JuiceDefender - real or not? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've been testing out this app for a while. I have Ultimate and I've been trying many different things. So far the conclusion I've came to is that this app does NOT save battery, at least for my usage.
I've done my testing using the 'balanced' state. I think it's because the app spends more battery turning on/off data and doing all of its things than it saves by having data off for a while.
What results do you guys have? Have you actually noticed any improvement on battery life?
If you want to help, please use GSam Battery Monitor and take screenshots of full battery cycles - one with JD and one without it. This will help us understand if, and how much, JuiceDefender actually helps.

JuiceDefender is real and the concept of it is real as well but it hasn't been updated in a very long time and is very unlikely to work nicely with Android 4.0 and above.
It's better in the end to just turn off the things you don't use manually.

it works best if you are rooted.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
it works best if you are rooted.
John.
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I am rooted - may I ask what's the difference for JD?
In any case, I would still like to get help if people are willing to actually test this, since I've been getting reduced battery life with Balanced JD (I've started testing myself).

Basically when your rooted juice defender can change system settings, when i cannot when you are not rooted.
I use an free app called "wakelock detector" and remove or disable any apps with high wakelocks, basically they keep waking the phone up when it is asleep and using the lowest power level, like over night.
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I was wondering how I could extend that battery life on my DINC? Any suggestions and tips would be great.
Ah yes, the battery issue. One I am all too familiar with.
Easy:
For whatever reason our phones charge to 90% and stop there. To correct this, you can either charge while the phone is off or do what we call a bump charge. Bump charging involves charging the phone to "full" while its on (the light should be green) and then turning it off while still plugged in. The light will then change to orange again for 30+ minutes and then green again. You will then Really be fully charged.
Also make sure you have GPS and Bluetooth off when you aren't using them. This will help a ton.
There is an option in Settings - Wireless & networks - mobile networks - called "enable always on mobile data". Unchecking this will drastically help save while the phone is asleep on the 3g network. However, doing this will affect how often you receive updates to chats and sync items when the phone is sleeping. To me it isn't a big deal since if I'm not using the phone why should it be working, but everyone is different!
Finally, a rogue app might be nomming away at your battery. An app from the market called System Panel will monitor how much battery each app is eating. Its free initially but if you want it to monitor over time in the background it does cost. However it is definitely worth it since its a great app and useful for any android owner.
Intermediate (has cost):
Evo batteries fit in our phones! The fit is a little tight but it works just fine. Our stock batteries have 1300mah of capacity which is a bit on the low side. The evo battery has 1500, so it's an hour or so better. You can buy them cheap off ebay (OEM Evo Battery) for around $15.
Conversely, there is the official extended capacity battery for our incredibles with a massive 2150mah. The trade off is that it adds bulk to your phone and costs a lot (around $50). There is the third party seidio battery which adds even more capacity (3500) but adds even more bulk.
Advanced:
Are you rooted? There are kernels out there that are undervolted like Hydra kernel, adrynalyne's undervolted and kingklick's voltage scaling kernel. Everyone has differing experiences with them so there's not a solid "best" so to speak. You can flash these kernels using the clockworkmod recovery. This will all be nonsensical if you're not into the Modding scene.
Also if rooted, you can underclock the processor which, depending on the kernel, can help drastically save battery. You can set profiles to have the cpu work at a minimum speed while the screen is off. Kingklick doesn't advise using setcpu with his kernels and it straight up wont work with hydra's, but it can do wonders on any others.
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Depending on your activity, you should expect 4-5 hours of 3g awake usage and around 5-6 if you're mostly on wifi using the stock battery. 3g can be a battery drain if you're in an are with inadequate service.
Hope this helps!
