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Currently using Mikshift (latest) with BC's 1.8 kernel, although i don't really know if these has anything to do with my problem.
I have 4G on, and i have a fairly consistent "fair" connection. however, whenever i try to do a wired tether, as soon as i select the "tether" option on the list, the 4g connection drops, tries to reconnect and fails, then reconnects again as soon as i get out of tether mode.
tethering does work, but only with a 3G connection
is this a sprint policy, or is there something going on here? I'm paying $10 extra for stupid 4G, i better be able to tether with it.
Tethering with 4G right now, using PdaNet. Do it all the time.
You can't tether 4g with the built in sprint tether, you need to use a third party app. And for some reason the free third party apps don't work in 3g, so you have to bounce back and forth.
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Just use wireless tether
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Thanks for the responses.
I actually just opted to just 3rd party, easytether. Anyone know why 4g cannot be tethered? Is it just sprint being stingy?
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Why not use wireless tether...you can use 4g lol setup a hotspot for xbox..works
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The computer I needed to tether doesn't have wifi. (It's a desktop pc)
i dont need a signature
Built in wireless tether with evervolv works very well, will update on 4g capability tomorrow afternoon
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Even with wireless tether I get a slow connection with 4 g I think they cap it
Wireless tether seems to work fine in both 3g and 4g modes for me, no problems here I haven't seen any type of cap.
Rob_ec said:
Even with wireless tether I get a slow connection with 4 g I think they cap it
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working on a mod to uncap data usage even though sprint claims to not cap data
linuxman84 said:
Wireless tether seems to work fine in both 3g and 4g modes for me, no problems here I haven't seen any type of cap.
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thats what i was tryin to say lol and good to hear
finalhit said:
I'm paying $10 extra for stupid 4G, i better be able to tether with it.
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Actually the $10 for Premium Data is what everyone now pays who either activated a new smartphone, placed one on their MIN or upgraded to one on of after 01/30/11. You were fed a nice pile of steaming BS thinking the extra $10 was for 4G. Think about all those customers who don't live within the Clear WiMAX footprint nor travel to one. They too forked out $10/month. I'd suggest getting Easy Tether Pro from the market and use that instead of the default app on the HTC EVO Shift 4G.
Sprint does not cap data usage on 4G devices. It is really unlimited...for now.
Not through the actuall device I get good speeds through the phone but when I use the wireless tethering to my laptop it doesn't even let me download anything past 200 KBs that's pretty slow considering when I use the phone it downloads way way faster than that.
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Sprint does not cap data usage on 4G devices. It is really unlimited...for now.
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My wife has my old galaxy s with no data plan, I on the other hand do, when we're together I start my portable wifi hot spot, and hey presto she has internet connection !, I assume this is perfectly legal ?
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Yup as long as you are willing to pay for it.
So do you have too pay for data accessed via tethering ?
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So do you have too pay for data accessed via tethering ?
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Depends on your plan. If you,have the standard plan then once you go over your limit and if att catches you they will force you to get a teathering plan.
On the other hand I'm on a cheapest dumphone plan and run my SGS2 off my old Evo Sprint Wimax hotspot. Fast fast fast! No data accumulated on Att.
Isn't the WiFi tethering only available with your 3G?
Can you connect to WiFi on your phone and tether it to some other phone?
Sure.....s'what I been doing. Running my Samsung sg2 on sprints Wimax. No way I can live with ATT speeds. To gooda phone far that.
The pending Att GS2 will of course access a little better speeds on Att but I'll be hopefully back to Sprint using the Within... Or...Possibly T-Mobile Samsung Hercules. This all of course only til the Nexus Prime breaks lol!
rockky said:
Sure.....s'what I been doing. Running my Samsung sg2 on sprints Wimax. No way I can live with ATT speeds. To gooda phone far that.
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No you're connecting with data (3G) and tethering it on.
I mean, can the phone connect to a WiFi network, then make a WiFi hotspot and let other phones connect to that? I think not.
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No you're connecting with data (3G) and tethering it on.
I mean, can the phone connect to a WiFi network, then make a WiFi hotspot and let other phones connect to that? I think not.
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I know I'm missing something here!... But my samsung is using wifi, (with network off) and connected to Spring Wimax...often with ITS data off.
I still make and receive calls on the Samsung.
So your phone becomes a hotspot or is an ad hoc connection to only one device?
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I know I'm missing something here!... But my samsung is using wifi, (with network off) and connected to Spring Wimax...often with ITS data off.
