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Battery Life moaners

Fed up with the moans about battery life. Yes there are issues but not to the extent that some people suggest.
Below are screenshots of my battery usage:-
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This is from a normal usage of my phone. As you can see from the graph the last few hours were me connected to wi-fi constantly, tweeting, fiddling and browsing forums. Yes a quick drain but this is a phone!
My point of this post is compare this to tablets and netbooks. The majority last 6 hours, tops. The SGS II is a dual core, amoled phone. It was always going to be a beast on the battery. However if you use it wisely, ie only have Wi-Fi on when necessary, the phone lasts as this phone should.
It out performs most tablets and for the relative size of both screen and battery I would say that's hugely impressive.
Looking forward to your comments.
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Your post is refreshing because of the following:
1) Clearly shows the display is the biggest drainer of battery. Anything else means you simply didn't setup your phone right or have some rogue app chewing stuff up.
2) You're not going bonkers with "OMFG my phone only lost 0% over 4 hours" and then post a graph that shows the screen was on for 2 seconds. Uh, well... duh! Completely stupid and pointless, glad your graph actually reflects real usage and battery drain.

samed1983 said:
Fed up with the moans about battery life. Yes there are issues but not to the extent that some people suggest.
Below are screenshots of my battery usage:-
This is from a normal usage of my phone. As you can see from the graph the last few hours were me connected to wi-fi constantly, tweeting, fiddling and browsing forums. Yes a quick drain but this is a phone!
My point of this post is compare this to tablets and netbooks. The majority last 6 hours, tops. The SGS II is a dual core, amoled phone. It was always going to be a beast on the battery. However if you use it wisely, ie only have Wi-Fi on when necessary, the phone lasts as this phone should.
It out performs most tablets and for the relative size of both screen and battery I would say that's hugely impressive.
Looking forward to your comments.
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You could have posted this in the same battery thread to save some space on the front page in general section, no offence...

I am actually fairly happy with my battery life
My Android OS has never gone past 10%
Getting around 16-17 hours with heavy-ish use, not bad imo

kryptoner said:
You could have posted this in the same battery thread to save some space on the front page in general section, no offence...
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You're right. We wouldn't want to take away from the banding on the left side of the display, Wi-Fi issues, and the camera pink spot.
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Andy2.2 said:
I am actually fairly happy with my battery life
My Android OS has never gone past 10%
Getting around 16-17 hours with heavy-ish use, not bad imo
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Which rom are you using?

Op thats light usage...
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Which rom are you using?
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stock, although I'm still at the stage where I can't put the phone down for more than a couple of minutes.

Andy2.2 said:
stock, although I'm still at the stage where I can't put the phone down for more than a couple of minutes.
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stock is fine, but tell us the kernel version

KE7
10char

If you use kf2 you can get rid of the wifi sharing and save 15% battery.

kryptoner said:
You could have posted this in the same battery thread to save some space on the front page in general section, no offence...
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I couldn't find it again, my intention was to post in the same thread. Tried searching but came up with bumf.
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now im gonna say this,
you people really shouldnt compare battery time like tht. Its the screen on time you should compare!! its far more accurate than this. i can get around 3h of constat use and connected to wifi. this is screen on time.

what's average screen time in hours for most users? i've been reading about 4 hours plus or minus 1. 8 hours is unreasonable on one charge? i like to read books so i am wondering about this. i highly anticipate this phone but the n9 kind of looks hot too if the rumor is true alien dalvik allows android apps on meego.

So what? You kinda never used your phone. Surf the internet connected via 3g and come back to tell me

So you use your phone less than my grandma and hardly get two days out of the battery?
Great, that's nothing to be proud of.
With this usage my Omnia7 lasted for a week but the SGSII drains harder than my kitchen sink.

I noticed light consumes unusually lot of power too .. I recommend not using it as torch. White screen works just as fine for me (in total darkness). It seems they put in even stronger LED then in previous models .. and it better be used just for the moment as photographic flash. Battery voltage drops significantly .. and it slowly returns after the LED is turned off .. which means it's really strained a lot.

I bet i can get 2 days of battery in the way you used your phone. Screen was rarely on, so you just showed us that you can get a day and a half of stand-by.