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turning off gps doesn't matter all that much. GPS isn't called upon unless you have an app using it. I have mine on most of the day (for tasker profiles) and have no issue.
Use WiFi when available, its quicker than 3g and takes less battery.
download setCPU (from xda) and make a profile for screen off max/min = 400/245 or something like that.
i have 'always on data' checked, no issues for me
kernels help a ton, kk#5 is a beast.
I'm running uncommon sense, kk#5 and the above settings. I'm on 20 hours unplugged with 35% less, standard usage. -- not bump charged, charged while on to 100%
isn't the system panel app like a task killer? and from what i've read task killers are pretty pointless with froyo......however i have noticed that my phone is constantly running with about 140mb of ram free, i don't know if this is usual or if something is wrong?? i just got my Dinc so i'm new to all the tweeks and tricks, i do have mine rooted though. i'm not that up on changing roms and kernals though so i'm just trying to find out what all i can do to help my battery without having to buy a bigger one. any help would be greatly appreciated!!
If you are rooted and aren't comfortable with flashing ROMs and kernels, look at setcpu that was mentioned before, and search for instructions to remove the stock apps that always startup on their own in the background. Unless you actually use them, then you can't really do that obviously. I don't have any times on how long it lasted before and how long it last now but I do know its improved. I have mine at a processor clock speed of 500mhz and I don't see much lag time unless I'm really running a lot of things. I'm on WiFi listening to Pandora and I'm not experiencing keyboard lag while typing this.
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is there any risk to my phone from running setcpu ? i JUST got it and really don't want to break it already!! hahaha
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is there any risk to my phone from running setcpu ? i JUST got it and really don't want to break it already!! hahaha
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no...the max it'll run is 1.19 ghz. worst that will happen is a bootloop which can be fixed through nandroid.
Just increment a little at a time. I usually run mine at 1.075 ghz w/ on demand.
screen off profile max/min - 450/245
I use JuiceDefender on my Incredible and believe it or not it really works. It's turns off your data while the phone is on sleep mode so no battery is being drained. I get at least 5 hours extra battery life. You also get other features that come along with it so just give it a try It's free!
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isn't the system panel app like a task killer? and from what i've read task killers are pretty pointless with froyo......however i have noticed that my phone is constantly running with about 140mb of ram free, i don't know if this is usual or if something is wrong?? i just got my Dinc so i'm new to all the tweeks and tricks, i do have mine rooted though. i'm not that up on changing roms and kernals though so i'm just trying to find out what all i can do to help my battery without having to buy a bigger one. any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Yes system panel CAN be a task killer but I do not suggest using it as such. Instead, it does a great job monitoring how much CPU each app uses so you can take educated action.
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turning off gps doesn't matter all that much. GPS isn't called upon unless you have an app using it. I have mine on most of the day (for tasker profiles) and have no issue.
Use WiFi when available, its quicker than 3g and takes less battery.
download setCPU (from xda) and make a profile for screen off max/min = 400/245 or something like that.
i have 'always on data' checked, no issues for me
kernels help a ton, kk#5 is a beast.
I'm running uncommon sense, kk#5 and the above settings. I'm on 20 hours unplugged with 35% less, standard usage. -- not bump charged, charged while on to 100%
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1. If you use location based services and have GPS on, it will use the GPS module quite a bit. This is certainly a battery drain.
2. If you dont have any issues with always on mobile data then you must be in an area with good coverage. For me if its left on it drains my battery quite a bit because I'm in a flaky coverage area.
Everyone's phone is different though. Finding what works and what doesn't is the first step to perfection. I just installed the new skyraider sense and my battery life has been ultra fantastic. It works great for me, but I know others dont have that success.
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consistently mediocre battery life even after calibration and undervolt

