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I'll have the aussie model in couple of days and I want to flash a stock ROM from a different region onto it (to bypass some of the dumb lock downs the aussie one has...)
Questions:
Will this trigger the knox warranty e fuse flag?
And
Will i then need worry about regional locks?
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Also keen to know as well. I've seen some people say yes and others say no.
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I *think* its ok, provided the firmware you're loading isn't an older one than what you already have.
Even more sure if you don't have a knox firmware currently...
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I asked the question in another thread and got two different answers so I wanted to see if anyone tried it.
This one said yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46122037#post46122037
This one said no:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46247553#post46247553
I've also got an Australian Note 3 and in the past with my previous phones (Note 2 and S4) I flashed the UK stock ROM to get around the restrictions imposed on the Australian ROM. Before I do it again, I want to see if someone has tried it without any negative impact.
I started a previous thread with this question:
"I have a Note 3 n9005 XXUBMI7 firmware with csc N9005XSABMI1 (Australia) - unlocked, no carrier.
Will the Omega ROM V1.0 work on my phone (ie will, it support English(Australia)?)"
I am interested (ultimately) in experimenting with custom roms - as I did in my previous Note 1. This process will require a root and TWRP/CWM and will almost certainly void warranty because Knox Security digit will be set from 0 to 1 - unless someone finds a workaround.
What I am not sure about is the region coding - it seems that Samsung has a firmware version for every region (Australia is XSA)
playdough said:
I started a previous thread with this question:
"I have a Note 3 n9005 XXUBMI7 firmware with csc N9005XSABMI1 (Australia) - unlocked, no carrier.
Will the Omega ROM V1.0 work on my phone (ie will, it support English(Australia)?)"
I am interested (ultimately) in experimenting with custom roms - as I did in my previous Note 1. This process will require a root and TWRP/CWM and will almost certainly void warranty because Knox Security digit will be set from 0 to 1 - unless someone finds a workaround.
What I am not sure about is the region coding - it seems that Samsung has a firmware version for every region (Australia is XSA)
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All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
Apra24 said:
All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
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I'm pretty sure that Samsung's strategy is to make their devices a Samsung managed (and standardised) product (ala Apple and Microsoft) by locking owners into their firmware and even going beyond with region control. The only options, I believe, are either to stick with them at their behest or void warranty and support for personal freedom of choice. My view is that if software does not physically damage a device then I should be entitled to warranty claim if there is a manufacturing fault.
I was really referring to stock ROMs rather than custom.
Custom ROMs will flip the Knox switch.
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Do not try and flash stock firmware from another region. It will not trigger the knox flag but the flash will fail in Odin and then you'll have to flash back the correct stock firmware for your region in order to be able to boot the phone again. The only way around it is to install a custom recovery and flash modified firmware which definitely will trigger the Knox flag.
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dr.m0x said:
Do not try and flash stock firmware from another region. It will not trigger the knox flag but the flash will fail in Odin and then you'll have to flash back the correct stock firmware for your region in order to be able to boot the phone again. The only way around it is to install a custom recovery and flash modified firmware which definitely will trigger the Knox flag.
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The mexican stock for sm-n900w8 went through fine as a Bell/Canadian user... but only the first time. I tried it because there are no Bell firmwares available. After trying to flash SuperSU, and having it crash constantly, causing me to re-flash the firmware.. it no longer worked.
Apra24 said:
The mexican stock for sm-n900w8 went through fine as a Bell/Canadian user... but only the first time. I tried it because there are no Bell firmwares available. After trying to flash SuperSU, and having it crash constantly, causing me to re-flash the firmware.. it no longer worked.
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If your Knox flag is already set you may as well try the custom recovery and ROM option since it sounds like your phone is buggered.
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Got the same question, I want to switch from the swiss unlocked (AUT) stock rom to either the german (DBT) or UK (BTU) one. I even compared the files of the AUT and DBT tar.md5 and only cache.img.ext4 and hidden.img.ext4 are different, all others a binary identical.
Could I limit Odin to only exchange those two data files and nothing else?
In Android-Hilfe.de an User tried it..
First he had Vodafone Branding, then he flashed the Open Germany Firmware.. Without Problems.. Knox is still 0x0
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My EE (UK) SM-N9005 CSC is N9005EVRBMI2 and I've just used Odin v3.09 to flash the KIES ROM with the CSC N9005OXABMI6 (same as SIM-free phones).
Knox warranty is still 0x0
Apra24 said:
All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
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You've probably set the reactivation lock enabled, therefore stopping the restore
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dehaani said:
My EE (UK) SM-N9005 CSC is N9005EVRBMI2 and I've just used Odin v3.09 to flash the KIES ROM with the CSC N9005OXABMI6 (same as SIM-free phones).
Knox warranty is still 0x0
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I had to do a device wipe from recovery menu to reset the CSC from EVR to BTU.
Then I got the FOTA update to MJ1 so it seemed like my phone is now indistinguishable from a SIM-free device but...
Kies still knows something's up. It reports the CSC as BTU but says "Your device's current firmware version is not supported to update firmware via Kies".