At the risk of being accused of grandma phone usage im actually fairly happy.. The wifi sharing thing is a ***** so axed that.
This is with stock but rooted ke7
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I'm getting pretty good battery life aswell with stock kf2. The only thing I did is deleting some of he crappy samsung apps and froze wifi sharing. I get about 2 days of battery with normal use. And yes i do use the phone in these 2 days.
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Battery Life Issue (Is this normal battery life)

I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
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philc21 said:
I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
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as of yesterday, I'm seeing the same problem. Didn't have short battery life before that but several apps updated yesterday morning and now I have something like 50% on Android System and an unusually high "Stay Awake" - we're talking something like 10 hours when I wasn't using the phone for anything in particular - certainly not 10 hours worth!
So, I'm wondering how we tell what is keeping a phone awake?

usually we need more info such as what rom your using and when it started to happen..
second post might be one of the apps thats causing it so id backtrack them n see if u can find the culprit
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also, better battery stats on xda is your friend.. android system can be a ton of different things
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I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.

scadilla said:
I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.
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This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-
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Yes, you will lose HD Voice / VOLTE unfortunately. That was a sacrifice I had to take I couldn't deal with my phone being dead by 5:00pm.

agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.

CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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it is what it is.. there are ni2 roms with great battery.. few have reported battery drains but not me.. ive tried a few ni2 roms and not had a battery drain since before ni2
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CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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Wake lock detector and greenify are your friends...

My about phone.

so, after posting the second post in this thread I'm happy to post that my battery consumption returned to normal by the next day. I don't know what was going on but I'm still on NI2 and regular battery consumption - what I've been used to seeing on the phone all along.
that said, it's great to know about some of the apps that are available for better tracking/info about wake-locks and battery use.

Early report of Nexus 6 battery performance : Almost 6 hours screen on time!

What do you think???
With not so good cell reception (as he said) and so many wake-locks, I think it's pretty good!
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Now lets see how the battery handles while playing Ingress!

I would be very happy with this if it is typical usage!

If I can actually get anywhere near this I will be very Happy.

Not as good as I was hoping, but still reasonable. That's right around what I've been averaging with my Moto X.

Not good at all.

The wake locks are horrible!
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I think that is looking decent, with 13% of the battery used being on 'Cell standby' it is clear that reception was not good during the day. On my nexus 5 when cell reception is good Cell standby barely registers on the list. Max of 5% usually. So would we be looking at 6.5 hours screen time if reception is good? Also no indication that battery saving has been used or not (doesn't look like it is, on the screenshots as the notification/nav bar are not orange). Or what screen brightness set.
Who knows. It is all guessing until more reviews are out.

Dr Faustus said:
Now lets see how the battery handles while playing Ingress!
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Just what I was thinking
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Yes, same with me. On my Nexus 5 with quite good reception the "mobile standby" is less than 5%.
With that in mind, we will have more than this.
And see those wake-locks, horrible.
Probably some apps, services, or accounts need to be properly setup and configured.
More battery life from that.
And for more extreme, we can use darker theme
So, I am OK with this early report, it's a GOOD BASE!
pemz82 said:
I think that is looking decent, with 13% of the battery used being on 'Cell standby' it is clear that reception was not good during the day. On my nexus 5 when cell reception is good Cell standby barely registers on the list. Max of 5% usually. So would we be looking at 6.5 hours screen time if reception is good? Also no indication that battery saving has been used or not (doesn't look like it is, on the screenshots as the notification/nav bar are not orange). Or what screen brightness set.
Who knows. It is all guessing until more reviews are out.
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It's a great start. I'm sure we'll have them up to 10 hours SOT with tweaks in no time.

That is mush better then my Note 3... hope I can get this divce sone..

Battery thread = subjective . just leave that there
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bradputt said:
The wake locks are horrible!
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I'm seeing similar wakelocks on my nexus 5 with the last preview. The one before it had much better battery life, at least for me. I think kitkit has better battery life than lpx19D. so much for improved battery savings in 5.0.

Luxferro said:
I'm seeing similar wakelocks on my nexus 5 with the last preview. The one before it had much better battery life, at least for me. I think kitkit has better battery life than lpx19D. so much for improved battery savings in 5.0.
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Yeah me too. My N5 was charged fully yesterday morning and it just sat at my house untouched all day, and by the time I went to bed it was at 75%, which is pathetic. That's the last dev preview. On KK, it still would have been at 100%, or at worst 99%. I didn't investigate what was causing it, but that was bone stock without a single app installed. It shouldn't be like that. Hopefully the final version won't have that issue.
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im not impressed. my G3 can easily handle 6 hours of screen time. But its tweaked to hell. Im curious to see the N6 with tweaks. also, does anyone know what screen brightness was set to?

monkeypaws said:
Battery thread = subjective . just leave that there
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This.. Battery usage is going to vary greatly by different users that's why I personally could not care less about anyone's battery usage findings other than my own.

journeyman73 said:
This.. Battery usage is going to vary greatly by different users that's why I personally could not care less about anyone's battery usage findings other than my own.
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Yes it will but it is also very nice to know about what to expect ... this should get just about the same battery life as the note 4 ...give or take 30 minutes

_MetalHead_ said:
Yeah me too. My N5 was charged fully yesterday morning and it just sat at my house untouched all day, and by the time I went to bed it was at 75%, which is pathetic. That's the last dev preview. On KK, it still would have been at 100%, or at worst 99%. I didn't investigate what was causing it, but that was bone stock without a single app installed. It shouldn't be like that. Hopefully the final version won't have that issue.
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I left mine (N5) at home yesterday and only lost 5% in approximately 10hrs on the same preview. Battery for me has either been great or horrible hinging on the signal

nexus6R3plicant said:
Yes it will but it is also very nice to know about what to expect ... this should get just about the same battery life as the note 4 ...give or take 30 minutes
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I agree but some people take these findings to heart and if the battery doesn't live up to their expectations they have an aneurysm.

