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KitKat is awful

Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Care to share what monumental changes you were expecting? I see a lot of people disappointed by the update, but they don't voice what their expectations were.
You might do well to read the change log: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html. Obviously things like default SMS and translucent nav and status bars won't make it to the Nexus 7, but those weren't really big deal changes anyway. Bigger, useful changes happened under the hood. Lower system requirements and memory management improvements means 4.4 is lighter and leaner. Host Card Emulation means that things like Google Wallet are no longer reliant on a "secure element" in the device. The printing framework means any app can print any type of content using cloud printing, like Google Cloud Print. Immersive mode means nice changes for full screen apps.
Etc., etc. Just go take a look at that change log and come back and say that, "Absolutely nothing changed."

All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Well, except for the loss of the flash plug-in.
I love this update
+ 25% battery life: my previous 7. 5 hours average is now 9-10.
-Another change is the ability to get the translucent bars (with Nova launcher beta)
- I had 2-3 random reboot per week (now it happened only once in the last 3 weeks)
- touchscreen improvement : no more sticky and ghost touch (even if the multi touch issue is still there)
You can argue that it's more bugs fixes and optimization than a big upgrade, it's true. But it's a big improvement for this tablet according to me.
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The S3 Kid said:
All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.
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Uh. What? They dropped support for the Galaxy Nexus, which is only 2 years old at this point. Technically they would have supported it still if TI had updated their chipset drivers, but it is still hardly a 5 year old device. They only officially support the Nexus 4 (1 year old) and the Nexus 7 2012 (1 year and a bit old). If manufacturers like Samsung or HTC choose to support legacy devices, that's their thing, not Google. Google provides the source. Samsung, HTC, and Moto are only supporting their more recent lineups too.
Maybe do some research before you start spouting off on the Internet.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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I'm not happy with that update for other reasons: No sms support (stock) and my vpn stopped working (known bug). I'm reflashing 4.3.1 right now.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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The S3 Kid said:
All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.
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Are you for real? All you're essentially complaining about is the fact that there is no visual changes. The reason there aren't many visual changes is because they didn't include the Google Experience Launcher that debuted on the Nexus 5. I would direct you here for some perspective: http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/can-we-all-just-shut-up-about-the-google-experience-launcher/
Also, people, translucent status bars are available on EVERY NEXUS DEVICE EXCEPT THE NEXUS 10 (due to graphics driver issues). The thing is, the app has to specifically request the translucent bar. The reason the translucent bars don't show up on the home screens is because the other Nexus devices don't include the Google Experience Launcher. The GEL requests translucent bars. The legacy launcher does not. If you want translucent status bars on the home screen, sideload the Google Experience Launcher. Done.
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My favorite part of this update is the Immersion mode for Reading Ebooks & the new 4.4 default Email App.

I think kitkat is one of the most exciting releases since ice cream sandwich but most changes are indeed under the hood and not officially ready yet, like ART but kitkat is an awesome start for a new future for Android.

oldblue910 said:
Are you for real? All you're essentially complaining about is the fact that there is no visual changes. The reason there aren't many visual changes is because they didn't include the Google Experience Launcher that debuted on the Nexus 5. I would direct you here for some perspective: http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/can-we-all-just-shut-up-about-the-google-experience-launcher/
Also, people, translucent status bars are available on EVERY NEXUS DEVICE EXCEPT THE NEXUS 10 (due to graphics driver issues). The thing is, the app has to specifically request the translucent bar. The reason the translucent bars don't show up on the home screens is because the other Nexus devices don't include the Google Experience Launcher. The GEL requests translucent bars. The legacy launcher does not. If you want translucent status bars on the home screen, sideload the Google Experience Launcher. Done.
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Nova launcher and action launcher beta have translucent ness... If you're looking for some see through goodness
Or side load GEL. It's what I'm running on my nexus 7...

lucaurso said:
I'm not happy with that update for other reasons: No sms support (stock) and my vpn stopped working (known bug). I'm reflashing 4.3.1 right now.
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I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.

