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S4 root that does not trip flash counter?

Just wondering if anyone has figured out how to root the S4 without tripping the flash counter? I know that thier is trianlge away but that still doesnt let you use the allshare cast dongle.

Wrong section. And non that I know of.
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Are you sure. Did you click the box to disable root for a few minutes on boot in triangle away, so it has Official Device Status?
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GiantJay said:
Are you sure. Did you click the box to disable root for a few minutes on boot in triangle away, so it has Official Device Status?
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havent tried it on my 4 yet ....i just know that it didnt work on my 3 when i treid it. I just want a root that does not install a custom recovery, lets me install wifi tether, lets me use the allshare cast dongle, and take ota updates using something like voodoo.....i had this setup on my S3 and loved it.....guess i just have to give it time ....unless i have missed something on the forums

skullygbear said:
havent tried it on my 4 yet ....i just know that it didnt work on my 3 when i treid it. I just want a root that does not install a custom recovery, lets me install wifi tether, lets me use the allshare cast dongle, and take ota updates using something like voodoo.....i had this setup on my S3 and loved it.....guess i just have to give it time ....unless i have missed something on the forums
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Have you seen this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827

Note 3 screen freeze

I have a question, I am experiencing random freeze where my screen will just free, will not respond to my touches, I was on mi7 rooted it using Rdlv, then used the mobile odin method to upgrade to upgrade it to mj7 in the hope that, these freezes goes away. Afraid that the issues is still there. I think I might have to send it to the service centre. So my question is unroot the decide using sypersu method, will I be able to re root and if yes how. Secondly if they they change the montherboard, nd put straight mj7 on it, will I be abl do of root it again
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You can still root even if they put MJ7 on it but you may lose knox if they put the new bootloader on it.
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Factory reset it and don't install / restore any apps.
Minoriting how it behave.

swagatsourav said:
I have a question, I am experiencing random freeze where my screen will just free, will not respond to my touches, I was on mi7 rooted it using Rdlv, then used the mobile odin method to upgrade to upgrade it to mj7 in the hope that, these freezes goes away. Afraid that the issues is still there. I think I might have to send it to the service centre. So my question is unroot the decide using sypersu method, will I be able to re root and if yes how. Secondly if they they change the montherboard, nd put straight mj7 on it, will I be abl do of root it again
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So I have experienced some issues. When I first got the phone it was stuttery and having issues with Google Music and freezing up. Next Day I factory reset it (twice in a row cuz I'm paranoid) and been a dream since. However, just last night it has an issue too. I was messing with some PSP ROM and trying to load it from sdcard. Then I started reading that A) there may be issues with the 64GB SanDisk SDcards AND/OR B)Note 3 may have some issues with indexing sdcards in general.
So if you are using an sdcard of any size, try taking it out or reformatting (after backing up ofcourse) and see if that helps. BUT for sure a lot of problems are cleared up with a factory reset. Mine is at about 95% now except for that weird issue last night.

I do not use any sd card at present
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alom5 said:
You can still root even if they put MJ7 on it but you may lose knox if they put the new bootloader on it.
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I m on mj7 already, but my knox is intact. Courtesy mobile odin pro. Upgrade from mi7 to mj7
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One thing i have noticed is the issue happens when there is poor signal or I have noticed that when screen would stop responding, free ram is low
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swagatsourav said:
I m on mj7 already, but my knox is intact. Courtesy mobile odin pro. Upgrade from mi7 to mj7
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What's your modem?
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alom5 said:
What's your modem?
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Modem is DMJ7, but my boot loader is still MI7

I have today seen that the most probable issue with the freeze is my RAM is getting filled up, i used LMT pie control and from that i can see, that my ram used is always 2109MB, leaving only 333MB. I have now frozen, Flipboard, after which after cleaning the RAM, the usage is now 1928, even thought the stock ram status says only 0.99GB used. Can some please help me

