Hi guys, I have a question for you.
I need to change device and I'm undecided whether to purchase the Note 3 (Snapdragon) or the Nexus 5.
I am inclined to buy the Note 3, but I do not know if it will be supported by the community for a long time,
and especially if the "AOSP developers" will have problems with it.
Getting to the point: do you think that developers will have serious problems and bugs
(as there were in the previous galaxy powered by Exynos)
or the development of AOSP for Note 3 (Snapdragon) will be as smooth as silk, as for the Nexus devices?
development for snapdragon will be simpler compared to exynos version as what i've witness in Galaxy S4 scenario
zekurosu said:
development for snapdragon will be simpler compared to exynos version as what i've witness in Galaxy S4 scenario
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Simpler, but much more difficult than nexus?
UP Someone else?
Pretty sure the Nexus line will always be the easiest.
I think if the lower screen size doesn't bother you, then the nexus 5 is probably the way to go. I was originally thinking about the note 3 or the nexus 5 but decided to go against the latter (I like to watch alot of youtube and the bigger screen size was perfect for a media consumer). But if your looking at it with development in mind, the nexus 5 just has more perks than the note 3
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I think if the screen size doesn't bother you, then the nexus 5 is probably the way to go. I was originally thinking about the note 3 or the nexus 5 but decided to go against the latter (I like to watch alot of youtube and the bigger screen size was perfect for a media consumer). But if your looking at it with development in mind, the nexus 5 just has more perks than the note 3
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I like the screen size and the aosp.. something like a Note 3 Google edition ahah
that's the problem
Can KNOX be a problem for developers AOSP?
Does anyone know if the CyanogenMod is available for this device?
There are problems in the development of the latter?
(We're talking about the variant with Snapdragon)
AOSP and knox won't be a problem as long as you don't care about 0x1 on Knox warranty
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I blame it on timing alone. Why would the developers try to compile a jelly bean ROM when they know that kit kat was going to be released soon.
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Cyanogenmod is in the making, it's not ready for nightlies just yet.
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Ok! So this is the problem!
I hope that if I were to buy a N9005, I will not have problems in turning it into "Google Edition" without
the annoying problems (like the little support to developers) who presented with other Samsung devices.
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Hey guys, some of you know me for my reviews and I decided to get a new phone. The LG nexus 4.
I wanted to show you a side by side comparison of the phones in case you are thinking of changing devices . Both are great but different
The s3 is not stock ..but whos is ? lol
enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
Nice review I think the gs3 is better ie the i9305 but good job
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Yep. My version (tmo) is the weakest of them all .
But my cousin has the international and honestly the n4 still feels a little superior
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I prefer the S III myself too. Pity the Nexus series is crippled all the time.
no multiview, smart stay, direct call ? well thanks , no nexus for me . Im already running a nexus4 like setup as my secondary rom
Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
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Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
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It may happen. Looks like Google make rotation every time release new Nexus.
Sony the last one who has not yet made Nexus phone.
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Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
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Because they want you to use their cloud storage and a fixed battery keeps the unit cost down. It's amazing that they've managed to produce the hardware for the price, but I still chose the S3 as I couldn't live with being tethered to a wall plug for 4 hours a day.
Catching myself on flashing Cyanogen after every samsung rom release - it's just clean and light comparing to the last one , i then thought, if i love pure G more than a blup-blup cartoonish mothefuker even with cool milti window which i used 4-5 times to put iScumbags in depression and smart rotation which is a super must feature. However , i just enjoy a lot more when using aosp , eventhough S3 is a great device
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no multiview, smart stay, direct call ? well thanks , no nexus for me . Im already running a nexus4 like setup as my secondary rom
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Pure Jb? Im looking for a ROM with pure Jb. Thanks.
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what rom is he using on his s3?
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what rom is he using on his s3?
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Looks like he's using Paranoid Android, because of the split screen email.
Close run contest at this point, but next year when the S4 comes out and Sammy can't be bothered updating the S3 to later versions of android anymore, the N4 will suddenly seem far more appealing.
The fact Samsung will not release usable hals and related sources then a fully working Aosp alternative isn't going to be an option either.
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It may happen. Looks like Google make rotation every time release new Nexus.
Sony the last one who has not yet made Nexus phone.
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Yep, well the rumors where that the nexus family was gonna become a line, so there were gonna be different nexus devices by different makers at the same time
I honestly dont think that the nexus will ever have an SD slot..why? dont even ask me cause it doesnt make sense, but most likely because its was originally supposed to be a developer phone? who knows..but they need to start listening to us the users
My thing is..when I hear "nexus" I think of the cream of the cream, top of the line stuff on it..they shouldnt cheap out on parts nor design..and somehow they just keep doing that over and over again
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Close run contest at this point, but next year when the S4 comes out and Sammy can't be bothered updating the S3 to later versions of android anymore, the N4 will suddenly seem far more appealing.
The fact Samsung will not release usable hals and related sources then a fully working Aosp alternative isn't going to be an option either.
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sammy used to be better but sadly you are correct..they will release the s4 and the s3 quickly will be left behind
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Looks like he's using Paranoid Android, because of the split screen email.
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Correct. the rom im running is the Latest Paranoid android. An outstanding rom I may say
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Pure Jb? Im looking for a ROM with pure Jb. Thanks.
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Try paranoid android it feels as pure as possible and very smooth as well
So is the theme in this thread that the SGS3 is the better phone than the nexus 4?
I have been mulling this over and over in my head. I have an update in may and I don't know if I should sell my SGS3 now and get the nexus 4 then decide in may if I want to jump to SGS4 or keep my SGS3 till may and swap then ???
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Stay with the s3 if you are happy with it.
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Stay with the s3 if you are happy with it.
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That's where I was leaning especially with an upgrade around the corner I can always make that decision then. I was just wondering over here if many made the swap from SGS3 and if they regret it or are OK?
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Hi prospective Note 3 owners,
Many Samsung customers and I had bad experience with the Galaxy S3 concern to updates and driver support (exynos one). Since I am a big fan of AOSP, I would be very interested to know how it looks this time or will look like. Moreover, how useful will it be on a device with pen and many android adjustments for it. I really hate touchwiz design, the darkblue and greenish interface. I think, it would be a more coherent feeling, if Samsung would have used holo design.
The question is, if cyanogenmod supports the device, will it get less problems due to the snapdragon 800 and qualcomm driver support? What about the camera and its image stabilizer?
I know it's a speculative question, so please no **** storm
Can't say about official cm / aospa / aokp builds but the fate of exynos is same as of s3/s4 unless.... Sammy follows what it promised to devs...
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Man I really hope development is possible on this thing, moreover the VZW version. I preordered the device so I guess I have 30 days to decide.... C'mon devs, work your magic!!
come on Samsung release workable sources of everything without that people cant work their magic
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With Knox on these phones the freaking bootloader is going to be locked may just wait for
Nexus 5 but want note 3 ..
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With Knox on these phones the freaking bootloader is going to be locked may just wait for
Nexus 5 but want note 3 ..
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The bootloader will get unlocked just like it has every other time...
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The bootloader will get unlocked just like it has every other time...
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The problem is the Knox Warranty status that can't be reset=no warranty in case you will need it
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I think the a time comes in a lifetime when... We the community stop DEPENDING!.........love the device. Root/ unlocking is so..2010 ...if it " comes it comes."
I decided I want this phone that's it.!
But ........................root is nice.
I'm deciding between the LG G2 and the N3 at the moment and I will not buy a phone that cannot properly run AOSP ROMs (like my I9300 S3 which has horrible battery life and flaky camera unless I use a TWiz ROM - and then I get lag, and **** RAM management/multitasking).
I'm presuming that the Snapdragon 800 version of the N3 will get lots of dev support and reliable AOSP ROMs?
This locked bootloader/KNOX business is a bit concerning though, I ain't buying anything with a locked bootloader, full stop.
I really like the look of the G2 and I'm unsure whether N3 is going to be too big for me - but it's hard to ignore that the N3 is a beast, and now there's a phone with 3GB of RAM I don't think I can buy anything less future-proof than that.
Here's hoping a dev can grab the system dump of the note 10.1 Pro and port it over to us since the hardware is exact. Since Samsung is taking their sweet time to give us our update to kitkat and magazine ux....
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There is no note 10.1 Pro.
The firmware for the note pro 12.1 has been available for quite some time now but as far as I know no dev has tried to port it.
It might be fairly easy since the hardware is the same but I think the difficulty has something to do with the bootloader needed by kitkat.
I do believe there will be a 10.1 pro I was reading about on Engadget. Maybe just a tab pro
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I do believe there will be a 10.1 pro I was reading about on Engadget. Maybe just a tab pro
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tab pro is the name of it. And yes, it is probably possible but don't get your hopes up. Things move slowly or don't move at all development on this device. And it would be better to port the note 12.1 since we would retain all note features but gain extras. The note 12.1 has nearly the same exact specs, even the resolution is the same (screen size in this case doesn't matter).
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tab pro is the name of it. And yes, it is probably possible but don't get your hopes up. Things move slowly or don't move at all development on this device. And it would be better to port the note 12.1 since we would retain all note features but gain extras. The note 12.1 has nearly the same exact specs, even the resolution is the same (screen size in this case doesn't matter).
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Scrosler tried and gave up because it was too much hassle,
After only a day from the official presentation from Google, there are already rumors tnat note 2 will get the Android 5.0, or so called Android L.
This is the first link i came across that it has info about that:
http://www.techdroider.com/2014/06/nominated-devices-that-are-getting.html?m=1
Please comment and share thoughts about the update.
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I think we will get cm, aokp based roms but i really doubt about official samsung update. You should trust samsung with this
For me no doubt, that we will get it cause N2 is so popular even after nearly 2 years and Samsung will produce and sell this device surely one more year :good:
I really doubt of an official samsung update.... but let's hope....
Honestly I'd prefere a kernel update on the kitkat release.... and some open sourcing of the exynos ****.... :crying::crying:
Suppose we could hope? Even for KK 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 ota soon?
No we won't get it. It's not the matter of popularity of the device or anything. It's that each manufacturer must provide at least 18 months of support or 3 major updates. We got ourselves 4.1.2, 4.3 and 4.4.2. So yeah, the support for the device is over. Samsung has stop support for S3, so it's our turn now
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No we won't get it. It's not the matter of popularity of the device or anything. It's that each manufacturer must provide at least 18 months of support or 3 major updates. We got ourselves 4.1.2, 4.3 and 4.4.2. So yeah, the support for the device is over. Samsung has stop support for S3, so it's our turn now
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What he said.
Note 3 users will be lucky to see it anytime soon, this is Samsung after all.....
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That sucks koz from the vids ive seen on youtube, 5.0 looks great.
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4.4.4 seems to be arriving on numerous tablets and phones. Great for some.
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we are lucky enough to get kitkat.
I am pessimistic about Samsung coding and releasing another update for such an old phone. Even though its pretty powerful and popular .
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Yeah I'm sure that we'll get it via Omni, CM, aosp roms, but I'll miss the tw.
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i apologize if i'm off topic
i have htc desire HD and with the help and roms of this site i like my phone again
I found Note II in a special price (the 4G edition) and i wanna ask if it is the right decision to purchase it or to go for the samsung S4
I know the differences between this two phones. I just don't want to buy a phone near its end of life
Thank you
Kostas
My S4 i9506 still didnt get KK and you here asking for android L? You should be grateful that samsung remembered it has a device called note 2
Samsung？ forget it...
CM or aosp worth looking forward to
I wonder when CM AOSP or OMNI release come since 4.4 I am using mostly aosp based roms . and they are taking one more step ahead every day. I didnt miss tw
Well landing of 4.4 has been a major achievement post all the rubble created.
5.0 will definitely not be delivered to Note 2.
How else will you be motivated to buy those expensive plastic devices
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Can anyone tell me when can we expect aosp based Android L for our n7100 device. Eagerly waiting.
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Can anyone tell me when can we expect aosp based Android L for our n7100 device. Eagerly waiting.
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Not before it's official release which will be in a few months (hopefully).
Having 4.4.2 kernel sources may allow future 5.x AOSP builds for N710x
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I am quite new to the forums but I am just wondering if CM is coming to this device... seeing as installing CM11 on my mother's Galaxy S3 and it works super duper fast, the Tab 4 Lags with touchwiz...
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I am quite new to the forums but I am just wondering if CM is coming to this device... seeing as installing CM11 on my mother's Galaxy S3 and it works super duper fast, the Tab 4 Lags with touchwiz...
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Probably not. This devices are not so popular and all good devs have a Nexus 7 or 9. So Id bet this tabs wont get cm11 or 12 or anything but a debloated stock rom.
What is your device?
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Probably not. This devices are not so popular and all good devs have a Nexus 7 or 9. So Id bet this tabs wont get cm11 or 12 or anything but a debloated stock rom.
What is your device?
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T230NU, I really need a langauge pack on this device since my mom doesn't quite understand English.. Russian would be good
Thats upsetting considering they had CM working on a little crappy Huawei phone, but wont do it for a samsung tablet...
It depends on the devs. We got so lucky that some devs owned the tab s and made a unoffical build of cm11 and aphla build of cm12. I own a tab s and are lucky to have cm11 on this device.
If a talented Dev applied himself it is possible but mostly the issue is our chip set is hard to work with. The tab s wasn't.
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i bought a SM-T530 today, first tablet but had many android phones (htc desire, s2, s3, htc m8 and so on) and rooted/rom on all of them.
impulse bought this tab 4 tablet expecting good things due to the fact its a samsung tab series and just expected there would be a scene of roms for these samsung tablets! boy was i wrong.
very dissapointed i bought this tablet now considering i cant even find an aosp rom for it at the moment.
first time i have not researched a device. i burnt myself big time. im never a fan of stock roms. :crying:
will keep an eye on these forums for roms. hoping someone does an aosp rom of some kind for it.
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If a talented Dev applied himself it is possible but mostly the issue is our chip set is hard to work with. The tab s wasn't.
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Yes. I do not think the Tab 4 chipsets are exynos. Our tab s are exynos which is probaly why some devs who dont own this tablet still makes kernels and roms.
roamin said:
i bought a SM-T530 today, first tablet but had many android phones (htc desire, s2, s3, htc m8 and so on) and rooted/rom on all of them.
impulse bought this tab 4 tablet expecting good things due to the fact its a samsung tab series and just expected there would be a scene of roms for these samsung tablets! boy was i wrong.
very dissapointed i bought this tablet now considering i cant even find an aosp rom for it at the moment.
first time i have not researched a device. i burnt myself big time. im never a fan of stock roms. :crying:
will keep an eye on these forums for roms. hoping someone does an aosp rom of some kind for it.
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Yeah, my niece got a tab 4 for christmas, and I was helping her out with it, since I'm the "tech" guy. I was pretty disappointed with it, to be honest. It made me really appreciate my nexus.
So far only real gripe I have is lack of brightness sensor... Amazed they left that off.
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Yes. I do not think the Tab 4 chipsets are exynos. Our tab s are exynos which is probaly why some devs who dont own this tablet still makes kernels and roms.
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Exynos are even more a pain than this tablet.
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So far only real gripe I have is lack of brightness sensor... Amazed they left that off.
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Yeah, same here. And the non lighted software keys are kind of annoying when using the tab in the dark like I am right now.
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Yeah, same here. And the non lighted software keys are kind of annoying when using the tab in the dark like I am right now.
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completely agree. not sure why they did that.
Not an exynos in t230. Its marvell pxa1088 Which is a four core similar to the dual core in tab 3 7 inch
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Maybe create a petition on porting cyanogenmod to tab 4?
hi,
the sm-t23x is going to hit the same wall that the tab 3 7.0 hit because of the marvell situation.
although, from the effort with the tab 3 7, there may be new knowledge available marvell wise for working
with the tab 4 7.
I would recommend getting to work on it over waiting for someone else to do it. :good:
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