Hi, is it possible to root the Note 3 without having to wipe all the data off the phone. I recently got my phone a week ago, and I know I should have rooted right away, but now I have all my apps and their save data on there and I dont want to lose that
I know on my old droid 4 it was possible to root it without losing everything, so I'm hoping its the same for the much more popular and know
and one other question: What happens if my phone recieves an OTA update while rooted? will it get bricked?
robotnikman said:
Hi, is it possible to root the Note 3 without having to wipe all the data off the phone. I recently got my phone a week ago, and I know I should have rooted right away, but now I have all my apps and their save data on there and I dont want to lose that
I know on my old droid 4 it was possible to root it without losing everything, so I'm hoping its the same for the much more popular and know
and one other question: What happens if my phone recieves an OTA update while rooted? will it get bricked?
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I rooted my Note 3 while I'm in MJ1 firmware with Root De La Vega method, and knox is still 0x0. During that process no data is wiped and everything is intact.
You need to know which firmware you are in now as firmware with MJ3 and above comes with a new bootloader which will trip the knox counter if you root your device
williamyi said:
I rooted my Note 3 while I'm in MJ1 firmware with Root De La Vega method, and knox is still 0x0. During that process no data is wiped and everything is intact.
You need to know which firmware you are in now as firmware with MJ3 and above comes with a new bootloader which will trip the knox counter if you root your device
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Well it says under phone settings that the kernel version is 3.4.0, and android version 4.3. I'm not sure if thats a sign of which firmware im on. I do know that also right after I got my phone a week ago that an OTA was installed to it
robotnikman said:
Well it says under phone settings that the kernel version is 3.4.0, and android version 4.3. I'm not sure if thats a sign of which firmware im on. I do know that also right after I got my phone a week ago that an OTA was installed to it
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You need to look at your Build Number in Setting > About Phone / or in your dialer press *#1234# to get your AP version.
But since you say you updated your phone via OTA then it means your phone now has the new evil bootloader which will trip the knox if you root your Note 3.
If you really don't care about the knox counter and want to root so badly, then just root it with CF Root.
williamyi said:
You need to look at your Build Number in Setting > About Phone / or in your dialer press *#1234# to get your AP version.
But since you say you updated your phone via OTA then it means your phone now has the new evil bootloader which will trip the knox if you root your Note 3.
If you really don't care about the knox counter and want to root so badly, then just root it with CF Root.
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Well I guess I just have to be careful with my phone. My only worry is if i cant trade this phone in a year later for a new one, since im on the verizon edge plan. Then again, they took my beaten up and rooted Droid 4 without any questions
though rooting using the methode here wont break my phone even if i'm updated?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481590
williamyi said:
You need to look at your Build Number in Setting > About Phone / or in your dialer press *#1234# to get your AP version.
But since you say you updated your phone via OTA then it means your phone now has the new evil bootloader which will trip the knox if you root your Note 3.
If you really don't care about the knox counter and want to root so badly, then just root it with CF Root.
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It doesnt seem like there is a version of CF Root for SM-N900V. were you talking about the CF autoroot method here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Well..
I actually want to start a new thread. But it seems, there's a similar thread here (not meant to hijack this thread, but rather than have too much thread)
Hope someone can clear up my mind. Still new with this device (N9005), and this irritating KNOX issue all over the Samsung Note XDA forums.
1st Q : I'm on MJ7, and I know there's no way to root again without tripping KNOX. Am I right ?
2nd Q : If let's say I don't care about KNOX warranty issue, and up to now, I haven't used/activated the KNOX container/apps. If I root my device use CF-AutoRoot, will I be able to remove all the KNOX container & apps ?
3rd Q : Still in link of 2nd Q, If let's say after root with CF-Autoroot, and KNOX become 0x1, are there any effects which might make my device can't flash custom ROM ? or might make my device can't flash custom recovery ?
4th Q : Other than the issue of warranty 0x1 has made... Is there anything which might make my device run hell wire regarding this tripping issue?
