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Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Sounds like Verizon is a better choice for you phone wise, and t-mobile is your choice for coverage and pricing.
Although T-mobile has some andriod phones the other carriers have the top android/droid phones other than the nexus one. Now you have to find out what one is bigger to you and then figure a solution for the other. HTC will never give this phone anroid but it might be ported by a developer. But doesn't look like any time soon.
Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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Exactly. I had mixed feelings about this phone when I first got it, and felt the same way you did. I paid full price for it (because of my hatred for contracts) and felt like I had made a huge mistake and instantly wanted to buy a Nexus One so I could shelf this device. But as I got more involved with the development community and tried different ROMs and 3rd party apps, I began to love it, not only is the performance better, but it is much sexier than it was. I still plan on buying a Nexus One (fandroid ) but by no means am I going to excommunicate myself from this device.
WinMo 6.5 was like an ugly girl with a great personality. You want nothing to do with her until you get to know her
But seriously, do not give up on this phone before testing everything out with it
Thanks for the responses.
I think that i have found the main issue with my phone. I have spbshell on it and i feel restricted. I think im going to just try and make my own rom. with what suites me. I also realized that i have a phone fetish or something. In my collection i have a G1, MyTouch 3g 1.2, iPhone 2g, HTC Hero, HTC HD2, Samsung Behold 2. I have to many phones. most recent was the iPhone 2g and it is not as bad as i thought. i was thinking of getting a iPhone 4 but i cant. I need to find a way to make this hd2 work for me. I hate the battery life also. o well,i guess i could just make a small 2000mah battery pack. that would fix things.
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Seriously dude, check out some different ROMs, and try Cookie's Home Tab. CHT actually mods the stock Sense interface, which is likely to work much better/smoother, and with less restrictions. Most of the ROMs available get rid of all the bloatware, and add speed/stability to the device.
I was in the same situation as you... and was seriously considering returning my HD2 and picking up the N1 instead. However, after installing several tweak apps and flashing Dinik & Miri's new ROM, I'm VERY satisfied. Works smooth, looks great, and has a lot of the features that I wanted from Android.
It really pays to do your homework, and spend some time modding your device... it takes time and trial/error to figure out what works best for you, but I'm sure you can get your HD2 running as you hoped it would. Just spend some time scouring these forums, and you'll find lots of good info on how to get the most out of your device. It can be a bit overwhelming, as a lot of the info is scattered throughout different subforums, but I'm confident you can find what you're looking for.
Also, it would help to know what mods/tweaks you've done to your HD2 so far, so we make recommendations on what you can do to make you happy with it (I.E.- ROM version, .cabs installed, etc.)
I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
Glad to hear it worked out for you. I honestly love the HD2 and sleep with it nightly. But everyones different and uses different features. How you liking being a Machead?
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I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
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Sprint carries the HTC EVO 4G, which is the same as an HTC HD2 except running Android, with an 8mp camera that can shoot video in 720p.
I must admit I wish I had signed for that instead, but I'm stuck for 2 years.
Evo's a great phone I just feel it came out at the wrong time. I think by Christmas it will be old news and we may see dual core's. Had it come out at the same time as the HD2 I would be liking it better.
Should I hold off on getting the Aria in the hope of ATT picking up a High-end HTC Android device like the desire? I just having a feeling that I could be waiting awhile and I am ready to move to Android right now.
I have the HTC Touch HD fully modded to Sense and WInMo 6.5 but I am just ready to switch.
I have played with the Aria and I am just concerned with the Screen size. Its smaller than the one I have now.
Another concern is the battery life but I figured I would flash ATT bloatware battery draining stuff off the phone. Would it make a difference?
I just need help making my decision. I ahve played with it and it is zippy and fun except for the super sensitive dedicated buttons below.
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Should I hold off on getting the Aria in the hope of ATT picking up a High-end HTC Android device like the desire? I just having a feeling that I could be waiting awhile and I am ready to move to Android right now.
I have the HTC Touch HD fully modded to Sense and WInMo 6.5 but I am just ready to switch.
I have played with the Aria and I am just concerned with the Screen size. Its smaller than the one I have now.