Came Back to Note 4 from S6 Edge

So I took the leap to the S6 edge. Took the test drive for 8 days and had to return it. I couldn't do it. It was too small for my taste it felt like I was texting on an iPhone (coming from Note 3, 4, and Nexus 6). The battery life was horrible and the feel from the sloped glass felt off in my hands kind of a sharp uncomfortable feel. Now don't get me wrong the phone is sexy as hell and the camera was a beast but the essentials just wasn't there (battery replacement, SD card, large screen). I was also shocked that it lagged at times. I gave it more than one chance but I just couldn't do it. So I'm back to the Note. And it feels so good. You'll never miss something till it's gone. True Story. Waiting on the Note 5 and hope it comes with a replaceable battery.

Ditto. Everything you just said sums up how I felt after a week with the edge. Although battery life was due to the root method I used removed the stock recovery (or something like that) so the phone would never go into deep sleep. But even on stock battery wasn't anything compared to the note 4. Not to mention I have a spare battery so as soon as one dies, fully charged one goes in phone and dead battery goes to charge. I haven't plugged my phone to charge since like December lol.

I feel like I should take a rock and toss at you both and yell "go back where you came from!" lol
but welcome back to the BETTER side

mgbotoe said:
I feel like I should take a rock and toss at you both and yell "go back where you came from!" lol
but welcome back to the BETTER side
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Lmao you got me. Lol Thank for the welcome back. Lol

Lol. My S6 has no issues. Everything on my Note 4 was transferred to my S6 with 41.2gb left. Battery life is great.
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actually just plugged it up.
I guess it's all about the user.

I still like my Note 4. I am also using Galaxy Alpha on Tmo. Tiny phone and cute and I use it when I go jogging. Its only $10 more after the 3rd phone.

Welcome back. My thoughts were the same. The only thing superior is the camera and manual mode . . . But outside of that i view it as a inferior device to the note 4. Its a well made phone though but no expandable memory is a huge fail since we are in the hd and qhd era for content. Streaming is and cloud is not always a reliable solution for many too.

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Lol. My S6 has no issues. Everything on my Note 4 was transferred to my S6 with 41.2gb left. Battery life is great.
actually just plugged it up.
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Am I reading that right 6 hours on screen time? I was only getting 3 on a good day. If thats the case then it was me as a user. I had all push notifications on with 50% screen brightness with WiFi always on. I hope the S6 continues to work out for you. :good:
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Same here lol. Same here. Came back for the same exact reasons lol

the only good thing about the s6 is that i just read they aquired root without tripping knox, that's still not enough to trade my Note 4!!!!!!

memtenn said:
Am I reading that right 6 hours on screen time? I was only getting 3 on a good day. If thats the case then it was me as a user. I had all push notifications on with 50% screen brightness with WiFi always on. I hope the S6 continues to work out for you. :good:
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It says 4 hours and 2 minutes, not 6. I don't think 4 hours of SOT is that impressive. I get 6 or more on my Note 4 without even trying.

I'd do it if I could. I sold 200 s6s.
All we could put on them was this:
Those guys rock by the way.
But there's just nothing there.
It's harder to hack.

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It says 4 hours and 2 minutes, not 6. I don't think 4 hours of SOT is that impressive. I get 6 or more on my Note 4 without even trying.
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What's your kernel set up?

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What's your kernel set up?
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Stock.

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Stock.
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Nice. I can't for the life of me get to 6

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Nice. I can't for the life of me get to 6
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Are you stock or running a custom ROM? Do you play a lot of games? What condition is your battery in? Do you fast charge it a lot or charge it wirelessly or with a PC/laptop?

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Are you stock or running a custom ROM? Do you play a lot of games? What condition is your battery in? Do you fast charge it a lot or charge it wirelessly or with a PC/laptop?
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Custom on the TEKHD rom. 3
No games at all mostly spotify or web browsing on team stream. Kernel apps show that the battery is in good condition and it's only about 4 months old.
No wireless charging here and rarely fast.