I just can't seem to crack the battery life conondrum. I've calibrated (charge to 100%, wipe stats, then full cycle).
If I'm listening to music its consistently I'm sucking ~10% an hour, if idling ~4-5%. Which means I'm getting around same battery life as my old nexus one – mediocre, I end a working day with around 30-40%. If I want to go out after work i have to remind myself to charge during the day...
Right now I'm even running a mild setcpu undervolt (with faux123 kernel) and profile (screenoff max cpu 600mhz) but seeing not much improvement if any.
I am on gingerbread AT&T radio so thats not it either... any tips aside from 'use juice defender' (which I don't want to do as I want always on data instant push etc., I know juice defender basically shuts your data radio off)?
Note this is the same with stock gingerbread as well as the ROM and kernel I'm currently on (redpill, faux123 kernel)
I've done everything you have and i'm on a Bell Atrix....i have been looking into this for about a week or more and i just can't crack it either!!! it's driving me nuts and i have spent sooo many hours googling, searching xda and other sites and have tested MANY different methods and still can't seem to figure it out. For me i know its the phone idle...but what it is i can't tell, i have SystemPanel monitoring as as well as watchdog which i alternate with. Flashed the battery calibration fix and calibrated the meter blah blah blah....driving me nuts and i know its not a faulty battery because before i unlocked and flashed 2.3.4 i could get about 30 hours with heavy to moderate use!!!
For the love of god i wish a team of dev's would look into this!!!!!!!!
Honestly none of the faux kernels worked for me... Try gobstopper, stock kernel with watchdog was the only combo to give me good battery life. Not to mention lock sounds works properly, and its fast. All bell users should use it. Seriously... 19+ hours worth moderate usage.
phone idle is still high but it seems to be a slow drain.
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a.) not an option for me, AT&T phone
b.) I'm not seeing faux's kernel do any worse than stock kernel, I don't think its the kernel?
c.) yeah I tried system monitor as well, the highest process was opera at 3%.... 3 lousy percent lol
1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.
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1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.
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all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P
dLo GSR said:
all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P
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Well, if you keep data or wifi turned on at all times, then there's no way you can have something more than mediocre battery life, sorry.
It's not the Atrix'es fault, its the brutal truth with all modern smartphones.
1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.
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1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.
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Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in
I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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The people in this thread have listed all known steps to improving battery life.
If you really follow all of these guidelines and have bad battery life, you might want to try a battery replacement.
If you are sure your battery is not the problem, you might also want to try a couple of custom roms. Who knows maybe you will get lucky with one of them.
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Is there any way to log off from motoblur once you are in so you can stay offline? Of course any connection that gets cut will increase battery life.
I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.
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I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.
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Battery life is a very subjective issue. One person might be fine with the phone, while the other person will say battery life is terrible with the very same phone.
Besides the obvious drainage problems, it all depends on how you use the phone.
Honestly the best thing that worked for me was turning off "Syncing".
I currently have 3G on, BT on, ETC...
Syncing in the background killed my battery life. Now I usually make it through the day without the need for a top-off...
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Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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The treo 650 also had a thickness double that of the Atrix .
The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.
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The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.
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This is the first time I am reading this sort of opinion, though I have read countless info on the subject.
If you want to make such a strong point, you better have source to back up your opinion (article, studies, other source of proof, etc).
These threads are all USELESS without NUMBERS.
Like another person with common sense already stated in this thread, you need to provide numbers.
GB has this improved tool (over 2.2) where you can see how your battery is wasting its juice. Watch those numbers for a few charges and then POST THEM TO COMPARE.
Saying your battery sucks without giving any numbers is like calling a color ugly.
(just in case someone misses the points, without numbers it's hard to compare, since it mainly becomes an opinion at that point)
P.S.- Please don't post "My battery lasts for over 9000 hours." and think that's enough info. Use your head.

