Knox showed up under 4.2.2 - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

My phone downloaded the update to 4.3, but I have not installed it. Still getting the notification "system update downloaded, touch to update."
And I can confirm that I am still running 4.2.2.
However, when looking in the App Manager I see Knox Notification Manager and Knox Store.
Anyone know what these are? Should they be here even though I have not installed 4.3?
Thanks.

ronnienyc said:
My phone downloaded the update to 4.3, but I have not installed it. Still getting the notification "system update downloaded, touch to update."
And I can confirm that I am still running 4.2.2.
However, when looking in the App Manager I see Knox Notification Manager and Knox Store.
Anyone know what these are? Should they be here even though I have not installed 4.3?
Thanks.
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They were added in 4.2.2 I am pretty sure. The Knox system was rolled out in stages.

ronnienyc said:
My phone downloaded the update to 4.3, but I have not installed it. Still getting the notification "system update downloaded, touch to update."
And I can confirm that I am still running 4.2.2.
However, when looking in the App Manager I see Knox Notification Manager and Knox Store.
Anyone know what these are? Should they be here even though I have not installed 4.3?
Thanks.
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holtcg said:
They were added in 4.2.2 I am pretty sure. The Knox system was rolled out in stages.
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Those have been there since the 4.2.2 update, but they are not the parts that trip the knox 0x0 flag and negate your samsung warranty. That was added with the bootloader in 4.3.

Ah, good to know. Thanks to you both.

ronnienyc said:
My phone downloaded the update to 4.3, but I have not installed it. Still getting the notification "system update downloaded, touch to update."
And I can confirm that I am still running 4.2.2.
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What is the easiest way to get rid of that notification? I want to wait before going to 4.3 myself.
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Finleyville said:
What is the easiest way to get rid of that notification? I want to wait before going to 4.3 myself.
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Nevermind...found it here--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517886

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problem with checking for updates after rooting

hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
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When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
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do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
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No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
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i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
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Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
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one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
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It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
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today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer
As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.

