[Q] How well will LG support the G2? [Software] - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I currently have an iPhone 5 (Verizon), and am just about to pull the trigger on buying a G2 from swappa. My only fear is the level of support from LG. I'm half tempted to sacrifice the battery life for a phone like the HTC One or GS4 since they are confirmed to get Kit Kat. Currently, LG has been quiet on the update. I've read that LG in the past has been pretty bad with software updates. I like just almost everything about the G2 (not sure on the back buttons yet), but this concerns me. I would buy a Nexus 5 if Verizon carried it, but then I'd be losing battery life. Thanks for any help.
I'm also tempted to get an HTC One or GS4 for the dev community. It seems like both phones are widely popular and supported. I know the G2 is still new, but it seems slow to take off. I'm worried that it will never take off.

Pretty strange to me, a person with an iPhone 5 is concerned about a development community?
If your only primary concern is the development community, than I suggest you move on and pick up those other devices.
I'm sure the G2 will receive an official kit kat update but of course no one can actually pinpoint when will it be released, especially being that you're a Verizon customer.

LG record with android updates hasn't been pretty good, however it it has officially confirmed the G2 will receive the KitKat update, at least. Companies can change, though. In any case, given its similarity to the Nexus 5, there ought to be some decent developer support.

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Have you owned an LG phone before?

I own an S3 (Galaxy Nexus before the S3) and can't decide if I want this Nexus 4 or not. I have been reading a lot of complaints about LG phones, specifically shoddy hardware. So I'm curious if anyone in here buying the N4 have actually owned an LG phone before. I've been an Apple/Samsung guy for the last 4 years so making the switch is a little unsettling after reading some feedback on LG on XDA. It's a Google OS as vanilla as it gets, and that is a good thing. However after your return policy is up it will be LG supporting this device and backing the hardware, that's what concerns me.
Never owned an LG before ( except a fridge maybe?) but it's a nexus. Sometimes I even forget that it's made by LG.
Yeah it's a Nexus, but it's not made or supported by Google. That's my concern. The Nexus 7 is a Nexus and that has to be one of the most shoddily made devices I've ever owned. I went through 5 before I could actually use one without the screen lifting up.
No, and if this wasn't a Nexus, I would never buy it (someone said Optimus G?).
Because this is an LG, Google checks the device a million times and warranty is buy Google.
So I guess the only thing we need to worry about is how good does LG check devices coming from the factory. (just want to say I think HTC don't do it well.. they should sell their devices will a soldering kit to fix wifi / gps :laughing:
Anyway, I own an LG Smart TV, and its awesome! No problems at all!
Used to have an Optimus 2x i changed out with a Galaxy Nexus after a year or so, it wasn't bad but the software support was awful, heck they haven't even done ICS for it yet, but it was atleast better than the Nexus which i got scratches on after a few months.
Sold that and changed to the SGS3 which i would've kept if it hadn't pinktinted my display, now i'm gonna get it repaired under warranty and sell that if there is nothing to the claimed issues with the Nexus 4 performance/heat conductivity.
DubelBoom said:
No, and if this wasn't a Nexus, I would never buy it (someone said Optimus G?).
Because this is an LG, Google checks the device a million times and warranty is buy Google.
So I guess the only thing we need to worry about is how good does LG check devices coming from the factory. (just want to say I think HTC don't do it well.. they should sell their devices will a soldering kit to fix wifi / gps :laughing:
Anyway, I own an LG Smart TV, and its awesome! No problems at all!
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Google does not warranty this device and where is your evidence that Google checks the device a million times. As it is Google has sent out review samples that are getting results all over the place. That doesn't instill a lot of confidence in Googles checks.
I'm not trying to crap on LG here, but I also don't want to blindly buy a device I know nothing about just because it's a Nexus. Like I said, the Nexus 7 is a Nexus and that has horrible build quality and quality control issues. When you have problems with a Nexus 7 after your Google Play return policy you are dealing with Asus, not Google for warranty issues.
I've had a G2x for a year and a half, and and although the software on it was horrible, the build quality was excellent. Their devices don't feel cheap at all.
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I had an LG flip phone back in the day that I liked.