I still make and receive calls on the Samsung.
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Okay, but when I'm connected to WiFi network and go to "Tether and hotspot" in the phone it wants to disconnect me from the WiFi network.
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Okay, but when I'm connected to WiFi network and go to "Tether and hotspot" in the phone it wants to disconnect me from the WiFi network.
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Yeah gottcha. Same on the Evo. When Hotspotting (to my Samsung), the wifi is disengaged. Yes.
Yeh I have a 500MB data plan, and understand I'd get charged if I go over. Is great for my wife to get internet access when we're out and about without having to pay for her own data plan .
You can only create a portable hot spot with wi-fi turned off, so internet connection is only via mobile data 3G etc.. so the tethered device/s (upto 8 devices at any one time) can only access mobile data.
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I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)
styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
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I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
jemajun000 said:
I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
dtugg said:
False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.
I've been tethering for a while now with my phone and I noticed that lately it seems like my internet stops working after a while. Sometimes it will let me download as much as 2GBs then it starts kicking me off minutes after I begin tethering.
Is Sprint able to see if I'm tethering now? I don't care to much either way I'm fine using my phone to download the things I need. It's just sometimes my downloads fail after reaching 100% so I like to use my PC more.
I have noticed that I've used 50GB this month .
method115 said:
I've been tethering for a while now with my phone and I noticed that lately it seems like my internet stops working after a while. Sometimes it will let me download as much as 2GBs then it starts kicking me off minutes after I begin tethering.
Is Sprint able to see if I'm tethering now? I don't care to much either way I'm fine using my phone to download the things I need. It's just sometimes my downloads fail after reaching 100% so I like to use my PC more.
I have noticed that I've used 50GB this month .
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So its because of people like you I get slow connections whenever I try to open any website on my phone if I can't use a wifi.
Ever heard of cable internet?
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obsanity said:
So its because of people like you I get slow connections whenever I try to open any website on my phone if I can't use a wifi.
Ever heard of cable internet?
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That's BS. Don't throw claims around no one knows are true. I tether and the other sprint 4g phones in my household don't take a hit in bandwidth. The amount of people that tether alot or a small minority compared to people that don't. Blame sprint for not giving you a good connection, not us. Anywho, back to this torrent...
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Sprint told me to root my phone and tether.
I don't think they check.
RushAOZ said:
That's BS. Don't throw claims around no one knows are true. I tether and the other sprint 4g phones in my household don't take a hit in bandwidth. The amount of people that tether alot or a small minority compared to people that don't. Blame sprint for not giving you a good connection, not us. Anywho, back to this torrent...
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actualy they can tell and torrent downloaders are so easy spot, and im pretty sure torrent downloading might be in the fine print somewhere.
Oh also your so cool bro replacing home internet with sprints weak 3g/4g service that does not have any net neatrilty laws lol you will be gone sooner or later
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I read recently sprint was pulling tethering apps from the market so they may be trying to weed out some in addition the recent 5GB cap on hotspot, i'm sure they are fine tuning their system to track data in different manners. Currently they cant even separate hotspot and phone data, that should serve interesting to how they implement overages.
Yeah. Eventually when all the unlimited plans are gone at least we'll know why.
Also, sprint can tell your tethering, they're just not actively doing anything about it yet. After all when you are on 3G or 4G you go through their IP gateway and they can control what you see and can tell what you're using to see it. The only way to prevent that would be through vpn and maybe some https but headers still have to go through clean.
P2P is probably the easiest to detect even if encrypted so good luck trying to get your number back after they close your account.
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True, i would hope the systems are able to track it with all the tracking a smartphone is capable of especially just knowing the browser type they should be able to see who's tethering. I'm really curious to see how this plays out over the next year or two with data usage.
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That's BS. Don't throw claims around no one knows are true. I tether and the other sprint 4g phones in my household don't take a hit in bandwidth. The amount of people that tether alot or a small minority compared to people that don't. Blame sprint for not giving you a good connection, not us. Anywho, back to this torrent...
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No definitely you guys
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searchfirst said:
I read recently sprint was pulling tethering apps from the market so they may be trying to weed out some in addition the recent 5GB cap on hotspot, i'm sure they are fine tuning their system to track data in different manners. Currently they cant even separate hotspot and phone data, that should serve interesting to how they implement overages.