Official 4.3 for Note 2 N7100 INDIA finaly arrived

Wait is over for my Indian bro......:good:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
jdomadia said:
Wait is over for my Indian bro......:good:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
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Yeah...
Here we go!
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=GT-N7100&pcode=0#firmware
Same as last leaked ))
good that its the same coz dev has already started on it
does it raise knox number
It has KNOX, so obviously it does if you don't play by their rules.
And as suspected; no Note3 features.
For me; no thanks.
Waiting for knox-free, note3 modded ROMs.
So leak is official
Of official was leak ?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
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I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
tsk1979 said:
I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
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I have a rooted Note 2, so I cannot get it of course via OTA.
IS where a way to install this via mobile odin Pro?
Any thing I need to take care?
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I wouldn't flash this ROM via ODIN. Some people reported installation failure and KNOX warranty void flags. Fix your Custom status with TriangleAway. Then you will be able to update over OTA, if it is already available for your provider. However, even so, I wouldn't recommend flashing this or updating. It has KNOX so you will not be able to go back if this is buggy, and you will not be able to root without loosing warranty.
Already some ppl has updated in india & reported as buttery smooth.
Can someone tell me if this update has emoji on keyboard?
Enviado de meu GT-I9505 usando Tapatalk
Update available in india of 700mb :thumbup:
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estugarda said:
It has KNOX, so obviously it does if you don't play by their rules.
And as suspected; no Note3 features.
For me; no thanks.
Waiting for knox-free, note3 modded ROMs.
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Estugarda from PCE ? xulos is here
Btw i know it has knox, i want to know will it raise counter if i flash it via ODIN ?
chuck it
No new S Pen features, or the new S Note?
#disappoint
ViD0 said:
Estugarda from PCE ? xulos is here
Btw i know it has knox, i want to know will it raise counter if i flash it via ODIN ?
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Yes, it's me.
Well, I'm not sure about raising the counter since I didn't try it myself. Some people reported it. Too early to tell.
It would be logical to make it so that it doesn't raise the flag for the first time. On the other hand, Samsung isn't really logical lately.
jdomadia said:
Wait is over for my Indian bro......:good:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
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That link is for the N7105 mate not the N7100
Correct link:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/19...eives-official-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
estugarda said:
Yes, it's me.
Well, I'm not sure about raising the counter since I didn't try it myself. Some people reported it. Too early to tell.
It would be logical to make it so that it doesn't raise the flag for the first time. On the other hand, Samsung isn't really logical lately.
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So that means that we cant use ODIN anymore to upgrade our officially FWs? Im on stock 4.1.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3 via ODIN and my knox counter will be 1 ? thats a cr**
estugarda said:
I wouldn't flash this ROM via ODIN. Some people reported installation failure and KNOX warranty void flags. Fix your Custom status with TriangleAway. Then you will be able to update over OTA, if it is already available for your provider. However, even so, I wouldn't recommend flashing this or updating. It has KNOX so you will not be able to go back if this is buggy, and you will not be able to root without loosing warranty.
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Thanks for your reply. I reset the counter via triangle away. But I am not sure how to fix custom status and then get OTA updata?
ViD0 said:
So that means that we cant use ODIN anymore to upgrade our officially FWs? Im on stock 4.1.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3 via ODIN and my knox counter will be 1 ? thats a cr**
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As I said; I'm not sure about that, since I didn't try.
You should be able to flash it via ODIN. The question is; will it trigger the flag...? Some people said so. I don't know and certainly won't try. I'm waiting for knox-free...
tsk1979 said:
Thanks for your reply. I reset the counter via triangle away. But I am not sure how to fix custom status and then get OTA updata?
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Triangle Away should fix the status. You must reastart your phone any give it few minutes. It doesn't always work, but mostly yes. There are also few settings in Triangle Away. Allow tracker to run and System modified workaround. Experiment with those. And remember to leave your phone alone for few minutes before you check the status. There is a reason for that.
It certainly works for me. I'm rooted, and get OTAs.
estugarda said:
As I said. I'm not sure about that.
Triangle Away should fix the status. You must reastart your phone any give it few minutes. It doesn't always work, but mostly yes. There are also few settings in Triangle Away. Allow tracker to run and System modified workaround. Experiment with those. And remember to leave your phone alone for few minutes before you check the status. There is a reason for that.
It certainly works for me. I'm rooted, and get OTAs.
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Im always on stock so i dont have to reset with triangle away so my q is still : "So that means that we cant use ODIN anymore to upgrade our officially FWs? Im on stock 4.1.2 and i want to upgrade to 4.3 via ODIN and my knox counter will be 1 ? thats a cr**"
waiting for someone to confirm or deny.

