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What I learned about upgrading to a 16GB SD Card

What To Know When Getting a Bigger SD Card I found out the hard way after getting a 16GB PNY Class 10 card for my x10. I had my backups and all that. I copied from the old card to the new one. Then things began acting odd. process.android.media error was really bothering me on startup. So I looked around and found a few suggestions, like clear data drom download manager and media storage. These didnt help at all. I got to looking around under the app management, because I noticed a few app shortcuts were gone. So it was a step in the right direction. I clicked the on SD card tab, started scrolling and said well the last app I moved was this... so I clicked it and went to move it back to the internal memory. It errored out and said something to the effect it was not installed. I went on a witch hunt from that point forward. Apparently Gingerbread will let you know something is amiss. It will have a generic icon and or a checkmark next to the app. I figured thus far the ones with a checkmark could be moved, the ones with a generic icon, were missing and therefore I had to click on each one and uninstall. After doing this all was well. As I really didnt want to move every app back to the internal storage, besides I would have ran out of room too.
The first mistake I realized I made was that, I should have busted out the sd card reader. I was doing this at my mothers and said well its easier. No... Because of the swapping and therefore powercycling the x10. The os scanned or tried to load some apps. There is where it all started going downhill. I thought well I am staying on the same rom, whats the harm.
Important steps / tips I learned.
1. Use a card reader, to transfer all files from old to new card. This also helps with making sure you have a backup too.
2. Consider uninstalling all apps from sdcard, or move them. Depending on situation. I use Titanium Backup & My BackUp Root, so I opt for uninstalling them.
3. Restore your uninstalled apps, or move them back afterwards.
4. Find an app or script to verify all apps are installed correctly? (Dont know if it exists) Otherwise launch each one or verify there are no missing icons or checkmarks present.
Now on to the new adventure of partitioning. I have came across some tips here and there. None really all that dramatic. I am still looking for a guide/line for setting up more than 2 partitions. This is how I have my desktop, but android is a little different. So far I have learned that if you use a Mac, you should bootcamp, dualboot, VM, or boot a linux cd for partitioning. I have not found the right app or terminal commands to make it easier to do. Perhaps I need a better rom. I am fairly happy with zmodv3 hotfix 3. I also think the unlocked bootloader is a blessing and a curse (kernel hell). I still like the CM based ROMS, but am thoroughly turned off by all this MIUI stuff. I may own a Mac, but think iphones are shaat.
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Suggestions and links are welcome. Please no flaming or bashing about what I have wrote. We all know about opinions.... Besides I have to sart posting sooner or later.
After some more tinkering 11/11/11- I have discovered that there is an issue with xrec 0.3gb ready, on zmod hotfix3. If you use xrec to make a full backup after reboot there is that error again. This can be resolved by clearing market and storage data. It works fine via CWM 4or5 recovery.

Thanks from this, I'm about to order a newer card off eBay.
Sent from my x10 running TEAM.

I just got myself a new card yesterday and I just backed up using titanium, then copied everything to the new card, then do a fresh install of my rom (CM nightly).

This Info was very helpful. Thanks

Can I use a 32GB sd-card partitioned as 2x16GB?

Thanks you, this information help me alot.

krecha-one said:
Can I use a 32GB sd-card partitioned as 2x16GB?
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There are a few guides on that. Use windows or a linux based boot cd. Make 2 partitions and they must be primary fat32 (safest). It depends on the phone really. Have not used a 32GB, allot say it works fine and some out there say no. If you need exact walkthru just google it.

aR_ChRiS said:
I just got myself a new card yesterday and I just backed up using titanium, then copied everything to the new card, then do a fresh install of my rom (CM nightly).
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I am not very happy with my rom right now, will be changing. But that is a good Idea to reinstall the rom. I just didnt want to wipe everything for a rom Im not real happy with. I had to get a bigger card to make a backup with. The shuffling from x10 to desktop was really bothersome.

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can the x10 go upto 32gb?

[Q] Nexus System Partition Size

Hi, I'm not sure if this is specifically a Nexus question or a general Android question but I have both a Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and have observed the same behaviour on both
I have posted in the General section with nor response so now I'm posting on specific forums
Basically what's happening is when I delete stuff from the SDcard the free space seems to be allocated to the system partition WTF?!
Take a look at the screenshots I'm going to try a couple of things - one of the suggested things was clearing the data in the Google Services Framework data >> Settings - Apps - All - Google Services Framework - Clear Data - which freed up some of it but not all, the next thing from here for me would be to flash the factory images again and see what I start out with
Both devices are on CM10.1 if that helps, is anyone else is having the same issue??
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The discussion on Google+ http://goo.gl/lNyLW
Ok so this is my partition sizes now after flashing the factory images back onto my nexus 7. No where near 5GB anyone have any idea what's causing this?

I am guessing you have a couple of CWM back up? Maybe 3-4 of them? Maybe you tried to delete some of them?
Buggy CWM Recovery. Especially if you still hang on to the older versions. Mostly because the way CWM save the backup files.

