I'll have the aussie model in couple of days and I want to flash a stock ROM from a different region onto it (to bypass some of the dumb lock downs the aussie one has...)
Questions:
Will this trigger the knox warranty e fuse flag?
And
Will i then need worry about regional locks?
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Also keen to know as well. I've seen some people say yes and others say no.
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I *think* its ok, provided the firmware you're loading isn't an older one than what you already have.
Even more sure if you don't have a knox firmware currently...
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I asked the question in another thread and got two different answers so I wanted to see if anyone tried it.
This one said yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46122037#post46122037
This one said no:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46247553#post46247553
I've also got an Australian Note 3 and in the past with my previous phones (Note 2 and S4) I flashed the UK stock ROM to get around the restrictions imposed on the Australian ROM. Before I do it again, I want to see if someone has tried it without any negative impact.
I started a previous thread with this question:
"I have a Note 3 n9005 XXUBMI7 firmware with csc N9005XSABMI1 (Australia) - unlocked, no carrier.
Will the Omega ROM V1.0 work on my phone (ie will, it support English(Australia)?)"
I am interested (ultimately) in experimenting with custom roms - as I did in my previous Note 1. This process will require a root and TWRP/CWM and will almost certainly void warranty because Knox Security digit will be set from 0 to 1 - unless someone finds a workaround.
What I am not sure about is the region coding - it seems that Samsung has a firmware version for every region (Australia is XSA)
playdough said:
I started a previous thread with this question:
"I have a Note 3 n9005 XXUBMI7 firmware with csc N9005XSABMI1 (Australia) - unlocked, no carrier.
Will the Omega ROM V1.0 work on my phone (ie will, it support English(Australia)?)"
I am interested (ultimately) in experimenting with custom roms - as I did in my previous Note 1. This process will require a root and TWRP/CWM and will almost certainly void warranty because Knox Security digit will be set from 0 to 1 - unless someone finds a workaround.
What I am not sure about is the region coding - it seems that Samsung has a firmware version for every region (Australia is XSA)
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All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
Apra24 said:
All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
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I'm pretty sure that Samsung's strategy is to make their devices a Samsung managed (and standardised) product (ala Apple and Microsoft) by locking owners into their firmware and even going beyond with region control. The only options, I believe, are either to stick with them at their behest or void warranty and support for personal freedom of choice. My view is that if software does not physically damage a device then I should be entitled to warranty claim if there is a manufacturing fault.
I was really referring to stock ROMs rather than custom.
Custom ROMs will flip the Knox switch.
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Do not try and flash stock firmware from another region. It will not trigger the knox flag but the flash will fail in Odin and then you'll have to flash back the correct stock firmware for your region in order to be able to boot the phone again. The only way around it is to install a custom recovery and flash modified firmware which definitely will trigger the Knox flag.
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dr.m0x said:
Do not try and flash stock firmware from another region. It will not trigger the knox flag but the flash will fail in Odin and then you'll have to flash back the correct stock firmware for your region in order to be able to boot the phone again. The only way around it is to install a custom recovery and flash modified firmware which definitely will trigger the Knox flag.
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The mexican stock for sm-n900w8 went through fine as a Bell/Canadian user... but only the first time. I tried it because there are no Bell firmwares available. After trying to flash SuperSU, and having it crash constantly, causing me to re-flash the firmware.. it no longer worked.
Apra24 said:
The mexican stock for sm-n900w8 went through fine as a Bell/Canadian user... but only the first time. I tried it because there are no Bell firmwares available. After trying to flash SuperSU, and having it crash constantly, causing me to re-flash the firmware.. it no longer worked.
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If your Knox flag is already set you may as well try the custom recovery and ROM option since it sounds like your phone is buggered.
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Got the same question, I want to switch from the swiss unlocked (AUT) stock rom to either the german (DBT) or UK (BTU) one. I even compared the files of the AUT and DBT tar.md5 and only cache.img.ext4 and hidden.img.ext4 are different, all others a binary identical.
