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[Q] there is a way to downgrade from custom to official ?

i was at MJ3 rooted with de la vega
knox was 0x0 and system official using wanam xposed
and did OTA with super su pro survivel mode
knox was 0x0 but system changed to custom . wanam xposed didn't worked for me at MJ3
now even i did full unroot with super su
system stay on custom
there is any way to get official again ? even by downgrage , without tripping the knox ?
thanks...

just download a stock ROM, and flash it with Odin
it's as simple as that.

benhouli said:
i was at MJ3 rooted with de la vega
knox was 0x0 and system official using wanam xposed
and did OTA with super su pro survivel mode
knox was 0x0 but system changed to custom . wanam xposed didn't worked for me at MJ3
now even i did full unroot with super su
system stay on custom
there is any way to get official again ? even by downgrage , without tripping the knox ?
thanks...
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yeah grab firmware from www.sammobile.com

on kies it say i have MJ3 (XEH)
even my phone is from handtec
which stock i need to download
MJ1 or MJ3
and which country ?
by the way
my phone had the sticker of the region lock on the box
but it was unlock at the first time i opened it , and no one opened it before to unlock it
my main concern is to stay knox 0x0 as i am right now and get back to official instead custom

benhouli said:
on kies it say i have MJ3 (XEH)
even my phone is from handtec
which stock i need to download
MJ1 or MJ3
and which country ?
by the way
my phone had the sticker of the region lock on the box
but it was unlock at the first time i opened it , and no one opened it before to unlock it
my main concern is to stay knox 0x0 as i am right now and get back to official instead custom
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tricky i would go for mj3 and what country you from

jaythenut said:
tricky i would go for mj3 and what country you from
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it will be more tricky
beacuse in my country the n9005 sell just by grey market and not official
just the n900 sell official

benhouli said:
it will be more tricky
beacuse in my country the n9005 sell just by grey market and not official
just the n900 sell official
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So what country

jaythenut said:
So what country
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israel
the only rom here for the note 3 is for the n900

benhouli said:
israel
the only rom here for the note 3 is for the n900
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sorry dont know you could try factory reset might work

jaythenut said:
sorry dont know you could try factory reset might work
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maybe i will try it , just hope that will not trip the knox
thanks

benhouli said:
maybe i will try it , just hope that will not trip the knox
thanks
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It should not trip knox

jaythenut said:
It should not trip knox
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just update
after factory reset knox still 0x0
and system status still custom
any suggestion?

one more update
i flashed stock rom with odin (MJ3)
after that knox still on 0x0
but system still custom
don't know what to do next
any help please ?
UPDATE
after a third restart
system back to official

Using ODIN even with official firmware still sets my N3 to 'custom' status and OTA fails.
Kies Beta 3 - Emergency Firmware Recovery fixed it for me. I am now stock MJ6 (BTU)

hi guys I just want to ask a noob question..
I'm rooted by cf and knox trigger 0x1 if I flash official firmware like MJ3 will my knox return back to 0x0 and become official ..
Thanks!

Currently there is no way to revert Knox trigger back to 0x0.

[Q] Rooting Note 3 with MJ7 without triggering KNOX counter - Is it possible

Hey guys.
I recently got my new Note 3 (N9005, unlocked, no carrier) and upgraded it to the latest MJ7 FW. Now when I started to look for ways to root it, without triggering that KNOX counter, I couldn't find any clear info on it. Is it possible on the latest MJ7? If it is, how? Have anyone tried it?

Oh, just to make it clear - I'm aware of that "Root De La Vega" but first couldn't find working link to the scripts and second I couldn't find any info about whether it triggers the KNOX counter on MJ7 FW?

No that is not possible yet, because you are on the 'new' bootloader now, which prevents the RDLV method. I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox. Sorry man, but for now it's better to wait for some smart developer to come up with a solution...

And going back to older FW is not an option? I mean downloading old FW from sammobile and using Odin dropping this older FW?

stargazer_vit said:
And going back to older FW is not an option? I mean downloading old FW from sammobile and using Odin dropping this older FW?
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Downgrade isn't possible. U'll end up with boot loops if you try.
If u want root without triggering knox, then you'll have to wait until another exploit is found.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Luycks said:
No that is not possible yet, because you are on the 'new' bootloader now, which prevents the RDLV method. I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox. Sorry man, but for now it's better to wait for some smart developer to come up with a solution...
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I tried kingo and vroot on my Note 3 (SM-9005, Firmware version MJ7). They both failed to root the device. But the KNOX remained 0x00, meaning that the warranty was still valid.
So, what do u mean by ' I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox.' Does it apply to MJ7? Or did someone succeed rooting the Note 3 with Firmware version MJ7 and end with voiding the KNOX warranty (0x01)?

zhengsmall said:
I tried kingo and vroot on my Note 3 (SM-9005, Firmware version MJ7). They both failed to root the device. But the KNOX remained 0x00, meaning that the warranty was still valid.
So, what do u mean by ' I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox.' Does it apply to MJ7? Or did someone succeed rooting the Note 3 with Firmware version MJ7 and end with voiding the KNOX warranty (0x01)?
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There is NO WAY at the moment to root MJ7 without triggering Knox... Period...
If you needed root you should've rooted it before update to MJ7 and then updated with Mobile ODIN Pro...But that ship hasn't only sailed, its been hit by an iceberg and sunk....