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i had the Optimus 4X, and it is yet to be opened by LG. it has alot of security checks to make sure no one tries to abuse their licenced hardware functions.
they have the bootloader locked on the Tegra3 platform like Asus do on Prime, and no unlocking available.
If they follow their current strategy around sourcecode and proprietary code with security checks around the binaries being in place, i would stay far,far,far away from this device by LG.
It will never get any good support primarily because LG is behind it, so no Gold'LOL'Star from me for this release. It will probably fail long before it ever becomes a success.
exception is if Google agreed to keep this partnership with open sources, it might be totally differenty and LG is not using any special hardware which is closedsource NDA based. so probably based on buying a techkit from an electronics store where no licence is to be paid.
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Google does not warranty this device and where is your evidence that Google checks the device a million times. As it is Google has sent out review samples that are getting results all over the place. That doesn't instill a lot of confidence in Googles checks.
I'm not trying to crap on LG here, but I also don't want to blindly buy a device I know nothing about just because it's a Nexus. Like I said, the Nexus 7 is a Nexus and that has horrible build quality and quality control issues. When you have problems with a Nexus 7 after your Google Play return policy you are dealing with Asus, not Google for warranty issues.
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Evidences? No problem. Google checked the Galaxy Nexus and found out a serious bug at the emmc (or something like that). Then Samsung used it in the Galaxy Note (first one) and they got bricks...
And about warranty, at an Israeli forum we contact Google to ask them about warranty, and they said they are responsible for it..
Owned a Optimus One. Rock solid. Still works. I'm not concerned about buying a LG Nexus 4.
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Never even considered an LG before. And wouldn't have but for the fact that it's a Nexus device.
I had an Optimus 2X, hardware was fineā€¦ it was the software that was crap.
owned a G2X.
Sold it for an Xperia S.
Now I don't know if it was a right decision.
But the right decision is to get the N4.
Ajfink said:
I had an LG flip phone back in the day that I liked.
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If we're going by their dumb/featurephones, I had a Samsung slider whose sliding functionality got really rough after about a year (it didn't slide nearly as smoothly as when I bought it). Sounds about right, really.
Had LG Optimus One - P500... My first Android device..Was a good phone... No issues at all..
I had a Lg ks20 windows phone. Build quality pretty good
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I owned a LG Optimus One (p500) . Pretty good device. Now my mom uses it with CM9 without any problem
Owned a G2x and it was freaking terrible. I read all of the forums where people complained about random reboots and overheating and ignored them all. About a week or 2 after I purchased it I started getting reboots and my phone would get hot too. Don't just take my word for it. Remember LG just let the phone die and never really tool responsibility for it. They wrote the G2x off.
I'm not one of those uber-geeks who demands 0 light bleed or care if I can root it right away but after my G2x experience I vowed to never buy another LG phone again. But here I am. I too am torn between my horrible experience with LG vs. my love of Nexus phones. I think in this case, I'll wait a few weeks to see how the forums sound with first adapters and go from there.
My last five phones have all been LG. I had two dumb phones; the same dumb phone, actually. I used to be really horrible with cell phones (my record is eleven phones in one year) so after that particular phone had enough abuse, I bought it again since I liked it so much.
My first smartphone was the Optimus M from Metro, followed by the Optimus V on Virgin Mobile. When I joined my mom's family plan on T-Mobile, I stuck to what I know and got the G2x (Optimus 2X).
The hardware is nice. It's solid built phone with great specs. It's actual performance, though, was lack luster. I expected a lot more from that phone and I had issues with it that I didn't have on the two low end Optimus devices I owned prior. However, rooting the phone made a HUGE difference in performance and made my phone so much better. Also, I"m sure different users have difference experiences with that phone. My mom has the same phone, but has never had a single complaint about it like I have.
I was in the whole "LG never again camp, but it was confirmed LG was making the Nexus and it was being sold for the price it's being sold for. I'm hoping that, being a Nexus, I won't experience the same problems that I did with my G2x. Despite my history with the G2x, I am more than likely DEFINITELY going to buy the Nexus 4. I will, however, wait for the early adopters to get theirs so we can have some real reviews by real people before I spend money on it, but I'm pretty sure I will own it by December.