Android Rooting on AT&T SM-N900A new OTA update

Okay so I am brand new to the Android OS. I have been an iPhone user for about 5 years and jailbreaking was such a simple task and I fully understood how that worked. I'm glad I made the switch to android because it does everything a jailbroken iPhone does. I just found out about this rooting stuff. How does it work and how can I do it with Note 3 on AT&T SM-N900A? I downloaded some new OTA update but I don't know what it means.
I am an Android noob

kyco16 said:
Okay so I am brand new to the Android OS. I have been an iPhone user for about 5 years and jailbreaking was such a simple task and I fully understood how that worked. I'm glad I made the switch to android because it does everything a jailbroken iPhone does. I just found out about this rooting stuff. How does it work and how can I do it with Note 3 on AT&T SM-N900A? I downloaded some new OTA update but I don't know what it means.
I am an Android noob
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Kingo Root is the only current method to root MJ5, its really simple and fast if you chose to do so. Its just a program on you pC that you run and it will give you root and reboot your phone and your done.

the2rrell said:
Kingo Root is the only current method to root MJ5, its really simple and fast if you chose to do so. Its just a program on you pC that you run and it will give you root and reboot your phone and your done.
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Are you kidding? Is it really that easy? I've been reading about all this Root De La Vega thing. Your way seems to be a lot easier. Why doesn't everyone use this Kingo Root program?

kyco16 said:
Are you kidding? Is it really that easy? I've been reading about all this Root De La Vega thing. Your way seems to be a lot easier. Why doesn't everyone use this Kingo Root program?
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RdlV is for versions prior to your MJ5. Don't even think about using it!
Kingo Root works well but is suspected to be malware (search for details) and all links to it have been banned from xda until kingo devs prove it is safe. That doesn't seem to be happening very quickly.
kraz
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krazman325 said:
RdlV is for versions prior to your MJ5. Don't even think about using it!
Kingo Root works well but is suspected to be malware (search for details) and all links to it have been banned from xda until kingo devs prove it is safe. That doesn't seem to be happening very quickly.
kraz
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I too just upgraded from my note 2 to the 3 last night.. i have MI9 on mine and i was sble to do the Rdlv method and mine is rooted and running ok. Is there a problem with doing this? I am going to freeze the updater so that no OTA runs and i dont lose root.. any issues?

RdlV was created for MI1 and MI9 only. You're okay! kraz
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Zugshad said:
I too just upgraded from my note 2 to the 3 last night.. i have MI9 on mine and i was sble to do the Rdlv method and mine is rooted and running ok. Is there a problem with doing this? I am going to freeze the updater so that no OTA runs and i dont lose root.. any issues?
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Just so you know, you can take the ota and keep root as long as you follow the proper steps, I uploaded to mj5 and kept root, no issues.
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clothednblack1 said:
Just so you know, you can take the ota and keep root as long as you follow the proper steps, I uploaded to mj5 and kept root, no issues.
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Thanks.. i found the ATT update thread in here and followed the steps .. i was rooted with mi9 and upgraded to SU pro and then did the survival mode with disabling SU and then did the update. it updated to MJ5 and then i turned off survival mode and re-enabeled SU and i am still rooted and my apps so far are working fine...
so,, for the OP.. just back out of this and go into the ATT update thread and folllow the instructions there (i basically posted it above, but a cleaner "how to" is in there)
Zug

I am on MJ5, can I still use the 'Root De La Vega' method or is the only option this Kingo Root?

ZishanMalik said:
I am on MJ5, can I still use the 'Root De La Vega' method or is the only option this Kingo Root?
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You will brick your device if you use RDLV.
As far as I know, Kingo will work. However, due to it sending our IMEI number to China, I don't wanna do it yet.

econan1214 said:
You will brick your device if you use RDLV.
As far as I know, Kingo will work. However, due to it sending our IMEI number to China, I don't wanna do it yet.
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They said the newest Kingo update removed those calls back home and that they won't be doing that anymore. I don't know anything about them sending IMEI info to China, but supposedly the connections to their servers in China was to download the updates as the program rooted the phone.