[Q] How ro unroot S4 to get update

Hi,
I had my S4 (Rogers) on stock ROM with root. I want to put back the original ROM so I can upgrade to 4.3. I used Kies to put back original ROM but now when I try to upgrade I get a message saying my phone was modified and I cannot upgrade. How do I put the original ROM so I can upgrade my phone? Do I have to flash a ROM with Odin and if so where do I get the original ROM for my phone (Rogers).
Thanks.
Ignore this post. You have an i337m. That method will not work for you.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
HORiZUN said:
Get the mf3 md5 files, put phone into download mode, use Odin to restore to stock.
You will be able to update after that, but I'm pretty sure I read they pulled the update due to issues people were having.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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what issues ? I got mine from Bell yesterday and its an update worth the trouble to go back to stock IMO.
Im very happy with 4.3.
Problems appear to be isolated within AT&T users.
http://m.gsmarena.com/android_43_update_for_at_t_galaxy_s4_gets_delayed_as_well-news-7209.php
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
in general, to unroot your phone,
Open SuperSu, go to the Settings tab, scroll down until you will find Full unroot. Click it and proceed with the instructions.
Good luck, let me know if it worked for you
HORiZUN said:
Problems appear to be isolated within AT&T users.
http://m.gsmarena.com/android_43_update_for_at_t_galaxy_s4_gets_delayed_as_well-news-7209.php
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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the OP says he is with Rogers...
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love is me said:
in general, to unroot your phone,
Open SuperSu, go to the Settings tab, scroll down until you will find Full unroot. Click it and proceed with the instructions.
Good luck, let me know if it worked for you
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Triangle away + Unroot (SuperSU) wasnt enougn in my case. I had to install an Official Stock ROM and then proceed with OTA update.
slam666 said:
Hi,
I had my S4 (Rogers) on stock ROM with root. I want to put back the original ROM so I can upgrade to 4.3. I used Kies to put back original ROM but now when I try to upgrade I get a message saying my phone was modified and I cannot upgrade. How do I put the original ROM so I can upgrade my phone? Do I have to flash a ROM with Odin and if so where do I get the original ROM for my phone (Rogers).
Thanks.
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sammobile.com has the new Rogers 4.3 MK6 .tar file in the firmware section.....download and flash 4.3 via Odin.
I did unroot too my device status is still custom. I tried flashing AMG1 on top still says custom...
duykhang524 said:
I did unroot too my device status is still custom. I tried flashing AMG1 on top still says custom...
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No matter what stock rom I try to use, oden fails with a write protection enabled. Actually I see this write protection on the phone when I start it in download mode. Can someone help me with this.
Thanks
Same here, I flashed the stock rom so no root or any custom anything but I still can't get OTA updates
unroot not success
Relayers said:
the OP says he is with Rogers...
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Triangle away + Unroot (SuperSU) wasnt enougn in my case. I had to install an Official Stock ROM and then proceed with OTA update.
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that is not the way to unroot i have already tried this but still device is rooted now its show modified when i try to update.
reddysp said:
that is not the way to unroot i have already tried this but still device is rooted now its show modified when i try to update.
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You have to make sure busybox gets uninstalled also. Sometimes it is left there and that trips the custom status.

ota updates

Hi! I have the i9505 rooted! I have used triangle away to reset the flash counter which now reads 0, but I still cannot update ota. The device status still comes up as custom. Anyone know a way around this? Thanks!
juzzy16 said:
Hi! I have the i9505 rooted! I have used triangle away to reset the flash counter which now reads 0, but I still cannot update ota. The device status still comes up as custom. Anyone know a way around this? Thanks!
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try wanam xposed to fake system status
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
anu.cool said:
try wanam xposed to fake system status
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
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Tried that, but no joy. Could this be down to knox being set to 0x1??
juzzy16 said:
Tried that, but no joy. Could this be down to knox being set to 0x1??
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u need to be on stock samsung to get system status as official ..Incase u already are, try wanam xposed again .. That should work ..
i dont think knox counter interfere with system status, both are separate ..
anu.cool said:
u need to be on stock samsung to get system status as official ..Incase u already are, try wanam xposed again .. That should work ..
i dont think knox counter interfere with system status, both are separate ..
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Yep, im on stock. i used triangle away. it has put counter back to 0, and says that Binary: official and system: Official, but device status still comes up at custom. I used wanam and even with that i still have the same problem. Any ideas??
juzzy16 said:
Yep, im on stock. i used triangle away. it has put counter back to 0, and says that Binary: official and system: Official, but device status still comes up at custom. I used wanam and even with that i still have the same problem. Any ideas??
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To receive ota you don't have to be rooted, even you are stock.
re: update issue
juzzy16 said:
Hi! I have the i9505 rooted! I have used triangle away to reset the flash counter which now reads 0, but I still cannot update ota. The device status still comes up as custom. Anyone know a way around this? Thanks!
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You forgot to un-root the phone.
Go to app drawer and click on SuperSU and you will
find an option which says "Full Unroot" select that
and reboot the phone and try the OTA and or Kies
update again.
Good luck!