I wonder how Kies knows? Any ideas?
I found a local user that has been able to do this successfully
Used this Firmware:
N9005XXUBMI7_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI.zip
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=XSI#firmware
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-..._A/E3sK9J9W9L0/w831-h661-no/note3firmware.png
senectus said:
I found a local user that has been able to do this successfully
Used this Firmware:
N9005XXUBMI7_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI.zip
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=XSI#firmware
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-..._A/E3sK9J9W9L0/w831-h661-no/note3firmware.png
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Does he still have HD Voice with that firmware?
Will endeavour to find out... How does one check?
(still waiting on my unit to turn up :-[)
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senectus said:
Will endeavour to find out... How does one check?
(still waiting on my unit to turn up :-[)
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Nevermind. I've taken the plunge and trying it. I'll report back.
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Ok.
I flashed the latest Unknown Country ROM (XSI) from SamMobile which was "N9005XXUBMJ1_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI". Originally, I was running a Vodafone Australia ROM (VAU).
I used ODIN 3.04 and reset the device in recovery after the ROM was updated.
The CSC is now XSI and the KNOX warranty trigger is 0x0 (Woohoo)!
With the new ROM, it also bypassed all the Australian restrictions. These were:
- Unable to change dock applications
- No auto rotate in gallery
- Unable to silence camera shutter
- Shortcuts not available as an option on lock screen
HD Voice is also still working.
Hi guys. I have just bought my note 3 from three uk and although I don't want to root it yet, I do want the stock, non rooted firmware as I don't think three UK will be updating it anytime soon.
I don't want to risk messing up my warranty or knox or even adding to a flash counter so hopefully the stock firmware won't cause problems there.
I haven't used odin for over 2 years as I have flashed new roms to my s2 via recovery ever since the first Flash way back when.
Could someone confirm I shouldn't have any issues with the concerns I mention above. Also is there already a tutorial for the process and lastly, what firmware would I need for my uk, quad core device which is 9005 version?
Thanks in advance.
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Im using a note3 which came with stock UK btu firmware. Had loads of problems with signal, internet speed and various apps that use the internet. Rooted tripping my Knox and installed x-note v3. I then downloaded three UK modem and three UK CSC file and flashed them in Odin and everything is working so much better now. I'm also using my note 3 on full brightness and I'm getting between 6 and 8 hours screen on time. Loving it.
If I were you I'd stick to three's firmware unless your happy to trip Knox then I'd flash a custom ROM and try and keep 3's modem and CSC
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Thanks for the reply.
By sticking to official samsung firmware minus the three branding and not rooting I shouldn't trip knox or the flash count anyway apparently.
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guys, please, any advice and guidance appreciated before i can do this.
hi guys have an s4 in the uk im bored of stock touchwiz an want to install a custom rom. can i do this even tho its locked to 3? or do i have to unlock 1st? or does it not matter cheers guys?
Yes you can, you can change officially via Odin or install custom recovery and flash whatever rom you desire. I got my S4 back last year on o2 then flashed the BTU (unbranded UK version straight away) and now run the Google Edition rom. However I am on the bootloader and can flash whatever I wish without tripping KNOX but only via CWM.
What current firmware are you on?
im on three locked. firmware is the new 4.3 software.
so do i just root an flash cwm and im ok or?
Be aware as you have a KNOX bootloader installing recovery will trip this and you can't reverse it.
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so what does this mean?
KNOX when tripped can cause issues with warranty. Now as we live in the UK we have warranty covered for 2 years by the EU. But it's like a warranty flag they could use that against you and not fix any issues, it will also disable KNOX which is a security feature but more for commercial rather than personal and it you will not be able to downgrade your firmware.
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hmm so basically if i do this put a custom rom on then decide against it and want to go back to my stock rom or any other rom i wont be able to?
You'll be able to go back to whatever stock rom you were originally on or higher. I suggest looking in the android development section for the pre rooted roms, I think there are ways to flash a custom rooted rom without recovery without tripping the knox flag.
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ahh so its better if i just flash a pre rooted rom then?
so u think its better if i dont flash any recoverys but then how do i flash the rom over odin or?
Just come from an S2 and on that I installed a custom recovery, wiped everything and flashed the new rom going from vodafone to UK, worked fine!
Now I see this S4 has knox, I would rather not trip that messing about with the phone so I am wondering if a custom bootloader like cwm on the S2 will trip knox if I run it and wipe the phone to allow the csc change?
I would like to give the german rom a go and then when released wipe it all and stick the UK one on without tripping a thing and allowing kies to work in the future.
Any advice?
Thanks.
Flashing official firmware will not trip KNOX. Moreover, some custom recovery will do. So be careful if you will root your phone.
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Most things I use root for on the S2 are part of the S4's default stuff so I can live without root.
It's the bit about being able to swap to a new csc that worries me, on the S2 I had to format everything then flash a new rom that had the new CSC for it to take and work with Kies, or is this no longer the case with the S4?
also what custom recoveries can run without tripping knox so I can format the lot?
system, preload (if it is still used on the S4) Data etc.
Thanks.