Another concern is the battery life but I figured I would flash ATT bloatware battery draining stuff off the phone. Would it make a difference?
I just need help making my decision. I ahve played with it and it is zippy and fun except for the super sensitive dedicated buttons below.
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have you checked out the Samsung Captivate?
I've checked it out but the UI turns me off and since having an HTC Device, I don't think I could ever change. HTC has soooo much community support and the updating could keep the phone relevant long after it should be.
I read the post between the two. I just cannot get past the Captivates UI.
I'm in the same exact boat as you. I LOVE the packaging of the Aria - its rugged appearance with the rubberized grip, and the metal shiny trimmings on it. I think it looks a bit better than the Iphone 4 and way better than the samsung captivate. But the captivate kind of blows this phone away in terms of hardware, and when I was using the browser on the Aria in the AT&T store today, it seemed sorta glitchy. It wouldn't respond to double taps or zooming in sometimes and it seemed like it had to load a lot more than the captivate. I'm also really drawn to the Sense UI, as I currently have a TP and I like the sense. I don't know if I trust Samsung yet with all the HTC support out there... I'm also hoping for AT&T to pick up some slick HTC android device, but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon..
I was in the exact same boat a couple weeks ago. I ended up going with the Aria and I honestly don't regret it in the slightest. I'm not sure what your plans are as far as rooting and what not, but I have a clean eclair rom (No SenseUI) flashed and it runs even quicker than it did when I got it. I can't complain about battery life, I can always make it through the whole day (except the first couple, couldn't put it down ) and have some battery to spare, you may have issues when you initially get it, but you'll quickly see the reason is everything that auto-syncs does so VERY frequently and you can simply lower that time and see an improvement.
I have used the Captivate and it is quite impressive, but I also found the UI leaving something to be desired. And again, I don't regret buying my Aria over it (I'm still within the 30 day period in which I could potentially exchange my phone).
As far as waiting for another, I personally wouldn't hold my breath. I'm quite suprised AT&T has received what they have so far, I was beginning to think jumping ship would be my only way to get a decent android. My advice if you are truly torn, would be hold out as long as you can, keep an eye on any updates as far as AT&T and Android (I frequently use Google News sorted by date for this, quite effective) and when you can't wait any longer, go with the Aria/Captivate and hope you'll get lucky within those 30 days and get a release
aria has been my first jump to android from many years of htc winmo devices. Although the samsung has more impressive hardware, who's to say when it will be as customizable as HTC devices or rooted (if ever). The community support for HTC devices is unmatched and that alone is a selling point for me.
The aria is a SNAPPY device, I say it blows any previous devices I've had in the past and is by far the best phone I ever owned. I even like the small form as I was tired of carrying around bulk large devices (att tilt2). It's absolutely the best web browsing device I've owned to date. I've not experienced the lagged someone else mentioned and honestly am quite impressed with the speed of the entire device (including data speed.. clearly BLOWS away all my previous phones)
I got lucky, I was ready to ditch comcast so I when I walked into the att store I signed up for uverse (got a great deal) and ended up getting the phone for 99 bucks with no contract extension, so it was a no brainer for me.
I would just get HTC Aria!
I have been hoping to get an Android phone. However, many of the Android phones available in the market are just too big for my liking.
The HTC Aria is nice on size and specs. Definitely my choice. However, I do not live in the US, and HSDPA 850 and 1900 is not supposed in my country. Sigh... no 3G support for me.
I think there's nothing wrong with settling down with the Aria as many of us have. It's all user preference...if you like a big screen and high end specs, go with the Desire, smaller screen and lower tech specs (but not to be underestimated!), Aria.
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my contract just passed the 22 month mark, but im wondering if it would be a smarter idea to get the g2 and see what happens after the potential merger and what promotional deals i could get (if any). or i could be safe and get a g2x and be able to use both frequency bands of att and tmobile. I do realize that the g2x has a dual core, hdmi output, etc, but honestly specs dont matter that much to me; im perfectly content with the g2's good speed. theres also the fact that the g2 has a keyboard, while obviously the g2x does not. i currently have a g1, and i find it hard to switch to virtual keyboards. So guys, input?