My original plan was just to get the Galaxy Nexus to hold me over until my contract was up in July, then either check out the latest and greatest from Android or switch to Windows Phone. Since the Nexus 4 is being sold for the same price as the Galaxy Nexus, though, I'm just going to buy that, then move myself to a contract free plan in July.
So, yeah... this is going to be my sixth LG phone in a row. I've only had ONE bad experience with them and Nvidia can actually take part of the blame for that so it isn't all LG. Still, with the right ROM (currently running CM10 Paranoid Android), I do enjoy my G2x. I'm almost confident that Nexus 4 will by fine out of the box and it will definitely be a noticeable upgrade for me.

LG G2 dev support?

Hi
I already own an HTC One but i'd like to get a Snapdragon 800 device and apparently the LG G2 is the best on the market right now. However, it seems like there is limited dev support for the G2, which is a critical issue for me. I plan to root and test new ROMs on the G2 (why else opt for such a powerful device if you don't plan to customize it to pieces) and i would also appreciate CM support and vanilla Android-based ROMs to get rid of the bloatware UI. But why is there a seemingly poor dev interest in this device? Is it due to the device being relatively new? Or is it due to LG's limited opensource support relative to Sony, HTC, etc? I just don't want to look back at this thread a few weeks from now and then regret my decision to buy the G2. Or is the Note 3 a better choice (its dev section is bristling with new ROMs, etc)? But i'd like an easily pocketable phone rather than a phablet or tablet. I also considered the Z1 as my new S800 device but its huge bezels are a turn-off for me. Maybe i should wait? I don't plan on waiting until 2014 though. :cyclops:
Dude forget the Z1 not only the body is huge for a 5'' screen but it's not even a 5'' screen because contrary to G2 the virtual buttons on screen are not transparent so it's like a 4.6'' usable
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Hi
I already own an HTC One but i'd like to get a Snapdragon 800 device and apparently the LG G2 is the best on the market right now. However, it seems like there is limited dev support for the G2, which is a critical issue for me. I plan to root and test new ROMs on the G2 (why else opt for such a powerful device if you don't plan to customize it to pieces) and i would also appreciate CM support and vanilla Android-based ROMs to get rid of the bloatware UI. But why is there a seemingly poor dev interest in this device? Is it due to the device being relatively new? Or is it due to LG's limited opensource support relative to Sony, HTC, etc? I just don't want to look back at this thread a few weeks from now and then regret my decision to buy the G2. Or is the Note 3 a better choice (it's dev section is bristling with new ROMs, etc)? But i'd like an easily pocketable phone rather than a phablet or tablet. I also considered the Z1 as my new S800 device but its huge bezels are a turn-off for me. Maybe i should wait? I don't plan on waiting until 2014 though. :cyclops:
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Have you checked the Android Development and carrier specific development forums for the G2 on XDA?
The phone has now been out for a whopping THREE WEEKS. Root, LOKI and TWRP were achieved within FIVE DAYS of release.
Sorry if I sound like Im venting but there are way too many threads questioning the phone because we dont have CM, 4.3, or KitKat yet.
And a lot of people (even me) who have come from a pure AOSP experience (like I have on my Gnex) are pretty darn satisfied with the phone as it is out of the box. Ive installed CleanROM mostly just for the debloating aspect, the UI remains virtually the same as stock.
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I'm running cm now. Alpha build. Dev support has been great.
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Have you checked the Android Development and carrier specific development forums for the G2 on XDA?
The phone has now been out for a whopping THREE WEEKS. Root, LOKI and TWRP were achieved within FIVE DAYS of release.
Sorry if I sound like Im venting but there are way too many threads questioning the phone because we dont have CM, 4.3, or KitKat yet.
And a lot of people (even me) who have come from a pure AOSP experience (like I have on my Gnex) are pretty darn satisfied with the phone as it is out of the box. Ive installed CleanROM mostly just for the debloating aspect, the UI remains virtually the same as stock.
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+1000000 to this. I always chuckle when I see people who are smart enough to check out XDA forums to learn more about the hacking community of their phone of choice but yet don't seem to click on the Android Development carrier sub forums to gauge how Android development is happening. Its like these people expect a CM ROM to show up 2 days after the phone is released or else the hacking developer community is a failure. Threads like this that complain about the lack of Android development should be removed immediately.
chrisexv6 said:
Have you checked the Android Development and carrier specific development forums for the G2 on XDA?
