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[Q] About to make the purcase of a Razr M Dev. version.

Hi folks,
I'm looking to buy one of the Razr M Dev version. Before I spend the cash I wanted to confirm a few things w/ folks who already have either version of the phone.
Any known issues with using these guys to tether?
How well does the radio work over seas?
Sim card size?
Will it take a 64 GB card?
Any other gochas that folks can think of?
Best and thanks!
Feend

This phone is absolutely same as non-dev. Except you can unlock it's bootloader on motorola website.
Same specs, same SIM size, same radio etc., 64Gb SD is supported - you can find thread with confirmation here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937437

Osmatic said:
This phone is absolutely the same as non-dev. Except you can unlock it's bootloader on motorola website.
Same specs, same SIM size, same radio etc., 64Gb SD is supported - you can find thread with confirmation here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937437
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Thanks for that,
Do you think its worth the 170$ to get that dev version or are people having good luck using the safe strap program ?
Best,
Feend

feendster said:
Thanks for that,
Do you think its worth the 170$ to get that dev version or are people having good luck using the safe strap program ?
Best,
Feend
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The Dev edition will eliminate the need to partition what little internal storage there is but that seems to be the only real advantage.
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brycekerr said:
The Dev edition will eliminate the need to partition what little internal storage there is but that seems to be the only real advantage.
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Sounds like I should just get the regular one then. Seems to be that all of the roms are designed to use safe strap.
Best,
Feend

brycekerr said:
The Dev edition will eliminate the need to partition what little internal storage there is but that seems to be the only real advantage.
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Sounds like I should just get the regular one then. Seems to be that all of the roms are designed to use safe strap.
Best,
Feend

Last time I checked, the dev and the retail were the exact same price unsubsidized ($549). In that case, unless you could get it under contract for $99 (or even $50), it made no sense at all *not* to buy the dev edition. Where are those $170 you talk about? Maybe there is a discount for the retail version somewhere?
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aslomagic said:
Last time I checked, the dev and the retail were the exact same price unsubsidized ($549). In that case, unless you could get it under contract for $99 (or even $50), it made no sense at all *not* to buy the dev edition. Where are those $170 you talk about? Maybe there is a discount for the retail version somewhere?
Sent from my XT907
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I was lurking about E-bay. There are a few listed for less than retail. Also noticed an "i" version w/ Intel processor but GSM Arena didn't say any thing flattering about it. I'm in AU and they run 600AU$ but are unlockable via the same Dev site. So I save 50$ by ordering the Dev one via the states.
I'm a bit put off by the lack of Development on these awesome handset though. Was starting to entertain other manufacturers because of it.
Noticed that the RAZR M XT905 is the Aussi version and does not have the version branding and locked boot loader, might have to pony up for this one 600 AUD...
Cheers,
Feend

feendster said:
I was lurking about E-bay. There are a few listed for less than retail. Also noticed an "i" version w/ Intel processor but GSM Arena didn't say any thing flattering about it. I'm in AU and they run 600AU$ but are unlockable via the same Dev site. So I save 50$ by ordering the Dev one via the states.
I'm a bit put off by the lack of Development on these awesome handset though. Was starting to entertain other manufacturers because of it.
Noticed that the RAZR M XT905 is the Aussi version and does not have the version branding and locked boot loader, might have to pony up for this one 600 AUD...
Cheers,
Feend
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If you go American no Aussie 4g for you
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wintermute000 said:
If you go American no Aussie 4g for you
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Right, I was thinking that. I could flash an Aussi radio on it but the way it looks now I'm going to get the XT905 not the USA model.
Or just continue using my old desire w/ CM7 on it. Still runs great minus the flash.

Moto X Now Available on VZW

She's finally up!
Moto X on Verizon
$599 off contract
Mine will be at work for me on Friday morning.

Yep, I chose Friday morning shipping.
I now will have the Maxx and X. Need to make some quick decisions as this is getting expensive.

Locked bootloader. Wait for the Developer Edition!

I ordered mine with Friday shipping, ordered it in white.
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No way possible i could buy this phone with 11gb of storage..lol...I will wait for the 32gb or the dev edition

mattlgroff said:
Locked bootloader. Wait for the Developer Edition!
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I'd like to do that but I don't really have the funds . I'm torn between getting it sooner or waiting for motomaker customization...

Wonder if the 30% coupon people are using to get it on contract for 139 would work if buying it outright.

Semantics said:
Wonder if the 30% coupon people are using to get it on contract for 139 would work if buying it outright.
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No. It won't work.

bp_ said:
No. It won't work.
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and you know this how?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...on-contract-or-139-99-with-30-off-promo-code/

Moto X 3rd Generation
Moto X 3rd Generation Device Images Leaked Online, it seems it is going to have Front Led Flash, Dual Speakers, Water Resistant Device...
http://www.gaurdigi.com/moto-x-3rd-gen-2015-leaked/

[Q] Verizon Delevoper Edition.

All,
Last year samsung released their developer VZW N2 in 6-8 weeks.
Any info on the N3 dev edition ( 16 or 32 GB - I assume it will be black) ?
Any possible issues with availability of the device ( the S4 was out of stock for "months").
I see that there is not much hope that devs can crack this device after release -last year N2 was jailbroken in less than 14 days after release
Update:
Black ,32GB ,storage, 3200mah
Reps are saying first part of nov.
Lets see which developers will support this device
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW-specs

VZW is only offering the 32 GB version, I really argued with them about it and got transferred to their marketing department that makes such decisions, had to leave a message and nobody called me back of course. I would assume a Dev version would be 32 or 64 but there's no way you'd see a 16GB version. Maybe the 64gb version is not available because (I read this somewhere on XDA) only the 32gb version supports LTE. The non - LTE chip requires more memory to give the same performance as the 32gb LTE version.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Current owner of: Verizon 32GB Samsung Galaxy S III (SCH-1535). Previous owner/hacker of: O2 XDA, O2 XDA II, Cingular HTC 8525, AT&T HTC Tilt, T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile HTC HD2, Verizon Motorola Droid X, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus

KruseLudsMobile said:
VZW is only offering the 32 GB version, I really argued with them about it and got transferred to their marketing department that makes such decisions, had to leave a message and nobody called me back of course. I would assume a Dev version would be 32 or 64 but there's no way you'd see a 16GB version. Maybe the 64gb version is not available because (I read this somewhere on XDA) only the 32gb version supports LTE. The non - LTE chip requires more memory to give the same performance as the 32gb LTE version.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Current owner of: Verizon 32GB Samsung Galaxy S III (SCH-1535). Previous owner/hacker of: O2 XDA, O2 XDA II, Cingular HTC 8525, AT&T HTC Tilt, T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile HTC HD2, Verizon Motorola Droid X, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus
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Aha,
thanks.
We will call u back.sure.
I am assuming that that dev edition will be avail soon - a couple of weeks after the mainstream edition. 64 would be nice, but oh well..
If dev cannot crack this open I will have to wait for the dev edition. Safe strap works on S4 but if prefer the real unlock.
N2 was (is a beast) as far as development goes.
any heads up for the timeframe of release?
thanks
abe

Verizon's GN2 Developer Edition went up mid December last year so who knows it could come sooner. But don't expect a 64GB version we won't get it.

RaptorMD said:
Verizon's GN2 Developer Edition went up mid December last year so who knows it could come sooner. But don't expect a 64GB version we won't get it.
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So a couple of weeks of extra wait. I want to wait to see if the reg edition gets jbed then get it if not get a dev ed.
Still hugging that unlimited. For now.
Thanks

If you buy a Verizon Developer Edition through Samsung, can you still get the Asurion insurance through Verizon?

In the past when I changed phones on my account I simply updated the info with Verizon so they could or should know what I was covering/insuring with them. So long as the phone is functioning at the time you add it you "should" not have any issues.

Do we know for sure vz will be getting a developer edition? I haven't heard a thing about it.

Ive read rumors on interwebs saying both will and wont get dev edition. I withdrew my preorder to wait and see if we can get it unlocked. I have faith in adam outler. He seems good at sticking it to verizon. If dev edition comes out first I'll go that way. I've experienced safe strap and theres nice features and drawbacks to it. Unlocked is definitely worth the wait
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FrostyOrDie said:
Ive read rumors on interwebs saying both will and wont get dev edition. I withdrew my preorder to wait and see if we can get it unlocked. I have faith in adam outler. He seems good at sticking it to verizon. If dev edition comes out first I'll go that way. I've experienced safe strap and theres nice features and drawbacks to it. Unlocked is definitely worth the wait
beamed from transporter room 3
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He is amazing...BUT...he hasn't unlocked the s4. I don't think we will see an unlock anytime soon. I would be satisfied with safestrap...but I'm not sure it could be done with Knox.

FrostyOrDie said:
. I have faith in adam outler. He seems good at sticking it to verizon. If dev edition comes out first I'll go that way. I've experienced safe strap and theres nice features and drawbacks to it. Unlocked is definitely worth the wait
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Adam stated in a post recently that he is done with Samsung products and is advising everyone to go with a different brand phone.
I was all set to pre-order an N3 and sell my mint N2, but after realizing all the downsides of a phone locked up that tight I decided to stick with the N2 for now.

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jmorton10 said:
Adam stated in a post recently that he is done with Samsung products and is advising everyone to go with a different brand phone.
I was all set to pre-order an N3 and sell my mint N2, but after realizing all the downsides of a phone locked up that tight I decided to stick with the N2 for now.
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Hi John,
did Adam mentioned why not get Samsung? N3 has the best oled screen on the market. Any other phablet with "better" custom rom support?
Thanks
Abe

abe_cedar said:
Hi John,
did Adam mentioned why not get Samsung? N3 has the best oled screen on the market. Any other phablet with "better" custom rom support?
Thanks
Abe
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Probably because of knox.

suzook said:
Probably because of knox.
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ugh
forgot about it, but ur prob right
That is why I want the dev edition.
Any new rumors about the release date ( dev of course), gang?
thanks
abe

abe_cedar said:
ugh
forgot about it, but ur prob right
That is why I want the dev edition.
Any new rumors about the release date ( dev of course), gang?
thanks
abe
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I don't think there will be a Dev edition. Unfortunate.... I think I'm gonna give the g2 a try..a Lil smaller than I want....but its not locked down.

My plan is to buy the retail version then sell it if the Dev drops or return it if there is an announcement within two weeks.
For those with more Patience it might just be worth the wait!
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I'm with ya on that I'm just gonna buy the Note 3 and let the devs work their magic. I'm sure they'll be able unlock it or at least have a work around like kexec. But if all fails I'll just sell mine to a stock user and go for the developer edition.
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Adam is done with samsung devices...especially since they went back to qualcom processors. If the N3 had a Exynos processor Relekdev might have a chance. However Qualcom processors utilize qfuses, which once blown, make unlocking a encrypted bootloader about 99% impossible.
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Adam stated in a post recently that he is done with Samsung products and is advising everyone to go with a different brand phone.
I was all set to pre-order an N3 and sell my mint N2, but after realizing all the downsides of a phone locked up that tight I decided to stick with the N2 for now.
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Same here...the N2 is still holding its own very well. I am going to hold off and see if a dev edition shows up.

suzook said:
I don't think there will be a Dev edition. Unfortunate.... I think I'm gonna give the g2 a try..a Lil smaller than I want....but its not locked down.
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yes it is. the difference is that it has access (currently) to loki, a tool that will allow a development community to grow, however it can and will be patched.

[ Happy/Sad ] 'Moto G' is the new Fascinate/Galaxy S

Man I'll have to say I'm kind of both happy & sad...
I appears that the Motorola 'Moto G' 'Falcon' is the new Fascinate/Galaxy S...
[info rant mode]
I mean gosh, just like our beloved phone, they have all the variants
cdma - for Verizon, Sprint, Boost
gsm - AT&T, T-Mobile, International
LTE - US or International versions
Prepaid mvno's ... and more
8GB OR 16GB, and the lte versions have removable micro sd
1GB Memory
1.2 GHZ quad-core snapdragon 400 processor
Adreno 305 GPU
2070 mAh battery
5mp rear camera w/flash
1.3mp front camera
4.5 in display
So, it's
physically same size as the fascinate, but more screen real estate, better pixels, faster everything, barely any heavier, development galore, and that price!!!
the cdma Boost Mobile model (3g only) which is only 8 gb and no micro sd expansion slot can be had for $75 BRAND NEW (street pricing), no contract, & shipped to your door!
Did i mention it's readily and easily rooted and flashed over for use on pageplus!
I'm really just floored!!!
I got this moto g as an entry phone for my wife's mom and her 1st smart phone,,, but after seeing how nice it is and how great & smooth and easy to work with no major hoops to jump through,
I'm seriously considering jumping ship quickly...
Just have to figure out if i can handle living with only 8gb storage on a phone...
which is only 6mb usable after the os is all said and done...
... to be continued...
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hhp_211 said:
Man I'll have to say I'm kind of both happy & sad...
I appears that the Motorola 'Moto G' 'Falcon' is the new Fascinate/Galaxy S...
[info rant mode]
I mean gosh, just like our beloved phone, they have all the variants
cdma - for Verizon, Sprint, Boost
gsm - AT&T, T-Mobile, International
LTE - US or International versions
Prepaid mvno's ... and more
8GB OR 16GB, and the lte versions have removable micro sd
1GB Memory
1.2 GHZ quad-core snapdragon 400 processor
Adreno 305 GPU
2070 mAh battery
5mp rear camera w/flash
1.3mp front camera
4.5 in display
So, it's
physically same size as the fascinate, but more screen real estate, better pixels, faster everything, barely any heavier, development galore, and that price!!!
the cdma boost model (3g only) which is only 8 gb and no micro sd expansion slot can be had for $75 BRAND NEW, no contract, & shipped to your door!
Did i mention it's readily and easily rooted and flashed over for use on pageplus!
I'm really just floored!!!
I got this moto g as an entry phone for my wife's mom and her 1st smart phone,,, but after seeing how nice it is and how great & smooth and easy to work with no major hoops to jump through,
I'm seriously considering jumping ship quickly...
Just have to figure out if i can handle living with only 8gb on a phone...
... to be continued...
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and the g has a front facing camera

the moto g is a pretty good phone tho, even today. sure its specs arent fantastic, it would still run kitkat and most games adequately.
my s4 is a beast tho

skepticmisfit said:
the moto g is a pretty good phone tho, even today. sure its specs arent fantastic, it would still run kitkat and most games adequately.
my s4 is a beast tho
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S4 of course!!
Mostly saying for $75 it's a heck of a pageplus phone deal!!

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S4 of course!!
Mostly saying for $75 it's a heck of a pageplus phone deal!!
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wait up.. the s4 is $75 on pageplus? or the moto g?

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wait up.. the s4 is $75 on pageplus? or the moto g?
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Moto G brother!

skepticmisfit said:
the moto g is a pretty good phone tho, even today. sure its specs arent fantastic, it would still run kitkat and most games adequately.
my s4 is a beast tho
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And i think specs are very decent to run as a pageplus phone!
With the exception of measly 8gb storage that is...

hhp_211 said:
And i think specs are very decent to run as a pageplus phone!
With the exception of measly 8gb storage that is...
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whats stopping you from getting the 16gb moto g?

skepticmisfit said:
whats stopping you from getting the 16gb moto g?
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well... The Boost version (XT1031) can be unlocked by way of a code provide by Motorola.
Motorola will not provide a unlock code for the Verizon version (XT1028).
The Republic Wireless (CDMA) and AIO (GSM) versions are also "not eligible" for the bootloader unlock codes from Motorola.
the Republic wireless is the only one I'm aware of that is a 16gb model cdma version

I jumped from the Fascinate to the Moto G quite a while ago, but I came back to the fascinate forums because my fassy is used in my car as a media player. That being said, the Moto G is fantastic! The way I get around the small storage space (I have the Boost Mobile flashed to Page Plus) is to use a usb drive. This is the one I use. Some users have reported issues with USB OTG with the newest CM11, as well as a few other versions, but I've not had a problem. In fact, I'm running stock with Xposed + Gravitybox. First time I've ever run a phone on stock and been satisfied.

lightningdude said:
I jumped from the Fascinate to the Moto G quite a while ago, but I came back to the fascinate forums because my fassy is used in my car as a media player. That being said, the Moto G is fantastic! The way I get around the small storage space (I have the Boost Mobile flashed to Page Plus) is to use a usb drive. This is the one I use. Some users have reported issues with USB OTG with the newest CM11, as well as a few other versions, but I've not had a problem. In fact, I'm running stock with Xposed + Gravitybox. First time I've ever run a phone on stock and been satisfied.
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Dude!
I saw you on the moto g page, thanks for the report!
Thanks again, i was just wondering and reading about using a otg cable and a flash drive (usb drive).
I didn't know they made a drive with the micro usb!
That's great!
and the pricing is right in line with normal usb storage
$8 - 16 gb
$16 - 32 gb
That may just very well seal the deal for me
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hhp_211 said:
Dude!
I saw you on the moto g page, thanks for the report!
Thanks again, i was just wondering and reading about using a otg cable and a flash drive (usb drive).
I didn't know they made a drive with the micro usb!
That's great!
and the pricing is right in line with normal usb storage
$8 - 16 gb
$16 - 32 gb
That may just very well seal the deal for me
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Glad I could help. I will warn, though, the Verizon Moto G can't have its bootloader unlocked, nor can it be used on anything but Verizon for at least 6 months. If you intend to use it like that, by all means, go for it. However, if you plan on using it on Page Plus, get a Boost Mobile Moto G. Boost Mobile is the only "branded" Moto G that can have its bootloader unlocked, and since it has the same radios as Verizon, it works if you flash it (which is actually pretty easy).

im starting to wonder why almost none of the carriers are letting people unlock the bootloaders on their moto g devices (with the exception of boost..)
i guess its the same reason, for example, the s4 isnt bootloader unlockable if you had it upgraded past the original bootloader (aka MDK). its all about money.

skepticmisfit said:
im starting to wonder why almost none of the carriers are letting people unlock the bootloaders on their moto g devices (with the exception of boost..)
i guess its the same reason, for example, the s4 isnt bootloader unlockable if you had it upgraded past the original bootloader (aka MDK). its all about money.
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Yup, more proof of their deceptive story lines. Trying to make us believe that with their subsidized pricing/contracts is 'helping' us 'save' money it's really only lining their pockets with more green...

I upgraded my Mom and GF to the Moto G from the HTC Droid Incredible on Pageplus. They like it and the difference is night and day. Only negative is the non removable battery and no micro SD card. Phone misbehaves when you fall below 10% free space. Boost version was available from Target for 59$ earlier last week.
As for me, still using the Fascinate till it dies or something better comes my way.
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tekweezle said:
Boost version was available from Target for 59$ earlier last week.
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Whoa! That is a STEAL for that phone, seriously! plus you can unlock the bootloader with the boost version :good:

skepticmisfit said:
Whoa! That is a STEAL for that phone, seriously! plus you can unlock the bootloader with the boost version :good:
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tekweezle said:
I upgraded my Mom and GF to the Moto G from the HTC Droid Incredible on Pageplus. They like it and the difference is night and day. Only negative is the non removable battery and no micro SD card. Phone misbehaves when you fall below 10% free space. Boost version was available from Target for 59$ earlier last week.
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I know that's why i posted this thread originally for those like myself who were not aware, at the time,,, now routinely under $100 and generally $75 or $65.
This makes it a fantastic choice to move from our slowly dying barely supported funky partitioned phone!
Or the extremely cheap like myself !
Like mentioned the 'otg' cable or otg device makes storage a virtual non issue.

are you all buying the 8GB moto g or the 16gb one? i'd get the 16gb if i were you.. and if money's not as much of an issue.

There is nothing bigger than the 8gb boost version that will work with Pageplus. There are other varieties that work with other carriers but not Pageplus.
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tekweezle said:
There is nothing bigger than the 8gb boost version that will work with Pageplus. There are other varieties that work with other carriers but not Pageplus.
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I guess boost must only have an 8gb version. Oh well.

Tomorrow - 32GB Moto X 2014 Only $350 and 64GB Only $375!!!!!

From 11 am CT on May 5 to 11 am CT on May 6
I am tempted to get a second one so I can apply skins to it to match my mood, lol! I have the leather back and I wouldn't want to apply a skin to it b/c it feels so nice but sometimes I want to be more festive and don't want a black phone.
https://plus.google.com/106984013892934805292/posts/7e3iv3oaigD
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/595314101137596419

I think the 64gb one is only available as the pure edition. Good deal for those stuck with a locked bootloader and not on VZW.

The 64GB is only available for the pure edition, you can get it as 16 or 32 as well.

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The 64GB is only available for the pure edition, you can get it as 16 or 32 as well.
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right but the sale is only on the 32GB and the 64GB not on the 16GB.

Red_81 said:
I think the 64gb one is only available as the pure edition. Good deal for those stuck with a locked bootloader and not on VZW.
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yeah, I really wish that the pure edition had both CDMA and GSM radios.

Couldn't resist and got the 64GB... so now I'll have 2 2014's and a 2013.

nbell13 said:
Couldn't resist and got the 64GB... so now I'll have 2 2014's and a 2013.
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Sell 1 on swappa!!!

JulesJam said:
Sell 1 on swappa!!!
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Nah... I'll use the 16 GB to flash custom roms/soak tests/ etc... gonna keep the bootloader locked on the new one

nbell13 said:
gonna keep the bootloader locked on the new one
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Blasphemy!!!!!

JulesJam said:
right but the sale is only on the 32GB and the 64GB not on the 16GB.
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I misread his post last night, my mind thought that he was saying the pure edition was only in the 64 GB option. That's why you don't post hungover lol I'm thinking I'm going to ditch my att one and get the pure edition. No root has been hard to handle and having only 16GB(well 10 or so total)

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Blasphemy!!!!!
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Having to reflash logo.bin to get rid of the bootloader unlocked screen every time I change something is annoying

only within US...

Cost to Buy MX14 And Sell in September When MX15 is Released = $145
Here is how I think about whether or not to buy a MX14 or to wait for the MX15. The cost of buying now when you factor in selling the device in September when the MX15 is released is $145 where I live given my sales tax rate.
To buy a 32GB is $370 with tax and I estimate based on the resale prices of the MX13 back in September of last year, you should net at least $225 for the MX14 in September IF you don't get any wacky customizations - weird color combos, your name on the back, etc. Just get a black/black/dark gray or white/white/silver or white/black/dark grey - those should sell well in the fall.
So if you sell the MX14 in the fall when the MX15 is released, you will be out $145 or less if you can get more for the MX14 than my estimate. That is of course a lot of money to some people but for me to have a nicer phone for 5 months it is worth it.