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well, i personally love hard keyboards but after getting use to swype, i can honestly say I can do without a hard keyboard. I'd prefer the g2x simply because it will set you up for the future. I'm waiting for my upgrade and switching to the g2x. I love the g2 and all but soon enough, apps and all will be updated to support multi cores. Plus i think the g2x's screen is better, looks better i mean. Up to you
At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology. Phones like the G2X and other upcoming dual core superphones like the Galaxy S II (or Galaxy S Pro if you want a keyboard) should be the ones you're looking at.
I see no value in buying a phone that came out in October last year at this point. Don't get me wrong the G2 is an awesome phone and I really like it, but there's no reason to buy this old of a phone with all these great ones coming out.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year? I think a phone that comes out this month has a much better chance at that.
So little love for the G2 already? I'm shocked.
I have had mine for 5 months or so now but I honestly think If I was to upgrade from my old handset RIGHT NOW, I would either get the still G2 or wait for something else to drop from HTC with a hardware keyboard.
My last handset was a Hero and for the entire 8-10 months I had that I always regretted not getting a G1 ... (a) for the kb.... (b) for the dev support!!!!! There was always more going on with the G1 than the Hero.
I think I'll be content with my G2 for another 12months yet.
My wife just got a phone last week. We went into the tmobile store and personally i dont see anything better then a g2. g2x doesnt even count imo... it isnt in the G family on so many levels.
G2 is working great for me so she wanted a g2 also. Shes very happy with it, but then again she came from a motorola cliq lol.
You posted the same question in the Q & A subforum.
Cross posting the same question to multiple subforums is against forum rules, and unnecessary.
I have a G2 since December and my girl just got a G2 now. The reason she wanted a G2 was because she was switching to t-mobile and wanted a phone with a keyboard. We decided that the G2 was good enough for her as it was quick for what she does and has swype as well.
She got the G2 for free with no dataplan required so it was a good deal.
Sure a dual core phone would have been nice, but it would be overkill for her. Front facing camera is a nice feature, but she won't be using it much, or even at all. She didn't want to drop $200 for the latest phone and pay $30 dataplan for the next 2 years.
She just love to text, email and go on facebook. She came from an iphone 3G so it was a big upgrade imo.
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At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology. Phones like the G2X and other upcoming dual core superphones like the Galaxy S II (or Galaxy S Pro if you want a keyboard) should be the ones you're looking at.
I see no value in buying a phone that came out in October last year at this point. Don't get me wrong the G2 is an awesome phone and I really like it, but there's no reason to buy this old of a phone with all these great ones coming out.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year? I think a phone that comes out this month has a much better chance at that.
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He using a G1 currently... do you honestly think the G2 is outdated compared to his current phone? It will a GIANT improvement over a G1 and you get to keep the qwerty kb. Trust me, I even fired it up the other day and it was unbearable.... The G2X has nice guts but looks like a plastic pos from LG (typical) and the extra frequency won't freaking matter for 3 years+ The stupid merger will be blocked for a year and a half (at least) and another year and a half before your 3G towers are gone (you still have 2G after that). By that time, 3D phones will be becoming mainstream (or at least more popular) and dual processors will be improved while quads are arriving on tables. The G2 is a good choice for a couple of years. Hell, you can overclock to almost 2GHz! That's plenty fast for now and the near future. The only issue I see is RAM is low compared to newer high end models but the cpu makes up for it with a little OCing...
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At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year?
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Consider that this gentleman is still on a g1 which at this stage is genuinely outdated some two years after release. I think if he moved to the direct successor to this venerable handset he would be quite pleased. The brief overlay between release and the present day has merely allowed the dev community time to support the device. Instead, if he did what you suggest and get a g2x (which lacks a hard keyboard, something he seems fond of) he would have to wait some months for it to be cracked and the dev community to support it.