Thanks!
antique_sonic said:
Well..
I actually want to start a new thread. But it seems, there's a similar thread here (not meant to hijack this thread, but rather than have too much thread)
Hope someone can clear up my mind. Still new with this device (N9005), and this irritating KNOX issue all over the Samsung Note XDA forums.
1st Q : I'm on MJ7, and I know there's no way to root again without tripping KNOX. Am I right ?
2nd Q : If let's say I don't care about KNOX warranty issue, and up to now, I haven't used/activated the KNOX container/apps. If I root my device use CF-AutoRoot, will I be able to remove all the KNOX container & apps ?
3rd Q : Still in link of 2nd Q, If let's say after root with CF-Autoroot, and KNOX become 0x1, are there any effects which might make my device can't flash custom ROM ? or might make my device can't flash custom recovery ?
4th Q : Other than the issue of warranty 0x1 has made... Is there anything which might make my device run hell wire regarding this tripping issue?
Thanks!
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1. That's correct.
2. Once you root the phone the KNOX container will not be functioning anymore although the knox app download icon is still there.
3. Tripping Knox to 0X1 doesn't have anything to do with flashing custom rom or recovery. You'll be able to do both.
4. No. In fact for me, Knox is the only thing keeping me from enjoying my phone so after just 2 weeks of owning it, tripped knox and I couldn't be happier.
hey_joe said:
1. That's correct.
2. Once you root the phone the KNOX container will not be functioning anymore although the knox app download icon is still there.
3. Tripping Knox to 0X1 doesn't have anything to do with flashing custom rom or recovery. You'll be able to do both.
4. No. In fact for me, Knox is the only thing keeping me from enjoying my phone so after just 2 weeks of owning it, tripped knox and I couldn't be happier.
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Thanks...
So... CFautoroot is the simplest nd best way to root mj7 (assuming I ignore those knox)?
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antique_sonic said:
Thanks...
So... CFautoroot is the simplest nd best way to root mj7 (assuming I ignore those knox)?
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Yes. You have to download this one. The updated CF-Auto root will bootloop your phone.
Okie. Many thanks for the link.
But why the updated one is not as good as the old one? Doesn't new version tend to be better... always?
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antique_sonic said:
Okie. Many thanks for the link.
But why the updated one is not as good as the old one? Doesn't new version tend to be better... always?
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The updated one was based on 4.4.2 so if you have 4.3 it will bootloop.
Hi can I ask a simple question please ... If I root my phone will I still be able to update via kies or install new stock firmwares via odin ?
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zipolly said:
Hi can I ask a simple question please ... If I root my phone will I still be able to update via kies or install new stock firmwares via odin ?
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I don't know about kies but you can definitely update through odin.
Cheers Thanks for the reply mate
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Np.
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This KNOX thing is creating too much confusion. Somebody please clear it. Some say that KNOX won't allow us to root ar flash custom kernels n roms. Some are say that KNOX bootloader can be replaced. I am using GT-I9500 (4.3 official, MJ8 build number, not rooted), which i wish to root. What should i exactly do to get rid of knox?
Please help. Thanks
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I too am confused with this whole Knox stuff. But from my experience, you can Root and install custom software but it will void your warranty. I'm not sure if it's any different on the 9500 as I've got a 9505 but there is currently NO way to get rid of Knox, once you've got it, you're stuck with it.
Pulse654321 said:
I too am confused with this whole Knox stuff. But from my experience, you can Root and install custom software but it will void your warranty. I'm not sure if it's any different on the 9500 as I've got a 9505 but there is currently NO way to get rid of Knox, once you've got it, you're stuck with it.