The key to good battery life on SGS 2 is

persistence (with a modicum of technical ability).
Ever since I received my SGS 2 I've been plagued with "poor" battery performance - The stock ROM that came with it wouldn't stay charged longer than 12 hours when I was doing nothing with it and barely 6 hrs when I used it. I quickly discovered that Samsung had released a newer version via KIES, updated it and it improved it, not life changing but just enough to see me through the working day.
I was also disillusioned with the stock ROM that came with the phone - too much "bloatware" that I'd never use. Found this forum and started by rooting the phone, then using CWM and Titanium Backup to make full backups before moving on to loading custom roms. Tried the 3 that seemed most popular and stable - VillainROM, LightningROM and DarkyROM.
Much preferred Lightning ROM but after I'd installed it found that battery life was abysmal to the extent that I could have the phone plugged in and charging via USB and the battery would continue to go DOWN!
After restoring back to a CWM backup I did more research and found an app that would let me know what was killing the battery (see link at end). I re-installed the Lightning ROM and found that a security application called Privacy Guard (not LBE Privacy Guard) was chewing the battery up. This now made sense as this particular app had stopped working as it should after upgrading to Lightning ROM.
Un-installing this app made a massive difference to the battery life.
During this period I did have Juice Defender installed and since rooting the phone SetCPU. I had also encountered the "issue" with SetCPU appearing to cause reboots, closedowns and had turned off the functionality. But I was trying to use setCPU under the stock ROMS not a custom rom.
Since fixing the Privacy Guard issue and performing a clean install of Lightning ROM I now have a phone which lost only 3% battery last night (almost 8 1/2 hours).
I now have Juice Defender Ultimate, SetCPU configured to on-demand between 200Mhz and 1Ghz (I raise manually when I play games needing 1.4 or 1.6Ghz), Timeriffic to turn stuff off when I don't need it.
I have also put time into either removing or freezing (using TB) apps that I won't need.
Yes when I use the phone the battery goes down but it's a powerful phone and I treat it the same as a laptop running on batteries - The more I use it the less the battery lasts, get use to it people!
*link to app showing battery stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
i'm on stock kf3. rooted and removed bloatware (hubs, software update, maps etc). Battery life is good.
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does juice defender really work??
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does juice defender really work??
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If you use it correctly and know what it is doing = yes.
A solid tip is to never ever ever ever ever ever ever use any of the bloatware provided by Samsung. Don't even start it once because some stay active even if you don't use them. They drain the life out your battery and there are enough good alternatives.
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If you use it correctly and know what it is doing = yes.
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I would love to hear about your settings.
It's an old one and oft repeated, but for anyone fresh to the 4378 (and counting) battery life threads, get out of Google Latitude and stay out - kills the battery
I'm wondering if you use your phone frequently all day and JD constantly renegotiating connections is it better to not use it at all
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If you are using yout phone really frequently (data) then JD is useless, but for me it really good.
I have bad signal at work, so I have JD set to sync every hour, preferred wifi and automatic night mode when i'm asleep.
Data on when screen on and everything is fine (for me).
Is there a safe way to delete bloatware apps? I mean what if I delete something that messes up the phone? Do I need to reinstall the Rom?
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It works or not is a different matter, IMO it is not needed, nothing is needed actually. Just install JD and you will see it under Wakelocks in Better Battery Stats. So it drains more than saving it.
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Is there a safe way to delete bloatware apps? I mean what if I delete something that messes up the phone? Do I need to reinstall the Rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924&highlight=Safe+to+remove
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Thanks a lot!
For working and busy people, i think you guys can get better battery life than me. As a student in a holiday(nothing to do except playing ps3 and running errands), I most of the time will unlock the sgs2 whenever i glanced or watched it. moving the icons around, changing launchers, putting widgets, etc... i took so many times using sgs2 everyday and it can last about 6-7 hours with almost all the time screen on except when i sleep.
for me, 10 hours is already ok. get used to it guys. buy a spare battery, or an external charger. no need to worries at all. you dont want to be a freak for battery life. constantly checking the battery and whats draining them. its not cool~~ use it to the fullest! until the manufacturers make a phone with large battery capacity! i mean officially. those 3rd party large battery are just a show off. they drain as much as the stock ones.
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It's an old one and oft repeated, but for anyone fresh to the 4378 (and counting) battery life threads, get out of Google Latitude and stay out - kills the battery
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Can I just delete it from my system apps folder and be done with it? Cuz I don't use it!
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Can I just delete it from my system apps folder and be done with it? Cuz I don't use it!
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Not sure - it may have dependencies with other more useful tools such as Maps. Just make sure you are logged out and keep clear of it - it's reasonably well behaved if left alone.
I have always used Stock not rooted yet and get around 13-19 hours, I don't use the samsung hubs, but have facebook, twitter, google + and three emails constantly running and use wifi browsing a lot
so am quiet happy as it is hence no need to root although I like flashing the new firmwares via ODIN
Just a brainwave??
With Titanium Backup you can freeze your unwanted apps. When the phone is working without problems you can safely remove the frozen apps (after making a backup of course)
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Just a brainwave??
With Titanium Backup you can freeze your unwanted apps. When the phone is working without problems you can safely remove the frozen apps (after making a backup of course)
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Will think about freezing latitude though I don't use it
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I noticed that if you have alot of widgets running you will ruin your battery life. I dont use many and got amazing battery life out of the Stock Rom.
I am now using cognition rom and easily have the battery last all day still....
Cognition - Imo best samsung based rom on the s2, super stable with battery life on first flash lasting 18hrs+. If you havent tried it id suggest you did.
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36-38 Hours Battery Life!
I moved over from the HD2 a month ago. One of the things that astonishes me about the S2 is the battery life.
36-38 hours is the norm for me.
This is with:
- VillainRom
- Push Email (heavy use ~ 100 per day)
- No Lattitude
- No Wifi (HSDPA sufficient)
- No Bluetooth
I don't spend a lot of time making calls but being relatively new I am constantly fidgeting with it.