The phone has now been out for a whopping THREE WEEKS. Root, LOKI and TWRP were achieved within FIVE DAYS of release.
Sorry if I sound like Im venting but there are way too many threads questioning the phone because we dont have CM, 4.3, or KitKat yet.
And a lot of people (even me) who have come from a pure AOSP experience (like I have on my Gnex) are pretty darn satisfied with the phone as it is out of the box. Ive installed CleanROM mostly just for the debloating aspect, the UI remains virtually the same as stock.
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i am also thinking of picking up this phone
what i realised with LG phones is that they don't get much dev attention, like the G and G pro,
so i am not sure what will happen with this device
spazzy1912 said:
i am also thinking of picking up this phone
what i realised with LG phones is that they don't get much dev attention, like the G and G pro,
so i am not sure what will happen with this device
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Just ignore the working CM10.1 build located in the Android Development subforum for the LG G2, right?
Seriously guys, look around the forums and tell me if you really believe it isnt getting much dev attention.
electronical said:
Hi
I already own an HTC One but i'd like to get a Snapdragon 800 device and apparently the LG G2 is the best on the market right now. However, it seems like there is limited dev support for the G2, which is a critical issue for me. I plan to root and test new ROMs on the G2 (why else opt for such a powerful device if you don't plan to customize it to pieces) and i would also appreciate CM support and vanilla Android-based ROMs to get rid of the bloatware UI. But why is there a seemingly poor dev interest in this device? Is it due to the device being relatively new? Or is it due to LG's limited opensource support relative to Sony, HTC, etc? I just don't want to look back at this thread a few weeks from now and then regret my decision to buy the G2. Or is the Note 3 a better choice (its dev section is bristling with new ROMs, etc)? But i'd like an easily pocketable phone rather than a phablet or tablet. I also considered the Z1 as my new S800 device but its huge bezels are a turn-off for me. Maybe i should wait? I don't plan on waiting until 2014 though. :cyclops:
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We don't need anymore users that will complain of the supposed lack of dev support (which btw is not true at all)...so please do us all a favor and get a note 3, and enjoying blowing an Efuse and kissing your warranty good bye the minute you install a custom recovery.. :highfive:
djkinetic said:
We don't need anymore users that will complain of the supposed lack of dev support (which btw is not true at all)...so please do us all a favor and get a note 3, and enjoying blowing an Efuse and kissing your warranty good bye the minute you install a custom recovery.. :highfive:
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It's an entitled world these days, my friend.
to OP: Development will pick up. As others have mentioned the phone has been out for only a hot minute. The world wasn't built on impatience and here we are getting impatient over a phone.
There are already a few Roms out. Even if there were 100s of Roms. The miniscule differences are laughable but people rage about a new rom. Just relax and wait. You also have the n5 coming out which should ramp up development.
I was torn between the G2 and a Nexus 5. I am so happy with my stock experience G2, I'm not bothered about the 5 any more. The G2 is a fantastic phone.
Dev activity seems to have doubled in the last week, with more people saying that they are waiting for their phones to arrive.
LG have already posted the source for the current roms. I think they may have learned from the Nexus 4 that a decent dev scene equals a very popular phone.
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@op look at the AT&T Note 3 vs the AT&T G2 for example and tell me which one has the most support as of now. The G2 hasnt been out for thaf long and already has all the root, twrp, lokid plus 3 or 4 Roms if im not mistaken. This is great and itll get better with time. Gotta be patient. The G2 out of the box is beast and offers a lot of customization.
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Are LG usually good about releasing Sources? I've pre-ordered the G2, but I'm still on the fence about actually wanting the new Nexus.
If devs can put out a decent AOSP/AOKP/etc ROM for this device, I'd rather go with the G2 with it's superior battery.
WhiteZero said:
Are LG usually good about releasing Sources? I've pre-ordered the G2, but I'm still on the fence about actually wanting the new Nexus.
If devs can put out a decent AOSP/AOKP/etc ROM for this device, I'd rather go with the G2 with it's superior battery.
