch or a problem or a situation where all your memory is used up... it's supposed to be that way so you know when your rom slot (slot 1/slot 2 etc...)is getting full... and you're rooted so you have access to whatever you need to look at whenever you want.
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You can see in the above pics taken a few minutes apart... the top pic shows a huge purple bar having 33Gb as misc. ... that's the part of your system that the rom can't see because you are in the slot 1 partition... then if you check it in root browser you will see it's actually 12Gb free memory... (keep in mind I have some huge HD movies and a few roms in my phone , that's why I only have 12Gb free)

Thanks yall! I installed SS last night and ROM'd this morning and noticed this and was like holy crap! I somewhat remember reading of others talking about it but again thanks for the detailed description.
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Thanks yall! I installed SS last night and ROM'd this morning and noticed this and was like holy crap! I somewhat remember reading of others talking about it but again thanks for the detailed description.
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i understand that the system doesn't see the space because of safestrap. but how do i override this so that i can continue to install the apps i want?

No way to override... When you create the ROM slot... choose the largest data partition at 4GB... move apps you don't use often to sdcard...
Don't understand how anybody can be using over 4GB for apps but to each their own... maybe contact hashcode about upping the limit on ROM slots to be more customizable for those only using one or two slots?

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How to install Froyo 2.2 that works with out a computer & w/ out bricking your phone

How to install Froyo 2.2 that works with out a computer & w/ out bricking your phone
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I took the time to write this up because i know how frustrating it can be to brick your phone it has happened to me before trying to update it but I've learned how to flash my phone & done it successfully more then 5 times so far so read this careful before trying it out.
you can install this update with Rom Manager worked perfect for me I've installed 3 of Eugene's Froyo updates with this method just make sure you are rooted first & running kernel 2.6.32.9
or use this kernel here below
Vibrant Kernel Back Support for new Builds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796425
Download Eugene's Froyo 2.2 Macnut update from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820414
here's a step by step on how i did it
1. make sure to back up all your applications first! I used App Saver FREE application from the market. Open App Saver run it & save your applications this app will save them to the internal SD card so look for the folder called app saver copy & paste it to your External SD card using Astro File Manager FREE application on the market.
2. download macnutR5 update to your phone
3. remove external sd card once you back up your applications
4. install paid version of rom manager
5. open rom manager click on the first option flash clockworkMod Recovery choose Galaxy S Vibrant hit allow on super permissions then click ok.
6. click on install ROM from SD card
7. go to your download folder & point it to the MacnutR4 zip folder hit install
8. optional choose back up current Rom & clear date & cache but no necessary
then let it do its thing it might take 3-5 minutes to finish the update i noticed the update went faster when i plugged the phone to a power outlet.
note 1: this update will delete your apps and you will have to start from scratch but if you back up your apps with App Saver you will be fine read step 1.
note 2: once your done make sure to go into settings mobile networks then network mode and choose WCDMA ONLY! if not you will have 3G problems.
enjoy FROYO!
I'm loving froyo running flash 10.1 watching my NFL games from my phone!
is jit working on the newer froyo roms?
If you click on the link to the ROM you would have read:
~ Working jit ( 14 MFLOPS is about all we get.. 16 ish if overclocked to 1.2Ghz)
GPS still not working in Froyo ROMs for vibrant.
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I've NEVER removed a memory card to flash, any real reason for adding that step in your guide?
GPS issues should be stated, agreed ^
You should remove your SD card because some ROMs have bugs and have the tendency of wiping it clean.
So what's the purpose of the Kernal? You didn't mention what to do with it.
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You should remove your SD card because some ROMs have bugs and have the tendency of wiping it clean.
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In near 3 years I have never heard a developer say to take out your sd card, and I've never heard anyone lose the data on their sd card....
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In near 3 years I have never heard a developer say to take out your sd card, and I've never heard anyone lose the data on their sd card....
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I've had my SD card wiped before. But it wipes the internal card, not the external so removing that wouldn't do much good.
I'm more intrigued at how you are watching NFL games on your phone!? Link?
^ froyo = flash - sites like atdhe.net work... the nfl app is pretty sweet too.
^^ right, that was my whole point... removing the external sd card seems pointless, hence why I spoke up.

