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I recently bought new tab, it is getting charged normally when plugged in power socket. But when i plug it in laptop USB port or any PC port, it would not charge instead I can transfer data etc. I am using the original USB cable which came in box. Does any one has faced same issue?
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Samsung have engineered it so you have to even use their mains charger. Car chargers and wall chargers have to be Samsung tab brand. Not sure but there is talk of AVUSB charge cable being released. Pretty sure this has already been covered.

Turn off the screen and wifi and data network and it will charge very slowly over usb.
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The fact of the matter is the tablet requires more/not the right amount of power that your USB port can deliver.
We always here all these theories about why.. but here is the simple and only reason why.
To keep the techinical stuff short and simple, Li-Poly and other batteries have a predetermined lifetime and one of the determining factors to how long they last is the rate of charge (charge rate) time and the exact amount of mHa capacity of the battery.
This is NOT a Samsung marketing scheme as it is exactly the same reason the iPad cannot be charged through USB.
I'll give you a quick example:
If you buy rechargable batteries, Ni-Mh that state they can be charged at 2500mHa (capacity/rate) and you charge them on a 15 minute charger that delivers the right amount of power (1.2 volts) and not the correct rate (lets say they are rated for 2500 and you use a charger thats rated for more) this causes the battery life to be deminished drasitcally.
If you charge the same 2500mha batteries with a lower rating charger, they will take a lot longer to charge completely since it is at a slow mHa, but also this slower charging will provide a longer battery life.
Therefore their charger (and this is the reason why you must use their charger or any charger with the same mHa rating) is made to provide the optimal amount of charge rate (mHa) giving you the best battery life vs charge time.
In conclusion the Tabs hardware will limit the rate of charge through USB in order to:
a) Not overload the power on your USB, given that all this varies according to each system configuration (although it should not! but reality is.. it does)
and
b) In order to not improperly charge your tab, reducing your battery life.
I know the technical parts are vaguely/poorly explained but I work with Li-Po and other types so this is the simplest way to explain all this without causing too much confusion.
Hope this made sense
Cheers

tj1984 said:
Samsung have engineered it so you have to even use their mains charger. Car chargers and wall chargers have to be Samsung tab brand. Not sure but there is talk of AVUSB charge cable being released. Pretty sure this has already been covered.
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Not true.
Samsung is using standard chargers that are wired to identify themselves as high current chargers. A non Samsung charger / external battery will likely have the same wiring because this wiring is part of the usb-specification.
The Tab will even charge from your usb-port but only slowly and if you turn off the screen since usb-ports only have 500mA (the charger has 2A).
So all the Tab does is check for this high-power-wiring. If it detects it it shows you the charge-icon, if it doesn't it assumes a usb-connection to your computer and does not pretend to charge (even if it does).

Interesting! So then a generic car cig lighter accessory with a standard USB port on it should charge it as a high output conection, right?

I am able to charge my Tab using usb connection to my PC by turning the device off. Same with an Energizer XP8000 external battery. Leaving the device on will take a long time to charge or not at all if you are using it while charging.

[Q] USB charging current???

I think there is a serious problem with my charging circuit on this phone. I have no idea if its hardware or software that is controlling the charging circuit but I can tell you that it literally takes forever to charge my phone via USB and this is unacceptable from a consumer standpoint.
I wanted to see how much current the phone was asking for and I was really surprised to see 96mA!!!
No wonder its charging so slow, something is really wrong here, and It doesnt look like a faulty battery. The phone should be asking for 10x this much current.
Can some people post how much current their phones are drawing from the usb port?
If you dont know how to do this, in "device manager" double click on the appropriate "usb root hub" that your phone is connected to and click on the "power" tab. Post results.

You are trying to charge your device on a pc correct?
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500mah is the max just about any phone will charge at from a usb port, at least without any modifications like fast charge drivers.

