Could Battery Managers conflict with each other? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello there guys. I was thinking the other day about how the phone has a power saver mode. I also have the Battery Guru installed. I'm also giving Lux LIte Dash to see if I like it. Couldn't all of these be conflicting with each other thus limiting my ability to save power? I love the battery life on my device. I'm just wondering if I get rid of one of these, I could be saving even more.

Xpiatio said:
Hello there guys. I was thinking the other day about how the phone has a power saver mode. I also have the Battery Guru installed. I'm also giving Lux LIte Dash to see if I like it. Couldn't all of these be conflicting with each other thus limiting my ability to save power? I love the battery life on my device. I'm just wondering if I get rid of one of these, I could be saving even more.
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Just my opinion. I have never found a battery saver app that actually worked as intended. Most use more battery. Greenify is the closest thing that keeps apps from running and doesnt use much juice. As far as having multiple i think its a little over the top. Just use one you think works or none at all you will be beyter off. Coming from someone that came from a gnex with horrible battery. Nothing worked except a bigger battery. Lol. Good luck
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Battery moniter?

Can someone recomend a good moniter for the battery. My battery seems to die really fast the past couple days and the stock battery screen doesn't seem to be very different than when I first got it.
I'm looking for something that showss me stats, not something that tries to conserve power automatically.
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EricSS619 said:
Can someone recomend a good moniter for the battery. My battery seems to die really fast the past couple days and the stock battery screen doesn't seem to be very different than when I first got it.
I'm looking for something that showss me stats, not something that tries to conserve power automatically.
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There's an app in the desire forum, circle battery mod for non-root users (it shows up on the left portion of your status bar) It works well if all you want is a true number reading.
If you want statistics for what's killing your battery, the Spare Parts app has the best output I've seen.
Battstatt is very nice. There's a free version, and a paid version.
A less convenient, definitely free method: Dial *#*#4636#*#*. This will bring up the Testing screen. From there you can go under Battery information and see a bunch of information about... the battery! Including percentage, time since boot, temperature, ...
Battery Indicator free is in the market and doesnt use any battery while running. Everything else I tried used a little battery up. I use the circular battery version that smoothtaste is talking about and its awesome. It is based off of battery indicator but cant be found on the market anymore. I have the APK but not sure if I can upload it even though its freeware. If its allowed I can get your a copy of it.
Edit: Here you go
You can download juice plotter and it graphs battery drainage over time.
I went from battery indicator pro to battery notif. Smaller size and same icon in notification bar but doesn't give much in the way of stats.
Plus I can see the battery level without unlocking the phone.
herbthehammer said:
I went from battery indicator pro to battery notif. Smaller size and same icon in notification bar but doesn't give much in the way of stats.
Plus I can see the battery level without unlocking the phone.
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I also use that, it doesn't seem to hurt my battery any. The free version is ok, but I opted for the paid version and haven't been disappointed.
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JuiceDefender - real or not?

So I've been testing out this app for a while. I have Ultimate and I've been trying many different things. So far the conclusion I've came to is that this app does NOT save battery, at least for my usage.
I've done my testing using the 'balanced' state. I think it's because the app spends more battery turning on/off data and doing all of its things than it saves by having data off for a while.
What results do you guys have? Have you actually noticed any improvement on battery life?
If you want to help, please use GSam Battery Monitor and take screenshots of full battery cycles - one with JD and one without it. This will help us understand if, and how much, JuiceDefender actually helps.
JuiceDefender is real and the concept of it is real as well but it hasn't been updated in a very long time and is very unlikely to work nicely with Android 4.0 and above.
It's better in the end to just turn off the things you don't use manually.
it works best if you are rooted.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
it works best if you are rooted.
John.
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I am rooted - may I ask what's the difference for JD?
In any case, I would still like to get help if people are willing to actually test this, since I've been getting reduced battery life with Balanced JD (I've started testing myself).
Basically when your rooted juice defender can change system settings, when i cannot when you are not rooted.
I use an free app called "wakelock detector" and remove or disable any apps with high wakelocks, basically they keep waking the phone up when it is asleep and using the lowest power level, like over night.
John.