Not to mention that dual core phones are still relatively new tech. Even if the hardware is screaming fast, every dual core phone released so far has some sort of software issue and do you really genuinely believe that the carrier or vendor will be quick to patch these issues? Consider the Engadget review of the LG Optimus2x
Where we were left disappointed, however, was in the company's software execution. Neat little tweaks to Android's default interface failed to obscure the fact that the Optimus 2X is neither as responsive nor as stable as it should be. You might be able to rectify those flaws by installing one of the inevitable avalanche of custom ROMs that this device will benefit from, but we're here to review LG's own performance and we find the failure to deliver a reliable platform inexcusable.
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And the Atrix4g review
The Bad
Motoblur and AT&T bloatware onboard
Isn't running most recent Android release
Software can be slightly buggy
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Though speculating on the end product that HTC will produce is nothing more than conjecture at this stage, these types of commentary lead me to believe that despite the frankly staggeringly good physical hardware, albeit lacking the desired keyboard, the current iteration of dual core smartphones aren't really ready for the consumer market. Their battery life is acceptable, but that goes away when you really are trying to utilize the benefits of having a dual core setup in terms of snappy multitasking.
Get the G2 man. You'll be holding onto it for a while and whatever crop of phones ATT comes out with assuming this merger goes through will probably not live up to the high quality you'll find in the G2. Even now the Dev community is still supporting the G1 so as to if the G2 is going to be "relevant" in a year, that is a silly question. What about all those people who wish to stay off contract yet desire a decent handset at a cheaper price since it is a used model? Dismissing a handset offhand as being "old" and "outdated" despite obvious evidence against this assertion is both shortsighted and closed minded.
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She didn't want to drop $200 for the latest phone and pay $30 dataplan for the next 2 years.
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I hope no one here is paying 30 a month for unlimited. 20 dollars a month its called "android preferred" or something like that. 3 people included myself on our family plan have internet for 20 a month. Just ***** and moan and u can get it too.
things i dislike about the g2x.
no camera button
camera pokes out so uneven backside
i think the review say it has no lens cover so prone to dust
Not a big modding community yet.
I love my G2 and will be happy with it for at least the next 2 years. But, if I were getting a phone now, I would probably get the G2x or more likely wait for the Pyramid.
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things i dislike about the g2x.
no camera button
camera pokes out so uneven backside
i think the review say it has no lens cover so prone to dust
Not a big modding community yet.
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the g2x hasnt even come out yet, that was the optimus 2x, which had its own lg skin over it.
this phone, with the g in the g2x, is mostly stock android with a bit of bloatware put in. you cant say it has a small mod community when it hasnt even come out yet.
Here's really what it boils down to: do you need a physical keyboard or not? A physical keyboard is an absolute must for me, and regardless of the hardware specs I need that keyboard. Right now there just aren't a ton of options on the market, for whatever reason, for a great phone with a physical keyboard, but the G2 is a fantastic one, and easily the best on the market next to the Sprint/HTC Evo Shift (since it's the same internals as the G2 anyway). Remember, even flagships like the Xperia Play have nearly the same exact hardware as the G2, so it's not like it's a crappy phone or something, just not cutting edge any more.
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the g2x hasnt even come out yet, that was the optimus 2x, which had its own lg skin over it.
this phone, with the g in the g2x, is mostly stock android with a bit of bloatware put in. you cant say it has a small mod community when it hasnt even come out yet.
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Hardware wise its the same phone and will be the same subforum .just like the g2 AND desire Z , HTC leo AND the HD2.
Sure the specs on the G2x is amazing, but i would perfer my G2 over the G2x anyday. What I love about my G2 is that it has a beautiful qwerty keyboard & personailly the g2x looks like plastic. The G2 looks like a ****ing Rock. So which one do you rather have a big peice of crappy Plastic or a nice tough looking Rock.
Like others have said here is my list of importance.
1. physical keyboard (i must have it, i cannot do without it)
2. android os (duh...)
3. spec (finally my 3rd i would finally have to start looking at speed and memory)
Maybe the keyboard isnt important to you, if that is so then you have a much larger selection.
G2!
G2 all the way!