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Actually they can
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Don't believe anyone who says they cannot tell if your tethering. All they have to do is check what the source and destination mac address using a program such as wireshark to sniff the IP of your phone.
Also don't believe anyone who says your phone is affecting their bandwidth. Bandwidth depends on signal strength and how much bandwidth they are using on their 3g 4g frequencies they use. Its different everywhere for every tower and has to do with the type of license they were able to obtain from the fcc for the tower you are using.
As far as your question regarding sprint killing your downloads, you would need to find a way to sniff you phone's 3g/4g connection to find out whats killing the packets. i would guess that its probably an issue with the connection(s) timing out for high ping times. i don't know if there is a way to manually adjust the ttl in android.
obsanity said:
So its because of people like you I get slow connections whenever I try to open any website on my phone if I can't use a wifi.
Ever heard of cable internet?
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Guess what jackass not everyone has cable availability. I live in the county and I don't have cable, or DSL available. In fact as of this year I can no longer get a phone line to my home. The only options some of us have are satellite internet or tethering.
They may be able to on a backend but sprint.com and their billing system doesn't show the difference. Currently if you call sprint and ask for your hotspots usage they cannot provide an answer.
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Don't believe anyone who says they cannot tell if your tethering. All they have to do is check what the source and destination mac address using a program such as wireshark to sniff the IP of your phone.
Also don't believe anyone who says your phone is affecting their bandwidth. Bandwidth depends on signal strength and how much bandwidth they are using on their 3g 4g frequencies they use. Its different everywhere for every tower and has to do with the type of license they were able to obtain from the fcc for the tower you are using.
As far as your question regarding sprint killing your downloads, you would need to find a way to sniff you phone's 3g/4g connection to find out whats killing the packets. i would guess that its probably an issue with the connection(s) timing out for high ping times. i don't know if there is a way to manually adjust the ttl in android.
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Yes but torenting is easy to spot due the way it downloads parts of bytes from different spots
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Windst said:
Sprint told me to root my phone and tether.
I don't think they check.
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Really????
My wife hates XDA
dowmace said:
Guess what jackass not everyone has cable availability. I live in the county and I don't have cable, or DSL available. In fact as of this year I can no longer get a phone line to my home. The only options some of us have are satellite internet or tethering.
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There are means to tether when you have no options. I was pointing out the ops ignorant approach to data usage since he clearly has a different internet connection but still chooses to use the phone.
Keep your jackass to yourself.
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There are means to tether when you have no options. I was pointing out the ops ignorant approach to data usage since he clearly has a different internet connection but still chooses to use the phone.
Keep your jackass to yourself.
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You blamed him for your data speeds. If he is causing low data speeds, then how do the people legitimately tethering not effect your speeds?
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There are means to tether when you have no options. I was pointing out the ops ignorant approach to data usage since he clearly has a different internet connection but still chooses to use the phone.
Keep your jackass to yourself.
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I never said I have another internet connection. I said I could simply just download the files with my phone. I preferred to use my PC instead because I can avoid having to transfer files.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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You blamed him for your data speeds. If he is causing low data speeds, then how do the people legitimately tethering not effect your speeds?
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Sprint would accommodate for that. But because people abuse the otherwise would be fair use type of tether system, soon people such as yourself, who can't have any other access will be either limited to a ridiculous 5GB per month or not have the ability at all.
For people like myself who ocasonally use tether without tether plan (because of root access) to check some emails/web when stranded without wifi access, Sprint may disable that all together and we'll be forced to pay the $30 per month fee for the 1 or 2 times a year of 100-200MB of data used.
That's why I can't stand people abusing it. And for the op... if you truly do not have any other means of getting a wired data line, I hope you are at least paying for it even though it may no longer be unlimited.
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obsanity said:
Sprint would accommodate for that. But because people abuse the otherwise would be fair use type of tether system, soon people such as yourself, who can't have any other access will be either limited to a ridiculous 5GB per month or not have the ability at all.
For people like myself who ocasonally use tether without tether plan (because of root access) to check some emails/web when stranded without wifi access, Sprint may disable that all together and we'll be forced to pay the $30 per month fee for the 1 or 2 times a year of 100-200MB of data used.
That's why I can't stand people abusing it. And for the op... if you truly do not have any other means of getting a wired data line, I hope you are at least paying for it even though it may no longer be unlimited.