Battery drains fast and problems with charger

Hi,
after I overclocked my device and used custom ROM to reduce lag the battery was drains fast and overheat and I used the factory image(in android 4.3) to get the stock kernel and stock ROM my device not overheat anymore but still drains fast and the charger sometimes when my device is on charges slooowly and sometimes while it plugged in it don't charge it decrease 1 percent and stop charging while playing any game and the charger smell like burnt and it charge first while my device is off but that didn't happen to me before the overclock,
I want to know I there are way to increase battery life and fix the charger problem,
Thanks.
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Any one please
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A Few Apps For Battery Life
There are a couple things I would do, first is you need to monitor what is draining the battery. One thing to note though is your OC is obviously going to drain the battery quicker than stock and your governor setting could also affect this a lot. I am guessing your custom ROM has a non-stock kernel with it, if not I would recommend Franco's Kernel (r75 is the latest) and he even has an app that will keep you updated and flash for you (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel&hl=en) there is also a free version of that. Franco's paid app has a built in power settings option that lets you adjust power usage per app that could be extremely useful in your case. However I would do some monitoring first and make sure a live wallpaper or a hardware monitor is not draining more battery than you think it is.
I've used these two apps and both do a great job of letting you know what is using the battery most during load/idle/sleep:
Better Battery Stats:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
Go Power Master:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.gowidget.gopowermaster
Android Tuner (does A LOT for the price, including battery monitoring), If you are rooted this is almost a must buy:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.at&hl=en
Also in Android Tuner and I think Better Battery Stats (I've uninstalled it since I got Android Tuner) there is an option to turn on a fast charge option. Fast Charge will decrease the time to charge the battery, however I haven't used this feature because it sounds like there must be a catch (more power to the battery quicker isn't going to be at stock spec power delivery from charger to battery). If my N7 was having trouble charging, I might consider it.
Really the first thing you need to do is install one of the monitoring apps and watch what is using your battery the most and if something is using it a lot that you didn't even realize. I was using UseMon to monitor and it was using 36% of my total battery usage, so I ditched it.
Then you have some things you can do to save your Battery
You have Juice Defender which has some great options in it if you are draining the battery too quickly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender&hl=en
It comes in 3 versions Free, Plus and Ultimate.
One of my Favorites that saves the battery is Lux Dash:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux&hl=en
There is also a free version, but this is easily worth the few bucks. It uses the camera to read the lighting of the environment you are in and based on the ratio you set, will dim or brighten your display. This method trumps any of the built in features, like NVIDIA's option.
Those two apps will help your battery a lot, especially if you also use the monitoring programs to see what is draining the battery so quickly.
You can read this article on some apps for monitoring and increasing battery life: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...s-that-prolong-your-smartphones-battery-life/
and: http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/b...pps-for-analyzing-and-improving-battery-life/
Note these reviews/articles mention a lot of apps I have never tried nor mentioned, so be sure to read instructions on use carefully.
If this helped you at all please don't forget to give me a Thanks
mahmoudgamal1 said:
Any one please
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Just restart your N7. The battery draining issue would go away for about 5 days. This trick works for me
Lol, I am sure he has restarted his device since this started.
Choriandus said:
Just restart your N7. The battery draining issue would go away for about 5 days. This trick works for me
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NCSUZoSo said:
There are a couple things I would do, first is you need to monitor what is draining the battery. One thing to note though is your OC is obviously going to drain the battery quicker than stock and your governor setting could also affect this a lot. I am guessing your custom ROM has a non-stock kernel with it, if not I would recommend Franco's Kernel (r75 is the latest) and he even has an app that will keep you updated and flash for you (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel&hl=en) there is also a free version of that. Franco's paid app has a built in power settings option that lets you adjust power usage per app that could be extremely useful in your case. However I would do some monitoring first and make sure a live wallpaper or a hardware monitor is not draining more battery than you think it is.
I've used these two apps and both do a great job of letting you know what is using the battery most during load/idle/sleep:
Better Battery Stats:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
Go Power Master:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.gowidget.gopowermaster
Android Tuner (does A LOT for the price, including battery monitoring), If you are rooted this is almost a must buy:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.at&hl=en
Also in Android Tuner and I think Better Battery Stats (I've uninstalled it since I got Android Tuner) there is an option to turn on a fast charge option. Fast Charge will decrease the time to charge the battery, however I haven't used this feature because it sounds like there must be a catch (more power to the battery quicker isn't going to be at stock spec power delivery from charger to battery). If my N7 was having trouble charging, I might consider it.
Really the first thing you need to do is install one of the monitoring apps and watch what is using your battery the most and if something is using it a lot that you didn't even realize. I was using UseMon to monitor and it was using 36% of my total battery usage, so I ditched it.
Then you have some things you can do to save your Battery
You have Juice Defender which has some great options in it if you are draining the battery too quickly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender&hl=en
It comes in 3 versions Free, Plus and Ultimate.
One of my Favorites that saves the battery is Lux Dash:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux&hl=en
There is also a free version, but this is easily worth the few bucks. It uses the camera to read the lighting of the environment you are in and based on the ratio you set, will dim or brighten your display. This method trumps any of the built in features, like NVIDIA's option.
Those two apps will help your battery a lot, especially if you also use the monitoring programs to see what is draining the battery so quickly.
You can read this article on some apps for monitoring and increasing battery life: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...s-that-prolong-your-smartphones-battery-life/
and: http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/b...pps-for-analyzing-and-improving-battery-life/
Note these reviews/articles mention a lot of apps I have never tried nor mentioned, so be sure to read instructions on use carefully.
If this helped you at all please don't forget to give me a Thanks
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Thnx, it also worked with ur apps and after I turn off my device for long time.
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No problem man, glad I could give you some useful advice!