Once you've gone hardware keyboard you cant go back. The keyboard is really a big draw the phone has. There aren't really any negative traits about the G2, besides that it's just slightly older. The 800 mhz processor isn't a negative trait about the phone. HTC makes much higher quality phones that LG (in my opinion). And there is not really anything that the G2x has that the G2 doesn't, aside from being game-focused (or at least the T-Mobile website makes it sound game-focused.
My vote is for the G2 for sure.
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Sure the specs on the G2x is amazing, but i would perfer my G2 over the G2x anyday. What I love about my G2 is that it has a beautiful qwerty keyboard & personailly the g2x looks like plastic. The G2 looks like a ****ing Rock. So which one do you rather have a big peice of crappy Plastic or a nice tough looking Rock.
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A shiny rock But yeah, qwerty plus HTC and quality exterior beat LG anyday.
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My wife just got a phone last week. We went into the tmobile store and personally i dont see anything better then a g2. g2x doesnt even count imo... it isnt in the G family on so many levels.
G2 is working great for me so she wanted a g2 also. Shes very happy with it, but then again she came from a motorola cliq lol.
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I came from the cliq... I feel her pain. Dont get me wrong, that phone was like a better iPhone sacrificing the High-End games. But man if its 1 thing I learned from that lesson. Its patients, timing and the right manufacture.
The G2 has a few things no other phone tmobile to date has to offer. Total Openess. Means long community support. G1 still fully supported cause its pure google. Only other phone is the Nexus S which lacks Keyboard, no SDCard, and is Samsung.
Not a single Dual-Core phone is pure Google yet or even a popular HTC for that matter (Like the EVO). Now the Evo 3D would be a good by because itll be way ahead of every1 else, be purchased by many, and its HTC. Most importantly translate to a large Community Base/Support.
Soooo, I recently purchased a Note 3 and I'm MOSTLY happy with a lot of things about the phone... BUT the idea that we may never get an unlocked bootloader (SOOO annoying, had a Thunderbolt for the last two years and was really looking forward to getting CM again!) is making me question whether I should stay with my new phone or not. Looking for a little advice on keeping the N3 or getting something new:
Pros:
1.) The hardware is incredible. Coming from the Thunderbolt, this thing is insanely fast.
2.) The screen is awesome. The size doesn't bother me at all.
3.) Battery life!
Cons:
1.) Touch Wiz. I used to own an original Droid and LOVED the OS, eventually switching to CM for added features. Most of the stuff I dislike I can turn off, but there's a lot of bloat and dumb ideas here. (Why Samsung makes me turn up the volume and say I won't explode my head every time I plug in headphones is insane... I'M PLUGGING IT INTO MY CAR AND I'M NO LONGER 12 YEARS OLD.)
2.) The screen isn't big enough to use as an e-reader. This is not a huge issue, I had just HOPED it would be... BUT, since that's the case, I could easily switch to another phone and get a tablet too and not feel bad about it.
3.) Gaming... again, I had hoped the N3 would be able to provide gaming and e-reader and phone all into one device, but Android games are really just too shallow for me.
Soooo, what it really comes down to is if you guys think this device will be unlocked down the line OR if you think I could adjust it to make a more stock android/ AOSP/ CM type experience. If I was able to put CM on here I would be sitting pretty. I'm just worried it will turn into a situation like the Thunderbolt with limited updates and no real way to get new software...
If I did get a new phone, what would you guys recommend? I'm looking at the HTC One, Nexus 5, LG G2 and Galaxy S4. I haven't yet looked into which ones have fully unlocked bootloaders with decent roms, but that would be a deal breaker.
Thanks for any and all help, you guys are awesome!!
It sounds (to me) like you should get rid of it and get a phone that you can put CM on. I, personally, have never been a fan of CM. I like miui (haven't had that working 100% on a phone for probably 3 years now though) or heavily modded stock roms more. But as far as speed and battery life. This thing is awesome. Big screen is a + for me too. And it's got more features than I care to use or learn which is also a + I guess.
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Ultimately it all comes down to what you want. I mean, if it doesn't live up to your standards why keep it? It's your money to spend how you see fit. Buy something you feel will be worthwhile. If you're looking for the original Android experience the Moto X is a sweet phone and easy to carry and use.