GoNz0 said:
Most things I use root for on the S2 are part of the S4's default stuff so I can live without root.
It's the bit about being able to swap to a new csc that worries me, on the S2 I had to format everything then flash a new rom that had the new CSC for it to take and work with Kies, or is this no longer the case with the S4?
also what custom recoveries can run without tripping knox so I can format the lot?
system, preload (if it is still used on the S4) Data etc.
Thanks.
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You'll have to change the CSC yourself.
I have read that some TWRP users did not trip their KNOX flag. Not sure though. AFAIK, any custom recovery will trip KNOX. I think it's Samsung's way of preventing us to use other ROMs? IDK.
cheers ~
I guess we will see!
Thanks.
Hello everyone
I wonder if anyone can give me a concise answer...
I have bought a brand new SM-G900F of e*bay.
It turned out to be a HongKong CSC of TGY.
Normally I wouldn't mind that but after two weeks it became somewhat sluggish so I decided to remove/disable some of the apps running in the background.
I have no root access and the knox is still 0x0 so I couldn't mess with the system apps anyway.
But, for some strange reason my phone's status became CUSTOM???
I've checked the knox and its still 0x0 but I cannot check for updates anymore
So I wondered if I could change my CSC to a UK one without root access and without tripping knox?
If not, is my only option factory reset? Will it bring OFFICIAL status to my phone?
Thanks in advance.
T
Nope bro, you will be safe as long as you don't root your device.
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Ok, thank you
Can I then change the CSC without root?
If yes, then what is the easiest way of doing so?
I did try googling the subject but all the results correspond to Note3, etc...
Allright, ignore my previous post,
I've found the app called PhoneInfo that does it all for me...
Thanks again
My phone was unlocked Germany T-Mobile and and i wanted to remove carrier apps so i flashed an unbranded stock image from sammobile.com with Odin.
It seams that it didn't trip knox flag, it's still 0x0 and device status "official".
I didn't wanted to change CSC because it factory resets the phone and my firmware was not the latest anyways.
My status changes to Custom, when I enable Art, instead of Dalvik.
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wolek76 said:
Allright, ignore my previous post,
I've found the app called PhoneInfo that does it all for me...
Thanks again
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Can you share a link?
Alright. It's been a few hours since I've asked the question.
The phoneinfo app is here
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vnd
But it will not change CSC without root I think.(I tried but it complained about lack of SU something).
So instead I just factory reset my phone and had gotten back to official status.
I really didn't want to play with Odin.
I'm hoping to keep Knox 0x0 as long as possible.
Sorry for the confusion, if any...
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wolek76 said:
Alright. It's been a few hours since I've asked the question.
The phoneinfo app is here
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vnd
But it will not change CSC without root I think.(I tried but it complained about lack of SU something).
So instead I just factory reset my phone and had gotten back to official status.
I really didn't want to play with Odin.
I'm hoping to keep Knox 0x0 as long as possible.
Sorry for the confusion, if any...
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there is an usefull thread for your concern, you can find it here
they state clearly that, change csc could "factory reset" your phone
if you cannot change csc through s5 secret code, you can use csc changer from play store
good luck
babygau said:
there is an usefull thread for your concern, you can find it here
they state clearly that, change csc could "factory reset" your phone
if you cannot change csc through s5 secret code, you can use csc changer from play store
good luck
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But CSC Changer requires root, and getting root trips Knox, as far as I'm aware.
I'm also looking for a way to change CSC without tripping Knox, as I want to move from a carrier branded device to unbranded (BTU). I think that I can just flash a BTU ROM, but then it won't get updates as the CSCs won't match.
arghness said:
But CSC Changer requires root, and getting root trips Knox, as far as I'm aware.
I'm also looking for a way to change CSC without tripping Knox, as I want to move from a carrier branded device to unbranded (BTU). I think that I can just flash a BTU ROM, but then it won't get updates as the CSCs won't match.
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There are 2 ways:
1. Use secret code from my previous post, you might overlook that part
2. Use Odin to flash your desired CSC
You don't have to root your device to change CSC
babygau said:
There are 2 ways:
1. Use secret code from my previous post, you might overlook that part
2. Use Odin to flash your desired CSC
You don't have to root your device to change CSC
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I don't think the code works on the GS5 (at least not on my branded version).
I'll look in to flashing a CSC via Odin -- I haven't seen how to do that yet, or if it affects Knox. Flashing another ROM with a different CSC should work, I think, but I don't think that changes the CSC, so there won't be any automatic ROM updates.
arghness said:
I don't think the code works on the GS5 (at least not on my branded version).
I'll look in to flashing a CSC via Odin -- I haven't seen how to do that yet, or if it affects Knox. Flashing another ROM with a different CSC should work, I think, but I don't think that changes the CSC, so there won't be any automatic ROM updates.
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I'm stuck in this predicament. I have a tmobile galaxy s5 and was just going to flash a G900F firmware with the tmobile(G900T) modem but found out after I brought the phone that the phone is locked to the tmobile variant firmware. That sucks. And there is no break out of the modem, CSC, and phone yet so no go.