What I learned about upgrading to a 16GB SD Card

What To Know When Getting a Bigger SD Card I found out the hard way after getting a 16GB PNY Class 10 card for my x10. I had my backups and all that. I copied from the old card to the new one. Then things began acting odd. process.android.media error was really bothering me on startup. So I looked around and found a few suggestions, like clear data drom download manager and media storage. These didnt help at all. I got to looking around under the app management, because I noticed a few app shortcuts were gone. So it was a step in the right direction. I clicked the on SD card tab, started scrolling and said well the last app I moved was this... so I clicked it and went to move it back to the internal memory. It errored out and said something to the effect it was not installed. I went on a witch hunt from that point forward. Apparently Gingerbread will let you know something is amiss. It will have a generic icon and or a checkmark next to the app. I figured thus far the ones with a checkmark could be moved, the ones with a generic icon, were missing and therefore I had to click on each one and uninstall. After doing this all was well. As I really didnt want to move every app back to the internal storage, besides I would have ran out of room too.
The first mistake I realized I made was that, I should have busted out the sd card reader. I was doing this at my mothers and said well its easier. No... Because of the swapping and therefore powercycling the x10. The os scanned or tried to load some apps. There is where it all started going downhill. I thought well I am staying on the same rom, whats the harm.
Important steps / tips I learned.
1. Use a card reader, to transfer all files from old to new card. This also helps with making sure you have a backup too.
2. Consider uninstalling all apps from sdcard, or move them. Depending on situation. I use Titanium Backup & My BackUp Root, so I opt for uninstalling them.
3. Restore your uninstalled apps, or move them back afterwards.
4. Find an app or script to verify all apps are installed correctly? (Dont know if it exists) Otherwise launch each one or verify there are no missing icons or checkmarks present.
Now on to the new adventure of partitioning. I have came across some tips here and there. None really all that dramatic. I am still looking for a guide/line for setting up more than 2 partitions. This is how I have my desktop, but android is a little different. So far I have learned that if you use a Mac, you should bootcamp, dualboot, VM, or boot a linux cd for partitioning. I have not found the right app or terminal commands to make it easier to do. Perhaps I need a better rom. I am fairly happy with zmodv3 hotfix 3. I also think the unlocked bootloader is a blessing and a curse (kernel hell). I still like the CM based ROMS, but am thoroughly turned off by all this MIUI stuff. I may own a Mac, but think iphones are shaat.
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Suggestions and links are welcome. Please no flaming or bashing about what I have wrote. We all know about opinions.... Besides I have to sart posting sooner or later.
After some more tinkering 11/11/11- I have discovered that there is an issue with xrec 0.3gb ready, on zmod hotfix3. If you use xrec to make a full backup after reboot there is that error again. This can be resolved by clearing market and storage data. It works fine via CWM 4or5 recovery.
Thanks from this, I'm about to order a newer card off eBay.
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I just got myself a new card yesterday and I just backed up using titanium, then copied everything to the new card, then do a fresh install of my rom (CM nightly).
This Info was very helpful. Thanks
Can I use a 32GB sd-card partitioned as 2x16GB?
Thanks you, this information help me alot.
krecha-one said:
Can I use a 32GB sd-card partitioned as 2x16GB?
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There are a few guides on that. Use windows or a linux based boot cd. Make 2 partitions and they must be primary fat32 (safest). It depends on the phone really. Have not used a 32GB, allot say it works fine and some out there say no. If you need exact walkthru just google it.
aR_ChRiS said:
I just got myself a new card yesterday and I just backed up using titanium, then copied everything to the new card, then do a fresh install of my rom (CM nightly).
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I am not very happy with my rom right now, will be changing. But that is a good Idea to reinstall the rom. I just didnt want to wipe everything for a rom Im not real happy with. I had to get a bigger card to make a backup with. The shuffling from x10 to desktop was really bothersome.
can the
can the x10 go upto 32gb?