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Just a little FYI, i came to the note 3 from a razr maxx, also a locked bootloader using safestrap. It is an officially supported device in the CM build. Sure an unlocked bootloader is great no matter the phone, but a really solid phone can sometimes trump that one little perk. Just a different opinion for your process. Good Luck.
This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
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This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
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I have to agree. I love the phone but my flashaholic status is slowly going away. When I had the TP, TP2, Evo, Evo 3D and Rezound I'd have a new rom almost every three days. Depending on what the devs put out. I have never been an AOSP guy so CM never really meant alot to me. I understand that guys want flexibility. I have heard guys say they couldn't stand sense on HTC just as people want TW off their phone. I love the N3 and it's a nice step up from the S3 I had previously. I might kingo and safe strap once I'm done moving just because but I'm really kinda liking not wiping and restoring my phone all the time too. I may have to change my xda button in my signature to just senior member..
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I came to the note 3 from note 2. I want super impressed coming from n2, but ultimately will keep the n3 and sell my n2. I have to all out because every time I touch my n2 I miss it. I just think it feels better in my hands them does the n3.
I'm so over flashing. I was flashing a new rom at least twice a week. I'm happy with tw. Flashing, imo, is a complete waste of time. To me it kind of sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of the Galaxy Note 3 and into a different phone simply because the boot loader is locked. If that is the case then yes I would try a phone that you could flash. I happen to have a Galaxy Note 2 with an unlocked bootloader and a stock rom on there if you are interested and it has all kinds of accessories.
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There are some great points in this thread. I have a note 2 that is pretty new to me. I absolutely love the phone and while I like the unlocked status, I feel I can get most of what I want from a phone with root and xposed modules. I like CM and AOSP ROMs, but the camera quality and options never seem as good with those builds. As a father, the camera has become one of the most important features of my smart phone. That said, I'm considering selling my N2 and HTC One and getting an N3, essentially committing to no more flashing.
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Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
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You had the exact same phones as me minus the tp.
Tp2, evo, evo 3D, rezound, N3.
Galaxy Note 3, HTC Rezound, HTC Evo 3D, HTC Evo, HTC Touch Pro 2, LG Voyager
Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
From what I have seen so far with this phone is a root with some theming is plenty. Just flashing kernels never really (to me) felt like they did anything. I came from the s3, so just rooting debloating with some greenify makes this phone amazing.
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I say keep your Note 3, root it, freeze/remove bloatware, and customize with Wanam Xposed. As far as your "CONS" go, it sounds like you're going to need a tablet in addition to the Note 3. What kind of gaming are you looking to do? Do you just want something that has a bigger screen/better hardware?
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Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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Just rooted, put xposed on there and wanam. Now I'm adjusting settings and debloating... things are looking up.
I'll sell u my mint verizon note 2..already unlocked running beans right now.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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+1 Imo custom stock roms were never considered actual developing in the early android days. They were more so considered themes and the guys creating them were called Chefs. Something changed in the last couple years...however AOSP is were "real development" exists. Xposed app has pretty much shifted things back the other direction allowing the end user to modify a stock rom fairly easy. That combined with a few apps like Ninja morph to modify the framework.res files and the end user can create a custom stock rom fairly easy. I mainly run beans because of the AOSP themeing and I tweak the rest in myself. Dont take me wrong I appreciate guys like Beans because its time consuming doing the things he does.
Anyone interested in trading for a verizon lg g2? Already rooted, too...
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After messing around with root, and xposed for a while, I'm less concerned that there won't be enough support on this device to do the things that I want. I do have a few more questions, though:
1.) Has anyone started a list of all the apps that come on the stock rom and which we can freeze or delete entirely? (I will happily start this thread if there's interest and support for it.)
2.) Does anyone know how to prevent the volume getting reduced after plugging in headphones? I use my phone for music in my car and would really appreciate it if I didn't have to turn up the volume every time I plugged it in. (Wanam has an option to prevent the warning pop up, but the volume still gets reduced.)
Well, about that time again. Had my ATT S4 for a year, and I had good and bad to say about it..
Hated not being able to get a bootloader unlock for it, being stuck on Touchwiz for a very long time gets irritating..