laur3n.newm4n said:
I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.
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Amen. This is the product of the entitlement people feel toward this stuff. Ugh.
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laur3n.newm4n said:
I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.
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we are talking about the UPDATE.
4.3 -> SMS
4.4 -> NO SMS
That's the point. I lost something after the update.
When my phone battery dies I often use normal sms from the tablet (I've a girlfriend that doesn't have an internet plan because she studies in a foreign country)

oldblue910 said:
Amen. This is the product of the entitlement people feel toward this stuff. Ugh.
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I agree, people complain way to freaking much! First world problems here. I love the update...I've been able to EASILY get every new feature from nexus 5 kit-kat on my new nexus 7 as well. Made the nexus 7 2ndgen that much faster

lucaurso said:
we are talking about the UPDATE.
4.3 -> SMS
4.4 -> NO SMS
That's the point. I lost something after the update.
When my phone battery dies I often use normal sms from the tablet (I've a girlfriend that doesn't have an internet plan because she studies in a foreign country)
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Did SMS support come stock, standard, out of box with 4.3, or did you have to add support yourself?

Yup this update sucks.
- It's faster
- More battery life
- Less services running in the background
Yup horrible on this end.
As for SMS, isn't that integrated into hangouts now? Can tell as just got iPhone for work ?
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The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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wtf are you taling abbout?
wallpappers?
i dont want wallpappers
i want a fast system, stable system and everthing
with 4.4 hv more battery life, using art the system is mutch faster

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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I don't know about worst, but I wish I hadn't updated. Battery is not a big issue with me as I mainly use it at home where I can keep it charged. The printing option is nice but not something that I can't live without. I haven't noticed any increased speed. I am stock so my issues apply to non power users who just want a first rate tablet without having to mod it, which it was before the update:
1. Browsers doesn't automatically fit text to screen like 4.3 did. I now have to double tap.
2. There is a slight stick/lag in browser when scrolling. Before it was smooth as butter.
3. To prevent major lag/freeze, I've had to cut off location services.
4. Touchscreen is sometimes non responsive, particularly the app drawer button. I use Apex (to hide non used apps) but it doesn't seem to be Apex as it also happens with the stock launcher. The only way to get it working again is by clearing default.
5. Not major but I liked the blue status bar icons in 4.3 better than the white.
6. I liked the 4.3 email app better.
7. Loss of flash. I know flash is obsolete, but there are still many websites that still use it and I liked the option of using my preferred video player as opposed to being forced to HTML5.

laur3n.newm4n said:
Did SMS support come stock, standard, out of box with 4.3, or did you have to add support yourself?
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I somewhat doubt it. My N7 LTE came with 4.3 and the "reduced" SMS function. It can receive SMS, same as in 4.4, but i had to install a SMS app to send them. Apart from testing i never used it to send SMS. It's a bloody tablet...

Matrix_19 said:
Well, except for the loss of the flash plug-in.
I love this update
+ 25% battery life: my previous 7. 5 hours average is now 9-10.
-Another change is the ability to get the translucent bars (with Nova launcher beta)
- I had 2-3 random reboot per week (now it happened only once in the last 3 weeks)
- touchscreen improvement : no more sticky and ghost touch (even if the multi touch issue is still there)
You can argue that it's more bugs fixes and optimization than a big upgrade, it's true. But it's a big improvement for this tablet according to me.
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I had the opposite effect, sitting "idle" for 4 hours the battery is drained down to %20, google services was @ 74%, re-booting didn't solve it. Sitting idle with 4.3 it last 5 full days; lastly I really, really liked the way the Staus icon would be blue for secured network, and white for unsecured network, showed up/down too and would turn grayish when your connected but not repsonding....and the blue stood out just enough to catch your eye so that you could tell at a glance what is going on. I dumped KitCrap and went back to 4.3
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I somewhat doubt it. My N7 LTE came with 4.3 and the "reduced" SMS function. It can receive SMS, same as in 4.4, but i had to install a SMS app to send them. Apart from testing i never used it to send SMS. It's a bloody tablet...
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What makes it a bloody tablet? I never had that issue with mine; 4.3 runs like a champ.