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Maby not ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504258 and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510867
you can root after upgrading to knox
you can also install a custom recovery
knox counter (which is not really a counter if my understanding is correct) will increase to 1, meaning you will loose the waranty
so I was running the last S4 official firmware, I root'ed it using CF auto root, then installed philz touch recoveryn than i flashed the goole edition rom from jamal
and of course I lost the waranty, hope I wont need it
philuxe said:
you can root after upgrading to knox
you can also install a custom recovery
knox counter (which is not really a counter if my understanding is correct) will increase to 1, meaning you will loose the waranty
so I was running the last S4 official firmware, I root'ed it using CF auto root, then installed philz touch recoveryn than i flashed the goole edition rom from jamal
and of course I lost the waranty, hope I wont need it
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So now that i want to root my GT-I9500 (Indian, running 4.3 stock, MJ8 firmware), will CF autoroot work?
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I was looking for a safe root so that my knox counter remained at 0x0
First flased the stock firmware with odin XXUEMK4 from SamMobile
and then with kingo root rooted my Note 2
and it works my counter remained 0x0
I used this youtube movie as an example, if I did everything right, and everything went well with my
Link to Kingo android root
This won't reset KNOX if you already void KNOX warranty
NEED HELP
Brother how i root my note2 my warranty is void bcuz i tried to root and knox block the superuser so i flashed my device again with official 4.3
So will u help me to root
NOTE 2 (N7100)
4.3
Build No. MK4
thanks
Gagandeep106 said:
Brother how i root my note2 my warranty is void bcuz i tried to root and knox block the superuser so i flashed my device again with official 4.3
So will u help me to root
NOTE 2 (N7100)
4.3
Build No. MK4
thanks
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1- Download and install Samsung Kies or Samsung Mobile driver
2- Download "kingo"
3- On your device go to Settings/More/About device/
4- Tap 5 times on "build number" to enable "Developer option"
5- Enable "USB Debug Mode" from developer options
6- Connect your device to PC by USB cable and wait until "kingo" display the model of your device
7- Click the green Button and wait few seconds
8- After it reboot, you can unplug USB cable
Is there really already a Knox-workaround way to root the new 4.3 firmwares?
HAHAHA! That's awesome!
if this is true why nobody care about this method ? hurmmmm
sora9009 said:
if this is true why nobody care about this method ? hurmmmm
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how do you know nobody care this topic has been visited already 367 times
and if you follow the links you can read that others done this successfully
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okay..my mistake..
so somebody do care ~
If real yeah eclverbody cares. But this method and thread are close for inventigation by xda admins. Soo nobody cares
Enviado do meu GT-N7100 através de Tapatalk
Users writing that
" VROOT was accessing chinese servers"
after root be careful with this.
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oh yeah getting past certain xda 'gates' may be quite a challenge.....
Kingo Works Confirmed!!!
Just rooted my phone using Kingo
Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7100
Build XXUEMK4 (India)
Knox Bootloader
WITHOUT tripping the Knox Counter!!!
Though Device status shows "Custom"
Can be taken care of by Using Xpose Framework & Wanam
Thanks.
Major.
Does this apply to GT-N7105 Galaxy Note 2 LTE?
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majorraj2003 said:
Just rooted my phone using Kingo
Can be taken care of by Using Xpose Framework & Wanam
Thanks.
Major.
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to use xpose or wanam you must have deodexed rom
cosmyndemeter said:
to use xpose or wanam you must have deodexed rom
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Nope. Has nothing to do with odex/deodex.
BTW. If this method works, it's the first workaround without tripping knox.
No more using older bootloaders I guess. Nice find!
majorraj2003 said:
Just rooted my phone using Kingo
Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7100
Build XXUEMK4 (India)
Knox Bootloader
WITHOUT tripping the Knox Counter!!!
Though Device status shows "Custom"
Can be taken care of by Using Xpose Framework & Wanam
Thanks.
Major.
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Ok so please check your phone through Odin to see if really your counter stays 0x0 an show us a screenshot.
This will be the definitive confirmation.
Kingo works 100%
Have been using this rooted phone for more than a few days without any problems.
Had downloaded the OTA though.
Had not flashed MK4 firmware via Odin but it should not make a difference.
Have not tried the wanam & xpose process ... will try it today and give u all an update.