I have had a long list of phones since android came to fruition. I started with the G1 and never looked back. Hated apple and all they stood for and never wanted an iPhone, like most of us.
But its time for an upgrade and unfortunately AT&T doesn't have much to offer at this point in time. Just about the only phone worth getting with android has to be this phone right here, the G3. Ive never owned a LG phone, stuck with HTC until they burned the bridge, had the S4, and now I'm here.
My question, I suppose, is should I just get another android.. or maybe try that iPhone that everyone and their cousin has? I can't imagine going from android to Crapple.. but maybe it's a good change for a year? I hear mixed reviews about the LG OS, and it doesn't look too too unflattering. But it doesn't make me excited to get the phone, even with the fantastic hardware.
Can anyone here who has had the phone long enough to actually get used to daily life with it keep me grounded in the world of Android?
How is the battery life with the 3000mAh battery? How does the phone respond with the LG OS? How does the camera fare?
Irk.. I so don't want an iPhone but I don't want to be stuck in the same position I was with the S4, on a crap OS with nowhere to go, frustrated with myself for getting what I thought was a fantastic phone. I just want to be happy with my next phone. Cause Samsung effed that one up my last go round.
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You're asking a bunch of questions that can all be answered with the many, many threads around here and by doing your own research.
I guess I'm just looking for one answer:
Do you think you'd be happier with another flagship device?
I'm reading through all the threads, but it's the usual, bickering and sifting through it all for one or two good posts..
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You're asking a bunch of questions that can all be answered with the many, many threads around here and by doing your own research.
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Instead of crying answer his questions. He obviously did some research.
Anyways @OP
The phone is pretty good. The battery life will be better than the s4. The performance will be much better than the s4. The design is awesome.
The LG UI is very nice. Its simple and erogomic and does not look childish. It is also more functional with allot let bloat and gimmics. The phone feels really nice. The display is beyond sharp. Impossible to spot a pixel. The brightness is very good and the best part is that you get a 5.5 inch screen in a phone sized simarly to the S4. Its awesome. I had samsung for 4 years, will never look back. Its a nice new experience. Plus you get 3gb ram and 32gb storage standard. [emoji41]
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Instead of crying answer his questions. He obviously did some research.
Anyways @OP
The phone is pretty good. The battery life will be better than the s4. The performance will be much better than the s4. The design is awesome.
The LG UI is very nice. Its simple and erogomic and does not look childish. It is also more functional with allot let bloat and gimmics. The phone feels really nice. The display is beyond sharp. Impossible to spot a pixel. The brightness is very good and the best part is that you get a 5.5 inch screen in a phone sized simarly to the S4. Its awesome. I had samsung for 4 years, will never look back. Its a nice new experience. Plus you get 3gb ram and 32gb storage standard. [emoji41]
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Thank you for your response. I'm leaning toward the G3. Might hold my tongue for a week or two, so if I like it I can keep it, or return it in time to get the new iPhone on September 9th..
Or I might love the phone. Hoping I do. :good:
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Well, about that time again. Had my ATT S4 for a year, and I had good and bad to say about it..
Hated not being able to get a bootloader unlock for it, being stuck on Touchwiz for a very long time gets irritating..
I have had a long list of phones since android came to fruition. I started with the G1 and never looked back. Hated apple and all they stood for and never wanted an iPhone, like most of us.
But its time for an upgrade and unfortunately AT&T doesn't have much to offer at this point in time. Just about the only phone worth getting with android has to be this phone right here, the G3. Ive never owned a LG phone, stuck with HTC until they burned the bridge, had the S4, and now I'm here.
My question, I suppose, is should I just get another android.. or maybe try that iPhone that everyone and their cousin has? I can't imagine going from android to Crapple.. but maybe it's a good change for a year? I hear mixed reviews about the LG OS, and it doesn't look too too unflattering. But it doesn't make me excited to get the phone, even with the fantastic hardware.
Can anyone here who has had the phone long enough to actually get used to daily life with it keep me grounded in the world of Android?
How is the battery life with the 3000mAh battery? How does the phone respond with the LG OS? How does the camera fare?