Nexus X

I just switched over from a Nexus 5 to the Moto X. For starters I must say the I found he Nexus 5 extremely suitable to my needs (I've used pretty much every single flagship device out there).
I personally think Google has done a phenomenal job with KitKat.
Once I received my Moto X and turned it on, I was greeted with what seemed to be the Jelly Bean launcher but when I checked the firmware version it was indeed 4.4.2.
I used it a few days but found my self missing the feel of KK launcher on my N5.
I then side-loaded the official N5 launcher on to my MX and must say.. To me now this is by far the best phone I've ever owned.
Great Moto X functionality with the minimalist look and feel of the N5. Win.
Give it a try.. I think you might just like what you get.
EDIT: Link to JUSTrollin's post where you can find info on the launcher:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639891
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Crimso said:
I just switched over from a Nexus 5 to the Moto X. For starters I must say the I found he Nexus 5 extremely suitable to my needs (I've used pretty much every single flagship device out there).
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Which launcher is that? GEL? And where did you install it from?
What does it offer you extra?

Yeah more info is appreciated

I think he's talking about this launcher, which works with Moto X without any modification.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/themes-apps/apps-google-experience-launcher-gel-app-t2529594

You can use OK Google now without ever touching your phone.
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Yes, I like the larger icons and the swipe left to google now. I think it should be there stock.

Yeah, I posted in our Theme and Apps section about this same topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639891
I really enjoy the GEL launcher and the phone itself. The combo of the launcher and touchless makes it the best phone I have used to date as well.

Yes it is the GEL launcher. What I did was disable the 'hot word detection' on Google now. Instead, I use the built in voice recognition of Moto X " OK. Google Now". It works better for me that way.
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Updated the 1st post with a link to the Launcher.
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Does using art or delvik effect this
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Wouldn't know am afraid. I'm on Delvik. Haven't tried ART yet.
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Yeah it works on ART too.

dedei said:
Yeah it works on ART too.
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I can confirm after trying it since last night.
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It lacks certain substances to be a true Nexus. Nexus phones are much easier to unlock bootloader, flashing without risking bricking, and much more rom developers.
Currently I'm using my Moto X without root, but I am looking forward to a Nexus phone that have touchless control.

OK, I've installed it, but I feel like I'm missing something. I can't find any settings to this launcher, can't add more homescreens, can't change app drawer orientation. What can this do what e.g. Nova can't? I don't see it.

TheSaw said:
OK, I've installed it, but I feel like I'm missing something. I can't find any settings to this launcher, can't add more homescreens, can't change app drawer orientation. What can this do what e.g. Nova can't? I don't see it.
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You have to hold the home screen to open up widgets and settings but there is also an xposed module for it that let's you customize it more. You have to drag an app to the next screen to make another home screen like an iPhone. It is googles launcher which is integrated with Google now. You can say OK Google on the homescreen and it interacts with Google now, but I mean our phones do that without even having to turn it on.
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I have posted on the nexus 5 threads and have recommended a lot of people to get the moto x. The nexus 5 was a disappointment in my eyes and Motorola should have been the one to make the 5, not lame LG. I will not buy nexus of LG keeps making them.
BTW, I purchased the n5 on release date and returned it after 3 days because the battery was horrible.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
I have posted on the nexus 5 threads and have recommended a lot of people to get the moto x. The nexus 5 was a disappointment in my eyes and Motorola should have been the one to make the 5, not lame LG. I will not buy nexus of LG keeps making them.
BTW, I purchased the n5 on release date and returned it after 3 days because the battery was horrible.
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Supposedly rumors is Motorola will make the new nexus 6 and it will come with the latest 4.5 or 5.0. But I mean there have been reports that the n5 has had so many bugs and Google is suppose to release another update. But its past all the incremental updates like Google usually releases. So it seems like the n5 was a bust a disappointment?
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Supposedly rumors is Motorola will make the new nexus 6 and it will come with the latest 4.5 or 5.0. But I mean there have been reports that the n5 has had so many bugs and Google is suppose to release another update. But its past all the incremental updates like Google usually releases. So it seems like the n5 was a bust a disappointment?
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Nexus 5 had a bad camera. What's really funny is Google had a commercial where a couple run off to the woods in a moonlit night and take pictures in really dark light and the pictures turn out great. Anyone who has owned the N5 know that is not possible. The phone had or has a tagline of "capture moments in epic new ways" or something along those lines. Whatever man...
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0XTJqFLIE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Soldier 2.0 said:
Nexus 5 had a bad camera. ...
It's all about perspectives. The Nexus 5 to me was a bigger bang for your buck than any other phone out there. The camera by no means is absolutely crap nor is it the best one out there. What it is though is a good camera; specially when you consider the price tag. It also has many great things going for it like the form factor, the engine under the hood, the display...etc and not to mention the smoothest Android experience money can buy.
For me personally, it was one of my favourite devices matched only by the Butterfly S and now the Moto x.. again for me..
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5.1.1 Existence has been leaked, what do we want?

