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I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.
Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".
What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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SirRhor said:
I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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theoreticaljerk said:
I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!
I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
cheatman said:
The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!
Hey Guys,
Ive got a couple of questions.
I bought my N7 like 3 weeks ago and enjoyed it alot.
But after the 4.2 Update i'm kinda dissapointed. Due to the reason that i dont want to do a fullwhipe because ive got like 5 gigabyte of Games and Apps that i dont want to install again(meh slow internet) i wanted to know if one of the currently available custom Kernels will give me the great n7 4.1.2 expirience back.Also the gaming performance in Games like Spiderman or Asphalt 7 is really bad, not even close to 60 fps (i think so ^^)Or you would you suggest me doing something else like flashing one of the 4.2 Custom Roms (Cleanrom etc.).
I really like the tooglebar so dont really want to go back to 4.1.2. Any other suggestions are also allowed .(Note: My question may sound nooby, but i have got my Moto Defy where Custom Roms really increase the performance a lot and so i dont know how it is on the N7)
Gameloft games will not run at 30 fps on our tablet. They haven't optimised them for multi core processors such as ours. However they did plan to fix that since the introduction of the nexus 10 tablet. However its only 30fps all normal games are locked down to that only mad finger games such as dead trigger, shadow gun etc run higher and with fluidity. No kernel is going to fix that. In fact I've had much more success with the stock 4.2 kernel than any other available. Its actually the first time I haven't felt the need to use an alternative kernel.
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Ok thanks
and how about the overall performance, will it increase if I use either one of the Kernels or Roms?
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Ok thanks
and how about the overall performance, will it increase if I use either one of the Kernels or Roms?
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depends on the kernel. some yes, some no.
I know its against the rules but could you recommend the best ones?
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I know its against the rules but could you recommend the best ones?
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me, no. im biased towards one particular kernel
I suggest staying on stock. You might wanna flash a stock ROM. Maybe even try rasbean I've been on a stock aosp built ROM and love it.
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me, no. im biased towards one particular kernel
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You seem to be every other post in that thread, so I would say yeah . Trinity or Franco are the most popular kernels
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To the OP why not use a backup program for your apps/games? Also a Nandroid backup will give you the ability to go back to your current set up if you don't like the change after flashing a kernel/rom.
Before flashing a kernel load a stock kernel you can flash back to.
I agree with the post above that says they are biased on suggesting a kernel. I think a better place to find a good kernel is in the thread for the ROM you want to run. But even better read through the kernel threads.
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So i switched to Cleanrom and Trinity Kernel, didnt improve. I think i have to wait for a release from google.
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I suggest staying on stock. You might wanna flash a stock ROM. Maybe even try rasbean I've been on a stock aosp built ROM and love it.
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I love rasbean, but it just got discontinued for toro. It is pretty stock though
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Hi you guys, I just got my nexus 4 a week ago and rooted it right away.
I have been looking through the list of roms and I honestly don't know which is right for me.
I'm looking for a STABLE rom that knows how to balance battery life and power.
I don't care too much for customization, just a little would be nice (Nothing too overbearing).
It would be if the rom just knew what it was doing, and doesn't need me to constantly tweak things.
SO in all, just the BEST reccomnded rom and kernal combo.
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I am currently running the stock rom, and franco r53 kernel
Slimbean. Stable, no bugs. As for kernels, they all are good. I like trinity and matrix
You will get a lot of different feedback what is the best. In the end it's a matter of taste.
atm I like AOKP with faux123 kernel. I heard the Minco Rom which comes with franco kernel should be very stable and smooth. And this rom and kernel where developed and supposed to work together:
"Welcome to the cross collaboration between myself & Francisco Franco.
We're proud to announce the first and ONLY Franco supported ROM. This ROM has been built from AOSP Jelly Bean."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061573
I don't know if you already know this "index"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
try some of the AOSP ROMs and see what's best for you. Since there is no best combo for everyone.
Try EVERYTHING! Every phone is different as is every person.
I could just go on about how I now swear to Trinity and AOKP, but you'll never really know the answer to your own question unless you experiment. The experimenting is the best part :3
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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Want battery but worried about smooth? Install pimy my ROM and use a fee tweaks here and there ....