Irk.. I so don't want an iPhone but I don't want to be stuck in the same position I was with the S4, on a crap OS with nowhere to go, frustrated with myself for getting what I thought was a fantastic phone. I just want to be happy with my next phone. Cause Samsung effed that one up my last go round.
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I personally love it. I too came from the S4 to the G3. The battery life is beyond anything I could of imagined (given I am rooted and have made cpu tweaks and removed AT&T bloat along with lg apps I'd never use). Bootloader unlock for this phone is looking very promising so hopefully that'll come soon (although an exploit has been shown that could possibly work on the S4 so I'd keep that one around for awhile longer if I were you). I didn't like the LG launcher at all so I switched to nova but then again I always use nova even if I'm on CM or AOKP. I made the switch to this phone purely for the specs not expecting to like the large size or anything else about it that much but I do love it. It won me over. Build quality, camera, screen res, battery life, again didn't expect to like it anywhere near as much as I do. I'd even go as far as saying I don't need bootloader unlock as I'm getting so much of what I want and need with stock firmware. One last word; don't switch to iphone. You won't like it, and you'll quickly notice its not even remotely capable of doing what you're used to easily doing on your android devices. For me iphones are nothing more than your pc desktop full of shortcut icons to apps that you feel are mostly useless. These are all my opinions of course and I don't treat them as facts nor do I expect anyone else to. And everyone's experience with their device is their own. Hope this helps you out on your decision.
Ps once Android L releases this phone is gonna be beyond what it is now and if/when we get bootloader unlock custom ROMs based off L are really gonna shine (especially CM).
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Thank you for your response. I'm leaning toward the G3. Might hold my tongue for a week or two, so if I like it I can keep it, or return it in time to get the new iPhone on September 9th..
Or I might love the phone. Hoping I do. :good:
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I think you will regret getting an iphone after having an Android phone. It will feel a bit locked down. Like someone put you in a cage.
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I personally love it. I too came from the S4 to the G3. The battery life is beyond anything I could of imagined (given I am rooted and have made cpu tweaks and removed AT&T bloat along with lg apps I'd never use). Bootloader unlock for this phone is looking very promising so hopefully that'll come soon (although an exploit has been shown that could possibly work on the S4 so I'd keep that one around for awhile longer if I were you). I didn't like the LG launcher at all so I switched to nova but then again I always use nova even if I'm on CM or AOKP. I made the switch to this phone purely for the specs not expecting to like the large size or anything else about it that much but I do love it. It won me over. Build quality, camera, screen res, battery life, again didn't expect to like it anywhere near as much as I do. I'd even go as far as saying I don't need bootloader unlock as I'm getting so much of what I want and need with stock firmware. One last word; don't switch to iphone. You won't like it, and you'll quickly notice its not even remotely capable of doing what you're used to easily doing on your android devices. For me iphones are nothing more than your pc desktop full of shortcut icons to apps that you feel are mostly useless. These are all my opinions of course and I don't treat them as facts nor do I expect anyone else to. And everyone's experience with their device is their own. Hope this helps you out on your decision.
Ps once Android L releases this phone is gonna be beyond what it is now and if/when we get bootloader unlock custom ROMs based off L are really gonna shine (especially CM).
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Ive got to say, this has been a helpful reply. And exactly where I am coming from. Thank you. Will be getting this phone tomorrow
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Ive got to say, this has been a helpful reply. And exactly where I am coming from. Thank you. Will be getting this phone tomorrow
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Glad I could help. I'm gonna see if this weekend I have some time to put a thread together listing everything I've modded to get the performance that I get as well as what I've don't to try and squeeze as much battery life as possible so definitely look for that.
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Glad I could help. I'm gonna see if this weekend I have some time to put a thread together listing everything I've modded to get the performance that I get as well as what I've don't to try and squeeze as much battery life as possible so definitely look for that.
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Will definitely look for that. My warranty exchange will be here Friday, and l am taking it straight to the Att store and getting the G3. CAN'T WAIT!!
@OP LG ui is defiantly way better than crap wiz (I have used S3), I am an G2 user & love it.