So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.

exekias said:
So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.
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probably nothing beneficial for the N6... looks like it's only going to be for the N7 and N9... much like the 5.0.2 release was never "official" for the N6.

If its truly LMY47S, then it is not really 5.1.1.
That has the same build date code as 5.1.

I want faster responding sensors. Auto dimming, proximity sensor for phone calls sped up. Damn thing takes forever! As does auto rotate.

Want a rocketship for blasting off to Mars! Seems my Nexus6 has about everything else!

I'd like my battery to last over 9000 minutes of screen on time.

Three wishes, and none of them for an iPhone, M9, or S6.

Better battery optimization, improved camera and radio, and ability to switch to a dark Material theme.

Performance improvement for Camera, Dialer and occasional dropped frames in animations.

I would like google to unlock the notification led xD
Faster booting up and more options when shutting down.
Screen resolution options.
That's it for now, only had it for 2 days. Still learning about lollipop, I came from an galaxy s3.

Sexy wallpaper

- Notification lights back by default (non-rooted)
- (Better) hardware encryption for faster boot-up

Fix the carkit a2dp crashing when connected to a Bluetooth low energy device. I should not have to put my moto 360 in airplane mode every time I drive my car...
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clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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To you and others in this thread - You're on XDA and many of the feature requests are available in most custom ROMs. "I don't run rooted ROMs" or "I'd like those features to be in stock ROM" will probably be your reply, to which I will say, why are you commenting on a developer / Android customization forum?

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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Why would Google implement something that is unnecessary and could cause problems? There hasn't been any need to close apps for quite a few iterations of android (actually an understatement)

With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.

I just want WiFi calling
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8Fishes said:
With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.
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Well it's using a tegra chip. All other nexus are using Qualcomm chips. Minus the 9 which is also late to the party.

The N6 is already a great device. What would make it stand above the rest is for it to be natively as smooth and lag free as the N5 is and to add some minor battery life improvements.

Good Lock pushed to phone

So yesterday the Good Lock app randomly auto pushed to my phone from the Galaxy app store.
Has anyone else had this happen?
It also replaced the system ui. I was able to open the app and uninstall it, but I get a notification about twice a day saying I have an app to update. Every time the notification is for Good Lock.
Is Samsung forcing it on its users now?
Also is anyone using it ? Does it still negatively effect the battery? Does it remove the theme sort from the phone as well?
Thanks!

Happened to me too. I also uninstalled it, couldn't achieve a look that I like. You can disable the notification from the Galaxy Apps settings menu
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I like it, it's cool imo. The multitask screen looks better.

Hmmm...
At first, I was angry it auto updated/Installed. It.changed everything I was used to. I HATED it!
Then I played around with it a bit, and I can now see some useful features in it. Mostly the lockscreen widgets and the Routines. I'm not a fan of the notification shortcuts though.
Im going to give it a few days to sink in. If I don't miss the old layouts, then I'll keep it.
Just REALLY wish theyd update the autocorrect though. I had to retype many words in this message!
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Still seems strange to just push it on users have not heard them doing that on any other devices so far. Makes me wonder if it will be the stock setup on Android 7.1 for Samsung.

ShrekOpher said:
Still seems strange to just push it on users have not heard them doing that on any other devices so far. Makes me wonder if it will be the stock setup on Android 7.1 for Samsung.
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I think I saw on Sammobile that the Nougat ROM being tested for the S7 has it. I'll see if I can find it.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2016/09/22...y-s7-to-bring-grace-ux-and-improved-features/

I've used good lock mostly on my s6 and a bit while I used the s7edge as a loaner. I actually think I prefer the grace ux on the note to good lock these days but good lock has a lot of features and is always adding user requested features.
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I just checked out the reviews for good lock this isnt an isolated incident. People are really mad, complain their phone now has "girly colors" and threatening to go back to iOS if they don't add the ability to change colors (which you've always been able to do)
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Yeah I tried good lock and it was okay but I couldn't stand the hideous colors in notifications, and it just seemed way too busy. I only used it because I missed KitKat style lock screen music album art, but I found out Samsung music still has an acceptable form of it and I'm satisfied with it.

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Yeah I tried good lock and it was okay but I couldn't stand the hideous colors in notifications, and it just seemed way too busy. I only used it because I missed KitKat style lock screen music album art, but I found out Samsung music still has an acceptable form of it and I'm satisfied with it.
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You can change the colors.

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You can change the colors.
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It's not easily noticeable though. There isnt a very noticeable "colors" section.
I think that's confusing people.
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Took me awhile to figure out how to change colors, buried in the routines menu. And because I use a them already, was even more fun trying to get them to match. I did try it for a few days, but went back to the regular lock screens. Also didn't seem to work real well with AoD.
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been using on my 2 phones for months; i prefer the stock Android UI look as well as the ability to "keep" some of my notifications so i can follow up later. the latest version allows you to further customize the colors (not just dragging the polygons from left to right or vice-versa). takes (me a) little effort to get it like i want it, but i can then backup and restore when necessary. --- i'm a keep it simple/basic user so the less stuff, the better (for me).
also, @nuclearrage, what issues were you having with AoD? GoodLock and AoD are working fine on my devices.

Wow, Wow, Ohh.....

Hi Guys, I've just bought a 6T....12 Hrs ago.
I love it, it gave me a real Wow switching it on.
There's just 3 things niggling me.
1. One speaker? Really? One Speaker?
2. The Clock and Weather Widgets, I can't get them lined up on the screen, also the trademark Red digit is not incorporated into the clock widget and both the weather and clock widgets show the date....!!! So side by side they not only don't align they repeat the same data and don't match.
3. Can't hide apps....would be nice to hide a load of stock apps I will never use.
Apart from those 3 gripes, the phone is amazing.
I absolutely love it and am very, very glad to be part of the OnePlus community.

eskimosound said:
Hi Guys, I've just bought a 6T....12 Hrs ago.
I love it, it gave me a real Wow switching it on.
There's just 3 things niggling me.
1. One speaker? Really? One Speaker?
2. The Clock and Weather Widgets, I can't get them lined up on the screen, also the trademark Red digit is not incorporated into the clock widget and both the weather and clock widgets show the date....!!! So side by side they not only don't align they repeat the same data and don't match.
3. Can't hide apps....would be nice to hide a load of stock apps I will never use.
Apart from those 3 gripes, the phone is amazing.
I absolutely love it and am very, very glad to be part of the OnePlus community.
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Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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treetolber said:
Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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Thanks...yeah I hear you about the speaker but when you are watching a movie all the audio is in on one side....I mean come on it's mono and that went out in the 1960's!!!!

My first oneplus aswell ?. Another tip in hiding apps is that you can store them in the hidden section of your stock launcher. You can do that by swiping up to get to your apps and if you gently Swype from the left corner to the right it brings up the hidden section. One the speaker in with you most times than not I tend to cover it by accident while watching YouTube etc

eskimosound said:
Thanks...yeah I hear you about the speaker but when you are watching a movie all the audio is in on one side....I mean come on it's mono and that went out in the 1960's!!!!
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You can hide apps, open the app drawer, swipe left, you can hide them in there.
Btw there's a dual speaker mod in the app section.

treetolber said:
Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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Dr8ven said:
My first oneplus aswell . Another tip in hiding apps is that you can store them in the hidden section of your stock launcher. You can do that by swiping up to get to your apps and if you gently Swype from the left corner to the right it brings up the hidden section. One the speaker in with you most times than not I tend to cover it by accident while watching YouTube etc
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Dark Nightmare said:
You can hide apps, open the app drawer, swipe left, you can hide them in there.
Btw there's a dual speaker mod in the app section.
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Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....

eskimosound said:
Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.

eskimosound said:
Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Yeah I haven't rooted yet. Just got my bootloader unlock token today. I think I'm going to wait for the dev of some ROMs to catch up a little. To me this phone is perfect as is.
By the way in my earlier statement about the speaker, replace the word summer with single. I got auto corrected.
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Even the phone itself tells you how to hide apps in its default launcher, it pops up just after you open app drawer...