KyraOfFire said:
I am guessing you have a couple of CWM back up? Maybe 3-4 of them? Maybe you tried to delete some of them?
Buggy CWM Recovery. Especially if you still hang on to the older versions. Mostly because the way CWM save the backup files.
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I just use TiBU and DataSync now, stopped doing nandroids a while back now
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It's not "system data" for sure. It's some apps with root permission saving its file to locations it shouldn't be doing.
Some how l still think it is CWM, even as you stopped using it in a distance past (which is like 1-2 months ago). I recommend flashing newest CWM and see if there're still old back up files.
If you still can't find anything, try this
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If you are rooted and have adb set up on your computer, you can find out what folders are using the most space by using the commands below, then change into that directory and run the command again.
Code:
adb
su
cd /
du -hd 1
--find the largest folder and change directory (cd) into it - if you find you no longer want to continue in the folder you are in, you can cd .. to get to the previous folder or cd / to get back to the root of the filesystem--
Code:
cd large_folder
du -hd 1
rinse
repeat
????
profit
This will allow you to find what folders are using the most space and can eventually lead you to any large files and can then let you find out if you can delete them or if you need to keep them.
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isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
-- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google
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so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card

noobdeagle said:
isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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I wish that was the case but it not, the space goes to the system partition and I cant access it on the sdcard

[Q] SafeStrap uses up internal memory

When i create slot and load rom reboot my internal shows full is there a fix for this or what am i doing wrong

From what I have read, once SS is installed internal sd gets improperly reported. Looking in a file manager will give you an accurate idea of how much space you have left.
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Yep, only way around I've seen is to flash on the stock slot. That's what I did and haven't had any issues.
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It is but it's ok
With Safestrap, when you create a slot it artificially creates a large "file" like a partition for use on the internal drive. With that it segments into the three parts. Data, system, cache. When you install a rom on that slot it is placed in this designated space. The size of the selection you make at the creation of the slot will determine how much apps you can install. So when you activate a slot, Safestraps runs everything from that "partition." In regard to our situation, we are stuck with stock rom deviations so it is like duplicating the same large system over again for each slot. That's why it eats up large chunks.
***WARNING***: Never touch or alter the stock rom slot. This is fail safe fall back in case something messes up on your custom rom slot. Sometimes you have to switch to it to get the kernel to activate something like gps, wifi, radio drivers. Plus I have had a few instances where I install a rom and it doesn't work properly. With my back against the wall because I have to go to work, I just switch to the safe slot and use it for work. I only put the "must have" apps on so it is minimally altered.

danthepunman said:
With my back against the wall because I have to go to work, I just switch to the safe slot and use it for work. I only put the "must have" apps on so it is minimally altered.
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correction to above (just for this one word... the rest of the concept is correct)... you switch to the "unsafe" slot and use it for work... stock slot is the unsafe place to flash... you want to keep that untouched... slot 1/slot 2/etc, are the safe slots to go nuts and brick your slot.
look at the color of the text when you select your slot
stock slot ... red means stop ... you are on the unsafe side of safestrap... don't make changes here unless you are experienced and ready to take some time to odin your way out of trouble
slot 1/slot 2 etc... green means go ... you are on the safe side of safestrap... go nuts... you always have a quick and easy way out with recovery and reboot to stock slot
And yeah... about the memory thing... when you flash a rom in a slot... and then check your storage in settings ... it looks full only because the slot is small and you are only looking at that partition ... use root browser or something similar to check your actual free memory from any slot... it's not a glitch or a problem or a situation where all your memory is used up... it's supposed to be that way so you know when your rom slot (slot 1/slot 2 etc...)is getting full... and you're rooted so you have access to whatever you need to look at whenever you want.
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You can see in the above pics taken a few minutes apart... the top pic shows a huge purple bar having 33Gb as misc. ... that's the part of your system that the rom can't see because you are in the slot 1 partition... then if you check it in root browser you will see it's actually 12Gb free memory... (keep in mind I have some huge HD movies and a few roms in my phone , that's why I only have 12Gb free)

Thanks yall! I installed SS last night and ROM'd this morning and noticed this and was like holy crap! I somewhat remember reading of others talking about it but again thanks for the detailed description.
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Thanks yall! I installed SS last night and ROM'd this morning and noticed this and was like holy crap! I somewhat remember reading of others talking about it but again thanks for the detailed description.
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i understand that the system doesn't see the space because of safestrap. but how do i override this so that i can continue to install the apps i want?

No way to override... When you create the ROM slot... choose the largest data partition at 4GB... move apps you don't use often to sdcard...
Don't understand how anybody can be using over 4GB for apps but to each their own... maybe contact hashcode about upping the limit on ROM slots to be more customizable for those only using one or two slots?