System status suddenly showing custom

I have rooted my phone using towel root when it came out and the system status was still official, nothing has change on my phone since then not even a firmware update and just today I noticed that my system status is already custom, I saw this a few days back and it was still official. Is there anyway to revert this back to official aside from a wipe and a stock reflash ? Would greenifying some system apps cause this because that was the change I made yesterday..
EarlZ said:
I have rooted my phone using towel root when it came out and the system status was still official, nothing has change on my phone since then not even a firmware update and just today I noticed that my system status is already custom, I saw this a few days back and it was still official. Is there anyway to revert this back to official aside from a wipe and a stock reflash ? Would greenifying some system apps cause this because that was the change I made yesterday..
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Read about stuff like Wanam xposed.
xclub_101 said:
Read about stuff like Wanam xposed.
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I already had wanam installed on the same day and it did not trigger the status. Is there a specific change in Wanam that triggers it ?
EarlZ said:
I already had wanam installed on the same day and it did not trigger the status. Is there a specific change in Wanam that triggers it ?
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Security hacks -> fake system status.
xclub_101 said:
Security hacks -> fake system status.
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That doesnt seem to fix the one displayed in download mode.
Im more interested on what triggered it and how to fix it with out a wipe.
EarlZ said:
That doesnt seem to fix the one displayed in download mode.
Im more interested on what triggered it and how to fix it with out a wipe.
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Why does a custom binary tick you off so much you would want a wipe? Who would go into Download mode and take a look at your custom binary and say "OooOoOOOooOoOooooo this guy has Custom in System Status!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneone"
KNOX is what should tick you off, I could care less whether my System Status shows Official or Custom, because it's not permanent, just flash back to stock if any and it will return back to Official.
Because of OC. Sorry if this post offends you.
@EarlZ system status is always custom when your rooted, isnt it? Correct me if iam wrong.
I used cf auto root
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005
EarlZ said:
Because of OC. Sorry if this post offends you.
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Not offended... Regardless OC means a lot of things. Like overclocking.... What do you mean by OC?
thahim said:
@EarlZ system status is always custom when your rooted, isnt it? Correct me if iam wrong.
I used cf auto root
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005
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I can guarantee that with 4.3 rooted with URDLV and Wanam xposed I have knox 0 and (fake) status official in download mode. I do not know first-hand with knox 0x1 (as after cf auto root) or 4.4.
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EarlZ said:
That doesnt seem to fix the one displayed in download mode.
Im more interested on what triggered it and how to fix it with out a wipe.
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See above.
thahim said:
@EarlZ system status is always custom when your rooted, isnt it? Correct me if iam wrong.
I used cf auto root
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005
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xclub_101 said:
I can guarantee that with 4.3 rooted with URDLV and Wanam xposed I have knox 0 and (fake) status official in download mode. I do not know first-hand with knox 0x1 (as after cf auto root) or 4.4.
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See above.
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Like what I posted, I used towel root and both Knox and System status was untouched. A few days ago I checked up on both and it was still official and 0x0, but yesterday it changed to custom. I understand that I can fix this by reflashing to all stock but what I am trying to also understand is what suddenly triggered it and if possible how to revert it with out wipe.
EarlZ said:
Like what I posted, I used towel root and both Knox and System status was untouched. A few days ago I checked up on both and it was still official and 0x0, but yesterday it changed to custom. I understand that I can fix this by reflashing to all stock but what I am trying to also understand is what suddenly triggered it and if possible how to revert it with out wipe.
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I have same situation like you. Use wanam and you will be official in a download meny
Okay, you're not the only ones who got this situation.
For me, custom is better than official, since there is no possibility to accidentally update OTA, if I'm right.
But if you want your status back to official, try wiping cache from recovery. If that does not help, uninstall Wanam Xposed and then wipe again
If you use SEARCH you might found that You are NOT the only one with the problem you have, and the answer most likely is out there, just search, search and then search again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783954&page=14

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