Thx anyway, I have to wait before new approaches are revealed since I'd like to keep the KNOX flag 0x00.
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Nope, you have the patched bootloader.
Useful information:
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-cf-auto-root
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-root-de-la-vega
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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[Q] Galaxy S4 back to stock help

Hello All,
I have a Samsung galaxy S4 GT-I9505 which was initially locked by Vodafone UK and unlocked later. I rooted my phone and I want to unroot it again and go back to stock (4.2.2). Please suggest the right firmware to download and install. If you want any details of my device feel free to ask.
Thank you in advance.

1. You cant go back to 4.2.2 if u had before 4.3 or 4.4.2 (Only I advise u)
2. Right firmware for ur phone depends of the zone code too. Install Kies 3 and conect ur phone to the pc. It will give the CSC (...) -> The 3 letters are what you need for know ur zone code.
3. Go to Sammobile.com, log and sig in.
4. Download and unzip the right firmware for ur phone taking a look your CSC.
5. Flash it through ODIN.
6. Don't hesitate in ask again if you need help :fingers-crossed:

Joku1981 said:
1. You cant go back to 4.2.2 if u had before 4.3 or 4.4.2 (Only I advise u)
2. Right firmware for ur phone depends of the zone code too. Install Kies 3 and conect ur phone to the pc. It will give the CSC (...) -> The 3 letters are what you need for know ur zone code.
3. Go to Sammobile.com, log and sig in.
4. Download and unzip the right firmware for ur phone taking a look your CSC.
5. Flash it through ODIN.
6. Don't hesitate in ask again if you need help :fingers-crossed:
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Hi, i checked my device by connecting to Kies 3. This is what i found
PDA:MKF / PHONE:MKF / CSC:MK3 (NEE)
I9505XXUEMKF
I have 4.3 now. please help me to find right firmware as i am not sure that ill pick the right one on my own.
Thanks.

rprx134 said:
Hi, i checked my device by connecting to Kies 3. This is what i found
PDA:MKF / PHONE:MKF / CSC:MK3 (NEE)
I9505XXUEMKF
I have 4.3 now. please help me to find right firmware as i am not sure that ill pick the right one on my own.
Thanks.
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You can't come back to android 4.2.2. The unique u can do is install android 4.4.2 (latest one):
1. Log and sig in Sammobile.com
2. Download and unzip this firmware: HERE
3. Flash it through ODIN (you have the instructions in the URL I pasted u)
4. If you wanna root it, u will void ur warranty (KNOX: 0x1)

I assume the firmware your on has knox, to confirm boot into download mode and see if there is a reference to KNOX.
If you have knox you can not downgrade. I know 4.3 was safe for a while before knox got implemented but can't remember the last safe knox free rom on 4.3.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

nikzDHD said:
If you have knox you can not downgrade
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Joku1981 said:
You can't come back to android 4.2.2
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I was going to start a new thread, but this one seems to be dealing with a similar problem to my own. I recently upgraded from 4.2.2 to 4.3 and then to 4.4.2 all in one day. I don't like KitKat at all and want to go back to 4.2.2. Is there absolutely no way I can do this?

Bl1zz4rd said:
I was going to start a new thread, but this one seems to be dealing with a similar problem to my own. I recently upgraded from 4.2.2 to 4.3 and then to 4.4.2 all in one day. I don't like KitKat at all and want to go back to 4.2.2. Is there absolutely no way I can do this?
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Nope if you flashed official Samsung firmware you'll have knox. You won't even be able to downgrade to 4.3.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

nikzDHD said:
Nope if you flashed official Samsung firmware you'll have knox. You won't even be able to downgrade to 4.3.
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I'm pretty sure I uninstalled Knox. Does that not make a difference?
What is it that Knox is doing that prevents downgrading?

Knox is an app but tied into the bootloader deep down. If you've got it in the boot loader then you can not downgrade. It's the bootloader. When knox was fully implemented it bought a new bootloader. Any one on the new bootloader can not downgrade to the old bootloader unfortunately.
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nikzDHD said:
Knox is an app but tied into the bootloader deep down. If you've got it in the boot loader then you can not downgrade. It's the bootloader. When knox was fully implemented it bought a new bootloader. Any one on the new bootloader can not downgrade to the old bootloader unfortunately.
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If Knox brought a new bootloader, and it was released with 4.3, surely I can at least downgrade back to 4.3?

Unfortunately you can't downgrade. As 4.2.2 was on the old bootloader. As I suggested boot into download mode, volume down and power button and see if there is a knox counter. If it says knox you have the new bootloader. If there is no reference to KNOX at all then you can safely install stock 4.2.2.
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nikzDHD said:
Unfortunately you can't downgrade. As 4.2.2 was on the old bootloader. As I suggested boot into download mode, volume down and power button and see if there is a knox counter. If it says knox you have the new bootloader. If there is no reference to KNOX at all then you can safely install stock 4.2.2.
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I still don't understand how it is that I can't go back to 4.3, since it uses the same bootloader as 4.4.
I went into download mode and my phone said the following:
ODIN MODE
Product name: GT-I9500
Current binary: Samsung Official
System status: Official
Knox warranty void: 0
RP SWREV: A3

Root GT-N7100<4.4.2> without tripping KNOX

Hi XDA people,
Just found this workaround for rooting latest 4.4.2 stock firmware without tripping Knox.
This method downgrades the firmware(System & Kernel) on your device to N7100XXUEMK4 except for the bootloader.
Dont even try to downgrade the bootloader as this isn't possible.
What you need:
1.Odin v3.09
2.Stock official N7100XXUFND3 firmware on your device.
3. A device with Knox Warranty Void: 0
Procedure:
1.Download N7100XXUEMK4 Stock Rom from HERE
2. Open the downloaded file.You will find 4 .tar.md5 files and an Odinv3.09 zip file inside.
3. Extract the Odin file and setup Odin on your PC.
4. Next extract the file named AP_N7100XXUEMK4_2099172_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
5. Load this file into AP tab on Odin. Connect your phone in Odin mode and flash this file.
( Note : You have to flash only the AP file from Odin. Do not flash the other files namely CP, CSC, BL)
6. Now once the phone has rebooted go back to download mode and check if Knox has tripped or not.
7. Next use Saferoot from HERE to root your device.
(You would find the guide on how to root using saferoot easily over HERE
8. Now if saferoot was able to root your device then you must be rooted without tripping Knox. :good:
9. Now you can easily flash your official firmware through mobile odin. Select Everroot option on Mobile odin while flashing the new firmware. In this way you wont lose root access.
Known Issues:
If after rooting you want to flash custom recovery via mobile odin, or via DR.Ketan's utilities app please note that it will trip knox.
Knox remains cool until your recovery is stock. The moment a custom recovery is detected knox goes 1.
Credits:
@k1mu for saferoot

Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)

robalm said:
Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)
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Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.

robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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Okay. :thumbup:
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

can u do this with 7105 also?

romdroid. said:
can u do this with 7105 also?
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No idea about N7105
Do you know any N7105 stock firmware which is root able by saferoot/kingoroot without tripping knox?
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
Okay. :thumbup:
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?

singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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infact you were the one who brought it to mine and haybill's attention that upgrading BL to ND3 triggers Knox ,i'll just ask haybill to send me a screenshot from phone info

singhpratik87 said:
I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox

singhpratik87 said:
Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox
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Lol. It's paritally right.
Don't worry buddy I'll help you learn Knox
Being Knoxed is getting that extra line in the download mode.
But this doesn't throw away your warranty. Warranty is lost only when this extra line in download mode ends with 1 instead of 0
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.

robalm said:
I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.
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In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
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Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.

robalm said:
Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.
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No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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smeet.somaiya said:
No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)

robalm said:
Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)
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Yes it would trigger by flashing unofficial firmware.
But here we ain't doing that too.
We're just flashing a older kernel+system partition (the whole PDA from MK4) that was vulnerable to root without tripping knox.
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I have DDUFND1. Even kingo doesnt recognize it. How can i get a one click root solution :crying:

[Q] Knox reset for note 3 9005

hi guys how are you?
i need your help immedeatelly
so i use note 3 with snapdragon version 9005 i rooted my phone then updated my firmware with kies now my android version is 4.4.2 and with this version the new version of knox downloaded ( knox 2) but it is out of service. when i open the knox it automatically cloeses itself. knox is very important app for me thats why to use it i changed my firmware with odin ( from one orginal room to another ) even though i did it knox still out of sercive. i dont know how to solve this problem if anyone can help me please? maybe i need to reset my knox i even dont know how to do please anyone help me
grateful to all of you from now
thanks for your hellp and attention

If your knox flag is 0x1, knox will never work again.
Sent from my leanKernel 3.10 powered stock 4.4.2 (NF9) SM-N900T

toastido said:
If your knox flag is 0x1, knox will never work again.
Sent from my leanKernel 3.10 powered stock 4.4.2 (NF9) SM-N900T
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yup my knox counter is like that. do u mean i should to buy galaxy note 4? ))))))))))

I can not understand why exynos users can reset knox counter but not snapdragon users?

yaqub86 said:
I can not understand why exynos users can reset knox counter but not snapdragon users?
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if someone knew , we had the solution.
btw , if you followed a little about the topic , you would know N900 can reset count as a result of files leak from Samsung.