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Obsanity, Were I can definitely understand your frustration with sprints slow network (I feel the same way), Sprint advertises unlimited data on smartphones. regardless of him paying for tethering (which he should pay for), data is data, and its all 1's and 0's and therefor is a mute point. People that tether without paying for it are not cause of slow data, however they will be the cause of tiered data plans. Until that happens chill out and relax. If you have a signal , -60db or better, then call sprint and have them take a look at the tower. if they insist its your phone, have them replace it. if they won't look at the tower, thank them for their time and file a complaint with the fcc.
So I got the Value plan after getting my Nexus 4 (unlimited data) but been having tethering issues. Please try to help me out if you actually understand the situation, don't just say "It works for me..."
Here's the deal, wired tethering works if I use Clockwork Mods Tether App. I used to think I needed to start up my Chrome from a Nexus 4 User agent, but same thing with and without, it works with the tether app (which obviously uses a companion app on the computer). BUT....A while ago tether never worked with the clockwork mod tether app if I didn't use the UA switch, but now it does, IDK whatever, T-mobile is weird.
However, straight from the settings, WiFi or wired tether never works, with or without APN and UA change (on comp), meaning I especially wont be able to use it on my PS3 and such. Now, I'm not sure if its a hidden APN thing, IDK, though I did create a separate APN and tried that out with the stock tether in the phone and it didn't work.
Anyone know any solutions, T-mobile is pretty good lol...? Lemee say thanks in advance
(A solution i would want is to be able to use it on my PS3 again, on something where I'm not able to install a clockwork mod tether app lol, a process be done phone side to bypass...)
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I don't think there is an answer to your question. You've been flagged by T-mobile. The only way to tether again is to pay for it.
El Daddy said:
I don't think there is an answer to your question. You've been flagged by T-mobile. The only way to tether again is to pay for it.
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But the question is, how do they know that you are tethering?
billrd said:
But the question is, how do they know that you are tethering?
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Because you are using too much data. Their montly 4G plans are capped at a maximum 5GB per month, says it right on their website, after that they throttle you down to 2G speeds.They can also see the unique ip address of everything your tethering, some tethering apps say they can hide the address or at least spoof it so it looks like its coming just from the phone, but if you still use too much data your screwed.
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kzoodroid said:
Because you are using too much data. Their montly 4G plans are capped at a maximum 5GB per month, says it right on their website, after that they throttle you down to 2G speeds.They can also see the unique ip address of everything your tethering, some tethering apps say they can hide the address or at least spoof it so it looks like its coming just from the phone, but if you still use too much data your screwed.
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Well the new unlimited 4g value plan is unlimited, and there is NO throttling. However, you can't tether. I was just wondering how they can tell that the data is coming from a tethered laptop and not the phone itself.
billrd said:
Well the new unlimited 4g value plan is unlimited, and there is NO throttling. However, you can't tether. I was just wondering how they can tell that the data is coming from a tethered laptop and not the phone itself.
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Its probably a combination between UA strings and excessive data not usual with a smartphone.
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Yes they can tell
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I agree, but how can they tell? It's not from excessive data usage, at least for me.
billrd said:
I agree, but how can they tell? It's not from excessive data usage, at least for me.
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I've heard of a number ways they can do this, no one really know for sure they just know they can. One is that each device you connect has a unique identifier so they know its not your phone connecting. Another is that with TMo and AT&T in particular all the tethering apps used to use an APN just for tethering and AT&T monitors that APN for traffic to make sure you paid for it. Some wifi tethering apps try to avoid this by not using that APN. I've also read speculation that its the browsers themselves you use that give you away as they have unique identifier strings they send out with each request. This last one maybe the same thing I mentioned first, in that even the same browser on a different device will have different identifiers. So if you use chrome on the phone and on the desktop they will show up as two different devices giving you away.
kzoodroid said:
Because you are using too much data. Their montly 4G plans are capped at a maximum 5GB per month, says it right on their website, after that they throttle you down to 2G speeds.They can also see the unique ip address of everything your tethering, some tethering apps say they can hide the address or at least spoof it so it looks like its coming just from the phone, but if you still use too much data your screwed.
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The whole point of the Monthly 4G plans with the 5GB cap is to tether.
Like i said i could still tether with the clockwork mod app, so whatever its doing (im guessing adding vpn's and stuff on the computer) is working, then i set my chrome browser UA to desktop mode Nexus 4 Chrome. Sometimes if you are not using the UA string, ittl show you the tmobile page. I don't know but kudos to magenta, there method works when you actually get flagged (which im guessing not many do...)