USB current, for charging purposes, is and always will be low. Otherwise you would burn up your motherboard. Alternatively it would let the magic smoke out of your phone and it would quit working properly.
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+1 to the two posts above me. I suggest getting a wall adapter for your usb and charging it there, you will get vastly superior charging times
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Top Nurse said:
USB current, for charging purposes, is and always will be low. Otherwise you would burn up your motherboard. Alternatively it would let the magic smoke out of your phone and it would quit working properly.
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USB current, for charging purposes, should be and always be 500mA. 96mA is not enough to charge one of these phones. You cannot burn up your mother board if the device calls for more than 500mA, as that is all that is available for each usb port.
Ive connected three of my old phones and an EVO and a mytouch Slide, they all ask for the maximum allowed current as they should. I do have a wall charger and it charges fine, Im trying to see if everyone else has the same USB charging problem as me, or if I have a broken phone, or if I just have some bad software on my phone.
Please if anyone can post results it will be helpful.

Hello again,
My G2 is asking for 500ma
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PaganAng3l said:
Hello again,
My G2 is asking for 500ma
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thanks but can you please post results for the an EPIC 4G phone?

Connected to a PC USB port, the Epic 4G will only draw 380ma. Via a wall charger is will only draw 600ma. Hence why charging on a PC is slower. Simple as that.

I also show exactly 96 mA, regardless of which USB port I am plugged into. Practically new motherboard, so I know the USB current isn't an issue. New Blackberry USB cable (far superior to stock Samsung cables).

IIRC, 500ma is the max draw per hub, not USB port. This is why people get powered add on hubs so they can have components that take more draw than a computer USB port will give.
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IIRC, 500ma is the max draw per hub, not USB port. This is why people get powered add on hubs so they can have components that take more draw than a computer USB port will give.
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500Ma is NOT the per 'hub' power supplied, 500Ma is the PER PORT current max. EACH port on the motherboard will supply up to 500Ma, trying to draw more will not work. It won't burn it out, it just won't supply any more than that. If you have 8 ports on your MOBO, you will get a total of 4A of current in total, not exceeding 500Ma per port. If you hookup an UNPOWERED hub to your mobo, the total draw still cannot exceed the 500Ma. If the hub is powered, it will provide 500Ma to each port on it, and draw virtually none from the MOBO.
This is why you see some external devices with dual USB cords, or a single with a Y. This is because it will combine the 500Ma from each port to power the device for up to 1A of current.
96Ma will not charge the phone, it's not even enough to power the phone while making a call.
How are you measuring your current draw? Try other USB devices. Wall charging takes between 2 and 3hrs to charge depending if the phone is on and its current draw for what it's doing.

Top Nurse said:
USB current, for charging purposes, is and always will be low. Otherwise you would burn up your motherboard. Alternatively it would let the magic smoke out of your phone and it would quit working properly.
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Pretty much every USB host device I've used can easily deliver 1A. Most new machines can deliver 2A (such as ASUS boards and Macs) over USB. The Epic still charges way too slowly even off a wall charger. It'd be nice if it drew 1A instead of ~600mA. Most other devices use much higher charge currents when plugged into AC.
As for the Epic's charge current, I think the USB driver on it just reports charge current incorrectly.

Orbiting234 said:
Connected to a PC USB port, the Epic 4G will only draw 380ma. Via a wall charger is will only draw 600ma. Hence why charging on a PC is slower. Simple as that.
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thanks to the two people, that haven't been derailing this thread into a "how usb ports work discussion".
if anyone wants to help instead of arguing over how usb ports work, it would be really helpful to know what rom and kernel you are using when you tested your epic 4g device.
Im especially interested to know this information about orbiting who is getting 380mA. Im also interested in how you measured measured the 600mA from the wall charger.
Its posted at the end of the OP how to see how much current your phone is asking for.