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MINCO, really lite
Sorry i didn't make this clear earlier. But i care MUCH more about battery life than performance. I use my phone constantly, wether that means texting or reddit or games. I'm sure the nexus' hardware can more than keep up with these tasks but I'm getting relatively poor battery life.
I'm a gamer I use rasbeenjelly rom and motley b31 experimental. I get better battery life and performance than stock rom.
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I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
newtoandroid30 said:
I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Factory stock rom and franco kernel.
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Slimbean (stable, no bugs) and Harsh kernel (smoothest kernel I've tried so far and good battery life)
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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That's what I'm running right now! :good:
The reason I recc'd SR5 was because I found it faster than SR6. Heck, with Matr1x 5.5ocgpu487 (which itself is marginally faster than Matr1x6), I was scoring just over 20000 on AnTuTu with SR5.
I just benched SR7.2 with Motley b31oc1678, gave a pretty nice AnTuTu score of 20900, which is the same as what SR5 gave. So I'd give a thumbs up to this combo -- it also feels as good as SR5! (Running Trinity 91L at 1728 oc'd would undoubtedly bump that above 21000, but I couldn't tell the difference between running Trinity at 1728 and Motley at 1678 in daily use)
Do have to say that Rasbean Jelly and Trinity 91L was blinding fast, very noticeable in regular use; totally supports the >23000 AnTuTu score. (But I can't tell that big a difference between that combo and Liquidsmooth 3.2, which is unsupported by its 19000 benchmark. Yet another reason why I feel benchmarks are somewhat worthless when compared between entirely different ROMs)
It's all really subjective; objective tests like benchmarks are so confounded that only data mongers like me bother to use them :silly:
With Motleys I get 16000 at 1024
19500 at 1242 but then the increase is negligible. 22500 at 1642 for me.
I have been runing at 1024 and every game is perfect. Undervolted to 650 at 1024
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Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
If home button lags for you, try a different browser.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
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You don't think the Galaxy S5 has good build quality? The Galaxy note was more of a square brick than a phone imo. I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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First off, going back to GB is just silly. Not only will GB been slower than kit kat, it is also ugly as hell in comparison, with half the functionality, plus many google apps need android 4.0+ to get their full functionality.
Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot.
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I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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My trusty old nexus s does not think so.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
Ps2: "Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot", thats the problem, when u use dalvik is slower then 4.3, u need to use ART to get more speed then u had on 4.3
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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MameTozhio said:
Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
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Ace42 said:
Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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neither me dont know why, but yeah, i got better wifi speed(some ppl are complaining that) but lags on screen buttons, and on some simple things like recent apps menu. :/.
Lag is always relative to the individual person. Something that is considered smooth and "lag free" may seem the opposite to someone else.
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I'm using Eco mode on AK kernel and the buttons are near instant. My exact setup is:
AK 132KK + Gnome PKK
Deadline sch, 128
Intelli plug + intellidemand
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To everyone that has lag on Kitkat... have you by chance done a dirty flash?
It was behaving erratic for me too until I started with a clean slate. Backup your data, let the factory image flash do its job and voila, fast Kitkat.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Why would you think it would be fast?
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I want my 2 minutes back. I can't believe this went further then the first post
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GB was not optimized for multi-core CPUs. Would run like garbage.
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Hi,
So I'd like to know if there is a really small rom (meaning by size), that I can flash my GS4 with. Because y'all know the Samsung really messed the GS4 up with bloatware. And BTW in this case I don't care about customization at all. So just a small KitKat-based rom [emoji4]
Thx.
hi
did u find one since u wrote?
if so ... please link!
CM12 roms are generally 250 MB in size. Far smaller than samsungs 1.5 GB rom.
CM11 should have around the 200 MB mark too.
You could also try Slim roms. Slim does mean thin, which I guess means it's debloated.
CM 12
Spoertm said:
Hi,
So I'd like to know if there is a really small rom (meaning by size), that I can flash my GS4 with. Because y'all know the Samsung really messed the GS4 up with bloatware. And BTW in this case I don't care about customization at all. So just a small KitKat-based rom [emoji4]
Thx.
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The smallest and most powerful and lag free of em all is CYANOGEN MOD. The CM12 is sooooo smooth yet so powerful and 0 bloatware. It's like once you install CM12 you unlock your devices true potential. The Rom is less than 300MB
Oh OK guys. Thanks for your replies. Really appreciated.
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