I was skeptical about kingo root but after doing some research I went ahead and did it and everything seems to be fine. Yes, it takes your imei but no one really knows what they do with it if anything. All rooting is, is finding exploits and utilizing them to gain root access. In all actuality, you never truly know the intentions of any new developers that come on the scene.
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jtmj06 said:
I was skeptical about kingo root but after doing some research I went ahead and did it and everything seems to be fine. Yes, it takes your imei but no one really knows what they do with it if anything. All rooting is, is finding exploits and utilizing them to gain root access. In all actuality, you never truly know the intentions of any new developers that come on the scene.
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Agree 100% its simple and i doubt they take the IMEI .... It works 100%

I'm MJ5. If I use Kingo is there anything I need to turn off (OTA/Security updates)?

MI9 to MJ5 while rooted
Hi Zug
I tried the method with survival mode and disabling superuser and the official mode in Wanam to try to go from MI9 to MJ5 ......everything is fine until it reboots but always fails at 27% point of installation. ... trotted it 7 or so times. .... Same result. After the fail it reboots and I get the message "update interrupted".
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ZishanMalik said:
I am on MJ5, can I still use the 'Root De La Vega' method or is the only option this Kingo Root?
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You will brick your device if you use RDLV.
As far as I know, Kingo will work. However, due to it sending our IMEI number to China, I don't wanna do it yet.

wayne8821212 said:
Hi Zug
I tried the method with survival mode and disabling superuser and the official mode in Wanam to try to go from MI9 to MJ5 ......everything is fine until it reboots but always fails at 27% point of installation. ... trotted it 7 or so times. .... Same result. After the fail it reboots and I get the message "update interrupted".
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I remember reading about users having the same issue with the instalation stalling at the same percentage every time. It has something to do with you changing something (can be a number of things) in the system folder. Think about it, did you change the boot animation? There is a thread talking about it, I'll see if I can't find it for ya.

Cant root MJ5 with kingroot or vroot?

hoangps said:
Cant root MJ5 with kingroot or vroot?
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I rooted with kingo on mj5 with no issue.
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Updating to from MI9 to MJ5 problems
DustinKimble said:
I remember reading about users having the same issue with the instalation stalling at the same percentage every time. It has something to do with you changing something (can be a number of things) in the system folder. Think about it, did you change the boot animation? There is a thread talking about it, I'll see if I can't find it for ya.
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Thanks Dustin!
I finally solved 2 problems (the installation problem and the sudden failure of Kies3 to see my phone) by going to recovery, doing a wipe data and cache and factory reset. I then re-rooted using the De La Vega method, disabled root and checked "survival mode in SuperSU Pro and then accepted the update to MJ5. This time it made it past the 27% installation point and completed. The I re-enabled root in SuperSU Pro launched titanium backup and batch restored apps and all is well. So I am finally rooted and on MJ5 without having to use Kingo. Thanks for your help.

Understanding knox.

I need to check some facts
When upgraded to 4.3 I lost root and my is back to stock? True or false
Would it be safe to post a pic of my knox screen?
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cinnamngrl said:
I need to check some facts
When upgraded to 4.3 I lost root and my is back to stock? True or false
Would it be safe to post a pic of my knox screen?
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If you took the OTA update to 4.3, then yes you are on the Knox bootloader. AND you are stock unrooted (unless you've since rooted).
Yes it's safe to post a pic of you system config; there is nothing anyone can take from that information that is harmful to you.

Is this a clean knox? Or is it already tripped.
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cinnamngrl said:
Is this a clean knox? Or is it already tripped.
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Clean Knox
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To get Root, you can use Kingo root without tripping Knox.

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To get Root, you can use Kingo root without tripping Knox.
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Isn't it the custom recovery that ends up tripping the Knox anyways?
I'm a Verizon guy and also have a sprint s4 that I threw Philz on. So I'm not sure if you can do that without tripping Knox, that's the impression I got though.
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Mistertac said:
Isn't it the custom recovery that ends up tripping the Knox anyways?
I'm a Verizon guy and also have a sprint s4 that I threw Philz on. So I'm not sure if you can do that without tripping Knox, that's the impression I got though.
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Yes, custom recovery will trip Knox.