Please explain!!!

Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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if your doing graphic intensive stuff on the internet it will destroy your battery. The fact your chrome used almost as much battery as your screen makes me believe there's something wrong there..
My chrome browsing basically just consists of normal web pages and some embedded videos on news and sports sites. Is that enough to cause that much damage?
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It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
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LeftyGR said:
It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
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I would also consider giving chrome a break and using a different browser to see if you battery life improves. I'm currently using Boat Browser but there are several browsers.
junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
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Yeah I agree that something just doesn't seem right with Chrome using about as much battery as your screen. Try another browser, make sure you clear your recent apps, and turn off anything that you are not going to be using. I turn off all of the touch sounds and haptic feedback, as well as smart stay and air gestures, etc..I never really seemed to get the battery life that I thought I should be getting whenever I was on the Stock ROM.
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
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junior_mafioso said:
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
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I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
Xanza89 said:
I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
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I have the Greenify Donation app, and love it. Stopped using Chrome because it was tearing my battery life down, using the Stock Browser and Boat Browser at times. Greenify also helps with some other apps that just keep running even though I didn't use them during the day. The only thing I have as an exception, is my Blackberry Messenger to communicate with my family abroad during the day and that app has been behaving nicely. Everything else, minus HD Widgets, has been Greenified, and I can go all day (unplug at 7A, plug back in around 9P with plenty of juice left.
So this is what I get after a long period using wakelock detector. Does anyone have any insight as to what this all means. What does the x538 refer to and how does this app show how it's affecting my phone? One is the CPU wake lock and the other is the screen.
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The 538 is how many times it has woken the phone up (wake lock).
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Is that amount excessive is the question?
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[Snapdragon batteryguru vs Stamina mode]

Dose anyone use snapdragon batteryguru?
Or stay with default function, namely stamina mode?
Or both together?
I just installed yesterday and it is on the way learning.
So, if some of you have already tried some combination of those, I am appreciate it in giving me feedback.
Also, I will give you feedback after testing.
Best regards,
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I have used batteryguru before didn't notice much improvement and from what the app was saying the apps you don't use often it stops them pushing the notifications etc until you load the app however I was still having notifications coming from all the apps on my phone. Your milage may vary though depending on what you use your phone for.
I was using JuiceDefender until I've been told that it doesn't do me any good. I thought it was a pretty nifty app for its functionality to enable and disable Wi-Fi and mobile data when I need it or not...
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I have been used for 1 month. I guess batteryguru did not help me much. So, I just uninstall it.
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I also had tried it on my HTC Butterfly (Global version of Droid DNA) and my LG G2, noticed no improvement in battery life.
Also, I just recognize that battery recharge time longer when I used it.
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I think is better to use both
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GigaSPX said:
I was using JuiceDefender until I've been told that it doesn't do me any good. I thought it was a pretty nifty app for its functionality to enable and disable Wi-Fi and mobile data when I need it or not...
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Why would you think, that JuiceDefender does not do any good?
I use it and actually have very good results with it...
bill340 said:
Why would you think, that JuiceDefender does not do any good?
I use it and actually have very good results with it...
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Well, peers have told me:
1. Battery saving apps are pointless with how advance Android is nowadays. Also especially since Sony has already included enough battery saving software in their devices.
2. The battery saving app keeps running, so that itself drains the battery.
What do you think?
GigaSPX said:
Well, peers have told me:
1. Battery saving apps are pointless with how advance Android is nowadays. Also especially since Sony has already included enough battery saving software in their devices.
2. The battery saving app keeps running, so that itself drains the battery.
What do you think?
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1 is correct
2 is partially correct, depends on which power saving app, I didn't notice any real drain from Battery Guru, though it didn't help increase it either.
I've never used Battery Guru before, but I think I'd rather purchase Tasker to do the job of location based Wi-Fi for my phone.
Would it drain battery or such if I have that act like juice defender/battery guru instead?
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Ive used battery guru for a while, but looks like it doesnt do much. So i uninstall it already.
With the latest version of Stamina I can't really see what BatteryGuru can do to further improve things.
The Z3 effectively turns just about everything off in standby if you ask it to, firing up when you start using the phone. Battery Guru attempts to learn your usage, so it will still allow data at certain times and restrict completely at others.
I'm very happy with Stamina and uninstalled Battery Guru some time ago. I still have it on some other devices tough, especially anything that doesn't have any native power saving functions.
I do wonder how Sony is going to combine Stamina with the Lollipop battery saver, which is a simple on or off - along with the horrid orange bars. That's very much all or nothing with far less intelligence, so maybe Sony will not use that at all.

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