[Q] Storage issues

Nexus 4, rooted, CM, gravity box.
I want to update to CM11 M6 but I can't get my phone to make a nandroid (using ClockworkMod) because I keep getting an error basically saying I have insufficient storage. These are the steps I take:
Backup using titanium
Go into recovery
Backup using ClockworkMod
It's at this point where it lists backing up the system, but then it gets hung up backing up the data card. I have tried to go back in and delete everything I could possibly think of (w/out wiping the whole thing) but to no avail. I have cleared my cashe and even deleted the titanium backup which was around 1gb and still no dice.
Attached are some screenshots that may be helpful. There has to be something hidden but I just don't know where to look for it. I tried to install DiskUsage but I can't since I don't have enough room. How do I clear up this phone?! Any help would be much appreciated!!
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Nexus 4, rooted, CM, gravity box.
I want to update to CM11 M6 but I can't get my phone to make a nandroid (using ClockworkMod) because I keep getting an error basically saying I have insufficient storage. These are the steps I take:
Backup using titanium
Go into recovery
Backup using ClockworkMod
It's at this point where it lists backing up the system, but then it gets hung up backing up the data card. I have tried to go back in and delete everything I could possibly think of (w/out wiping the whole thing) but to no avail. I have cleared my cashe and even deleted the titanium backup which was around 1gb and still no dice.
Attached are some screenshots that may be helpful. There has to be something hidden but I just don't know where to look for it. I tried to install DiskUsage but I can't since I don't have enough room. How do I clear up this phone?! Any help would be much appreciated!!
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You need at least 3GB of free space to make CWM able to create backup... but you won't find that backup in /sdcard/cloclworkmod folder it's in /storage/emulated/blablabla or something like that and you won't be able to get access there from your computer

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You need at least 3GB of free space to make CWM able to create backup... but you won't find that backup in /sdcard/cloclworkmod folder it's in /storage/emulated/blablabla or something like that and you won't be able to get access there from your computer
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Ok, I'm not sure I understand. I'm in the emulated folder and went into the clockworkmod folder and keep descending and come to just 1 file that is just 7.63mb called "recovery-clockwork-....img". This can't be the solution, can it?

try in /storage/emulated/legacy/clockworkmod... or flash TWRP instead of CWM... if both won't help then you can try to make a backup with toolkit for PC, for example Wug's toolkit

Twrp is showing the backup size and a poseibility to compress it. You probably have much apps or there is some .something fokder what is using much or much cache just like on an desktop. Many things can cause it.
You may want to checkout what is using so much by deleting old folders from old apps or old things yiu dint use anymore.
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Did I lose all my pictures? Urgent help please

Hello everyone I have a Mi9T non pro. I tried to install a custom rom, Resurrection Remix.
Long story short it didn't work so I had to flash back the stock MIUI.
But the problem is nothing is showing up ie Images even though I never select to wipe my internal storage.
Now all of the files on my phone have random garbled text however it shows that my phone only has 30 gb there so there is something taking up the space?
Ive attached screenshots of what its like. Please help all of my photos were on there.
is it because I didnt flash DFE?
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Always backup...
They may be recoverable but if so it will be a bloody mess. The indexing system is gone.
They will exist only as jpeg files, the exif files are separate and juxtaposed in the sea of data.
That's best case...
Don't boot that phone until you're ready to attempt a recovery as it may overwrite more of what's is left if there's anything left.
Personally I would have written them off already... for the sake of my sanity.

Hello, thank you.
I do accept that my photos are virtually certain to be gone as a result of my own stupidity and I will never attempt to mess with my phone again.
That being said how would I attempt a recovery?

kommanderkilo said:
Hello, thank you.
I do accept that my photos are virtually certain to be gone as a result of my own stupidity and I will never attempt to mess with my phone again.
That being said how would I attempt a recovery?
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Is it rooted now? There are apps out there for that especially if it's already rooted.
Either way I don't have the expertist or experience doing that to guide you. There are members here that do.
I had a flash card with about 100 RAWs from a shoot on it that got corrupted.
Even though I was able to recover them, in the end I just low level formatted the whole mess to get it out of my face. Without the exif files their value to me was greatly deminished. The more files, the greater the mess and the task.
You can pull them up by file type but imagine how many jpegs you have on that phone... you start to get the idea.
More than likely you would need to reconstruct the shooting date, image name, etc from memory for the recovered jpegs. A literal jigsaw puzzle of disjointed data.

kommanderkilo said:
Hello, thank you.
I do accept that my photos are virtually certain to be gone as a result of my own stupidity and I will never attempt to mess with my phone again.
That being said how would I attempt a recovery?
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When changing the ROM, FORMATTING Data is a must (not even just Wipe). There are many guides out there clearly stating that
Obviously, that would wipe Internal memory, hence one must transfer docs/pictures to PC before formatting Data
Now the same. Transfer what was left of your photos (if you think you will ever try to recover them?!) and Format Data - otherwise you will have all sorts of problems with your 'new' MIUI

zgfg said:
When changing the ROM, FORMATTING Data is a must (not even just Wipe). There are many guides out there clearly stating that
Obviously, that would wipe Internal memory, hence one must transfer docs/pictures to PC before formatting Data
Now the same. Transfer what was left of your photos (if you think you will ever try to recover them?!) and Format Data - otherwise you will have all sorts of problems with your 'new' MIUI
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I thought data was just apps and internal storage was the photos?

kommanderkilo said:
I thought data was just apps and internal storage was the photos?
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When you Format Data it will wipe Internal memory, too
Please read, there are general guides how to change ROMs, about the difference between Formatting and wiping, why Formatting Data is required, etc, etc