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Custom on the TEKHD rom. 3
No games at all mostly spotify or web browsing on team stream. Kernel apps show that the battery is in good condition and it's only about 4 months old.
No wireless charging here and rarely fast.
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TEKHD's ROM is based on Lollipop, isn't it? I've heard mixed things about Lollipop battery life. I'm still running KitKat.

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TEKHD's ROM is based on Lollipop, isn't it? I've heard mixed things about Lollipop battery life. I'm still running KitKat.
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Ah. It all makes sense now.
I thought you were on lollipop as well.
Kitkat is where the battery life is at.

I'll tell you how to get 6 hours on screen time... Turn your screen brightness all the way down and turn on power saver mode. Heck even ultra power if you want.
Everyone user who posts absurd battery life in comparison to almost everyone else is more than likely running some kind of power saver setting all day. Unless you post some kind of time lapse of your settings throughout an entire day of use I'm calling bs.
No way you get that battery life under some what normal scenarios.

The drain is horrible

Unplugged around 9am 40 min later lost 10%++ battery. Wow its like that everyday.
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Only Pandora via bt and few texts..
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Yeah last night my phone dropped 20% and the battery stats didn't show anything waking the phone.
Spoiler
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same problem here, contacted moto and they sending me a replacement for a defective unit. should be here Monday then I send back the old defective one

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same problem here, contacted moto and they sending me a replacement for a defective unit. should be here Monday then I send back the old defective one
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You think it's a bad battery? hmm it's hard to say.. I first want to try a CM 12.1 rom then I might contact moto as well. I am guessing if battery is defective which I am not sure yet they shouldn't have problems doing my claim.

Let us know how CM12 works.... Hate giving up all the Moto extras though
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Let us know how CM12 works.... Hate giving up all the Moto extras though
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When there is one to flash I will. I think something hidden can be draining battery I am just not sure what it is
because when I leave my phone overnight it will drain like 1-2% battery but when I start using it streaming music that's when it goes down quick.

patt2k said:
You think it's a bad battery? hmm it's hard to say.. I first want to try a CM 12.1 rom then I might contact moto as well. I am guessing if battery is defective which I am not sure yet they shouldn't have problems doing my claim.
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when I first got it got hot a lot for a couple of days and battery life was horrible. noticed a lot of my drain was the network eventhough I had full bars. sometimes I would download something and it would disappear, or a app like usps wouldn't save info. called and they offered me a replacement due to defective unit. now battery seems a little bit better but still not great, my old note 2 has about the same battery life as this phone maybe alittle better but I had that phone since it came out. lets see if the replacement is better but if its not im going get a refund.

I'll just put this here.

I'm averaging 2hr 45mins to 3 hours SOT. Is that the norm?

If you can live without active display/moto display. Battery life is much better.
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22 hours off battery, 5 hours 1 minute SoT today...only Attentive Display off, everything else on, no greenify,rooted, exposed.

honestly guys, I highly doubt these are defective units. every phone forum has people screaming that yours is defective if this happens. it's simple that some people get much better battery life than others. I never in my life got battery life on any of my phones that others got, and i highly doubt I had a string of like 10 defective different android phones. my note 4 battery life was god awful, and that thing has a huge battery.
either way, i use lte all the time, I have auto upload for dropbox, i have everything syncing all the time. so of course I have bad battery life. this phone seems like it'll be just as bad as my note to be honest... but I'm not going to return it because it's not like I have a defective battery like so many people claim they think they do.
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In addition to turning off the Moto Active Display. Turning off Adaptive brightness also greatly conserves battery life. Together, without those two Moto features, the device burns battery like most any device. So it's a matter of whether you want the Moto goodies or not. Turning off the Moto Actions and Moto Voice probably help to some degree also. Goodies have a cost .

Bootup said:
22 hours off battery, 5 hours 1 minute SoT today...only Attentive Display off, everything else on, no greenify,rooted, exposed.
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Pretty much what I am seeing only I have Attentive Display On and my screen is at 50%.
-Funk

Bootup said:
22 hours off battery, 5 hours 1 minute SoT today...only Attentive Display off, everything else on, no greenify,rooted, exposed.
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5 hours of SOT? I can barely touch 3. I wonder why my phone doesn't hit 4 hours.

Hmm here is what I did today I turned off VolTE and did wipe & dalvik cache wipes. So far I think drain is smaller I will wait until battery dies and re-charge it to full again.
Today I lost 40% just by listening to music in about 1 hour and a half LOL.
I have moto notifications off facebook greenified etc.. everything I could try. What I did just now was turn off adaptive brightness.

Right before any draining starts only 12 hours after unplugged 20min later ? Is this ok or not ?
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It appears turning adaptive brightness was the key!
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patt2k said:
It appears turning adaptive brightness was the key!
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Turning it on or off helped you?

Nemi5150 said:
Turning it on or off helped you?
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Off.
7% left on this SS
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