Help me clean my phone

I am super anal about not having crap I dont need so I want to go in and all I want to save is my pics and my apps, I want to get rid of anything I dont need without deleting pertinent files. Can anyone help? If this has been posted please direct me to that post i cant seem to find anything. Thanks alot!!!
+1, I have the same question.
I know there is an option for formatting the SD card in settings. But I wonder if there are additional steps to complete this without harm. It would be nice if anyone can provide step-by-step instruction of how to do this.
So, you want to delete useless folders on your SD card? Most of them are used by Android, if you delete them, they'll come right back.
i noticed that a lot of the folders are for apps I no longer have so I went ahead and deleted those. I also had 6 backups for ROMS so i deleted 4 of them. After that I moved pics to my laptop and now I am only using 2 GB, removed tons of space!!
I covered this in one of my guides....
what I would do:
backup ANY/ALL things to my PC.
go to settings and unmount/format both internal and external sd cards
ODIN to JFD
move my update b and rom of choice to root, flash....
then move any important files back afterwards.
Phone always felt a lot smoother getting rid of the gunk from day to day stuff.
Thanks, I'll do that too!
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I covered this in one of my guides....
what I would do:
backup ANY/ALL things to my PC.
go to settings and unmount/format both internal and external sd cards
ODIN to JFD
move my update b and rom of choice to root, flash....
then move any important files back afterwards.
Phone always felt a lot smoother getting rid of the gunk from day to day stuff.
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Yes, but you are still relying on the user KNOWING what is important and what isn't.. If all they have that matters to them is videos, pictures, and music, they can just copy those, follow your instructions, and copy back anything that they deleted they may have needed..
In my opinion, if SPACE is what you want, this app is by far the best. DiskUsage shows you a visual representation of how your space is taken up. This pic may show it better:
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From there, you either just click or long press on a folder or file you don't want, delete it, and move on. I love it so much because it is like a program I use on my mac called disk inventory X, which is what I used to scan my phones SD until I found that app. I wish there was a windows equivalent.
If you are anal and just sick of having a ton of folders you don't need that aren't really taking up space, I haven't found a better solution than figuring out what the files in that folder are for, or doing what s15274n recommended and starting fresh..
Then again, when a rom TRULY gets stable for me, wiping and reflashing will usually get me different results(suddenly worse battery life, or something doesn't work, etc), and I'll have to restore a nandroid. I typically only wipe and reflash if I have a problem with the way it runs.
This is the way I do it:
1. copy all personal files (music, pictures, etc.) to computer.
2. Flash JFD.
3. Format SD card.
4. return all personal files.
5. redownload apps.
You can also backup all your apps and copy the titanium backup folder to computer. That way you don't have to redownload your apps.
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God... I wanna do this but I don't want to flash back to jfd too much of a hassle I'm on ics
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God... I wanna do this but I don't want to flash back to jfd too much of a hassle I'm on ics
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I'm too lazy to do this too. But there's really an improvement in speed when I do this.