[Snapdragon batteryguru vs Stamina mode]

Dose anyone use snapdragon batteryguru?
Or stay with default function, namely stamina mode?
Or both together?
I just installed yesterday and it is on the way learning.
So, if some of you have already tried some combination of those, I am appreciate it in giving me feedback.
Also, I will give you feedback after testing.
Best regards,
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I have used batteryguru before didn't notice much improvement and from what the app was saying the apps you don't use often it stops them pushing the notifications etc until you load the app however I was still having notifications coming from all the apps on my phone. Your milage may vary though depending on what you use your phone for.
I was using JuiceDefender until I've been told that it doesn't do me any good. I thought it was a pretty nifty app for its functionality to enable and disable Wi-Fi and mobile data when I need it or not...
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I have been used for 1 month. I guess batteryguru did not help me much. So, I just uninstall it.
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I also had tried it on my HTC Butterfly (Global version of Droid DNA) and my LG G2, noticed no improvement in battery life.
Also, I just recognize that battery recharge time longer when I used it.
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I think is better to use both
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GigaSPX said:
I was using JuiceDefender until I've been told that it doesn't do me any good. I thought it was a pretty nifty app for its functionality to enable and disable Wi-Fi and mobile data when I need it or not...
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Why would you think, that JuiceDefender does not do any good?
I use it and actually have very good results with it...
bill340 said:
Why would you think, that JuiceDefender does not do any good?
I use it and actually have very good results with it...
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Well, peers have told me:
1. Battery saving apps are pointless with how advance Android is nowadays. Also especially since Sony has already included enough battery saving software in their devices.
2. The battery saving app keeps running, so that itself drains the battery.
What do you think?
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Well, peers have told me:
1. Battery saving apps are pointless with how advance Android is nowadays. Also especially since Sony has already included enough battery saving software in their devices.
2. The battery saving app keeps running, so that itself drains the battery.
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1 is correct
2 is partially correct, depends on which power saving app, I didn't notice any real drain from Battery Guru, though it didn't help increase it either.
I've never used Battery Guru before, but I think I'd rather purchase Tasker to do the job of location based Wi-Fi for my phone.
Would it drain battery or such if I have that act like juice defender/battery guru instead?
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Ive used battery guru for a while, but looks like it doesnt do much. So i uninstall it already.
With the latest version of Stamina I can't really see what BatteryGuru can do to further improve things.
The Z3 effectively turns just about everything off in standby if you ask it to, firing up when you start using the phone. Battery Guru attempts to learn your usage, so it will still allow data at certain times and restrict completely at others.
I'm very happy with Stamina and uninstalled Battery Guru some time ago. I still have it on some other devices tough, especially anything that doesn't have any native power saving functions.
I do wonder how Sony is going to combine Stamina with the Lollipop battery saver, which is a simple on or off - along with the horrid orange bars. That's very much all or nothing with far less intelligence, so maybe Sony will not use that at all.