I think the charge controler on the Epic will alter the current draw depending on how close it is to fully charged . Once it gets above about 90% charge the current should taper off. this is to prolong the battery life.
The Normal charging times starting at about 30% is under 3 hours on a wall charger for me. I can go from about 70% to 100% om my laptop in about an hour.

poit said:
I think the charge controler on the Epic will alter the current draw depending on how close it is to fully charged . Once it gets above about 90% charge the current should taper off. this is to prolong the battery life.
The Normal charging times starting at about 30% is under 3 hours on a wall charger for me. I can go from about 70% to 100% om my laptop in about an hour.
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I already know this, and its not what I asked for.

poit said:
I think the charge controler on the Epic will alter the current draw depending on how close it is to fully charged . Once it gets above about 90% charge the current should taper off. this is to prolong the battery life.
The Normal charging times starting at about 30% is under 3 hours on a wall charger for me. I can go from about 70% to 100% om my laptop in about an hour.
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I already know this, and its not what I asked for.
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I appologize for wasting your time, but let me elaborate.
Right now my phone is at 89% charge, and right now the "Power Required" field in the USB root properties is showing 96 ma. I doubt that is an actual measured current, more likely it's what the port controller on the Epic reports as a minimum current required. What I can tell you is that even with that info, my phone charges fine. Seems unlikely that it's only supplying 96ma because I'd expect the phone must draw 40 ma or so just to idle.
What would be more useful would be an app on the phone that polled the charge controller to give us actual voltage and current data. I had one on my old TP2 that was great, but I don't know about one for Android.
Edit: in the time it took to type this reply the State of Charge went from 89 to 92%, yet the properties still shows 96 ma. I think the controller is getting way more than 96ma, so that number is likely bogus.
I guess that wasn't what you asked for either, but maybe it is stilll useful

poit said:
the USB root properties is showing 96 ma. I doubt that is an actual measured current, more likely it's what the port controller on the Epic reports as a minimum current required.
I guess that wasn't what you asked for either, but maybe it is stilll useful
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no need to apologize, I could explain to you why what you think is "more likely" is actually less likely. but it would only further derail this thread. feel free to pm me if you are interested.
all im interested in is three things:
current asked for by phone from pc usb, rom version, and kernel version.
someone already reported 380mA. but i have no idea what software he is on.

I'm running completely stock EB13. On my newer laptop with Windows 7 it shows 96mA in the device manager. On my ancient Dell PC at work running XP, it shows 96mA as well. In both cases I'm plugging the phone directly into a USB port, no external hubs.

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I also show exactly 96 mA, regardless of which USB port I am plugged into. Practically new motherboard, so I know the USB current isn't an issue. New Blackberry USB cable (far superior to stock Samsung cables).
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I'm running the latest Syndicate 1.0.1 with their latest 1.0.3 kernel. My quote above is when I was running Syndicate 1.0.0 and kernel 1.0.1.
If I go back to stock for some reason, I'll post those numbers up too.
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Fast charging..........

Earlier I was nokia N86 user. Charger of that phone is same like SGS2. I charged my SGS2 with that charger. And I got the feeling that it was faster than original SGS2 charger.
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Give us some data on charging timers pls.

Details please....

Ok will give it in few days. I'll start calculating it.
Will u need any screen shots? If yes than how I mean is der any way to calculate time directly on phone?
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i have a nokia n97 mini charger which i use to charge my SGS2. It is indeed faster. But i guess it is because the nokia charger is capable of 1.2 A against only 0.7 A for the Samsung charger. Keep in mind that the voltage is the important number when matching chargers.
Both chargers are 5 V. Having higher A number means the charger is capable of giving out more power (power = V x A), power is energy rate (how much energy per second delivered). That is why Nokia's charger is faster, because it can give enery at a faster rate

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i have a nokia n97 mini charger which i use to charge my SGS2. It is indeed faster. But i guess it is because the nokia charger is capable of 1.2 A against only 0.7 A for the Samsung charger. Keep in mind that the voltage is the important number when matching chargers.
Both chargers are 5 V. Having higher A number means the charger is capable of giving out more power (power = V x A), power is energy rate (how much energy per second delivered). That is why Nokia's charger is faster, because it can give enery at a faster rate
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The question is: is this gonna waste the samsung's battery?

I'm no battery expert but wouldn't samsung have selected the amp level for a reason??