[Q] Nexus System Partition Size

Hi, I'm not sure if this is specifically a Nexus question or a general Android question but I have both a Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and have observed the same behaviour on both
I have posted in the General section with nor response so now I'm posting on specific forums
Basically what's happening is when I delete stuff from the SDcard the free space seems to be allocated to the system partition WTF?!
Take a look at the screenshots I'm going to try a couple of things - one of the suggested things was clearing the data in the Google Services Framework data >> Settings - Apps - All - Google Services Framework - Clear Data - which freed up some of it but not all, the next thing from here for me would be to flash the factory images again and see what I start out with
Both devices are on CM10.1 if that helps, is anyone else is having the same issue??
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Ok so this is my partition sizes now after flashing the factory images back onto my nexus 7. No where near 5GB anyone have any idea what's causing this?
I am guessing you have a couple of CWM back up? Maybe 3-4 of them? Maybe you tried to delete some of them?
Buggy CWM Recovery. Especially if you still hang on to the older versions. Mostly because the way CWM save the backup files.
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I am guessing you have a couple of CWM back up? Maybe 3-4 of them? Maybe you tried to delete some of them?
Buggy CWM Recovery. Especially if you still hang on to the older versions. Mostly because the way CWM save the backup files.
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I just use TiBU and DataSync now, stopped doing nandroids a while back now
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It's not "system data" for sure. It's some apps with root permission saving its file to locations it shouldn't be doing.
Some how l still think it is CWM, even as you stopped using it in a distance past (which is like 1-2 months ago). I recommend flashing newest CWM and see if there're still old back up files.
If you still can't find anything, try this
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If you are rooted and have adb set up on your computer, you can find out what folders are using the most space by using the commands below, then change into that directory and run the command again.
Code:
adb
su
cd /
du -hd 1
--find the largest folder and change directory (cd) into it - if you find you no longer want to continue in the folder you are in, you can cd .. to get to the previous folder or cd / to get back to the root of the filesystem--
Code:
cd large_folder
du -hd 1
rinse
repeat
????
profit
This will allow you to find what folders are using the most space and can eventually lead you to any large files and can then let you find out if you can delete them or if you need to keep them.
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isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
-- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google
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so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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I wish that was the case but it not, the space goes to the system partition and I cant access it on the sdcard

System storage growing out of control

Any idea of how to fix this? I am safe strapped running Hyper drive.
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Any idea of how to fix this? I am safe strapped running Hyper drive.
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It has to do with the partitions. You can check ur correct storage by going into file explorer
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Life saver because I was just going nuts. Finally I can go back to watch the Pats/Broncos
Here is something I've done just FYI. I am running Beans build 2 and I've been tinkering with different things. Once I've seen that everything has been running good and I have everything flashed that I like then I made a nandroid and then I flashed it on my stock ROM slot. Once I did that I still noticed that I only had 4gb left on internal, I went into ROM slot 1 and deleted, not just wipe. Same on ROM slot 2. I now show 14gb of internal memory thru my standard settings. Everything is still running fine as well.
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Any idea of how to fix this? I am safe strapped running Hyper drive.
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This is normal. It has to do with the way the partitions are created. First time I seen it I was confused as well. If you boot to Stock your storage space will read normal or as someone else said use a file manager to see how much space is left. Mine currently says I have 2gb of free space left when I have more like 20.
Normally this wouldn't bother me... But I am getting out of space errors. Yesterday I couldn't even stream Google music until I deleted the cached data.
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I took a capture of my storage and gave some details. The key is to start with a large slot. Think of it as your sandbox. The larger you make it the more you can put into it. If I remember right I did 4 gigs for data. The slot acts like a mini internal drive. It includes the custom rom the apps and data. You could save space by moving apps and downloads to the ext sd card or other parts of the internal drive. The apps would need to be done by normal means in settings so you don't loose functionality. Downloads and other files by way of root explorer.
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Thanks danthepunman.
I bumped my data storage up to 4gb....however, is there a way to get it even higher? I stream google music all day long at work, so my cache is a bit of a space hog. Plus I like to have my phone stocked full of all kinds of apps.
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Thanks danthepunman.
I bumped my data storage up to 4gb....however, is there a way to get it even higher? I stream google music all day long at work, so my cache is a bit of a space hog. Plus I like to have my phone stocked full of all kinds of apps.
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In regards to the size I think that is set in stone. It's larger than what we had in on the Bionic. I would defer that to Hashcode's expertise.
With Google music it says it only uses space as it is available. In the app you can clear the cache or uncheck the cache. If you want to personally delete the files they can be found through root explorer:
/datamedia user 0 comgoogleandroidmusic files music
each file is 6 to 15 mbs. there can delete the select ones you want. If someone was good at scripts you can probably funnel that folder to your SD card.
Hey I found this on Beans tonight . It's in exposed under download section. I don't Know if it will work but you might want to give it a try.
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