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sources are out pretty usuable ones some people say
can anyone who has owned a previous lg device tell me about OTA updates?
from what i heard, LG is very late and has a bad rep for ota updates? not too sure though
Dev support really won't be an issue from what I've seen.
chronicfathead said:
I was torn between the G2 and a Nexus 5. I am so happy with my stock experience G2, I'm not bothered about the 5 any more. The G2 is a fantastic phone.
Dev activity seems to have doubled in the last week, with more people saying that they are waiting for their phones to arrive.
LG have already posted the source for the current roms. I think they may have learned from the Nexus 4 that a decent dev scene equals a very popular phone.
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Also if the rumors are true and the Nexus 5 is based on the G2 then the dev support will most likely explode even more. Porting KitKat and such to the G2 would be a breeze.
chronicfathead said:
I was torn between the G2 and a Nexus 5. I am so happy with my stock experience G2, I'm not bothered about the 5 any more. The G2 is a fantastic phone.
Dev activity seems to have doubled in the last week, with more people saying that they are waiting for their phones to arrive.
LG have already posted the source for the current roms. I think they may have learned from the Nexus 4 that a decent dev scene equals a very popular phone.
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Amen G2 brother. Long live no bezel
darabo said:
Also if the rumors are true and the Nexus 5 is based on the G2 then the dev support will most likely explode even more. Porting KitKat and such to the G2 would be a breeze.
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Would porting to a Verizon G2 be more difficult since it's on CDMA?
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[Q] Should I buy the G2?

Hello, I want to replace my cell phone
I had by now OPTIMUS 2X and I wanted to know what you think about the G2 and should I buy it
My fears are:
With my first cell phone (OPTIMUS 2X) LG is not a concern for its customers and not went out updates
I still with incomplete ROMS and many cell phone problems.
I wanted to know if the company's approach has changed?
Should I buy the NEXUS5 or the GALAXY S5?
Maybe wait for the new HTC ONE?
Thank you.
Glad you're thinking about getting this phone. I personally love it. Devs here are good. LG seems pretty good right now with pushing out updates.
I just upgraded to stock 4.4.2 and it's awesome. Before that I had Cyanogenmod 11 on it and it was fast. Super fast. I'm thinking about going back to it because it was so perfect, I've never had any problems with it. Not that I have problems on the stock rom, I don't. I just personally prefer CM11. I've used Cyanogenmod since CM6 on my HTC Hero.
Here lately I've had the s4 and the HTC one, now this. This runs circles around the other two. The one is definitely built better than this phone, but the screen is smaller and the camera imo is not as good. I love the 5.2" screen and the camera. The camera is a little slow but there are mods that make it better.
Its a cheap device too. You can get a brand new one from AT&T for $460, cheaper than any device I've ever seen. And it's better than the Nexus 5. Not as much support on the Rom and kernel side of things, but you can get by easily with great roms.
If you can hold out for a while, I'd see what the new HTC has to offer. If you're a fan of storage space and an easy way to personally fix or personalize your phone, I would wait for the s5. Samsung is great, always a go to option because of the big name. You can take apart and customize the phone and since its so popular the Rom and kernel selection is great. Here lately though they have been locking their bootloaders which is a pain for devs.
I personally would get this phone if you want to upgrade right now. Or wait for the g3 or the new HTC one. Both would be a great choice. Honestly you can't go wrong with any of today's new devices. They're all power houses.
Good luck choosing. Hope I helped some.
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OP, I think RIP hit it on the head with his response. Its just about what you need or want. I was like you in looking for a phone. I've had the G2 for about a week now and I have no regrets. I'm an HTC fan, but when I found out that they weren't going to present until the end of this month, I made a deal with myself. I was eyeing the G2 for a while. If I found it at a certain price in mint condition, I would buy it now and not worry about the new HTC. So my needs came down to performance at a price I couldn't refuse. Still would like to see the new HTC. You can't go wrong with this device however.
Scrib'd on my OG2
Don't think just go for it.
just ebayed my note 2 and got the lg g2. great decision! jump in, you wont regret it. great devs, put my first custom rom on with about an hour of ownership. simply love how fast and buttery this phone is!