666fff said:
I'm no battery expert but wouldn't samsung have selected the amp level for a reason??
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Yes, Price been issuing an (I think 1amp) old htc charger. Not sure I notice a difference in charge speed, though its possible it still helps when running flash, oced etc by helping power the phone more so the battery isn't picking up the slack and can maintain charging without load. And no more amps can't hurt,a load will pull what it needs (more volts WOULD be am issue) Its like a 1200 watt pc power supply to run grandmas pentium computer wouldn't hurt it, just be under utilized. Make sense?
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Are you surprised it charges faster? I'm socked that my SGSII charger only throws out 700mA.
What are they playing at giving "travel charger" in the box?
The charge speed is directly related to the current output of the charger in use, as long as the phone is designed to accept a current higher than the lowly 700mA the standard one outputs.
With a 1A charger you should get (in theory) ~43% faster charging, assuming the phone and battery can draw that much current to charge.

Let's hope the phone supports this:
In Battery Charging Specification,[38] new powering modes are added to the USB specification. A host or hub Charging Downstream Port can supply a maximum of 1.5 A when communicating at low-bandwidth or full-bandwidth, a maximum of 900 mA when communicating at high-bandwidth, and as much current as the connector will safely handle when no communication is taking place; USB 2.0 standard-A connectors are rated at 1.5 A by default. A Dedicated Charging Port can supply a maximum of 1.8 A of current at 5.25 V. A portable device can draw up to 1.8 A from a Dedicated Charging Port. The Dedicated Charging Port shorts the D+ and D- pins with a resistance of at most 200 Ω. The short disables data transfer, but allows devices to detect the Dedicated Charging Port and allows very simple, high current chargers to be manufactured. The increased current (faster, 9 W charging) will occur once both the host/hub and devices support the new charging specification.
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Would make charging insane.

I didnt understand whatever kani has quoted.
Plz somebody tell me is it safe to charge or not?
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Havent done any test but my old blackberry charger, charges the phone faster. Anything is faster than the stock charger.
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Hmm im interested in this thread, somebody with an electrical background should chime in on if its totally safe or not to use a charger with more current output.
I don't know if you european guys have different chargers than us, this is what mine reads.
input 100-240v- 50-60hz 0.15a
Output 5.0v 1.0A

unleashed12 said:
Hmm im interested in this thread, somebody with an electrical background should chime in on if its totally safe or not to use a charger with more current output.
I don't know if you european guys have different chargers than us, this is what mine reads.
input 100-240v- 50-60hz 0.15a
Output 5.0v 1.0A
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Mine says
"Input 100-240v- 50-60hz 0.15A
Output 5.0v 0.7A"
So yes, guess we do have different chargers

So i guess then NA has the theoretical 50% higher charging rate @ 1.0 A that one other guy was mentioning earlier; i was wondering because i really feel that my charge time on this phone isn't slow at all. Was looking to possibly make it faster even

Me too i saw a quickly charge with n97 charger.
But, with the original one, you gain like 1/2 hours of autonomy.
Quick charger = less time to charge the buttery but less time on battery
Slow charger = more time to charge buttery but more time of autonomy
The best should be charging the phone in offline mode using the computer

Mine says
Input : 150-300vac
50 - 60Hz 0.15A
output :5.0V 0.7A
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And On nokia charger
Input : AC100-240V/50-60HZ/160mA
output: DC 5.0V/1200mA
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I think it should be fine, i used another charger on my old HD2 for most of the time i had it (a year and a half) after i lost the original and never had any issues.
So can someone give a list of what chargers would charge the phone faster than the one that came with it.
thanks

The phone apparently limits the charging current to 650mA no matter the charger. Not sure I'd want to be the one testing increasing the cap though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132649&highlight=Charging

[SOLUTION] Slow Charging!

★★★This topic is for them who are having problems with stock charger and cable. If you don't have any problems, ignore this ★★★
Well, since I purchased my Note 2, I kept facing this slow charging problem. Now what is slow charging some of you will ask? Well, it's simple. The device is taking more than normal time for charging. Now how do you know the default/should be rate for charging? Simple again. The AC adapter clearly says output rate as 2000 mA or 2.0 A. So with that calculation Note 2's monstrous 3100 mAh should be fully charged with 2 hours. But as we've seen steady 2.0A is not the output case in some/many scenario, so add another 30 mins to it. So whatever it is, from 0-100%, the device shouldn't take more than 2 hours 30 minutes.
And for me, it was taking around 5 hours! Sometimes 4 hours 30 minutes, and if it's very fast then 4 hours. Well I was never gonna wait 4 damn hours before going to my office and irritate myself, and I don't have the habit of charging overnight, unless I absolutely need it.
So I kept calling my retailer, asked for replacement, and they did, well, you won't believe, they replaced three times actually, so I had three different Note 2, with three different charger. Well, each of them acted absolutely fine at first 3-4 charge, then the problem was back again and again. I in fact turned off the device and put it into trash once.
Then I thought let's try some different USB cables, I tried my friend's Galaxy Ace cable. Charging current kept fluctuating between 1000-1200 mA. Which was better than those faulty stock cables, which provided steady 900 mA. Sometimes it even was detecting the AC current as USB, which would provide a mere 460 mA and would take God knows how long! Then I found my piece. I went to my retailer, frustrated and angry, asked them to give me the thickest and shortest possible cable, and they provide me one from a Samsung phone's box, but I can't recall which device was that! And then I sat there for half an hour, kept plugging and unplugging, and the current rate was rock steady at 1800 mA. I took it, paid just 10$ and came back.
Since then I have charged my phone almost 10 times and the current rate never went below 1800 mA / 1.8 A.
This is the cable I am using, do notice that it has 5 pin set up against stock cable's 4 pi, if that matters in any way, and it's about 10% thicker than the stock cable and also about 9" shorter.
And how will you monitor the charging current, three ways are there,
1- Battery Monitor (yet I don't know how to exactly use it)
2- If you are rooted (which is a must anyway), then just go to, /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_avg
3- Use the app from the link below. It basically reads the current value just exactly as above but it saves the time to go into that file every time. A big thanks to Deadvirus.
Galaxy Charging Current application's apk can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36124435)?
Play Store link: (Paid)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S5hYm1hbnRpcy5nYWxheHljaGFyZ2luZ2N1cnJlbnQiXQ..
Thanks to this post and it's poster for informing us about the current output reading path,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33585646&postcount=31

The included cable charger that mine came with charges fast like that, I let it charge slow with standard USB port overnight, but the included charger nd included cable should achieve this. The cable is important.

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The included cable charger that mine came with charges fast like that, I let it charge slow with standard USB port overnight, but the included charger nd included cable should achieve this. The cable is important.
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Same here, it's done within about 2 hours every time, from ~1%. Something definitely must have gone wrong with yours :s

R: [SOLUTION] Slow Charging!
You are amazingly right. Every charger/cable combo I test seems to deliver different currents, according to the app you posted, ranging from 600 to 1300 (mA?).
Didn't know that could happen. Now I am looking for the Holy Grail of chargers, too.
After some tests: original chargers of Note 2 and Tab provide 1800 mA; no-brand Chinese labeled 1500 gives 1400; one Nokia labeled 1200 gives 1300, another, labeled 1200, gives 1200. Puro brand, labeled 2100, gives 1100. Another Chinese, no-brand, labeled 2000, double usb, gives 1100 per socket. Other no-brand samples give 600 or 300 mA.
Enormous variability.
Think I'll use the 1800 mA Samsung for when I'm out, and the good Nokia's for overnight charging when home.
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And I ve been wondering why the heck original cable is too short. I thought samsung were just tight gits. Cable is mot even long enough to reach feom the wall to bed side table
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no problem whatsoever with mine , charging from 1 to 100 % in about 2 - 2:10 hours

Thank you for nice explanation! Now it's much clearer.
For me...
Stock charger + stock short cable (0,9 m) = ~2+ hours
Stock charger + some other cable (1,8 m) = ~4+ hours
,don't know about thicknes. Mb stock cable is thicker, or at least harder to bend.
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Thanks for the APK, I found a huge variance in charging rates based on a combination of chargers and cables. Goes to show that the cable makes a huge difference. Here's my findings:
** Stock Charger (2A):
w/Stock Cable (4-pin) - 1698
w/Cable from another phone (5-pin) - 1698
w/Cable from battery pack (5-pin)- 1698
w/generic eBay cable (4-pin)- 100! - It didn't charge at all, even with screen off.
** iPhone Charger (1A):
w/Stock Cable (4-pin) - 1300
w/Cable from another phone (5-pin) - 1100
w/Cable from battery pack (5-pin) - 1300
w/generic eBay cable (4-pin) - 100!
** Car Charger (1A):
w/another generic eBay cable - 490
(Was running Redpill kernel, not sure if that has fast charging built in which might affect results).

The app is really helpful. Been wondering what the charging current was on different chargers.
I measured it using the app based on current AVG and not current NOW. This is because I used a 800ma blackberry charger and yet current now shows 1698 which is impossible.
The app will tell you which cables and chargers are good. I was shocked that out of my 8 cables only 3 gave an average of more than 1000, the rest give around 800 or less.
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Hi!
So, the AC adaptater mentionne 2A but it doesn't mean that your devuce consume 2A... It means that the AC adaptater can provide 2A under 5V.
If a load need to consume 500mA the adaptater can provide enough power. But if it needs more than 2A, the ouput current will be at the 2A max but your voltage will decrease (it means that you have a device problem!).
The only thing to do is to refer to the user manual of device.
One thing more, the USB protocole fix the maximun current to 1A!
An other thing, if you want to have a better battery life it recommended to charge your battery slowly. Just have the habit to charge it during the night.
See ya.
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I also got an lg very thick cable..which is also 5 pin and let me tell it charges REEEEAAAALLLLYYYY FAST..when seen in application posted in op(thanx) it shows 1800..but the problem is if I detach charging before battery full notification then the battery is consumed at very high rate..I.e battery life decreased or maybe shows fake battery percentage. .and if I go for full charge it takes half hour more after 100% to show battery full in notification. .
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lucier said:
Hi!
So, the AC adaptater mentionne 2A but it doesn't mean that your devuce consume 2A... It means that the AC adaptater can provide 2A under 5V.
If a load need to consume 500mA the adaptater can provide enough power. But if it needs more than 2A, the ouput current will be at the 2A max but your voltage will decrease (it means that you have a device problem!).
The only thing to do is to refer to the user manual of device.
One thing more, the USB protocole fix the maximun current to 1A!
An other thing, if you want to have a better battery life it recommended to charge your battery slowly. Just have the habit to charge it during the night.
See ya.
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Yes, the stock charger doesn't provide full 2A current.
And is it true that if the device is charged slowly the battery backup will be better? I mean that would be good then. I'll try that, thanks for informing.
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I also got an lg very thick cable..which is also 5 pin and let me tell it charges REEEEAAAALLLLYYYY FAST..when seen in application posted in op(thanx) it shows 1800..but the problem is if I detach charging before battery full notification then the battery is consumed at very high rate..I.e battery life decreased or maybe shows fake battery percentage. .and if I go for full charge it takes half hour more after 100% to show battery full in notification. .
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On my old cable, the damaged stock one, it'd take half an hour to reach 100% from 99. With this one it takes 5-6 mins.
This whole charging process is complicated that much I can say.
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Unfortunately I got a grey import so my stock charger was for a different country.
I'm having to use a 1.0A charger instead.
It still only takes a few hours to charge though. I sleep for 4-5 hours and it's always fully charged when I wake up.
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Hmm is this a accurate way of measuring amp?
I was using same cord and the apk provided above, using the default 2amp charger says 1697 and using a bellkin in charger rated at 1amp,says the same thing?
Hmm

I am a bit confused, which of the following is my actual charging rate? The charge is really slow, around 15% per hour or so.
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As I stated in the screenshot, you shouldn't look at current_now, it'll always be same, 1698, you should look at current_avg.
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Damn. That means it's time for me to get a new charger, isn't it?
Just switched to a very old 0.7 A output charger my father uses on his primitive samsung device. It gives better results than my stock charger/USB cable, provided by samsung. 800 mA on a 700 mA charger. How is that even possible?
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I am a bit confused, which of the following is my actual charging rate? The charge is really slow, around 15% per hour or so.
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are using stock cable ?

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are using stock cable ?
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Yeah I am. The stock charger says 2A, 5V. When used with the stock cable it charges at a mere 200-400 mA. I used the wall charger of an old samsung phone (doesn't have a usb cable, just a wall charger) and current rises to 800mA. Where can I buy a good USB cable at in the UK?
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I have buy a new stock charger because I was thinking my stock one was dead (slow charging / usb mode)...
But in fact it's not my stock charger who is defected but it's just the cable!!!
Just try with another cable and it's OK (AC mode).
Thanks for the apk!

About AC adapter and its amperage

Hi all,
Ok, so I finally managed to order a 16Gb Nexus 4 and hopefully it will be with me in 1 week or so.
And I was wondering one thing regarding the AC adapter: I believe (pls correct me if I am wrong) that the original AC adapter’s output voltage is DC 5V, 1.2A.
I will need an extra AC adapter to keep it at work and I was planning to use one of those:
- The Sony Xperia P AC adapter will output 5V, 1,5A
- The Samsung Galaxy S AC adapter will output 5V, 0,7A
It is clear that neither of those 2 chargers will match exactly the specifications of the original Nexus charger (same voltage, but different amperage).
So, here goes the questions:
1) Is there any problem if I use a charger that will output the same voltage but with different amperage?... if not, which one would you use and why?.
2) how the amperage affect to the charging process?.
Thanks all in advance
PS: sorry for terrible English

You can use any charger up to 2 amps.
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Evergreen74 said:
Hi all,
Ok, so I finally managed to order a 16Gb Nexus 4 and hopefully it will be with me in 1 week or so.
And I was wondering one thing regarding the AC adapter: I believe (pls correct me if I am wrong) that the original AC adapter’s output voltage is DC 5V, 1.2A.
I will need an extra AC adapter to keep it at work and I was planning to use one of those:
- The Sony Xperia P AC adapter will output 5V, 1,5A
- The Samsung Galaxy S AC adapter will output 5V, 0,7A
It is clear that neither of those 2 chargers will match exactly the specifications of the original Nexus charger (same voltage, but different amperage).
So, here goes the questions:
1) Is there any problem if I use a charger that will output the same voltage but with different amperage?... if not, which one would you use and why?.
2) how the amperage affect to the charging process?.
Thanks all in advance
PS: sorry for terrible English
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You must use a 5V AC USB Adapter and better no LESS than 1A
for Fast Charge.
AC Adapter I Use:
iPad AC Adapter 5V 2.1A at Work
PlayBook AC Adapter 5V 1.8A at Home 1
Original Nexus 4 AC 5V 1.2A at Home 2.
Our Nexus 4 will Draw around 0.8A when Batt lever at 0% - 80%,
then around 0.5A at 80%-95%, Final State 95%-100% will draw 0.2A roughly.
When 100%, Nexus 4 will use the AC power & the Current "A" show on phone
will like 2mA (0.002A) when idling.
** 1A = 1000mA

As previous poster said, do not go under 1.2amp.
I run the OEM charger in my bed room, a USB charger to my computer, and a 2.1amp charger in the car.

Sfkn2 said:
As previous poster said, do not go under 1.2amp.
I run the OEM charger in my bed room, a USB charger to my computer, and a 2.1amp charger in the car.
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Why do you say not to go under 1.2A? Charging from a laptop is at .5A. I've been using a 1A charger since day one. Haven't experienced any issues with it.
Charging at a lower amperage shouldn't hurt anything, just charge slower. All you have to do is make sure it's a 5V charger. Amperage shouldn't matter but a lower amp charger will charge slower. As for a higher amp charger, the phone will only draw the amount of power it needs to charge so using 2A charger won't hurt anything either.

Also 2mA is 0.002A not 0.02 A

wilsonlam97 said:
You can use any charger up to 2 amps.
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Since the charger doesn't actually regulate the charging itself (the phone does this) it doesn't matter how many amps it can supply, could be 100 amps, no worries. As long as it is 5V, the phone will draw as many amps as it needs.
Since the supplied charger is 1.2A rated, it's fair to assume that the phone will never actually try to draw any more than that, so there will be no benefit in going higher.
Going for a lower current charger will likely extend the charge time.

I use a 2.1 amp daily without any issues.
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Wow guys!!... thanks all for your answers!!
So, if I understood correctly, the amperage will only affect to the charging time, meaning that by using the Xperia P AC adapter (1,5A) the battery will be charged faster that using the Galaxy S one (0,7A)... right?
Pls allow one last question: a few yeard ago, I think I read in some forums that a slower charging process could help to keep the batteries in the best conditions for a longer time... is this still true with modern batteries??
Again, THANKS all for your help!!

Evergreen74 said:
Wow guys!!... thanks all for your answers!!
So, if I understood correctly, the amperage will only affect to the charging time, meaning that by using the Xperia P AC adapter (1,5A) the battery will be charged faster that using the Galaxy S one (0,7A)... right?
Pls allow one last question: a few yeard ago, I think I read in some forums that a slower charging process could help to keep the batteries in the best conditions for a longer time... is this still true with modern batteries??
Again, THANKS all for your help!!
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Yes, the .7A charger will take a little longer to charge you phone.
On the other answer, I think NO but I'm not as familiar with LiPo batteries. I would venture to say that .7A vs 1.2A (max the phone will draw but I think someone above mentioned it's even less than that when the battery is very low) is not going to make a bit of difference in your battery life.
One thing I do know about LiPo's is you do not trickle charge them. So while plugged in it will charge at the rates mentioned above until full and then it QUITS charging all together. Once the phone discharges the battery to a certain level, it will charge it back up again. Probably at 98-99%.

There may be one other thing to consider when selecting a third party charger. In the Nexus 7, the device looks for pins 2 & 3 (data) of the USB plug to be shorted in order for it to draw full current. If this pins are open (or have a load across them as is the case with iPhone/iPad chargers), the Nexus 7 will assume it is plugged into a computer and limit its draw to 500MA.
Not certain the Nexus 4 behaves the same way but would assume so.

setzer715 said:
Yes, the .7A charger will take a little longer to charge you phone.
On the other answer, I think NO but I'm not as familiar with LiPo batteries. I would venture to say that .7A vs 1.2A (max the phone will draw but I think someone above mentioned it's even less than that when the battery is very low) is not going to make a bit of difference in your battery life.
One thing I do know about LiPo's is you do not trickle charge them. So while plugged in it will charge at the rates mentioned above until full and then it QUITS charging all together. Once the phone discharges the battery to a certain level, it will charge it back up again. Probably at 98-99%.
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setzer715, thanks for the answer... I think I will be using the Xperia P charger at work...
Thanks all for your help!!

I want to make this case clear. According to my Charging log,
Here is some key point.
Nexus 4 Max Draw Rate at Fast Charge Mode is around 800-900mA,
even you use a Charger that rated at 1A (iPhone Tofu), 1.2A (Original),
1.8A (Playbook), 2.1A (iPad).
Fast Charge Mode must be with Charging Cable with 2&3 pin Shorted,
or the charger itself have the 2&3 pin already shorted.
Therefore, 1A is a Sweet spot for getting Charger & Charging Time for
Li-Po/Li-Ion/Ni-MH Batt charging.
If you use under 1A Charger, eg 700mA or 500mA, it will take much longer
to charge the batt but no harm as well. Just too slow only.

The stock charger that came with my phone sucks, I use one from my epic 4g touch (gs2)and it charges much better
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jlear3 said:
The stock charger that came with my phone sucks,
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Why you say so...? What's wrong with it...?

Talon88 said:
Why you say so...? What's wrong with it...?
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Left a phone on a charger all night with a long (10ft) cable and it couldn't even charge the phone over night. I know a 10ft cable will slow things down but my gs2 plug has no problem charging my phone. Search around and you'll find a few fail stories about the stock LG charger.
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