Could I limit Odin to only exchange those two data files and nothing else?
In Android-Hilfe.de an User tried it..
First he had Vodafone Branding, then he flashed the Open Germany Firmware.. Without Problems.. Knox is still 0x0
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My EE (UK) SM-N9005 CSC is N9005EVRBMI2 and I've just used Odin v3.09 to flash the KIES ROM with the CSC N9005OXABMI6 (same as SIM-free phones).
Knox warranty is still 0x0
Apra24 said:
All I know is that after being boot looped, I was able to load the mexican firmware... but then after trying to flash SuperSU, which caused nothing but bugs, I tried to reinstall that same firmware and got another boot loop. I am now unable to install any available n900w8 firmware successfully. Some type of flag has been triggered on my phone that's preventing me from using a stock kernel/firmware... that's all I know.
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You've probably set the reactivation lock enabled, therefore stopping the restore
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dehaani said:
My EE (UK) SM-N9005 CSC is N9005EVRBMI2 and I've just used Odin v3.09 to flash the KIES ROM with the CSC N9005OXABMI6 (same as SIM-free phones).
Knox warranty is still 0x0
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I had to do a device wipe from recovery menu to reset the CSC from EVR to BTU.
Then I got the FOTA update to MJ1 so it seemed like my phone is now indistinguishable from a SIM-free device but...
Kies still knows something's up. It reports the CSC as BTU but says "Your device's current firmware version is not supported to update firmware via Kies".
I wonder how Kies knows? Any ideas?
I found a local user that has been able to do this successfully
Used this Firmware:
N9005XXUBMI7_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI.zip
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=XSI#firmware
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-..._A/E3sK9J9W9L0/w831-h661-no/note3firmware.png
senectus said:
I found a local user that has been able to do this successfully
Used this Firmware:
N9005XXUBMI7_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI.zip
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=XSI#firmware
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-..._A/E3sK9J9W9L0/w831-h661-no/note3firmware.png
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Does he still have HD Voice with that firmware?
Will endeavour to find out... How does one check?
(still waiting on my unit to turn up :-[)
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senectus said:
Will endeavour to find out... How does one check?
(still waiting on my unit to turn up :-[)
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Nevermind. I've taken the plunge and trying it. I'll report back.
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Ok.
I flashed the latest Unknown Country ROM (XSI) from SamMobile which was "N9005XXUBMJ1_N9005OJVBMI2_XSI". Originally, I was running a Vodafone Australia ROM (VAU).
I used ODIN 3.04 and reset the device in recovery after the ROM was updated.
The CSC is now XSI and the KNOX warranty trigger is 0x0 (Woohoo)!
With the new ROM, it also bypassed all the Australian restrictions. These were:
- Unable to change dock applications
- No auto rotate in gallery
- Unable to silence camera shutter
- Shortcuts not available as an option on lock screen
HD Voice is also still working.
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Hi,
I have question regarding the OTA update, which I am not get it in my Note 3 SM-N9005 (not rooted),my current firmware is MJ1. When i click on check for update it tells me that i have the latest firmware!!
Am i missing something?why my note 3 not updating?
thank you.
It hasn't been rolled out to your region yet.
ilikegoogle said:
It hasn't been rolled out to your region yet.
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how long does it take to rollout to all regions?
I live in Malaysia
thank you
OTA
I got my OTA update yesterday yet to find out the change log for your region I guess the update has not yet been rolled out it will take some more time
Dahdoul said:
Hi,
I have question regarding the OTA update, which I am not get it in my Note 3 SM-N9005 (not rooted),my current firmware is MJ1. When i click on check for update it tells me that i have the latest firmware!!
Am i missing something?why my note 3 not updating?
thank you.
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just go here and download latest update http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N9005
and save yourself lot of time waiting for update
Just be aware you will change your CSC and also your bootloader to the newest. As your region hasn't updated to a firmware with the latest bootloader if you have a problem and need to do an emergency firmware restore, it won't work. Your phone will start bootlooping as the older firmware is incompatible with the new bootloader...
ultramag69 said:
Just be aware you will change your CSC and also your bootloader to the newest. As your region hasn't updated to a firmware with the latest bootloader if you have a problem and need to do an emergency firmware restore, it won't work. Your phone will start bootlooping as the older firmware is incompatible with the new bootloader...
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so I shouldn't update if I'm rooted?
wudien said:
so I shouldn't update if I'm rooted?
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OK, depends how you do it. I've used Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade firmware from MJ1 to MJ7 while still retaining root. This also has the extra benefit of NOT flashing that new crusty bootloader that won't allow root or triggering warranty void.
Also I can still do my emergency recovery as it has the old bootloader.
There are people using RDLVC to upgrade to newer firmwares but Mobile ODIN Pro is easier for me (just remember though, Knox will ALWAYS be triggered if you flash a custom kernel\recovery - this is for stock flash only).
As long as you have the old bootloader, you can upgrade using MOP without triggering Knox.
Kingoapp and Vroot have been removed from XDA as there was extra information being taken from your device for no good reason... You will probably see clone phones with these IMEI's coming out in a while...
ultramag69 said:
OK, depends how you do it. I've used Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade firmware from MJ1 to MJ7 while still retaining root. This also has the extra benefit of NOT flashing that new crusty bootloader that won't allow root or triggering warranty void.
Also I can still do my emergency recovery as it has the old bootloader.
There are people using RDLVC to upgrade to newer firmwares but Mobile ODIN Pro is easier for me (just remember though, Knox will ALWAYS be triggered if you flash a custom kernel\recovery - this is for stock flash only).
As long as you have the old bootloader, you can upgrade using MOP without triggering Knox.
Kingoapp and Vroot have been removed from XDA as there was extra information being taken from your device for no good reason... You will probably see clone phones with these IMEI's coming out in a while...
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well. Unfortunately att forcefully updated my phone while I was sleeping and broke root . but it says I'm still on MJ5..
wudien said:
well. Unfortunately att forcefully updated my phone while I was sleeping and broke root . but it says I'm still on MJ5..
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As far as I've read, anything over MJ3 contains the new anti-root bootloader. Flashing any form of root will trigger knox warranty void...
Does the latest update activate KNOX? I've blocked my phone from OTAs after seeing the chaos caused by Samsung with the euro S4s.
Are you sure xsa is for galaxy s4 i9505?
I can only find xsa for galaxy s3.
The only Australian 4.3 I can find is for optus which is MK9
http://live.samsung-updates.com/index.php?device=GT-I9505
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XSA for I9505 is available on Samfirmware (so is the Voda update) and as it's XXUE, yes, it has the 'Knox enabled' bootloader; I.E the one that has gives you this pic in DL mode & at the moment has no way of resetting the Knox warranty if you flash non-stock firmware.
MistahBungle said:
XSA for I9505 is available on Samfirmware (so is the Voda update) and as it's XXUE, yes, it has the 'Knox enabled' bootloader; I.E the one that has gives you this pic in DL mode & at the moment has no way of resetting the Knox warranty if you flash non-stock firmware.
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Awesome thank Mistah.
I9505XXUEMK9_I9505VAUEMK1_VAU
Obviously that other website not up to date.
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No worries
Thanks for the confirmation. I'm totally not updating with official stock firmware anymore.
Unless you're happy with always running a completely stock phone, that's a wise choice
Oniyuri said:
Thanks for the confirmation. I'm totally not updating with official stock firmware anymore.
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I was one of the impatient ones and flashed the stock Polish 4.4.2 onto my N9005 and rooted with CWM. Everything has been fine but now I wish to flash my regions stock rom BTU unbranded. However every time I do so via Odin 3.09 I am presented with the Polish welcome screen and when you look in the settings it's still the XEO firmware. Even the System Status and Current Binary shows up as Custom still?
It's known problem, u need to flash first single csc firmware e.g Singapore & than BTU multi csc.
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jdomadia said:
It's known problem, u need to flash first single csc firmware e.g Singapore & than BTU multi csc.
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Thats great thanks. This was the missing link I needed :good: I shall also assume that the Custom/Modified status will always remain due to KNOX being tripped to 0x1
u8er-n3rd said:
Thats great thanks. This was the missing link I needed :good: I shall also assume that the Custom/Modified status will always remain due to KNOX being tripped to 0x1
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U can make it official(FAKE) to receive OTA but knox counter will remain 0x1
P.S. After&Before flash rom from singapore than UK u need to clear data & catch which flashes your Internal meomery.
jdomadia said:
U can make it official(FAKE) to receive OTA but knox counter will remain 0x1
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Im aware of the Xposed method but that has to be rooted. If there is no other way I shall just go back to being rooted I guess
Hello everyone
I wonder if anyone can give me a concise answer...
I have bought a brand new SM-G900F of e*bay.
It turned out to be a HongKong CSC of TGY.
Normally I wouldn't mind that but after two weeks it became somewhat sluggish so I decided to remove/disable some of the apps running in the background.
I have no root access and the knox is still 0x0 so I couldn't mess with the system apps anyway.
But, for some strange reason my phone's status became CUSTOM???
I've checked the knox and its still 0x0 but I cannot check for updates anymore
So I wondered if I could change my CSC to a UK one without root access and without tripping knox?
If not, is my only option factory reset? Will it bring OFFICIAL status to my phone?
Thanks in advance.
T
Nope bro, you will be safe as long as you don't root your device.
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Ok, thank you
Can I then change the CSC without root?
If yes, then what is the easiest way of doing so?
I did try googling the subject but all the results correspond to Note3, etc...
Allright, ignore my previous post,
I've found the app called PhoneInfo that does it all for me...
Thanks again
My phone was unlocked Germany T-Mobile and and i wanted to remove carrier apps so i flashed an unbranded stock image from sammobile.com with Odin.
It seams that it didn't trip knox flag, it's still 0x0 and device status "official".
I didn't wanted to change CSC because it factory resets the phone and my firmware was not the latest anyways.
My status changes to Custom, when I enable Art, instead of Dalvik.
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wolek76 said:
Allright, ignore my previous post,
I've found the app called PhoneInfo that does it all for me...
Thanks again
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Can you share a link?
Alright. It's been a few hours since I've asked the question.
The phoneinfo app is here
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vnd
But it will not change CSC without root I think.(I tried but it complained about lack of SU something).
So instead I just factory reset my phone and had gotten back to official status.
I really didn't want to play with Odin.
I'm hoping to keep Knox 0x0 as long as possible.
Sorry for the confusion, if any...
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wolek76 said:
Alright. It's been a few hours since I've asked the question.
The phoneinfo app is here
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Free mobile app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vnd
But it will not change CSC without root I think.(I tried but it complained about lack of SU something).
So instead I just factory reset my phone and had gotten back to official status.
I really didn't want to play with Odin.
I'm hoping to keep Knox 0x0 as long as possible.
Sorry for the confusion, if any...
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there is an usefull thread for your concern, you can find it here
they state clearly that, change csc could "factory reset" your phone
if you cannot change csc through s5 secret code, you can use csc changer from play store
good luck
babygau said:
there is an usefull thread for your concern, you can find it here
they state clearly that, change csc could "factory reset" your phone
if you cannot change csc through s5 secret code, you can use csc changer from play store
good luck
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But CSC Changer requires root, and getting root trips Knox, as far as I'm aware.
I'm also looking for a way to change CSC without tripping Knox, as I want to move from a carrier branded device to unbranded (BTU). I think that I can just flash a BTU ROM, but then it won't get updates as the CSCs won't match.
arghness said:
But CSC Changer requires root, and getting root trips Knox, as far as I'm aware.
I'm also looking for a way to change CSC without tripping Knox, as I want to move from a carrier branded device to unbranded (BTU). I think that I can just flash a BTU ROM, but then it won't get updates as the CSCs won't match.
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There are 2 ways:
1. Use secret code from my previous post, you might overlook that part
2. Use Odin to flash your desired CSC
You don't have to root your device to change CSC
babygau said:
There are 2 ways:
1. Use secret code from my previous post, you might overlook that part
2. Use Odin to flash your desired CSC
You don't have to root your device to change CSC
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I don't think the code works on the GS5 (at least not on my branded version).
I'll look in to flashing a CSC via Odin -- I haven't seen how to do that yet, or if it affects Knox. Flashing another ROM with a different CSC should work, I think, but I don't think that changes the CSC, so there won't be any automatic ROM updates.
arghness said:
I don't think the code works on the GS5 (at least not on my branded version).
I'll look in to flashing a CSC via Odin -- I haven't seen how to do that yet, or if it affects Knox. Flashing another ROM with a different CSC should work, I think, but I don't think that changes the CSC, so there won't be any automatic ROM updates.
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I'm stuck in this predicament. I have a tmobile galaxy s5 and was just going to flash a G900F firmware with the tmobile(G900T) modem but found out after I brought the phone that the phone is locked to the tmobile variant firmware. That sucks. And there is no break out of the modem, CSC, and phone yet so no go.
Hi all,
As many for sure I've upgraded my N9005 to the last firmware. Android 5.0.
I have a stock device with stock firmware, so my update was made after I get the samsung information on the screen.
Now I have some problems with this upgrade: bluetooth don't work good with handsfree carkit, even after I turn off carkit I still have the connected image on the phone, bad sound, etc...
Today I've contacted the support team from samsung over chat and after many talk the guy say to me that this upgrade was not available to Portugal!
So I would like to know if there is a way for me to know all about my phone? Where was made? For what market or country? all...
My firmware version is: PDAF1 / PHONED3 / CSCE1 (TPH)
I get this from kies.
Thanks for comments
This app should give you some of that info. I have used before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
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Thank you for the link. With that I could already confirm that the samsung guy was lying. I've confront him with the information from the app and he couldn't say nothing.
Anyone else have an issue with bluetooth where the symbol keeps as connected after is disconnected?
Also I've noticed that S-Planner now won't allow to copy events from one day to another... if you like you have to write them all again or change the date...
Sorry to say I'm not very happy with this firmware upgrade
If it was an upgrade , then there might be some old files causing problems. First thing to try might be a complete wipe (remember to backup your data first).
You could also try rolling back to kit kat using odin.
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already made a full reset. Not solved.
regarding the roll back... tomorrow I'll go to samsung repair service and see what they say. Still at warranty.
Ah, yeah wouldn't advise odin then as will void warranty.
Good luck.
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Kev23 said:
Ah, yeah wouldn't advise odin then as will void warranty.
Good luck.
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Flashing a stock ROM through Odin will not void the warranty.
Actually it voids warranty as far as I know. I mean the KNOX counter could be 0x1 after flashing anything through Odin, but again, I am not certain about that at all.
About the BT problems, well I have read from a ROM compiler here, that OF3 is the ROM which's stock kernel comes with BT fix (I use OF3, have been using it over a month now, no audio listening or talking in car, but my super old GV-435 is connected all time, and never had a disconnection issue!). Now I don't know that, but I have read it anyway. So you can try the OF3 ROM, that'd be my suggestion that's all. Before flashing the ROM do wipe the phone completely though, take backup beforehand if you need.
Flashing a stock ROM from sammobile.com should not trip knox as the software is official software that has been signed by Samsung.
Flashing software that has not been signed by Samsung will trip Knox, depending on the ROM version on the phone. I have a sm-n900w8 and I could flash TWRP, root, etc. without tripping Knox. I used an OTA update to get to Lollipop DOC4 and Knox was still fine. I then flashed DOH1 from sammobile using Odin and Knox was still 0x0. I then flashed TWRP and Knox is now 0x1.