I would recommend the lg g2 :good:
Past few years I have been through almost every high end android phone. :crying: Its personal preference on what you want and need. I have always like the vanilla android phones, just keep it simple plus they work. The lg g2 has an excellent design feel to it, I dont use a case on it and its pretty much the correct size I prefer. The screen bezel size is probably the best out of all the phones out currently. The best aspect to this phone is probably the battery!!! I can typically get up to two days of medium to heavy use of this phone without charging.
The lg UI is pretty solid, not too over powering of the basic android UI. I haven't rooted my phone yet and really dont want to, tired of flashing roms and all. The UI has been nice and I hope to keep this phone till I possibly go back to the iphone

Worth buying a g2 now?

hi guys.
i had a g2 some time ago and moved to a htc m8. but i liked the g2 a lot, very good battery and screen, and was really fast in kitkat.
i want to buy one for my father, he have a lumia 730 now and the device is ok but wp have too many problems and limitations, also a moto g 3rd gen is a little bit more expensive than g2.
i want to know if the device is still good or was ruined by updates, i never saw it running lollipop and it will probably not receive marshmallow. what do you guys think?
Lollipop on the g2 is perfect - the design is much cleaner and more intuitive. While I like vanilla kitkat more than vanilla lollipop, I hated kk on the g2.
If price is equal, the g2 is much better than the moto g(any generation). While the g2 a good phone, it's definitely not perfect and I would consider all of your available options - there are also a ton of newer flagship phones on the used market and chinese manufacturers are releasing new ones all the time which rival phones many times in price. If your father likes the design and button layout and you can get it for a good price, then it's fine. Either way, anything that isn't bottom of the barrel will be miles ahead of that lumia(or any windows phone, really).
There's a whole thread dedicated to this topic over here.

Should I buy an LG V20 or HTC 10????

I am a type of geek who like using a phone for long period of time(3.5years for my original moto g now).
I really like the hi-fi audio recording and quad-dac in the V20,but I am worrying about the software support of the phone.I don't want to stuck with outdated software over years of time to degrade the user experience.(retailers in my cities are selling H990N which cannot unlock BL)
So another alternative - HTC 10,come to my mind with some sacrifices,but come with countless dev support to keep me on par with latest android update.
So which one should I choose???
(they are both selling for about $400 USD in my country)
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I am a type of geek who like using a phone for long period of time(3.5years for my original moto g now).
I really like the hi-fi audio recording and quad-dac in the V20,but I am worrying about the software support of the phone.I don't want to stuck with outdated software over years of time to degrade the user experience.(retailers in my cities are selling H990N which cannot unlock BL)
So another alternative - HTC 10,come to my mind with some sacrifices,but come with countless dev support to keep me on par with latest android update.
So which one should I choose???
(they are both selling for about $400 USD in my country)
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Me personally, as a tinkerer, would go with which ever phone has support for BL unlock. However, if its primarily software support your worrying about the V20 will probably have the same life span as any other top tier smartphone in the same class, if not more. And with the release of Android O, google has confirmed they will stop upgrading the nexus devices first, and will rather update all android devices with updates as they come out. Google is also fighting the many vetting processes that Providers go through before releasing the update to your phones.
TL;DR: Both phones will have support for years to come, google has stopped updating nexus devices exclusively, and if you're worried about BL Unlocks, go with the one that's unlockable.
Edit: Forgot to mention Im almost certain the v20 has better camera hardware & software then the HTC 10 does, but that can be considered an opinion on the internet now a days so, do with it as you will.
Unfortunately Google, OEM's and Carriers mostly dictate what ends up on every phone. And cooperation between the three is often lacking, late, fragmented.
I did my research before getting my V20 so I don't have any expectations regarding newer firmwares, b/l unlock or rooting.
I'll take whatever comes along.
There's very little open development and what there is only covers a few variants.
Although the V20 is a fantastic phone I think you would be better going for the HTC or another similar device.
personally I would go with the v20, no doubt!!
a much better screen (unless you're one of the lucky 10% to find a Sharp panel, the Tianma looks quite awful...), a better dac, even if the aQstic dac on the htc10 isn't a bad choice at all; more ram; v20 was equipped with android N at the launch so my guess is it will be updated to android P
about the custom roms matter: I'm not sure how the dac would behave on a custom rom, so you better check before you decide!
LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
rubiicon59 said:
LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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This is my real concern here as I would definitely keep my device for more than 3 years(unless it gets into hardware bootloop), android updates is something important for me
(I use my tiny moto for so long as it gets 7.1.2 running flawlessly)
However,since I love the feature of V20 so much,it is going to be a tough choice
Yeah it probably is a tough choice. But it is your choice. My suggestion was in reply to your post.
The V20 is one of the best phones I've owned. I knew the state of play before I decided to get it. And I've no regrets.
rubiicon59 said:
LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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Lg has never bothered updating to any x.1 release, so I'm quite positive we won't see any 7.1.1 update... As I'm planning to keep this phone for a couple of years I'm hoping Lg will follow his usual 2 major updates policy anyway... we'll see!
. OK, seems you know more about LG's weird ways of doing things than I do. But I'm learning lol.
So, their flagship V20 the first to be released with Nougat out-of-the-box..... then update limbo until whenever they can be arsed....
Marvellous
I'd be happy with a couple of minor updates, at least security patches would be more pertinent.
Personally because you have a removable battery on the v20 I would say go for it.
Still_living714 said:
Personally because you have a removable battery on the v20 I would say go for it.
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As I'm a careless user who drop the phone more often than anyone else,the removable battery option just makes the phone less durable in drops...
But it has a mil spec drop resistant...
Gosh I can't make any choice?
zack1175 said:
As I'm a careless user who drop the phone more often than anyone else,the removable battery option just makes the phone less durable in drops...
But it has a mil spec drop resistant...
Gosh I can't make any choice?
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The removable battery doesn't affect it's durability, v20 is a bit different in that the back doesn't just pop off there is a button you have to press to remove it. The removable battery won't negatively affect durability.
I think the removable battery is important if you're going to keep your phone long term because the battery is likely the first component to degrade.
As far as updates go LG tends to support their phones for at least one major release (Android O in this case) which is what the majority of manufacturers do.
Google is the only company that tends to support their phones beyond a typical one major release, the Nexus 6 for example has gone from Lollipop (5.x) to Nougat (7.x).
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I say go with the V20 but ONLY after the V30 info has been released. The V30 might be a worthy upgrade so don't throw any money at the V20 yet.
xbmoyx said:
I say go with the V20 but ONLY after the V30 info has been released. The V30 might be a worthy upgrade so don't throw any money at the V20 yet.
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I can't purchase latest flagship as they are beyond my budget well over $200 USD...
(400USD VS 699USD for brand new phone)
I've dropped my phone 3x, the back pops off but it hasn't affected the phone or battery in any way. The phone only got minor scratches. Anyways, if the spare removable battery ? isn't important to you then get htc. I believe to truly enjoy this phone YOU HAVE TO have a spare battery. Battery life isn't that great but with a spare I don't care. We'll good luck
Yeah removable battery is key if you plan on keeping phone for 2+ years. Disassembling the whole phone just to change the battery as well as resoldering it is going to be a pain unless you are ok with dealing with the lost capacity from the battery due to age.
Resoldering?
Batteries are modular so there's no soldering required.
And many phones aren't all that hard to dismantle for battery access. Teardowns are readily available.
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Resoldering?
Batteries are modular so there's no soldering required.
And many phones aren't all that hard to dismantle for battery access. Teardowns are readily available.
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Could have sworn the Nexus 5x my buddy had was soldered when he went to switch out the battery. Maybe not I don't really remember as it's been awhile. That's pretty nice if so, still a pain having to take it apart compared to to just a couple of seconds to pop off the back of the v20.
Also doing a battery pull can be very helpful sometimes in the modding community when rooting and stuff. I've had to do it a few times on my s4 and note 4 back when I was flashing all sorts of different rooms trying stuff out.
Nexus 5x has a connector most phones use a connector but there are some devices that are soldered so it's not unheard of. The iPod nano battery replacement is an example of a battery that requires soldering.
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Wtf iPod Nano?
Some batteries are connected with a plug.
Some connect via spring contacts - V20 for example.
Modular: easy replacement if required, cuts service labour time etc..
I wonder how many recent devices have hard-wired batteries.

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