1. My phone was previously rooted,
2. Got 4.3 update
3. Now has a clean knox
My questions are
A. can I root my phone again?
B. Will later android updates give me another clean knox?
C. Are any procedures like triangle away that will keep knox clean?
D. Is warranty the only reason I want a clean knox?
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cinnamngrl said:
1. My phone was previously rooted,
2. Got 4.3 update
3. Now has a clean knox
My questions are
A. can I root my phone again?
B. Will later android updates give me another clean knox?
C. Are any procedures like triangle away that will keep knox clean?
D. Is warranty the only reason I want a clean knox?
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A. Yes you can, if you don't want the Knox warranty flag use Safe Root. If you google safe root for S4 you should find the link. The Knox flag is actually tripped when you install a custom recovery. This means if you use cf autoroot, twrp, philz, or any other root or recovery the Knox flag will be tripped. If you want to install a custom rom or mod, then you will trip the Knox flag since those require a custom recovery. If you just want to root and remove bloat, backup with TiBu, install xposed framework modules, or even unlock the hotspot then you can do those without a custom recovery and keep your Knox warranty flag in place.
B. No, once you have tripped the Knox warranty flag, so far the flag is not reset by installing updates or the full stock tar file of a newer version.
C. Not at his time.
D. Yes, at this time the only thing the Knox warranty flag does is show Samsung that your device has been tampered with at one time. Sprint and Assurian still honor the TEP insurance, but if your phone has to be sent to Samsung for repair or warranty that is where you will have problems.
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cruise350 said:
D. Yes, at this time the only thing the Knox warranty flag does is show Samsung that your device has been tampered with at one time. Sprint and Assurian still honor the TEP insurance, but if your phone has to be sent to Samsung for repair or warranty that is where you will have problems.
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Not sure if this is true or not, but wouldn't triggering Knox prevent you from activating the device on a corporate network?

dimm0k said:
Not sure if this is true or not, but wouldn't triggering Knox prevent you from activating the device on a corporate network?
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Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.

leaderbuilder said:
Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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Your voice to text is making some confusing word choice s
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cinnamngrl said:
Your voice to text is making some confusing word choice s
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Only thing I think is really wrong is "Is" instead of "His" (IMHO)... but then again, I'm an IT guy...
That, and I need to put my S4 in my sig! :silly:

leaderbuilder said:
Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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what I need is a hotspot. not too often, but itsa drag not to have it.

cinnamngrl said:
what I need is a hotspot. not too often, but itsa drag not to have it.
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Hot spot is easy, run the safe root file from your pc to root your phone. Then download the odexed MK2 hot spot mod in post 337 in the hot spot mod thread. Use 7zip or similar app to extract the services.jar and services.odex file to your sdcard. Then use root explorer to copy them to the system/framework directory. It is a good idea to backup the original files. After you copy the new files you will need to change the permissions to rw-r-r. After this is done reboot and enjoy free hot spot. This will not trip knox since you don't have to install a custom recovery.
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cruise350 said:
Hot spot is easy, run the safe root file from your pc to root your phone. Then download the odexed MK2 hot spot mod in post 337 in the hot spot mod thread. Use 7zip or similar app to extract the services.jar and services.odex file to your sdcard. Then use root explorer to copy them to the system/framework directory. It is a good idea to backup the original files. After you copy the new files you will need to change the permissions to rw-r-r. After this is done reboot and enjoy free hot spot. This will not trip knox since you don't have to install a custom recovery.
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Am i missing some obvious reason that you described the location instead of including a link? BYTW yes, i tried to find it. And thank you

cinnamngrl said:
Am i missing some obvious reason that you described the location instead of including a link? BYTW yes, i tried to find it. And thank you
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Sorry, but I was responding from my phone and couldn't post links but here you go:
Find the correct MK2 odexed hot spot mod in post #337 of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950&page=34
Then you can follow crawj's procedures here to manually install the update without a custom recovery: https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx...E!131&app=Word&wdo=2&authkey=!AJdLcpl9ak9eZnw
Good Luck

is there a way to remove KNOX completely without tripping the 0x1 flag? has there been developments in this area? seems like everyone's focused on trying to reverse the flag once it's set, but what about the removal of KNOX so that it never sets that flag?