Dark Nightmare said:
Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
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It is amazing, so clean and fast. I've had no stalls, apps download and install in seconds without causing any clitching.
I can have a dark theme on an amoled screen which looks awesome. I think it's brilliant. I've got the international version because I'm UK. I might well root but now I can hide the apps it would only be to sort out the speaker...but that's in the future....I'm more than happy for the time being now knowing I can hide the bloatware.

Dark Nightmare said:
Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
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treetolber said:
Yeah I haven't rooted yet. Just got my bootloader unlock token today. I think I'm going to wait for the dev of some ROMs to catch up a little. To me this phone is perfect as is.
By the way in my earlier statement about the speaker, replace the word summer with single. I got auto corrected.
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Yeah I'm definitely waiting the phone is too good!!
ГАСООП said:
Even the phone itself tells you how to hide apps in its default launcher, it pops up just after you open app drawer...
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I must have missed that...
So do you know why my stock clock widget doesn't have the red digits? Is there an APK somewhere on XDA that can sort it?

eskimosound said:
So do you know why my stock clock widget doesn't have the red digits? Is there an APK somewhere on XDA that can sort it?
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No, sorry, I'm not using stock clock.

Here's mine..

eskimosound said:
Here's mine..
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Don't use the clock widget, search through your widgets for one called "OnePlus widget"

I completely agree with the OP regarding the feeling when using this phone. I had been a long time htc fan but after TMobile stopped carrying it, I was lost because the os experience was severely lacking from the other manufacturers. I'm on jump on demand and I tried fiddling around with lg and Samsung for a little bit but just want satisfied. Finally made the switch to iPhone and was happy for 2 years with apple, however after apple pulled the stunt of increasing prices for subpar upgrade to the iPhone this year, left a bad taste in my mouth and when I saw TMobile will carry the one plus, I decided to jump and give it a shot. It's been a long time since I had the feeling of having the perfect phone and this is coming from someone who tends to change phones every 3 to 4 months due to the freedom provided by JOD. I will be keeping this until the next upgrade from one plus comes out. Plus I got lucky as one of the reps sim unlocked my phone even though I met none of their criteria for unlock in the spirit of Thanksgiving holiday! So a pleasant bonus and now currently waiting for bootloader unlock code for root. The only reason I want to root is due to completely and utterly blocking ads from everything including apps. That is one thing I miss from apple. A lot less ads on the device compared to Android, however that should be resolved soon. This stock os is perfect otherwise! Amazing battery life, extremely fast charging, and buttery smooth! What else can one ask for!

Ryano89 said:
Don't use the clock widget, search through your widgets for one called "OnePlus widget"
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Yep, that's the weather widget it's great and has the red digit.
But there is no clock with the red digit.
There is however a setting for the red digit clock for the lockscreen...so somewhere in the phone is a red digit clock widget!!!

hatlesssandman said:
I completely agree with the OP regarding the feeling when using this phone. I had been a long time htc fan but after TMobile stopped carrying it, I was lost because the os experience was severely lacking from the other manufacturers. I'm on jump on demand and I tried fiddling around with lg and Samsung for a little bit but just want satisfied. Finally made the switch to iPhone and was happy for 2 years with apple, however after apple pulled the stunt of increasing prices for subpar upgrade to the iPhone this year, left a bad taste in my mouth and when I saw TMobile will carry the one plus, I decided to jump and give it a shot. It's been a long time since I had the feeling of having the perfect phone and this is coming from someone who tends to change phones every 3 to 4 months due to the freedom provided by JOD. I will be keeping this until the next upgrade from one plus comes out. Plus I got lucky as one of the reps sim unlocked my phone even though I met none of their criteria for unlock in the spirit of Thanksgiving holiday! So a pleasant bonus and now currently waiting for bootloader unlock code for root. The only reason I want to root is due to completely and utterly blocking ads from everything including apps. That is one thing I miss from apple. A lot less ads on the device compared to Android, however that should be resolved soon. This stock os is perfect otherwise! Amazing battery life, extremely fast charging, and buttery smooth! What else can one ask for!
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Yep it's a great phone....very very glad I made the switch from HTC.
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I still haven't had one glitch or stall!!!
It's been nothing but super smooth...

Hey look at the widgets I've found...

The red digit is only the 1. Anytime a 1 shows in the temperature or time, it's red.

eskimosound said:
Hey look at the widgets I've found...
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Where did you find those?