Nap Time by Francisco Franco

Has anyone else tried Nap Time by Francisco Franco? Been using it on all my other phones and decided to give it a try on the 1P6T. Set it to aggressive doze and will keep thread updated on advantages or disadvantages.
I'll run a complete battery cycle using Nap Time and then another with it turned off.
Haven't installed it, have had it on previous devices. Will be interesting to follow your findings.
I feel like, with the combination of excellent out-of- the-box battery life and the Dash charging speed, there is not as much reason to skrimp and save on battery power by using Franco's excellent app.
When you can get screen on times that are practically all day and you can get a massive recharge in 10 -20 minutes ... I'm far less inclined to spend much time tweaking the kennel and searching for wake locks etc.
Franco makes good stuff though. Used his kernels for years.
Greenify and other nap apps are considered as useless in pie, native battery optimization is enough. I ditch them months ago without any visible difference.
The only thing I think will make a difference is Leandroid switching mobile data off when the screen goes off. This is a because of the Mobile Radio Active battery bug. That said I'm now a week in to my 6t and haven't noticed the drain, so it looks like OnePlus fixed it, OR, the battery is just so good it doesn't cause inadequate battery life anymore. (I've not rooted yet, which is a sign the phone is excellent.)
ggrant3876 said:
Has anyone else tried Nap Time by Francisco Franco? Been using it on all my other phones and decided to give it a try on the 1P6T. Set it to aggressive doze and will keep thread updated on advantages or disadvantages.
I'll run a complete battery cycle using Nap Time and then another with it turned off.
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Please let us know, I'm curious
vhc said:
Please let us know, I'm curious
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Will do. Even tho the battery life of the OP6T is great I believe it can be better. Just started with a full charge yesterday afternoon and when the battery is down I will post. Then I'll stop Nap Time and do another test.
@ggrant3876 how is it going?
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@ggrant3876 how is it going?
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I was just getting ready to post. It saves a bit on the battery and if it was a paid app not sure it would be worth the $. Since I have it installed and have run the 2 adb commands to give permissions I'll continue to use the app. If anything changes I'll post again.
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I was just getting ready to post. It saves a bit on the battery and if it was a paid app not sure it would be worth the $. Since I have it installed and have run the 2 adb commands to give permissions I'll continue to use the app. If anything changes I'll post again.
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Cool, thanks. Will try it out and see if the phone goes into deep sleep quicker than without it.
Nap Time works fantastic here, now gets pretty much instant deep sleep.
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I've been using it also and I'm getting about 97% deep sleep while I sleep through the night
hi.. may i know if you guys remove naptime from the OOS battery optimization or not?
I tried this but nothing has helped the massive battery drain I've been getting since finally rooting the TMO variant. Google music is using like 80% of the battery and not going to sleep.
My battery has been awful on my phone since day 1 which was when I rooted. The last 6t I had for about 10 days , did not root, battery was much better. Going to try this app
I turned on "disable motion detection during doze" and notice that ambient display doesn't work on tap. It might be the case that it doesn't work when the phone is in deep doze. Hmm, a bug on oneplus's end?
Striatum_bdr said:
Greenify and other nap apps are considered as useless in pie, native battery optimization is enough. I ditch them months ago without any visible difference.
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if im not wrong, the app will ask you to remove it from being optimize
I have now tried this for a few days and notice no changes in battery.
I do notice that it goes in doze mode more often and more quickly (gsam battery monitor) I don't see any difference at all other than that.
Hi, can I check if this is Naptime working normally?

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