dimm0k said:
is there a way to remove KNOX completely without tripping the 0x1 flag? has there been developments in this area? seems like everyone's focused on trying to reverse the flag once it's set, but what about the removal of KNOX so that it never sets that flag?
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The problem occurs within the bootloader of the MJA or newer firmware. With that version of the software, Samsung has prevented the downgrading of the bootloader so there is no way to get rid if that feature. You can go through the rom and remove or disable the Knox files, which do nothing for the phone except free up some space. Knox's purpose is to allow Samsung to create a secure environment for corporate and government companies that need to protect their info and intellectual properties. The average user will never need Knox, so it's safe to remove. When Samsung fully implemented Knox with 4.3 they integrated it into the bootloader. Now, all of us assume the Knox warranty flag voids your Samsung warranty, which it probably does, but I believe its true purpose is to void the Knox integrity check so the Knox secure containers know the phone has been tampered with and can't guarantee data security.
Data security is big business and Samsung wants a piece of that pie.
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computer programs and knox
so once knox is tripped to 0x1 does that prevent your phone being read by other programs? only reason i ask is because i have tripped knox and some of my data on my phone has been erased (notes, pics, sms, contacts) and the programs i have wont even acknowledge my phone.

[Q] AVG Rooted Anti-theft, does it trip Knox?

Hi,
I'm trying to find out if I can install the AVG Anti-theft (free, rooted) app without tripping knox. It wants to either do a direct write or have me flash a update.zip in case I don't have NAND access (S-OFF). Do I? Anyone tried this? I like AVG's Anti-theft and it's free. Just wondering if I'll screw up my device flashing it. I haven't found anything via google. TIA.

This is a good question actually. I just rooted my Note 3 using Knox and USB 3.0 last night for the first time. I had the N3 since day 1 but had no PC to root it. Finally was able to pick up my new PC so I went ahead and rooted just being excited I was able to. But now that u mention it, before rooting with Knox I was using the paid version of Lookout mobile security and I thought when I rooted it would have wiped my phone completely but I still had all my apps. Needless to say Lookout was still installed and is still working after root without issue so far. Wether or not I tripped Knox idk? I did get the pop up asking me if I wanted to disable Knox after rooting which I said yes to, but at the time I wasn't even thinking about the fact I had Lookout installed. Like I said no issues so far, but if I tripped the counter or not I do not know? I'm not sure how u check even?
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You can check by booting into download mode with vol down + home + power i believe. It will say know 0x0 or 0x1. Interesting that you were able to install Lookout. Which method did you choose? was their an option? I'm using AVG, which lets you do writes to protected areas which is why I made this thread...

shutin said:
You can check by booting into download mode with vol down + home + power i believe. It will say know 0x0 or 0x1. Interesting that you were able to install Lookout. Which method did you choose? was their an option? I'm using AVG, which lets you do writes to protected areas which is why I made this thread...
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I honestly don't remember what permissions or method I chose with Lookout on my N3. like I said I installed the premium version before rooting and it just ended up staying on the phone. Only reason I was even using Lookout was because I recently picked up the Z1s on my T-Mobile line and it came with the premium service of Lookout for free so I figured what the hell and installed it on my Verizon N3 as well. I'm sure whatever method I chose was just the method Lookout suggests by default though. I'll have to try n check n see if I tripped it or not and I'll let ya know.
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Ibkevin said:
I honestly don't remember what permissions or method I chose with Lookout on my N3. like I said I installed the premium version before rooting and it just ended up staying on the phone. Only reason I was even using Lookout was because I recently picked up the Z1s on my T-Mobile line and it came with the premium service of Lookout for free so I figured what the hell and installed it on my Verizon N3 as well. I'm sure whatever method I chose was just the method Lookout suggests by default though. I'll have to try n check n see if I tripped it or not and I'll let ya know.
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cool man, let us know the results. of course, you might have tripped know some other way but im very curious to find out your status. thanks for your help.