I am purely on a stock rom (odexed)
Just wanted to root the device without any custom notifications or tripping any counters
I guess this Kingo method serves the purpose...so far until something better turns up.
This is purely for those who are on STOCK Rom & want to root their Phones and are afraid of tripping their Knox Counter etc.
Follow this post for further instructions on rooting via Kingo & Wanam & Xpose (for making Device Status from Custom/Modified to Official)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509244
Major.
PS. Device status showing Custom/Modified will not allow you to update your phone via OTA.
If you want to Make it official as I mentioned u can use Wanam & Xpose
OR
Flash the original Stock ROM via ODIN (You will lose the ROOT though)
PROOF!!!
note2nooby said:
Ok so please check your phone through Odin to see if really your counter stays 0x0 an show us a screenshot.
This will be the definitive confirmation.
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See the attached files.
looks correctly , thanks for posting it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but since we have root on a non modified Knox status phone, we can pull the bootloader and system info, then try to break the fuse and compare it to the untouched status one? @Chainfire
victorator said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but since we have root on a non modified Knox status phone, we can pull the bootloader and system info, then try to break the fuse and compare it to the untouched status one? @Chainfire
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Could be possible...
As after rooting by this method I personally feel this Knox thing is more kind of software related rather than Hardware.
If Kingo can bypass this and root so can our senior Dev Team too can.
Although, I don't understand much of this mambo-jumbo in programming..am always ready to help.
Major
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[email protected] said:
Does this apply to GT-N7105 Galaxy Note 2 LTE?
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Visit Kingo for all supported phones & to download the software.
Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
cool400 said:
Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
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If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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At this time - No.
I think the only safe way of rooting MJ7 at this point is if you're coming from MJ1 and can root MJ1 first. If I remember correct, MJ3 and above installs a new bootloader which has been patched to prevent RDLV and similar to get around knox. Android 4.4 KitKat is almost here, so I wouldn't worry about it.. I rooted mine just to disable knox but apart from that it's not that much else to do with it.. A few mods with Wanam Xposed if you want, but there's not that much in there that is needed for the Note 3 in my opinion..
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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antt00 said:
What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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the answer is YES but only if you are on an non-rooted ROM. basically you don't get updates only if you are rooted
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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Getting ota is related to the phone being in official status not knox. Even if you have issue with ota you can just download the official rom and flash with odin. There is no way tripping knox is going to prevent future rom upgrading.
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Should I upgrade from MJ7 to KitKat?
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
Alex_007 said:
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
If you still want to stay at MJ7, and root it, I can only tell you, up to now I write this, there's still no method for a safe tripping root method for MJ7, because this firmware has a new bootloader for 4.3 which has a samsung patch. And don't ever think to downgrade to earlier 4.3, coz this is also impossible.
If you want to safe your KNOX flag, at the moment, don't root. If you want to root, you have to let go your KNOX flag.
You can wait, but nobody knows how long you should wait. because at the other end, samsung also keep on updating its bootloader.
Choice is yours, mate.
Cheers.
antique_sonic said:
KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
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Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? I guess my data won't be deleted and knox won't be affected.
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
Alex_007 said:
Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? Will my data be lost after firmware update through Odin?
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
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Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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antique_sonic said:
Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
Alex_007 said:
Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
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Not trying to scare u. But u better backup ur contacts, sms, or other stuff from ur internal storage.
My last bad experience was... yes device nver ask to factory reset after update. But after few weeks of usage, it suddenly freeze until very hot, and reboot, and voila... all gone.
This happen to note 2 when upgrade via ota from 4.1.2 to 4.3. and device belongs to my boss, and I m the one who did the ota update. So happy when don't need to factory reset, but I got Fcuk when his data all suddenly gone.
Anyway... no harm back up ur important data.
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I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to the OTA 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
nexxusty said:
I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
jaythenut said:
knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Yes your be fine but you will loose root
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Also, any idea how to reset the flash counter after flashing 4.4.2? Or will it be ok considering I only rooted?
Not sure on this either.
jaythenut said:
Yes your be fine but you will loose root
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NP losing root.
Thanks!
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
nexxusty said:
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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No issues, back to Official status.
I actually have major flashlighting on the left side of my screen. Only visible with white is anywhere BUT the left side of the screen (Best way I can explain it). Anyone know if Samsung will repair this?
Not interested in defective hardware, it's obvious this Note 3 is a one off and needs a new screen. Hoping Samsung is not going to deny me.
Just need to pick up my replacement HTC One on my actual plan (Bought this one straight up, HTC One I had was lost, have insurance.).
REALLY would like to know about the flash counter before I send this off. It has been rooted with Root De La Whatever it is (LOL) then unrooted via SuperSU, then I Odin'd the 4.4.2 update. There was a checkbox ticked called "F.Reset Time", is that it?
I'll look a bit before making my own thread on this one if no has a quick answer.
Thanks again, XDA never lets me down.
Hi XDA people,
Just found this workaround for rooting latest 4.4.2 stock firmware without tripping Knox.
This method downgrades the firmware(System & Kernel) on your device to N7100XXUEMK4 except for the bootloader.
Dont even try to downgrade the bootloader as this isn't possible.
What you need:
1.Odin v3.09
2.Stock official N7100XXUFND3 firmware on your device.
3. A device with Knox Warranty Void: 0
Procedure:
1.Download N7100XXUEMK4 Stock Rom from HERE
2. Open the downloaded file.You will find 4 .tar.md5 files and an Odinv3.09 zip file inside.
3. Extract the Odin file and setup Odin on your PC.
4. Next extract the file named AP_N7100XXUEMK4_2099172_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
5. Load this file into AP tab on Odin. Connect your phone in Odin mode and flash this file.
( Note : You have to flash only the AP file from Odin. Do not flash the other files namely CP, CSC, BL)
6. Now once the phone has rebooted go back to download mode and check if Knox has tripped or not.
7. Next use Saferoot from HERE to root your device.
(You would find the guide on how to root using saferoot easily over HERE
8. Now if saferoot was able to root your device then you must be rooted without tripping Knox. :good:
9. Now you can easily flash your official firmware through mobile odin. Select Everroot option on Mobile odin while flashing the new firmware. In this way you wont lose root access.
Known Issues:
If after rooting you want to flash custom recovery via mobile odin, or via DR.Ketan's utilities app please note that it will trip knox.
Knox remains cool until your recovery is stock. The moment a custom recovery is detected knox goes 1.
Credits:
@k1mu for saferoot
Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)
robalm said:
Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)
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Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
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smeet.somaiya said:
Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
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Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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Okay. :thumbup:
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can u do this with 7105 also?
romdroid. said:
can u do this with 7105 also?
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No idea about N7105
Do you know any N7105 stock firmware which is root able by saferoot/kingoroot without tripping knox?
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smeet.somaiya said:
Okay. :thumbup:
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robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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infact you were the one who brought it to mine and haybill's attention that upgrading BL to ND3 triggers Knox ,i'll just ask haybill to send me a screenshot from phone info
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I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
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smeet.somaiya said:
I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
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Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox
singhpratik87 said:
Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox
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Lol. It's paritally right.
Don't worry buddy I'll help you learn Knox
Being Knoxed is getting that extra line in the download mode.
But this doesn't throw away your warranty. Warranty is lost only when this extra line in download mode ends with 1 instead of 0
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singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.
robalm said:
I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.
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In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
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smeet.somaiya said:
In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
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Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.
robalm said:
Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.
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No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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smeet.somaiya said:
No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)
robalm said:
Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)
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Yes it would trigger by flashing unofficial firmware.
But here we ain't doing that too.
We're just flashing a older kernel+system partition (the whole PDA from MK4) that was vulnerable to root without tripping knox.
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I have DDUFND1. Even kingo doesnt recognize it. How can i get a one click root solution :crying: